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| Ashraf Khan |
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 Thursday, June 12, 2008 08:28 PM PST Reply: 
WHAT HAPPENED TO AGOCHS MERGER INTO DHAI
There were strong indications that AGOCHS was going to be merged into DHA but the whole matter went into stalemate due to one advertisement in which Mr Amjad Khan has filed a petition against AGOCHS management for betraying him as being a joint partner.
The rates of files and plots came tumbling down and are now availabe in market in plenty. Evem Mt Atiq Raja was (quoted by a dealer) disposing off his files and plots. One is not veryclear as to what would be the state of AGOCHS merger?
Another property dealer mentioned that the meeting between DHA and AGOCHS has flunked due to same litigation by Mr Amjad Khan although AGOCHS Management (Mr Israr) has filed even a stronger case against Mr Amjad Khan in High Court.
At least I am not clear as to what would be the fate of AGOCH merger into DHA. I am sure there would be wise guys around to clarify the scenario in coreect perspective.
NOW WHAT NEXT.
atiq raja replied on Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:28 PM PST
dont worry,every thing will setel down,in last stages the parties black male each other for getting maximum benifits,any how it is clear from amjad khan advertisment that agochs11 is merging in dha,I am not clear but the official of agochs and property dealers told that agochs11 will not part of phase111,but i will part of dha11 as a K block. |
Abdul Riyadh KSA replied on Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:48 PM PST
Dear Atiq Raja,
will you please write your recmendation for sector G-14 Its time frame for development and is it good investment.
Many thanks for your time. |
Khan-001 replied on Friday, June 13, 2008 12:39 AM PST
What happens to Zaraj as its sandwiched b/t DHA sectors? |
YAMEEN replied on Saturday, June 14, 2008 04:55 AM PST
In 2005 AAGOSH profir to of new ballot file went to 7 lakh then come back to two lakh in few monthe. In 2006 it agains to 5.5 and come back to 2 lakh. Now agin it goes to 7 and I hope so toc aome back to 2 in next few months. The society never tells u any clear picture about AAGOSH2 .They never tell whates the reason behind of this three year delay in merger. I think the society has some serious legal issues in merger if they develop and then merge then it was a better option.Wait when its profit come back to 2 and sell when it goes back to 6. For solid investment invest in multi, cabinet or G-15 in zone 2 which has better prospects tnan zone 5 |
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Thursday, April 10, 2008 07:31 PM PST Reply:
ASHRAF again further to my post 37805
..i am really thank ful of CMY for his reply and input.
..i donot advice CMY to take medicine,but i will try PROZAC to please my CMY.
..i also thank for CMY for using good words for me,this shows his depth in his business.
..the property is at same price for last 2 years ,and it will remain the same,the prices were raised fakely by the property dealers
..there is nothing special in DHA to pay for such high price
..policies are rapidly changing
..old phases of DHA will rise only and not the new one,s
..plots of DHA are more in market than the buyers,it will go on increasing day by day,a time is near when u will see more than 50000 or more plot in market,do all have price of 1 crore or more,practcally not possible to digest,any how CMY may be in dreams
..its the false raise in price by different people to make the life in this country miserable for an ordinary man.
..lot of the message was sent to caution the lay-man
..i have enough plot in DHA with experience enough to discuss
..this is a discussion forum,every one has right to say for the betterment of all.
..CMY has really minded i donot why but my brother 'TRUTH IS ALWAYS BITTER",,for the bitter truth i do oplogise and in vite others to participate in this debate
..with due respect for all
..your ASHRAF KHAN
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Murtaza replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 07:56 PM PST
Dear Ashraf Khan Sahib
Your message is quite interesting and does hold some fact, but there are some issues which I have and need to clear up.
At present it is very difficult to purchase a kanal plot in a decent scheme for less than 50-60 lacs. DHA is much superior than all other socities and that is a fact which is generaly accepted by all.
I know that DHA have alot of plots but I think that many people would rather have DHA in there address than any other society.
I believe that the DHA prices might stabilise for awhile then increase when political issues are resolved. The amount of work that is being carried out in phase 7 is immense, and will enevitably increase prices.
As far as DHA 8 proper and 9/10 files they might suffer if ballot is not held soon and with the looming politcal situations might downturn the prices.
I believe that once DHA 8 is balloted it will be developed as a matter of priority and prices will increase dramatically as it is surronded by all developed socities.
I would like to say what you think about comments that I have just made and everyone is entitled to what they think. |
Sammy replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 08:34 PM PST
Dear Ashraf Khan,
Your comments have some validity (only if you are living in a box). From a pure investor's get rich in 6 months point of view, you make a lot of sense and you should not invest in DHA at all.
You are right about the high number of plots in DHA but let me introduce the concept of 'population growth' to you. DHA as a developer has great vision by planning for the next 15 years. If they didnt plan Phase 9/10 (which might be populated in 10 years), DHA will look like Androon-e-shehr.
Lets review, you dont have a problem with DHA Phase I-V as they are populated so lets put that a side. Phase VI possession of plots have been given and in 2 years, it will have the same number of houses as you see today in Phase V because where else can you find a ready to build land for about 60 lacs, mind you with the DHA name attached to it. In about 2 years, you will be able to start building a house in Phase VII. I think at 40 lacs thats a hell of a buy. Phase VI and VII, with Broadway opened will be as fast a drive away from the airport as any other DHA phase. Files of DHA VIII will be up or down based on speculations but when it is balloted and developed, you cant argue with the location. It probably will be the most expensive piece of land in DHA after being developed so at current files prices, there is plenty of room for profit. Patience is the key in real estate investment and never invest the money that you cant afford to invest. |
Saqib replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 08:41 PM PST
Ashraf Khan
To say the least, your comments and advice is as much a bundle of words as is of CMY .You do not back your prediction in any more scientific way than him.
Show us your past. How far were you on the target in your past predictions.
The information given by CMY is typically on macro level.Which I have found mostly reasonable. I have my self been a beneficiary of that. As for a particular plot or location or deal a definitive research and search should be done by buyers.
Except for investment for speculative purposes, if you have a macro information you cannot be very much wrong.
Unfortunately I smell a fair amount of jealousy in your post. Why don't you come out a competitive web page and promote such a discussion on that. |
Jameel UAE replied on Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:57 AM PST
I did not want to jump in discussion, but I feel most of investors of DHA are overseas Pakistani who have Surplus money and due to inflation their money is burning in fast pace like some 6% per year [even if they keep in Dollar], they invest in plots to safe guard the money. They have no intend to make houses in DHA. As a matter of fact price In DHA may be slowly rising due to this demand [of investment], Regarding housing and construction. In 10 ys Time DHA5 and 6 and some blocks of 7 may be a populated [50 to 60%]. But full phase 7,8 and 9,10 May be populated in 20+ years. But it does not mean even if they are not populated their price will not rise. But in short term price will fall as indicated by CMY as well. |
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Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:02 PM PST Reply:
please be fair for GOD sake,CMY Please
... no nearby balloting of any phase of DHA
... DHA 8 will crash soon as no balloting in 2008
....DHA 9/10 will remain at 20 lakh in next 5 years as it balloting is planned in 2011 or 2012
...big fishes are already out of DHA
..some property dealers are showing false dreams to all,if CMY donot minds he is one of them,as he question and reply in different names to keep sit running
...please think and research yourself,donot trapped in DHA 8 ,9/10
Jameel UAE replied on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:24 PM PST
Dear Ashraf you posted same message 3 times like this even Truth loses it validity, Let the people check the price of DHA check the location and compare with other options. |
dr.sher.afgan replied on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 11:05 PM PST
Mr ashraf khan may be right about his assesment. It may take beating of another 4-5 previous ministers even though constitution does not allow this :;). |
roti kapra aur makaan replied on Wednesday, April 9, 2008 11:15 PM PST
mr ashraf khan, yousaf raza gailani and asif zardari still have houses in dha lahore. so biggest most corrupt fishes still are in dha... |
Reader replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:49 AM PST
ashraf khan seems to be "new kid in the block". He has been jumping all over and posting same message all around. |
Saqib replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 01:06 AM PST
Ashraf Khan
I would like to see sense in what you say, but please show some reason. It looks that you have some long and in depth experience. Why don't you share your past predictions and and results.
Sure every body should do the research but it should not be with a conclusion to curse or condemn others. You don't like CMY's analysis be it so. I think he gives far more information than you have in your post. |
Zulfiqar replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:05 AM PST
Dear Ashraf Khan Sahib,
You are repeating your post many times. Space is limited on this page. Repeated postings result in pushing the valuable info on other pages that normally people don't open. So please do it once or twice and if you fail to get a reply you may repeat it with a gap of 2 days as a reminder.
I hope you won't mind of my request. |
CMY replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:23 AM PST
Mr Ashraf khan you must have forgoton to take PROZAC today. I had to delete half dozon of your same posts that you kept posting all day.
"... DHA 8 will crash soon as no balloting in 2008"
Do you know what word crash means?
People like you say DHA 8 will crash if ballot is held. Same time same people like you also say It will crash if ballot is not held. Why they say it? Their goal is to scare others buyers and then buy same DHA 8 or at lower price.
"DHA 9/10 will remain at 20 lakh in next 5 years as it balloting is planned in 2011 or 2012"
People like you were telling other 5 years ago DHA 6 files will never rise above 14 to 16 lacs levels ( DHA 6 files at that time were selling between 14 to 18 lacs). Look today you cant find a good plot in DHA 6 under 65 lacs even after the worst times in property market in last few years.
"some property dealers are showing false dreams to all,if CMY donot minds he is one of them"
I dont need to show dreams to any one to increase the prices. High prices dont help me. I just do BUYING and SELLING for my cleints. I dont care if property market rise or fall. People wishing to buy at lower prices and people wishing to sell at high prices have equel respect in my heart. I just have to serve both with same level and cant see either one hurt. Price rise or fall is not in my control and dont help my business. Too mush rise or too much fall actualy slow down the property dealers business because buyers and sellers have hard time to make up their minds.
",as he question and reply in different names to keep sit running"
I am having great difficulty to answer important questions directed to me. Why would I play games and waste my valuable time. People like you who have plenty of spare time do these type of tricks. You have posted same message over half dozen time with different and same names. Please don't waste web page value able space and important time of visitors. Please make you point once. We are not idiots that need to read same massage 8 times on same page. When childish posts are deleted then people like you start crying that we are blocking their messages. No post is deleted if it with a reasonable points.
"...please think and research yourself,donot trapped in DHA 8 ,9/10"
I advise you same thing every day but you still dont want to do it. Do some research and then we will have some debate on this issue. You dont seem to be familiar with DHA. |
JAMIL replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 07:08 PM PST
Lets see who is true,
condition of the politics are deteriorating.
this will effect the property as well,as most of the politician have investment in it,ashraf khan is true to some extant. |
ASHRAF KHAN replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 07:27 PM PST
..i am really thank ful of CMY for his reply and input.
..i donot advice CMY to take medicine,but i will try PROZAC to please my CMY.
..i also thank for CMY for using good words for me,this shows his depth in his business.
..the property is at same price for last 2 years ,and it will remain the same,the prices were raised fakely by the property dealers
..there is nothing special in DHA to pay for such high price
..policies are rapidly changing
..old phases of DHA will rise only and not the new one,s
..plots of DHA are more in market than the buyers,it will go on increasing day by day,a time is near when u will see more than 50000 or more plot in market,do all have price of 1 crore or more,practcally not possible to digest,any how CMY may be in dreams
..its the false raise in price by different people to make the life in this country miserable for an ordinary man.
..lot of the message was sent to caution the lay-man
..i have enough plot in DHA with experience enough to discuss
..this is a discussion forum,every one has right to say for the betterment of all.
..CMY has really minded i donot why but my brother 'TRUTH IS ALWAYS BITTER",,for the bitter truth i do oplogise and in vite others to participate in this debate
..with due respect for all
..your ASHRAF KHAN
.. |
Murtaza replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 08:18 PM PST
Murtaza replied on Thursday, April 10, 2008 08:56 PM PST
Dear Ashraf Khan Sahib
Your message is quite interesting and does hold some fact, but there are some issues which I have and need to clear up.
At present it is very difficult to purchase a kanal plot in a decent scheme for less than 50-60 lacs. DHA is much superior than all other socities and that is a fact which is generaly accepted by all.
I know that DHA have alot of plots but I think that many people would rather have DHA in there address than any other society.
I believe that the DHA prices might stabilise for awhile then increase when political issues are resolved. The amount of work that is being carried out in phase 7 is immense, and will enevitably increase prices.
As far as DHA 8 proper and 9/10 files they might suffer if ballot is not held soon and with the looming politcal situations might downturn the prices.
I believe that once DHA 8 is balloted it will be developed as a matter of priority and prices will increase dramatically as it is surronded by all developed socities.
I would like to say what you think about comments that I have just made and everyone is entitled to what they think. |
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Monday, April 7, 2008 07:37 PM PST Reply:
D-16 for sale(CDA SECTOR)
Aslam-o-Alaikum,
I am well and wish the same for you. I attached two pages, one is allottment of plot and second is information for transfer of plot.
The mode of payment is mentioned below again as desired you:-
a) Rs.4,00,000/-+ Rs.50,000/-(Rs. four lac)+(Rs.fifty thousand)-(down-payment+ demand), pay to Zahid
b) Rs.14,500/- (Rupees fourteen thousand & five hundred) - (transferred / membership fee), pay to Company {Engineer Housing Scheme}
c) Rs.4,50,000/- (Rupees four lac fifty thousand only) - (Ist installment)
Rs.4,50,000/- is the 2nd and last installment. Ist & 2nd installments will be paid at the time of allotment plot number, which will be allotted few months.
(I AM SEARCHING ON THE NET FOR THE AREAS NEAR AIRPORT,AS NEWSPAPER SAYS THIS AREA IS THE FUTURE,)? D-16 is the nearest to new International Fruit and Vegetable Mandi, which is acquired / fixed place by CDA, Islamabad for this purpose. The distance of new Airport is 5 km and 2 km is the Motorway of Lahore, Multan and Peshawar from D-16.
I think, every thing should be cleared at the initial time, because no any doubt should be created between you and me. Sale and purchase is the matter of fate, but every person should be fair in dealing.
Allah Hafiz,
ATIQ RAJA. replied on Monday, April 7, 2008 11:34 PM PST
D/12 is not a cda sector,it is in zone11,for private housing schemes. |
Shafqaat replied on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 09:11 AM PST
Mr. Atiq Raja: Pls. correct that he mentioned D/16 not D/12.
D/16 is in Zone II while D/12 is a CDA sector. Thanks
Shafqaat |
Zulfiqar replied on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 10:41 AM PST
Come on Mr. Atiq, D-12 is a proper CDA sector, 100%.
It is E-11 that is private. E-8 is with Navy, E-9 with PAF, E-10 with Army and E-12 as any other sector of CDA like F-8. These are all CDA proper sectors except E-11. |
atiq raja replied on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 10:44 PM PST
please dnt play with the mind of people,simply,zone1 is for cda,zone11 and 5 for not develop by cda.e/11 is excluded from cda master plan in 1959,the societies stablished in e/11 on the cda land called killas alloted to effacties of f/11,d/12 and e/12,on the back of societies,cda is going to establish cda sector in e/11,any how it is a long story,simply invest in cda constructed sectors,e/11,it is not cda sector,but it is in the centre of cda sectors and developing very fast ,any how it is liveable places,dha it is authority need no noc from any beter than cda lastly bt.I agree with zuliqar. |
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Thursday, March 20, 2008 08:37 PM PST Reply:
State of Fazaia Lahore Development
Dear Lahories
Can anyone tell as to what is the latest state of Fazaia Lahore? Is it worth a place to invest in? What would be cost of a canal or 10 marla plot? Is any plot available for sale and what cost? If worth investing, I want to buy a plot if within a range of 10 lacs.
Aamir replied on Thursday, March 20, 2008 09:20 PM PST
(a) latest state of Fazaia Lahore?
The current pace of development would make this project a developed housing scheme by the end of next year, however to take shape of liveable place would take quite a few years.
(b) Is it worth a place to invest in
From investment point of view: NO (Since other better options are avilable)
(c) What would be cost of a canal or 10 marla plot?
Kanal = 17 to 19 Lacs, 10 Marla = 10-11 lacs
(d) Is any plot available for sale and what cost?
Yes
(e) If worth investing?
With the information given above, assess yourself
BTW you haven't asked its location and distance, the basics. |
Ashraf Khan replied on Friday, March 21, 2008 12:21 PM PST
Aamir Sahib, Thanks a lot for your detailed info. I know the location as there have been a few posts on net showing the maps. As you have mentioned that there are other options, can you kindly help me as to which are those. I may add that I would prefer only credible schemes such as AWT, Fazaia or DHA. But DHA is certainly far away from my investmentrange. I can call you if you kindly let me know your contact numbers. |
Aamir replied on Friday, March 21, 2008 05:16 PM PST
According to your budget/preference, you may look for 10 Marla plot in AWT Lahore. Here, the development work is about to be completed. It is a safe investment, also, the resale of a plot is much easier as compared to Fazia and other surrounding Schemes. However, it let it be a long term investment say for about 3-4 years.
Being in Islamabad, I suppose you have lots of options in Rawalpindi on GT road like River Garden Scheme etc. There are number of property dealers in F-10 Markaz who could be of help in this regard. You can reach me at aamirgillani567@yahoo.com. |
Usman replied on Friday, March 21, 2008 06:16 PM PST
Ashraf Khan Sahib, between AWT-2 and Fazaia, AWT-2 might be ahead in development but Location and future prospects wise FAZAIA is much better than AWT. Contrary to common believe AWT is not located on Raiwind Road but atleast one KM away from Raiwind Road.
Despite having completed most of development in most of AWT and posession is availabe, there has not been a single house built. The biggest drawback to AWT is is its approch, which is away from any major road. FAZAIA might be little behind in their development but FAZAIA will be populated a lot faster than AWT. Also, the development standard of AWT is not that great as compare to FAZAIA. |
Aamir replied on Friday, March 21, 2008 07:45 PM PST
@Usman : Here we are talking about from investment point of view in a limited budget. The future of Fazaia is good as well and so is the case with every housing scheme. AT this point in time, Your investment can be two fold in AWT after 3-4 years. Whereas,in FAZAIA the same could be achieved in 5+ years. Your statement, FAZAIA is behind in its development work but would populate faster than AWT,is beyound me for being a circular reasoning.
Anyway, thanks for alternate views. |
Usman replied on Friday, March 21, 2008 08:32 PM PST
>>The future of Fazaia is good as well and so is the case with every housing scheme>>
I don't agree with your 2nd half of sentence. Not all housing societies has good future as many societies turns out to be fraud and people loose their hard earned money. I don't mean to say AWT is fraud but all I am saying is that FAZAIA has better future than AWT.
>>AT this point in time, Your investment can be two fold in AWT after 3-4 years. Whereas,in FAZAIA the same could be achieved in 5+ years.>>
Development in most of AWT-2 has been completed for last several years but not a single house has been built yet. When development would be completed at FAZAIA by end of next year, why would anyone build their house in AWT when a person can build their house in better developed society and has better approach((FAZAIA) than AWT?
The only reason any sensible person would go for AWT, if price in FAZAIA goes too high and it does not make sense to pay that much of price difference that justify good approach and good development. That's where return of your investment comes in which in case of FAZAIA is much higher than AWT. In next 3-5 years, fazaia has a lot higher probably of return than AWT.
>>Your statement, FAZAIA is behind in its development work but would populate faster than AWT,is beyound me for being a circular reasoning.>>
Stop circling. It is just a common sense that my assessment is based on completion of development in FAZAIA which is not too far in the future, end of next year. After all we are discussing here with investment point of view and NOT to build house in near future. All I am saying is that after completion of development FAZAIA has grater poetical than AWT for the reasons given above.
Please note above discussion is only between AWT and Fazaia. There might other options that are even better than FAZAIA. |
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Thursday, March 8, 2007 08:18 AM PST Reply:
Re allotment of full paid plots in bahria town sector c
According to newspapers advertisement today by BT in first phase re allotment of full paid plots from undeveloped sector c blocks will be made only in gulbahar and jasmine fully developed ready for possession blocks.
Khan replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 08:46 AM PST
Does This means that peoples who have plots in (Lavandus, Lilic, Azalea, Rose, Amber, Aziz, Gulsheen, Violet, Jennifer) will be adjusted in Gulbahar and Jasmine which are developed blocks ? Can anyone please clarify ?
Thanks |
Khan replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 10:31 AM PST
Thanks Mr Ali for the quick reply and appreciate the clarification. will that be possible for you or someone else to scan and post the AD here so everyone can view that ?
appreciate all the help |
Ashraf Khan replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 10:35 AM PST
As per this advertisement in first phase of these re allotments plots will be given only in gulbahar and jasmine blocks. I dont have scanner to scan the newspaper. |
Ali replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 10:47 AM PST
CMY can you please scan and upload this ad to clarify which blocks to be alloted. |
ua replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 12:43 PM PST
And also as per the advertisement, today is the last day for the allottees to clear their dues and apply for allotment in Gulmehar and Jasmine block.... |
Raheem replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 01:55 PM PST
It seems to me that Bahria Town management is in deep financial crises but instead of trying to gain customer confidence by telling them the truth, they always try to fool the people by false claims and advertisements. Suppose all the people rush to the banks to pay outstanding dues, how Bahria Town is going to allot them plots in these two most wanted blocks where total number of plots should not be more than 1500? |
Sohail replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 02:10 PM PST
Actually the newspaper only say plots in gulbahar and jasmin blocks in first phase of reallotment. |
Khan replied on Thursday, March 8, 2007 04:09 PM PST
Raheem said correct.
Bahria Town management should fear Allah and make true promises. Their aim is just to make promises and make money. Regards |
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Tuesday, January 11, 2005 09:46 PM PST Reply:
Can someone let me know, How much are the Home Plus Membership forms from Bahria Town are selling for in the market. |
