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Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:23 PM PST 
DHA Bahawalpur 1K Files

Team LRE

Please update Bahawalpur prices its still showing 28.5 while today market rate is 29.5 to 29.75

CMY gonna rock once again your predictions right on dot.

Multan stable at 40.5 and no short term charm in it but surely big winner for 12-18 months holding

The best short term asset is DHA Bahawalpur 1K.

My dear brethren don't loose the chance and lock price by down payment as during eid overseas brother / sister will flock in and take rate near to Multan if not equal.

http://www.dhabahawalpur.com/

DHA Lahore doing transfers of Bahawalpur since 6th June and very soon transfers will open in Karachi and Islamabad so in current Karachi situation many big fish investor will enter files as very less transfer fee and tax compared to plot.

Appreciate your logical disagreement and guidance as diverse opinions bring beauty to this wonderful site

stn replied on Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:20 PM PST 

Dha Multan location is far better than Dha Bahawapur.
Even Multan is very cheap in this price.Its location is
superior and societies around it are 6-8 lac per Marla.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:01 AM PST 

DHA Multan launching is just after Eid. Total 2500 plots (10 marla & 1 kanal) will be offered. Minimum own price will be 10 lac for one kanal file. There 500 affidavit cash files left in market. Those who ve cash better buy cash file and don't wait for installment as chances are very less for one to get. In Bahawalpur more than 400000 applications were received for 6000 files.

Dha multan replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:32 AM PST 

Dear Ahmad Hassan. Thanks for sharing information on dha multan. Is it confirm that dha multan will launch only 2500 plots(1 Kanal and 10 marla). Can you please share your source of information. Thanks.

Tayyeb replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:34 AM PST 

For DHA Multan what would be expected price for the cash file / plot once map is issued and allotment done expectedly xat the most in the next 12 months?

ShahzadQamar® replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 05:17 AM PST 

DHA Bwp is great investment but not now...in future InshaAllah. It will take lot of time for DHA Bwp to give handsome returns. At present outside lahore only DHA multan is investment volatility game and attractive for money makers due to many on ground realities comparing to BWP where 2 Kanal is launched at justtt 90.

Mian® replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 07:48 AM PST 

@ Shahzad sb.
Now its time for bahawalpur as CMY explained its development & features.
As after now onwards buyers have 2 great opprtunities to grab i.e Multan & now Bahawalpur as well.
The main feature of Bhawalpur is that it is fully backed by Milatary project with a very compatitive price as well as tranferrable in Lahore. So now onwards buyers have two choices to think after Lahore.
Bahawalpur has more room to grow in terms of Multan as developments already starts there.

User_16260® replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 05:33 PM PST 

It looks DHA Bahawalpur development speed will make it more shire in market soon but any idea how much time DHA bahawalpur will take to cross dha multan current price (42 lac) ???

M Zahid® replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 06:09 PM PST 

Multan and Bahawalpur; both are army project but difference is Multan is advance in progression because it has requisite land and is about to launch. Files will turn into plot numbers and development will see shape by middle of next year.
Bahawalpur does not have required land and due to remoteness investors were not willing to travel for transfer to Bahawalpur. Now this issue is resolved but land acquisition will take time and file price will keep oscillating up and down.
In the end both are good projects and will gain. Multan will mature early than Bahawalpur. But being cheaper than Multan later is attractive for investor till it becomes close to Multan
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Monday, June 20, 2016 07:54 PM PST 
DHA Multan Land Acquisition Status.

DHA Multan phase 1 was notified as 9 villages for controlled area of defence housing authority.
Partial villages were as following
Gith brabar, Basi ratta, Punjkoh, Madina, Basti Nohand and kotla Sadaat.
Complete villages under controlled area were as following.
Garey wahn, Raipur and Sangi.
DHA Multan phase 1 supposed to be on 2500 acres of land but there was some resistance from certain landlords to handover their land for development while some others were eager to be part of this great development. DHA decided to expand the limits and included Tahirpur later on in current phase of development.
Land acquisition is the most tedious and full of litigation task which dha Multan has almost successfully completed. They acquired 4500 acres of land for phase 1 although their some very small pockets are yet there to cleared (May be 50 acres). This is a remarkable feat by the current administration to acquire land on such a speed :) :) .

Now land bank size is bigger than dha’s own utility. So dha decided to sell these in the market directly. My estimate (please note estimate) is that there will be direct selling of dha equivalent of 2000 kanals. This will translate into 2 kanal, 1 kanal, 10 marla and 5 marla files. DHA is likely to sell it on instalment as well as on cash files.
What will be its impact on the market when dha phase one development is gone 100% bigger than previous plan? So this means abundance of supply in an untested market. This over supply will not let it rise like prism but steady gains will carry on with the speed of development, once short term investors departure is absorbed by the market.
What do you think that new moves of bigger plots and smaller plots will have impact on the market and bigger size of overall development will impact the market in long term?

stn replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 09:36 PM PST 

Wat is the expected date of launch of these plots?

Z.DOGAR® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 09:36 PM PST 

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Abdal® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 09:57 PM PST 

You have raised interesting and pertinent question and food for thought. To this effect, I have a query for my understanding. For every 8 kanals of land, 2 Kanal goes to landowner as affidavit file holders, 2 kanal remains with DHA and 4 kanal land is lost in road, infrastructure, parks etc. The affidavit conversion to allocation file number as of June 10, 2016 stands at 4810, let us make it 5,000 by June end. If the general hearsay is that DHA will be launching public offering after Eid, I do not presume there will be more than 1,000 affidavit files in the market which have not been converted to intimation / allocation. Once the public offering is announced, I presume the holder of affidavit will have only three options either to sell it or get his affidavit converted to allocation by paying membership or opt not to be included in Phase-1. Under the aforesaid, the assumption that not more than 1,000 affidavit files are outstanding at this stage seems plausible? If we work back from the 6,000 files, it means the same number of 6,000 files / kanal of land will be with DHA, this will translate into 3,000 acres of land and not 4,500 for Phase-1. The question is where would the price adjust considering the demand-supply for 12,000 of kanals comprising 14,000 - 15,000 plots with majority of 1 kanal and remaining 2 kanal, 1 marla and 5 marla in short and long terms. Is phase-1 too big for the market? What will be the action of affidavit holders at the announcement of public ballot? Does the allocation holders have the financial strength to hold the file or they are there for short term gains?

umer replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 10:01 PM PST 

So Mr. Zahid if somebody wants to invest in DHA Multan he should wait or can go for it now.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 10:56 PM PST 

This is the best time to invest. Price won't comedown now.

Samurai® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 11:35 PM PST 

I think more land would result in better planning and would be beneficial for the project. Slow and steady growth is very positive thing for investment (i understand that everyone want to double his investment overnight). Moreover, I do not think that 100% of extra land could be sold. A part of it would be needed for roads, parks etc. I am concerned if DHA is launched after eid or further delayed.

Ejaz_EJ® replied on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 01:54 AM PST 

Dears
my reliable sources saying that DHA Multan is opening an account with banks in Multan to collect the funds from general public against plots offering, so launching is expected just after Eid.

Prices wont come down now, as launching is expected at 62.5 Lacks and cash file must cross 50 lacks.

Thanks

MBS® replied on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:07 AM PST 

Good work Zahid. Like your diligent and fact based analysis.
Very helpful..

Thanks :)

MBS® replied on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:12 AM PST 

I think the google marking is approximate, in my view actual site will be skewed up to Mati tal road, where the Eastern Gate is under construction and a patch of Main Boulevard is under development as well.
So it looks quite obvious that DHA Multan will stretch across from Bosan Road to Matital Road.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:14 AM PST 

I ve doubt it will cross 50 but it will remain 45+. Then it will go gradually up.

ShahzadQamar® replied on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:50 AM PST 

i predicted few months back that DHA multan is going to cross 40 in couple of months. many were against me saying DHA multan shall be slow gainer but eventually it did cross 40. few weeks back i predicted that the file should be 47 to 50 at public offering launch and i believe this shall also come true in couple of months or so. let see

ShahzadQamar® replied on Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:57 AM PST 

before i said file will cross 40 when it was 32 and it did. now i believe it will be 47 to 50 in couple of months
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Monday, June 20, 2016 12:53 AM PST 
DHA multan

DHA multan has been updated on google maps and now the main boulevard can be seen. The area shown on google maps is significantly less compared to the 9,000 acres. Is it mistake by google maps or it represents the phase I?

CMY replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 12:57 AM PST 

You are looking at only expected DHA Multan phase 1 location map. Entire DHA Multan 9000 acres wont be developed in one go. It will be developed in future years just like DHA Lahore phase 1 to 9

Choudry Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
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Jameel Mughal® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 01:08 AM PST 

Making the Gate and Small patch of Road plus carpeting it just an indication how sincere is DHA Mulatn to maintain file price high, and safe guarding the investors's Interest. other wise none of reputed society did so, Normal Course of action is map is given survey is done which almost Complete in 6 months to one year, Roads are Compacted and then Filling plus leveling is done, water and sewage network is laid and Finally Kacha roads roads are in last stage Carpeted roads are made.

CMY replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 01:15 AM PST 

Jameel bhai khul kar kah dien DHA Multan admin is more eager than holder to see DHA Multan prices higher :) Bachoo ko seedi baat samajh aa jiay gi.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 01:24 AM PST 

No CMY, I mean admin have positive body language as much as in their Hand as you know not all things are in hand of developer.

M Zahid® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 03:51 AM PST 

Jameel Bhai
Be assured that 98.5% is in hand and only 1.5% is left. Waite for few weeks and sustained higher price will clear the last hurdle then development is piece of cake
Hope this helps

ShahzadQamar® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 04:24 AM PST 

CMY i second your second opinion and the main reason would be to reach the desired launch price.

stn replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 06:33 AM PST 

I am not sure that management is eager to increase rates or not.But one thing is I know that in this area,even new societies are launching not less than 80 lacs.

Habib replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 01:16 PM PST 

what is development standard of Buch Villas next to DHA Multan , one of my fried told me that 5 merla is just 25 Lac, if that is the case then Kanal should be about 70 to 80. From Google Planning looks super

Abdal® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 01:55 PM PST 

Any comments on the matter whether the market can absorb such significant supply while maintaining or increasing price. The comparison with awards Town and Bucha Villas in terms of price comparison will make better sense if demand and supply of plots is also considered. Any assessment?

Arif M® replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 02:24 PM PST 

DHA Multan location is SUPERB without any doubt. This is the new multan where all the new societies are being developed. DHA Multan is hardly 0.5 km ahead of BZU university and also facing ISP university. So Largest public sector and Largest private sector universities of whole southern punjab are on foot steps of DHA Multan location.

If the google map marking is correct then I dont see any villages in there unlike DHA Lahore where civilians always face greater chances of getting village facing, factory facing of naala facing plots.

I hope its prices come down a little below 40 so I can get into Multan train.

stn replied on Monday, June 20, 2016 03:55 PM PST 

Habib sb,Buch villa one kanal is nearly 120 lac
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Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:19 PM PST 

DEAR CMY SB. kindly discuss whats happening inside state-life phase-2? is it okay to buy 10 marla plot file for investment in this society right now? or shoild i wait till situation becomes clear ??? kindly guide me.

stn replied on Wednesday, June 1, 2016 02:14 AM PST 

To invest in state life 2 or plots in G & J blocks can give very healthy gain but wait slightly.Let the things settle down and let the map approved by Lda.

zahid replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:00 AM PST 

thanks stn.
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Friday, March 4, 2016 08:42 AM PST 

FAQ in each LRE WhatsApp group.

State Life phase 2 one kanal to 10 marla conversion is done on a illegal non LDA approved map of new block drawn on phase 2 land but just naming it to state life one to trick new buyers who will be sold the newly allocated plots in hurry before NAB LDA and Govt steps in. Those who got plots allotted to people with connections will be long gone out Pakistan.

All non deap good land of State Life 2 plot holders is now already used in this one kanal to 10 marla conversion that was already heavily rejected on AGM day. You are fooled into believing you will be getting a developed plot in 18 months in phase 1 of State life. Management is already privately saying minimum 3 years for any hand over. But even a blind person can easily see a day light robbery is committed and land is actually located in State Life 2. Was purchased with money of State life 2. DHA done same trick in Z block Ivy Green DHA8 but its no where near DHA8.

Management have also publicly admitted they are already short on State Life phase 2 land and its map is not LDA approved and cant develop any thing on that map. So now with this not enough land thy are planing to give each kanal holder a 10 marla and 10 marla holders a five marla and five marla holders a 3 marla by force. You will also be forced to pay hefty developments charges for deep land as on leveled land they have imposed 8 lacs as developments charges for 10 marla. What will stop them to impose 13 lacs like DHA 9 Prism. With average price of 1 kanal in State life 2 at 28 lacs and added 8 to 13 lacs developments charges is getting a plot in deep ditches worth at this price in a scheme that is under NAB investigation already for billions fraud in land purchases as reported in newspapers already and that was unable to buy even needed land in 12 years or draw a map in a decade? Why not buy Prism J K L 10 marla with same amount ?



Think about it.

I see 1000s of holders of State life 2 going to courts to protect their land and money so this thing is going to be getting messy for long time to come. with this day and time and dozens of TV channels and social media this type trick cant be hidden for too long.





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stn replied on Friday, March 4, 2016 11:47 AM PST 

Sir can u post that converted plots map?

Nasir Khan replied on Friday, March 4, 2016 05:08 PM PST 

642 members of SL2, (owners of 1 Kanal files) gave consent and got allotted 10 marla in Phase 1, un kay liay kia hukam hay aap ka?

CMY replied on Friday, March 4, 2016 10:55 PM PST 

They should sell their plots before single person from any remaining one kanal plot holders go to court to get stay order on this conversion by paying only Rs 5000.

Waseem® replied on Friday, March 4, 2016 11:46 PM PST 

Note: I think only those were included in ballot who gave application for 1 kanal to 10 marla conversion. Not everyone. What happens in future is unsure.

However, its funny that both phase-2 or new 10 marla cutting had to be developed, so why go for conversion. As CMY said State Life is short on phase-2 land and there is going to be huge mess in future.

stn replied on Saturday, March 5, 2016 12:26 AM PST 

@CMY,
What is current rate of conversion plots?
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Wednesday, February 24, 2016 04:26 AM PST 
DHA Multan balloting

Dear CMY and experts:
I have heard that DHA Multan Phase 1 balloting is expected in March 2016. Can anyone confirm or otherwise that the rumour is correct or not? Thanks

Surfer replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:31 PM PST 

Rumour till now only Dha peshwar is balloting

Ejaz_EJ® replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 01:34 PM PST 

Dear Junaid,
DHA Multan balloting is delayed for 1 month and now it is expected in April 2016, this all happened due to Peshawar Balloting.

Thanks

M Zahid replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 01:40 PM PST 

@EJ,

Balloting of DHA Multan is in late 2016. Yet official launch of the project is suppose to happen which is delayed for one month and may be more after passing this one month. Please understand the difference of launch and balloting, these two terms are two different phenomenons.

Ejaz_EJ® replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 02:09 PM PST 

Dear Zahid,
I am sorry, I meant Launching not the balloting.

Thanks

stn replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 02:16 PM PST 

Official launce of dha Multan ll b within a month.Ballot like dha Peshawar and Dha Multan ll b till June.The ballot with map having plot numbers ll b in the last quarter of this year.

DHA Multan replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 02:41 PM PST 

DHA Multan Project will be launch in March 2016 and balloting is expected in June 2016.

AI replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 03:35 PM PST 

@ zahid, dha multan official facebook page shows balloting in March 2016. What do you say. Is it possible or may be further delayed for one or two months. Dear Zahid Your valuable feedback plz.

AI replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 05:03 PM PST 

Launch in March 2016

Shahzad replied on Thursday, February 25, 2016 06:53 AM PST 

I think balloting in march is not possible but it is quite possible to be done in June-2016 for sure.
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