How to check plot coordinates.
I am based outside Pakistan and I am planning to buy a plot in DHA Phase 6 J Block. How can I know whether plot is west open or the direction of the plot. Maps on DHA website do not give plot direction/orientatioon.

DHA Phase 8 Development charge of One Kanal
CMY Bhai,

DHA phase 8 one Kanal Development charges 10 lac
will be paid in 12 Quarterly Installment ( Means every 03 month I have to pay Rs 83,333.33.

sir, Do you have any idea when the first payment is Due ?

Thank You

Nazir Butt Kuwait.

DHA Lahore Phase 8
AOA,

Many friends who cant find their plots with NIC nubmber were able to get their numbers with manual checks from DHA. If you want to make sure you are unsecussful you can call us to get it checked from the DHA office posted lists.


Ch Mujahid Yasin
03224009967

DHA Lahore Phase 8

I have good news for my friends DHA is now preparing boards to posts lists on them. We will inshaAllah have results some time today.


Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
03224009967

CMY sb,

Where can we find phase 8 ballot results

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Ballot Results
DHA phase 8 ballot results will be on line on April 8 on www.DHALahore.Org . Their website is down due to heavy traffic. Ballot results lists will be displayed in DHA office from April 8, 2010.


If any one want to know result he should SMS their NIC number and name on application or on their allocation file to 03224009967. I will check the plot number and SMS or email result back to you asap.

I dont know If am able to get ballot results and post them on line on here but I will check these list for you in DHA Lahore office and let you know your plot no.

Ch Mujahid Yasin

03224009967

Phase 8 Development Charges for Allocation File Holder
Dears

Does any body knows how much are development charges for phase8 file holders, did DHA already announced it.

Thanks
Imran Alam

We have paid 6 instalments that is half of the total amount for DHA valley plots till todate.But I want to know what progress or development DHA Islamabad has done so far. DHAI is not updating us about development progress. Atleast they can update us about the development on the DHA website.
I have invested in DHAI keeping in mind long term investment for more than 5 years. I hope the future of DHAI is good as there are many mega projects of DHAI.
Paragone and LDA avenue 1 is again in deep sleep. I don't know what is going on with realestate developers in Pakistan.They are cheating people by not developing housing schemes even after years of delay.
I think in Lahore housing schemes near lahore airport are very good particulary DHA phase6, phase 7.
I was thinking to apply for DHA phase 8 but given the price of 55 lakh I decided not to apply as it is very expensive.
Any update about all this.
Thanks
Hussain

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Balloting
DHA Lahore Phase 8 Balloting.

Installments must be paid before a transfer.

Dha Lahore phase 6 plot for sale
DHA Lahore phase 6, 28 marla corner plot for sale ready for construction. its very good deal at this price.

DHA Islamabad
Reference to property discussion no’s 45823, 45824, 45832, 45837 & 45845 posted by Mr. Saleem Awan and no. 45778 posted by DHA Ordinance

A very happy new year to all the readers. May God bring peace and bless his bounty worldwide in this and coming years.

I am Project Manager of DHA Valley but I am writing as a visitor to this website and as someone who has an interest in real estate development and future projects. My observations are based purely on available statistical data and existing facts.

As for as my information no one name Mr. Saleem Awan is working in DHA Islamabad. If he is an employee, he should come often with more info about himself.

I would like to highlight some project-wise facts about DHAI projects in succeeding lines.

DHA Phase-II
Fully develop phase. Sectors comprising from A to J. Situated on main GT Road and Islamabad Highway. Ready for possession.

DHA Phase-II (Extn)
Initially sectors were comprised from A to Q but replanning of phase segregate it into 4 main sectors (from A to D). Situated on Islamabad Highway and in-front of DHA Valley made the location really prominent. Development work is under process. The earlier the sector (out of 4) the sooner the possession is expected. Conversion of files to allotment letters are also in process. DHA Expressway (8.2 km, 6 lanes) are near to completion, with some work remaining on bridges/crossways. It will connect Islamabad Highway to DHA Valley through Phase-II (Extn).

DHA Phase-I (Extn)
Interchange is under constructed and construction work is in progress. DHA is planning the remapping of sectors to pace-up the work. Due to current market crunch exact date of possession cannot given but it is under high priority of DHA.

DHA Valley:
Comprising into 20 sectors, DHA Valley is a bunch of quiet a few projects. Master plan is designed by M/S OJMR Architect, while Habib Rafique and Bahria Town are partners is development. Other renowned companies like EMAAR, AREAA, MIDJAC & HARO are also associating DHA in its’ projects. Development work is in progress and possession is expected to given from 2012 starting from 5 & 8 marla DHA Homes. Its’ an environment friendly place and will be pioneer in community development in terms of size and facilities when completed.

Country’s current real estate situation, economic recession and law and order condition is well known to everyone. Real Estate prices are adjusted nationwide. In recent times, there’s a requirement of sound management team to meet current challenges. DHA has this credibility to deliver. William Channing once said, “Difficulties are meant to rouse, not discourage. The human spirit is to grow strong by conflict”.

I recommend members/visitors to use this site only to facilitate others. I do hope the administration of web site/CMY will look after the above referred mails like property discussion no’s 45823, 45824, 45832, 45837 & 45845. Attitudes are more important than facts.

Suggestions/comments are welcome. Thanks and Best Regards

Imran
mit1aries@hotmal.com

DHA Homes! Is there any place where I could find the Larger Map?
Dear Friends,

DHAI DHA Homes map, posted at DHA website is hard to read and is very small in size.

Is there any place where a bigger map is available with details?

I have a villa and want to know about my exact location inside the DHA homes community but DHA posted map is horrible and just kills me when it comes to reading it!

Lahore Real Estat Market Pulse as of 12.00 Pm Aug 27, 2009
DHA Lahore Plots File Prices Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse

DHA Lahore Phase 5 M Block Allocation File buyers at 29.25 and sellers 29.50 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension Allocation File: Buyer(s) at 22.35 Sellers(s) at 22.50 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation File 1 kanal Sellers at 30.00 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Affidavit 10 Marla File Sellers at 22.00 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 Allocation File Sellers at 19.85 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 33.85 Lacs Seller(s) at 34.00 Lacs.

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation file Buyer(s) at 25.25 Lacs Seller(s) at 25.50 Lacs

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 17.40 Lacs Seller(s)at 17.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 14.10 Lacs Seller(s) at 14.20 Lacs


DHA Valley Islamabad open files 5 marla 3 paid sells at loss of = 40000 to 45000

DHA Valley Islamabad open files 8 marla 3 paid sells at loss of = 35000 to 40000

DHA Valley Islamabad Non open files 5 marla 3 paid sells at loss of = 45000 to 54000

DHA Valley Islamabad non open files 8 marla 3 paid sells at loss of = 46000 to 50000

DHA Islamabad Phase 2 extension lowest price certificate file is available at 10.10 Lacs


Bahria Town Lahore Sector C 10 marla 2 paid buyers at 1.99 sellers at 2.01 lacs

Bahria Town Lahore Sector C 10 marla 3 paid buyers at 2.71 sellers at 2.74 lacs

Phase 9 Bahria Town Rawalpindi Pakistan 10 marla 2 paid buyers at 1.45 sellers at 1.46 lacs

Phase 9 Bahria Town Rawalpindi Pakistan 10 marla 3 paid buyers at 1.94 sellers at 1.97 lacs

Bahria Town Phase 8 without devolepment charges General blocks other than A B D C 3.05 to 3.30 lacs for 10 marla

Bahria Town Phase 8 with devolepment charges cleared in blocks A B D C 8.00 to 9.35 lacs for 10 marla

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***For More Detailed Prices Schemes Click Here***

***For Past Prices History Click Here***
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Rates you can trust are provided by:



Ch. Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
Lahore Real Estate
Registered/Authorized Dealer (DHA, EMAAR, Bahria Town, Urban Developers, etc.)
0423-111-111-040 in Office Hours Only
Mobile +92-322-400-9967
eMail: LRE786@GMail.com

http://www.LahoreRealEstate.com

5 Marla plot in DHA-5, 7 marla plot in DHA-6
Dear CMY,
D-900 ( 5 Marla plot in DHA-6)
I send you email regarding this plot. As you mention in sale list I tell you about my budget and other things can i have reply on them. I am waiting for your value able answer. I don't know from 2 weeks I am not able to put ad on your website. Its showing error all the time After i put one of my ad. May be it was with a lot of icons. May be i use the icons more then ten times thats why. But please do inform me on this plot. Because i Can't see this plot on the map. This is on your sale list i am willing to buy 5 marla plot in DHA_5 or 7 Marla in Phase-6.

Regards

Merger of Schemes in DHA Lahore
Few moments ago, I had a little chat with the Online Operator at DHA website. I asked him about merging of surrounding schemes in DHA. I am copying that chat here.

I think it is important to mention that operator is a representative of DHA office, therefore, his/her response is anticipated as DHA's office response, therefore, the below responses may not be inside information but responses for general public till something gets mature.


[23:36] ali: Hello
[23:36] Live Operator: hi how can i help you?
[23:36] ali: I have a specific question to ask about DHA Phase 9 & 10.
[23:37] Live Operator: ok
[23:37] ali: May I know what is the development starting and completion time frame for Phase 9 & 10?
[23:37] ali: If there is no exact time frame, please provide me rough estimate.
[23:37] Live Operator: it will b after its ballot no tim frrame can b given for ballot
[23:38] ali: Is it possible to provide rough estimate?
[23:38] Live Operator: no sorry
[23:38] Live Operator: we can not
[23:38] ali: Ok I understand, no problem.
[23:39] ali: Can I ask couple of questions more?
[23:39] Live Operator: ok
[23:39] ali: There are rumours in the market for merger or taking over of some schemes by DHA.
[23:40] ali: For example Paragon City, State Life, Formanites and HBFC etc
[23:40] Live Operator: No
[23:40] Live Operator: we have no such plans so far
[23:41] ali: May I confirm when you say no plans, that means there is nothing in process for any of the above given scheme at all?
[23:43] Live Operator: yes
[23:43] ali: thank you.

creek vista dha 8 karachi
Dear friends in middle east/europe

Creek vista apprtments are now ready and have been delivered to the customers.these are 3 and 4 bed appartments
(pl check dha website or google search for pictures and videos)

if some one is really interested to get it on rent/sale
pl contact the undersign on

adnansaleem4u@hotmail.com
These luxary flats are limited in number the rent demand is minimum Rs50,000/month

Why price difference in PHASE 8 file price?
CMY and others,

Why is the Phase 8 file price cheaper at the DHA website than what CMY is reporting?

http://www.dhalahore.org/prices_plots.html

DHA Phase 8 = 33.75 lacs on March 24th.

CMY Phase 8 = 35+ lacs

why the difference?

Dear viwers and mr. cmy

I was reading on the dha website (www.dhalahore.org) that some new blocks in DHA 6 have been released for construction, (i think it was block G and K, not 100% sure) anyway, it said that the owners of the plots are REQUIRED to build a house in 3 years?? I have never heard that before!

Is it the same case for DHA 6 B? I own a plot there and do not plan on building a house for atleast 3-4 years...

It also mentioned there will be a fine for not adhering to this... how much is the fine?

- thanks.

DHA Homes Phase 5 Lahore
DHA Homes Phase V Lahore were delivered recently

Need advise to buy in ISB / RWP
Aslama o Elikum,

I am currently planning to settle back to Pakistan, Already have all my Family in Rawalpindi and a house. But For futur, I would like to have a well placed home for me and my futur family.

I saw that there was a DHA Phase II extension that seem to me very nice. (8 marla one).

But you guys & gals seem to have experience. Would you advise me what to go for ? which area ? which housing ? Who to trust etc... ? Any ohter good housing then DHA ?

Also on DHA website there is no real project details, When will the construiction will complete etc.. ?

Shukria in advance for all your help and advises

Commercial Plot in Phase V
Salam and Ramadan Mubarak to All,
i want some information regarding phase V comm, area , like what is the current rate of 4 and 8 marlas comm. plot there , i have seen it on DHA website but i m not convinced by the prices since property market is on low. I would appreciate if some one can also brief out the difference between CCA and MB.

Regards,
Farhan

Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse at 11:30 Am May 08 , 2008
<<<<< Sample of DHA 8 allocation letter issued against Parkview non exisiting plots. Please examine this allocation letter closly. It clearly indicate you will get a plot and get it in DHA 8 at time of ballot. Parkview is now part of DHA and there is NO MORE involvement of old Parkview management.

Make sure you buy only a transfered allocation file in DHA8 (Parkview) and its current price is arround 31.40 lacs and a transfer file allocation should look like the attached letter. Open Parkview files are risky to buy and keep open because they could have some troubleered by DHA. 1st try not to buy a open file in DHA 8 (Parkview) and dont keep a this file still open after purchase because there have been cases where open have signs matching problems etc. . Make full payment to seller of PV open file only after you get it transfered in DHA office.

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension. Allocation: Buyer(s) at 35.55 Seller(s) at 35.65Lacs Available

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation Against land: Buyer(s) at 43.85 Seller(s) at 44.00 Lacs Available

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation Against land: Buyer(s) at 19 Seller(s) at 19.10 Lacs Available

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal file Buyer(s) at 31.35 Seller(s) at 31.50 Lacs.Available

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla file Buyer(s) at 20.20 Seller(s)at 20.30 Lacs.Available

Bahria Town Rawalpindi Phase 9, 3-Paid, 10-Marla: Buyer(s) at 1.56 Seller(s) at 1.58 Lacs

Bahria Town Rawalpindi Phase 9, 2-Paid, 10-Marla: Buyer(s) at 1.07 Seller(s) at 1.09 Lacs

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***Please note DHA Plots Prices updated on May 8 2008 ***
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DHA Lahore Ph 5 ( Price Range)

A ( 80 to 110), B ( 75 to 120 ), C ( 80 to 115 )
D ( 85 to 125 ), E ( 90 to 120 ), F ( 110 to 130 ), G ( 85 to 125 ), H ( 82 to 110 ), J ( 75 to 95 ), K ( 85 to 95 ), L ( 72 to 95 )

DHA Lahore Ph 6 ( Price Range)

A ( 55 to 75 ) B ( 62 to 80 ), C (50 to 70 ), D (50 to 65) , E ( 50 to 60 ), F ( 55 to 64 ), G (64 to 75 ), H ( 63 to 75 ), J ( 60 to 75 ), K (65 to 75 ), L ( 60 to 75 ), M ( 60 to 68 ), N ( 52 to 65 )

DHA Lahore Ph 7 ( Price Range)

P (42 to 65), Q ( 34 to 45 ), R (50 to 60 ), S (44 to 50 ), T ( 38 to 45), U ( 37 to 45 ), V (46 to 65 ) W ( 46 to 65 ), X ( 37 to 45 ), Y ( 34 to 45 ), Z (34 to 60)




State Life Phase 1 full paid plots

5 Marla = 15.55 to 17.25 lacs
10 Marla = 18.50 to 25 lacs
1 Kanal = 26 to 45 lacs (including non-possession plots)

State Life phase 2 full paid plots

5 Marla = 5.70 to 6.50 lacs
10 Marla = 8.00 to 10.00 lacs (Including 10 Marla new cutting in EE block)
1 Kanal = 11.75 to 16 lacs (Excluding 200 Ft MB Plots. MB plots go for upto 20 lacs)

DHA 8 Parkview Lahore full paid plots

1 Kanal = 35-50 (Non possession) , 65 to 95 lacs ( Possession area plots)
2 Kanal = 135-160 (Non possession) , 150 to 200 lacs ( Possession area plots)
DHA Villas in Parkview= -.50 lacs loss to 2.00 lacs profit


DHA 8 Air Avenue full paid plots
10 Marla = 40 to 50 lacs
1 Kanal = 65 to 85 lacs
2 Kanal = 150 to 170 lacs
4 M comm = 75 to 95 lacs
8 M comm = 175 to 200 lacs
32 M comm = 750 to 1000 lacs

Central Park

10 Marla = 7 to 12 lacs
1 Kanal = 13.50 to 20 lacs
2 Kanal = 25 to 35 lacs




NFC PHASE-II Price (Price is without development charges).

05-Marla = 2.25 to 3.50 Lacs
10-Marla = 3.25 to 5 Lacs
01-Kanal = 5.00 to 8 Lacs


Sui Gas 1

1 Kanal = 50 to 70 lacs
2 Kanal = 110 to 150 lacs

Sui Gas 2

1 Kanal = 11 to 16.50 lacs
2 Kanal = 24 to 28 lacs


(*** Important Note about Plot Prices: These prices cover more than 95% plots. Extremely bad or exceptionally good locations like MB plots may be priced out of these price ranges *** )


Dear friends I am extremely sorry for not updating rates for past 2-3 days. I had high fever and was unable to get to office. With your prayers and help of Allah I am 100% fine today ad back to work.

Market is very dull these days. People are worried to invest in property due to falling ruppee value, judges issue and budget fears. Plot and files prices are slowly falling but there is no panic selling or hurried buyers in market so not too major change to upside or down side is expected.

Also please note last couple of days there have been strong rumors in market that all Park view files against plots and land may have a ballot within next 7 days and these plots will fall next to current C block of Parkview close to DHA villas inside proper DHA 8 area and not across Berki road. Well respected people in market say DHA is doing this superb move and this way DHA 8 proper file price will not drop (If both are adjusted in proper DHA 8 area and ballot is held same time proper DHA 8 should drop and Parkview DHA 8 should rise to even out price). First DHA 8 Parkview ballot will be held shortly as per these rumors and plots prices of these balloted files will shoot up and then within 2008 DHA 8 proper ballot will be held. Please note this Parkview ballot news is still a romur and I have not been able to confirm it. Please dont do any buying selling based on this rumor alone.



Rates you can trust data is provided by Lahore Real Estate . 90-Y/2nd commercial, DHA Ph 3, Lahore

Please Call (+92-42-) 111-111-040, or Email: LRE786@GMail.com

Reliability of prices on official DHA site
Dear CMY Sahib

How reliable are plot prices on DHA website and are these prices built from historical sales? as an example, what kind of a plot would be which is on the minimum price list. Thanks

Story of Pakistani Seller,we like to share with you:
Story of Pakistani Seller,we like to share with you:
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We call the seller that we like to see your property & we may be buy it very quickly and also told him we came from overseas. He is very happy to know that we came from overseas. I also told one of my friend and local agent to go head of time and find out about the property and it real market value and do not tell the seller that you are with us.

When we reached to the Pakistani seller place he is very happy to see us. He immediately orders some cold drinks and snakes. He said you are our overseas guest. He told us property worth Pak 50,00,000 rupees. I told him you are sure that this property worth that much. He said yes I am already asking you fewer prices compare to the market because I need to sell it urgently because of some emergency in my family.

So our member agent said that is the party you are talking about coming from overseas and he said yes. Our agent start laughing and said to the seller he is my very old friend and like my brother and I work for him. So seller is embarrassed and immediately price came down to Pak rupees 25,00,000 from 50,00,000.

Lesson for Pakistani Sellers:
============================

Let me say this to Pakistani sellers do not try to make overseas Pakistanis fool and lie. In today world things work differently and do no embarrass your self. Be honest with every one.

IF ANYONE WORRY ABOUT PH 8 RATE THEN CHEAK THE LINK OF DHA OFFICIAL WEBSITE

RATE IS GOING UP NOT DOWN

TODAY PH 8 RATE IS IN DHA WEBSITE 40.75 LAC



http://www.dhalahore.org/plots_prices.xls

sir cmy aoa we want to know how we check dha website now bcoz they change something on their site thanx

For sale

dha homes
can someone update price of these 10 marla homes
i have checked brosure on dha website ,it seems there term and conditions are very unfair,as u wont be able to know which house u been allotted and if there are more people interested and booked these houses then some ppl even wont get any houses and will just get there money back in 2 or may be 3 years.I wonder how they conduct there business ,they dont even have anything like show home or marketting stuff,nothing on ground level and withh all that unclearity about some critical areas.
Still my dear brothers will be wiling to take chance.we dont have much competetion going on,normally ppl who are selling have to give way to sell their productd,unfortunately it doesnt work like that in ou dear country
plz COMMMENT

In continuation of post # 25360

Dear Jameel Sahib:

The sites that you have mentioned display many inaccurate rates. I can challenge several rates if requested, and prove the inaccuracies. You will be doing yourself a disservice if you buy/sell based on those rates. Those rates are not frequently updated. On one site I found many major typos also. I have witnessed huge discrepancies in recent prices on those sites. Still I will not go as far to doubt the intentions of rate providers. May be it’s just that they don’t update every single piece every time they update the site. Some rates are probably just carried on in next update.

Dear Sir, after reading your answers to my post, I feel that you are a reasonable person, and you have realized that your criticism about rates and doubting CMY’s intention was inappropriate. If that is the case, then I think it’s better to admit it with big heart, and not find excuses.

Dear Malik Sufian Sahib:

Please come out from under your table and at least answer the points raised in post # 25360.

Have you heard about that painter who spent countless hours on his life's best painting, a masterpiece, and placed it in the center of the city for people to take a look and asked them to point any shortcomings? The next day his painting was full of marks and a lot of expert comments about the downsides, flaws and deficiencies in the painting. He was very disheartened.

He spent another countless hours and again created the same painting, and this time placed in the center of the city with a note asking people to make it better or correct if they saw any imperfections. Next day there was not a single mark or expert comment on that painting.

Dear Khan Sahib from Canada:

You said: “Everybody has a right to say what they think on this website. This is the only way transperancy can be maintained.”

My answer: With every RIGHT comes RESPONSIBILITY. You have right to say whatever you think, but also have the responsibility to prove why you think it especially if you are blaming someone. Blaming as a Chaska is not acceptable.

You said: “Donot forget the main purpose of this site was to establish a contact and raporre for CMY with the buyers all over the world. Which has been done very successfully. Even a person like me knows how to reach and get hold of CMY anytime and that you are his younger brother operating in Islamabad.”

My answer: The purpose of this site initially was just to provide a discussion platform for overseas Pakistanis to share ideas. We were and still are learners ourselves. Now that we are in this business, there is some business/commercial interest also involved.

A little correction to be made here is that although we are dealing in some Islamabad societies now, I am settled and operating in Lahore, not Islamabad.

You said: “So if you suggest to close down the website, you are gonna axe your own feet. And remember, the best salesman is the one who is very polite and humble and ready to take any comments from anybody. Learn from CMY- Cheers”

My answer: Read again what I said… “It’s because of several “geniuses” like these gentlemen that I am formally requesting Mr. CMY to stop this free service of rate updates.”

I have only mentioned free service of rate updates. We as a nation tend to trust more if we pay for a service, and tend to doubt more if the service is free. I am sure if there was a reasonable subscription fee for “Rates You Can Trust” updates, only very serious people who value the importance of credible research will bother to pay, and we will have more time to focus, improve and expand that service instead of wasting our time answering baseless accusations like in this post.

BTW I don’t think most visitors of this site and even CMY will agree to do that.

I nowhere mentioned or intended the closure of the website. This is just my suggestion to improve the quality of service on this website. May be we can have two layers of service, one free service for general public with less frequent rates updates, and research articles and other for paid subscribers with detailed more frequent rates update, on-demand research, and other facilities.


Abid Yasin
Lahore Real Estate (Pvt) Ltd
LRE786@gmail.com, info@LahoreRealEstate.com
0300-8400813, 0321-8400813
042-5729646 to 48, 042-8444451

Prices posted on DHA website are much less as posted by CMY especially for phase 6 and 7. May be prices of DHA are not the demand prices but based upon actual deals.prices of a,c,e etc sectors of phase 6 are 42 lacs minimum.

This sucks...
I have been trying to check out the results on DHA website against my allocation letter as which plot # is it assigned against but the site gets jammed....I guess I will have to wait till morning news paper.

PHASE 7 BALLOT RESULT IS HERE

ALRIGHT PEOPLE. PHASE VII RESULTS HAVE BEEN POSTED ON DHA WEBSITE. TO ADD MORE PAIN, THEY HAVE LISTED PLOT WISE. HAVE FUN LOOKING FOR YOUR NIC No. IN 54 PAGES.

http://dhalahore.org/a2o.pdf

RESULT SHEET
HI ALL,
I GOT A RESULT SHEET OF BALLOTING, CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO POST IT ON WEB?

DHA Lahore Ballot Details
Let me explain how this ballot was going to be held and what happened to it.
DHA wanted to have this ballot as fair as possible. To make it most transparent ballot DHA Lahore history they hired 2 firms Hawk Telecom and Netsol. Both companies were given data to have the ballot software do the matching the plot numbers to applications. There were private consultants like professors from Lums that checked the program so it was not possible for ballot software makers to manipulate or change any entry. And to make sure every body had equal chance.
At time of ballot chief guest in auditorium could have selected either Hawk Telecom or Netsol to get final results printed that should have taken about 35 minutes.

When ballot started chief guest frist selected Netsol to start the program to match the plot numbers for past allocation files holders and to select new winners from fresh applications for civilians and military applicants. After about 900 results it came to notice of general public and DHA admin that Netsol software is missing lot of data so they immediately stopped the Netsol program.
At this point Hawk Telecom that also was also waiting at start of ballot program at beginning had every thing ready to go and was waiting just for press of a button to start crunching the numbers. But they were told to move their computer closer to projectors that were showing results to thousands in auditorium hall. Hawk Telecom guys just pulled the plug of computer that was running ballot software in a hurry and failed to shut down their computers properly. When they started ballot program after placing their computers on new table their ballot software failed to start properly. Because of sudden shut down of computer their program and input data got badly corrupted. The Hawk Telcom guys had only one computer and no back program or input data. So their programmer started to modify the program to make it work again. Guy was under extreme pressure to start this program ASAP. Due to failure of his program at start and presence of Brigadiers Cols and generals in the hall along with thousands of persons in the hall and no backups with him guy was very nervous. It took him 1.45 hours to start the ballot program to make it work. He almost fell from his chair 2-3 times during this 1.45 hours. Either program was written very badly or they had very old computers it took next 8 hours for computer to match simple text numbers of applications with plot numbers . Results came out and they had major errors for allocation files in them. Each allocation file was assigned two plots ( many were saying as joke Buy one get one free

I don’t think there was any thing wrong with Brigadier Fazal Nawaz Khan, Administrator Defense Housing Authority, Lahore and his staff actions about this ballot. He chose not to have an in house ballot so ballot could be more transparent. He selected two separate private companies Hawk Telecom and Netsol to design independent ballot software. He had panel of professors from private universities like LUMS to verify that programs and data used can’t be manipulated to cheat any one. He did his best to make this ballot as fair as possble and open to every one. It was grave negligence on part of these two big Pakistani companies that showed up on ballot day with only one old computer each with no BIG WIGS from those companies with no backup for their computers and the data. They failed to bench test their computers and software / programs before the ballot. Brigadier Fazal Nawaz was very helpful to every one in the hall that was waiting for results and to these couple of programmers from NetSol and Hawk Telecom during all these 12 hours from start ballot. He applogised again and again for delay in ballot and first offered tea to thousands of persons in hall waiting for results. Then have gave full dinner to each of thousands persons in hall waiting for results. Brigadier Fazal was sitting with rest of the public and monitoring the ballot himself all time. I don’t know what he could have done more to make this ballot fair and easy for general public. His attentions were very good and clear to have clean and fair ballot. But these software companies failed badly to perform well as many multi national companies. These companies should have developed better software for this ballot. Tested this software 100 times before this ballot. They should have used latest much faster computers.

Bigadier Fazal Nawaz was still watching/waiting for ballot results to be printed all day on Saturday too. He was still in his office after staying up all night on Friday for ballot. Then on Saturday at 5 pm 300 plus sheets were printed to post outside DHA office. He was presented for signing each sheet. He
Looked at first few sheets and signed only first sheet. First 50 or so sheet had no errors and applications had only single plot to each applicant. It was last 250 or so sheets that had 9500 allocations that had the massive error.Fazal sahib and every body else including programers failed to notice plot duplication error. Brig Fazal signed 1st sheet right away and ordered posting of all sheets immediately because public was desperately waiting outside DHA office for many hours to see the results of ballot. He and other failed to see all sheets results because of extreme tiredness and pressure to post results ASAP. I don’t know about you but I think it is a honest mistake even I could have made after all this sleepiness tiredness and pressure. There was no plan to cheat any one in all this time.

Now let me explain why results are not on line yet. The IT guy for WWW.DHALAHORE.ORG have been working for last 3 days without much sleep to make it possible to post these results online ASAP. But he has no proper data to upload results online because of bad data from Hawk Telecom.

I have found nothing wrong on DHA admin side to this ballot fairly. Its a mess created by negligence of software developers and I think it will be only fair to have a new ballot instead of trusting this messed up data from this current BAD ballot.

It is requested that we respect each other and don’t post bad remarks about our great army men that are putting their life at risk for our safety day and night. Just last month I purchased a DHA phase 7 file for my client from a widow of man who was recently killed in line of duty. She was only 28 to 30 years old was recently widowed. It is extremely sad to see people pass remarks for all military men without looking what was going on in the background.Its not the fault of all our army.
There were mistakes in this ballot like non discloser of each category numbers of plots before the applications submission. But these kind of mistakes can be pointed out without using very bad language against our entire army. Army is 100 times less corrupt then 95% politicians in our Pakistan.

Write to DHA admin in proper manner and let him know it is not acceptable but please don’t degrade yourself by posting rubbish stuff.And it can be done in a civilized manner.Keep in mind we all need to correct ourselves too.

I posted all this details here because its not possible for DHA admin to post their point of view in here in replay to all these allegations.If some one is trying to help clean up the things its my duty to give him credit for it.Brigadier Fazal Nawaz Khan have been doing awesome job since he came to this office.He have been great in speeding up development work in phase 6 now in 7 and 8.Improving public relationship in DHA office for transfers and other stuff.Improving existing DHA phases roads and other infrastructure etc.Guy takes action if you let him know there is a problem.My salute to him for his hard work and honesty.I belive him 100% and think he is best thing ever happened to DHA.

Ch Mujahid Yasin
0300-4009967

Balloting
Dear Friends: I am interested to know what has happed to the balloting of DHA.,Phase seven which was likely to be done on the 30th June,2006. It is not appearing on their website . Is there any one who could tell me whether the balloting of this scheme by the DHA,Phase seven has been completed or
the date has been extended.

Thanks and Regards,


kaydee@icqmail.com