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 Monday, July 26, 2010 12:33 PM PST Reply: 
Beautiful Bungalow for Sale Faisal Town , Lahore
15 marla, double storey, corner bungalow is available for sale. It is situated in Faisal Town, near Gourmet Bakery, Lahore. It contains 8 bedrooms, attached tiled baths, double drawing / dining, double TV lounge, double kitchen, store, servant quarter, marble, beautiful woodwork and ideal for big or two families, very near from main road. Call me Choudhary Arshad Javed at +92 332 4359578
Buyer replied on Monday, July 26, 2010 09:23 PM PST
It is always polite to put your demand upfront. |
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| AAlee |
| alam_ch@hotmail.com | | Phone:03014067127 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Sunday, July 25, 2010 09:53 AM PST Reply: 
Good physician in Lahore
being new in lahore I intend to know some very experienced and good physician practicing in lahore for My old mother to cosult for general health problems Can some one post the name / location of his practice
I shall be thankful
AAkram replied on Sunday, July 25, 2010 01:50 PM PST
AOA,
You may go to Dr. Iftikhar Ahmed (Ex. King Edward Principal) in Chauburji just opposite to PIA Planitarium. |
ashraf replied on Monday, July 26, 2010 05:27 PM PST
Dr Iftikhar is a old man above 80 ,his son has a fake degree, go to some young doctor . |
Adnan552 replied on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 07:18 PM PST
It depends on the problem.
You can see Dr Faisal Masood (Endocrinologist) at Akbar Chowk Faisal Town.
Dr Jawad Zaheer(Physician) at Naseer Clinic at Canal.
If Gastro problem, See Dr Haroon Yousuf at Shalamar Hospital
Hope this helps. |
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 Friday, July 23, 2010 03:39 PM PST Reply: 
Lahore Development Authority allows commercial activity on many roads
Contrary to its commercialization policy, the Lahore Development Authority (LDA) has allowed commercial activities on several roads.
Some days back, the authority carried out a grand operation against what it claimed illegal commercialization and sealed over 150 shops, including showrooms, restaurants, real estate and other business offices, etc, on Khayaban-e-Jinnah.
The LDA’s operation started early morning as its Town Planning and Enforcement Directorate officials reached Khayaban-e-Jinnah (the road leading from Shaukat Khanum Hospital to Raiwind road) with all the necessary machinery, manpower and a heavy contingent of police.
After the operation, LDA officials claimed that they had sealed more than 150 business ventures, including three marriage halls, two bakeries, several small and medium shops, real estate offices, a number of fast food restaurants. All these plots fell in the category of residential pieces of land as per the scheme plan, they added.
They said further commercialization along the road had already been banned under the new commercialization policy, adding the staff had also demolished several encroachments and illegal constructions during the action.
The authority had started to implement the commercial policy approved in October last year, they said. Sources in LDA revealed that, soon after the operation against illegal commercialization, the authority had started receiving telephone calls from the influential.
Consequently, the policy was relaxed to let most of the shops, show rooms and business ventures on Khayaban-e-Jinnah carry on their business activities within 24 hours of the operation.
The LDA’s action at Khayaban-e-Jinnah was the first proper operation against illegal commercialization. Its failure has not only brought bad name to the Punjab government and the LDA but also blocked the way of any similar operations in future. Residents of other city localities wanted to know on whose directions the illegal commercial activity had been allowed.
They said if the ongoing commercial business on Khayaban-e-Jinnah was not wrong, why the LDA had sealed over 150 shops. They have demanded action against the LDA officials if they had carried out the operation to settle their personal scores or to harass among the business community for some other motives.
A senior LDA official said the roads not permitted for future commercial use included Main Boulevard, Shadbagh, Main Boulevard, Sabzazar Scheme, Main Boulevard, Gulshan-e-Ravi, Tollinton Market Road, Shadman, Poonch Road, Samanabad Campus Bridge Road, Garden Town, Qazi Esa Road, Faisal Town, Shabbir Usmani Road, New Garden Town, Shah Jillani Road, Main Boulevard, PIA Scheme, Main Boulevard, Joher Town (Maulana Shaukat Ali to Shaukat Khanum Hospital), Main Boulevard, Joher Town (Canal Road Link), Main Boulevard, Joher Town (Doctor Hospital link), By-pass Road, Johar Town (Expo Centre), Khayaban-e-Jinnah, Canal Bank Road, Link Raiwind Road-Aitchison Scheme Road, Raiwind Road, Maulana Shaukat Ali Road (from Canal Bank Road to Jinnah Hospital), Main Boulevard, Shadman (Nallah Drain to Shah Jamal Round About), Wahdat Road (Faiz Road Intersection to Multan Road), Ferozepur Road (UBD Canal to Kalma Chowk), Multan Road (Chowk Yatim Khana to Defence Road).
However, all kinds of new commercial ventures are being carried out on these roads, with the LDA acting as a silent spectator. No LDA official is ready to speak over the issue on record. When contacted, LDA Town Planning director Um e Laila did not bother to pick up her cell phone. Director General LDA was also not available for comments.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=251948
Salman replied on Friday, July 23, 2010 06:43 PM PST
There are not very many business opportunities in Pakistan anyways. Govt. instead of being business friendly is getting hostile towards the business community. This is so unlike the previous govt. of sharif brothers.
I agree that laws must be adhered to. But can't there be laws which foster economic spirit. After all, parliament has to make these laws. Ruin comes to a soceity when law and justice are not same. |
Punjabi replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 01:58 AM PST
Shahbaz Sharif and his Govt. is a bigger joke then the PPP Govt. atleast the pipliay are honest in there dishonesty. this short and bald guy is the Taya of Munafqat. |
eh replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 08:54 AM PST
Punjabi well said. Baemani ka dhanda emandari kay saath. |
MAS replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 01:46 PM PST
Salman, I am wondering how can legalizing commercialization of residential property be in line with justice. For our own residence we want a peaceful and quite place where by-laws are strictly enforced but for the rest of town we want to "foster economic spirit" by rewarding law breakers who created nuisance for law abiding neighbors. That is not justice.
This seems no different from Mr.(not Dr)Babar Awan's and PML-N's desire to not go after Forged Degrees of MNAs and MPAs "to foster democracy" in Pakistan.
May be your idea can be implemented with justice but only after imposing fines on law breakers and compensating the neighbors who are affected. What are your suggestions? |
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 Friday, July 23, 2010 03:30 PM PST Reply: 
LDA misses commercialization survey deadline LAHORE: The Lahore Development Authority (LDA) has extended the deadline for completion of its survey of the city from July 12 to July 25.
The decision was taken after the 44-member team, comprising University of Engineering and Technology (UET) students, managed to cover only 90 per cent of the areas by the stipulated time.
A senior LDA official told The Express Tribune that the survey of all 200 private housing schemes, approved by the LDA, and 32 out of the 52 schemes developed by the LDA was complete.
The official said that three UET students and an LDA assistant director will review the findings and finalise the LDA’s permanent commercialisation policy by July 31.
He said that satellite imagery of the commercial areas had already been obtained and marked. He added that a digital database would be compiled to make the policy formation process more efficient.
The LDA official said employing the UET students would allow a saving of about Rs100 million which would have been spent had the LDA hired the services of professionals. He added that the students were being paid Rs15,000 per month. He said that the last such survey was conducted by senior officers of the LDA’s town planning wing and commercialisation branch. “They are not available this year so we had to outsource the task,” he added.
He said that after the announcement of permanent commercialisation policy, LDA would seek an amendment in its Lahore Master Plan 2021 to make it compatible with the new changes.
Before 2001, the LDA used to commercialise property on permanent basis by charging 20 per cent of the value of land (scheduled rate).
The authority also allowed one-year commercialisation by charging three per cent of the permanent commercialisation fee (20 per cent of the scheduled rate). For every subsequent year, it charged 10 per cent of the permanent commercialisation fee. The temporary commercialisation option was available to buildings but not to open plots.
This arrangement continued till October 2009 when the LDA announced its interim commercialisation policy under which the temporary commercialisation rate was increased from three per cent to six per cent of the permanent commercialisation fee. The rate would rise to nine per cent for the next year (2010) and to 12 per cent for 2011.
Under the temporary commercialisation policy, the LDA planned to establish a Central Business District (CBD) in the city comprising Jail Road, Main Boulevard of Gulberg, MM Alam Road, a segment of Hali Road and Shahrahe Noor Jehan, Gulberg.
The LDA also allowed commercialisation activity along the entire length of 17 roads that fell under its jurisdiction under the newly introduced Land Use (classification, re-classification and redevelopment) Rules of 2009.
These roads include Jail Road (Ghaus Al Azam Road), Main Boulevard of Gulberg, MM Alam Road, Stadium Road (Noor Jahan Road), Quaid-i-Azam Road, Tariq Road, MM Alam Link Road, a road behind the Liberty Market, Firdous Market Road (Ali Zeb Road), Gulberg Main Market link roads on Shezan side and Auriga side, the Chen One Road (a segment of Ghalib Road), a portion of Civic Centre Road, Garden Town, Model Town Link Road, Al-Madina Road in Township, Bagrian Road and Mian Boulevard of Samanabad.
Commercial activity was also allowed on some portions of 12 other roads including Maulana Shaukat Ali Road, Main Boulevard of Shadman, Main Boulevard of Garden Town, College Road in Gulberg, Park Road, Ali Zeb Avenue, Abul Hasan Isfahani Road in Faisal Town, Zafar Ali Road, Gulberg 5, MM Alam Link Road, Shadman, a part of the Race Course Road, Link Road, Main Boulevard Garden Town, Wahdat Road, Ferozpur Road, Canal Road to Railway Crossing.
The LDA imposed complete ban on commercialisation on 20 roads that fell in residential areas. Most of these roads fall under Johar Town and Sabzazar Housing Schemes. Other roads on which commercialisation has been banned include Wahdat Road from Multan Road to Naqsha Stop and Khayaban-i-Jinnah from Shaukat Khanam Hospital to Raiwind Road.
The LDA had announced that the illegally set up commercial buildings on the 20 roads would be demolished.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/28333/lda-misses-commercialisation-survey-deadline/
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| Anwer Khan |
| anwer_khan@hotmail.com | | Phone:03454004000 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:21 PM PST Reply: 
House for Sale in Faisal Town
A beautiful 10 Marla House is available for Sale in C-1 Block Faisal Town, Lahore.
The house is located on a 60 ft. wide road linking Faisal Town Main Boulevard and Shaukat Ali Road.
It has very big spacious bedrooms rarely found in a 10 marla house.
Main features of the house are given below:
5 spacious bedrooms: 2 on ground and 3 upstairs. (5th bedroom does not have attached bath but attached to Master Bedroom(can be used as a study or kid's bedroom)
2 kitchens
Stairs from inside and outside (easily convertible to 2 units)
Large Drawing/Dining and lounge.
Servant Quarter with Washroom.
2 large cars easily parked in the Porch.
Huge Terrace in front.
LG Wooden Floors in 2 bedrooms and Lounge.
50 metres from Main Boulevard.
Widest road in all C and C-1 Block.
On T Junction (Road in front of the house)
Short Walk to Moon Market Faisal Town, Mosque and Hospital.
Demand is Rs 1 crore 5 lac. For viewing please contact me on 0345 400 4000.
Jameel replied on Friday, July 16, 2010 01:42 PM PST
I have Been Looking for house in Faisal Town and saw about 12 Houses including your house. I Think the real worth of your house in Current market is about 85. I Just did a Biana of House in 70 [71.75 all inclusive], The Location of that house is also too good Only difference is it is 30 Feet Road but next to corner on 60 Feet Road and does not need much renovation.
Any How good luck |
Anwer replied on Friday, July 16, 2010 02:01 PM PST
Dear Jameel Bhai,
This is the demand price not the final price. There is always room for negotiation. Good that you found a house in 70 lac, but you are yourself think that the worth of this house is definitely around 85 lac. So I dont think my demand is unreasonable. There is a huge difference in 30 ft road and 60 ft road.
A newly built house on the same street as mine (corner but in front of Mosque sold for 125 lac and the demand was much higher than that. So it all depends on the type of house and location.
Thanks for your comments and congratulations on your new house. |
Jameel replied on Friday, July 16, 2010 02:52 PM PST
Anwar it is Not to hurt you but to tell you as I have spent sometime looking houses for me and my close relatives, The House you are referring is Corner House Brand new and Last year sold in 117, not in 125. Ever since prices are even more suppressed, The House exactly on the back of same corner house next to corner is available on demand 75 still negotiable. |
Asif replied on Friday, July 16, 2010 04:40 PM PST
Salam
Although I have not seen this house I offer 80 lakh cash as blind offer just like blind date. |
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 Wednesday, July 7, 2010 06:55 PM PST Reply: 
Asif replied on Thursday, July 8, 2010 10:07 AM PST
Respected CMY Sahib: Jubilee Town map is missing. Can you please update? Many Thanks. |
LDA AVE 1 replied on Thursday, July 8, 2010 11:53 AM PST
LDA Ave -1 is also missing |
Habib replied on Thursday, July 8, 2010 11:58 AM PST
Thanks a Lot, I understand it is lot of effort and dedication |
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| Muhammad Tariq |
| tariq_sattar@hotmail.com | | City & Country: Lahore Pakistan | |
 Wednesday, June 9, 2010 08:50 PM PST Reply: 
1 Kanal Semi Commercial House In Faisal Town For Sale
1 Kanal Semi commercial cornor house is for sale. Ideal for any kind of business. Interest person my contact on this no: 0300-4165092
or email : tariq_sattar@hotmail.com
khokher replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 09:44 PM PST
brother, is this property approved commercial(with papers)? |
Muhammad Tariq replied on Thursday, June 10, 2010 04:31 PM PST
mr. khokher this is semi commercial cornor house and situated on very ideal location (Faisal Town Main Boulevard). Here any type of business can be done |
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 Tuesday, June 8, 2010 06:02 PM PST Reply: 
Furnished house in Lahore
Dear Friends, i am planning a vacation trip to Pakistan for 45 days. For that period i need a modestly furnished appartment / portion in Lahore. Preffered location would be
1. Township (A-1 Sector)
2. Garden Town
3. Faisal Town
4. Model Town
5. Cantt
6. Safari Villa (5 marla)
I shall also be requiring a car (1000cc with a/c) to travel around. Thus an offer in the form of a package would be more appropriate for me, i mean house with car. I have a family of 3 kids (all below 10 yrs).
Offers may be sent on hanu_1234@hotmail.com
Thanks
from abroad replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 10:42 AM PST
i suggest you to include a power generator and also look for a guarded house if you must visit your beloved motherland. |
Kashif Riaz replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 03:48 PM PST
Dear from abroad,
your view point is showing that you watch the mashroomed Private channels a lot......... dont worry Pakistan is not tat bad..
Regards |
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 Tuesday, May 18, 2010 01:57 PM PST Reply: 
how any one compare the DHA lahore and like Wapda and valacia twon
ND replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 09:01 PM PST
All these socieies are good.It depends what you want,and where your work place is and kids schools.These things have to be kept in mind.Plus in defence the cost of living is very high as compared to the rest of the city.And you dont know who is living next door.As personally I feel who so ever has money goes to defence,and believe me in Pakistan,lots of people have illegal money,so I suggest from the family point of view such neighbourhood should be avoided.Kids living there become complexed,and follow a unreal and pseudo kind of a lifestyle.Expenses are 3 times of a normal household,home help is expensive and much more.This is what I hear from my friends who live in defence,whenever I go to Pakistan |
Like_DHA replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 09:18 PM PST
Dear ND,
if there are so many bad things about DHA, why are your friends living there? I think its better overall than WAPDA Town and Valancia in any case. Ask 50 people about their choice over the two, and I believe Majority will vote for DHA. |
Jameel replied on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 02:14 AM PST
I had a choice between DHA and Faisal Town, prices were almost same in both. Life is peaceful In DHA but every day you have to suffer Travelling to and fro, The cost of Living is Double In DHA in terms you need minimum 3 Cars and at least one full time driver, who can pick and drop your Kids. I visited DHA 4 main commercial Grocery Shops etc {The House I was looking was in phase 4 GG Block], I had a list of items in My hand but none was available rather they kept on saying we have "Imported only" which was costing more than double. Then I went to a so called teaching academy, It was merely a 2 Merla Shop in basement, They did not have any good teachers and was also asking hefty money per subject, Educational Standard of Children was disappointing.
I have 3 Kids Going to 7, 10 and 12th I realized that there is only artificial living in Defence all business is based on Property and I was afraid that my Kids will be dull if they have to stay in DHA. Another problem was I wanted some of my family member to temporarily live in that House for at least one year. But they refused that it will cost them too much and their children education will be adversely affected. Having all this input I cancelled the deal in DHA the House was Kanal with 5 bed Double Potion very well renovated Final demand was 1.3 Cror. People Living DHA were telling this was amazing price. |
DHA Resident replied on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:32 AM PST
@ Jameel
Looking at your dishonesty and fabrication in your answer I cannot tell you how glad I am that you did not choose to live in DHA. Please NEVER change your mind.
@ Readers other than Jameel
Please beware. This is a totally fabricated story by Jameel sb. I don't know his bias or agenda though. I am amazed why he wanted to send his kids to a basement of 2 marla shop. Does this ..... think DHA residents send their children to study in basement of 2 marla shops. How he could only find imported things in DHA when other residents like me can easily find all local and inexpensive imported items easily in DHA.
To save even more money one can go once a week or once a month to any major wholesale stores like METRO, Macro, Hyperstar etc. For vegetable, fruits, and such items one can find best rates compared with any other area of Lahore within 5 minutes reach from anywhere in DHA e.g. Walton Rd, Qainchi, Defence Road, Nishat, Charar, Ghallas etc. There are also Sunday Bazars in DHA for buying cheap groceries and household items. Obviously like everywhere else in the world almost every household need item is available in sector shops of blocks of DHA. In major market areas of DHA like G, H, and Y block chains of all major pharmacies and stores like Gourmet with same price tags as rest of the Lahore are available. For other needs of life for example you can have a hair cut from Rs. 50 to Rs. 1000 it is your choice. You can dine from Rs. 25 a person to Rs. 1000 at your choice.
As far as education is concerned one can find best schools of Lahore from LGS, Beaconhouse, Ibn-e-Sina, Defence schools, etc. to LUMS, LSE etc. inside of DHA or well within reach. It is your own choice if you want to send your kids to 2 marla shop basement.
DHA has the best infrastucture, best trafic control, best water supply, best implementation of by laws, best maintained parks, masjids (no loud speaker speeches here), best maintained community clubs, best cinema in Lahore, best security and all other needs of life. All major banks, restaurants, stores for rich, upper middle and middle class. If anything is not available in DHA. It is not far and beyond easy reach.
Even the poor servants working in DHA homes can easily find groceries, household items and cheap schools for their kids in adjacent areas of DHA within few minutes walk from most areas and within 5 minutes cycle ride from the middle of DHA.
Hundreds of thousands of Happy DHA residents (most educated and brightest) are a witness to the above mentioned facts. |
nasir replied on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 02:04 PM PST
@DHA Resident,
Very well said, as i am living in DHA as well, but commuting is still an issue, Phase-1 - 4 were never built to coup today's traffic. Morning, noon & evening, its all mess. Adding to it the poor women drivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At the moment first 5 phases of DHA are not fully occupied, perhaps only 50-60% occupied, I wonder what will happen in near future. |
DHA Resident replied on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 02:41 PM PST
Commuting depends on where you work. If you work too far and have to drive through heavy city traffic to reach your workplace then it is wise to live near your workplace.
For me traffic within DHA is fine, rather much better than rest of the city. I live in Z block and work in Garden Town. A very wide (in fact huge) Khyaban-e-Iqbal, recetly expanded Walton road cum Ferozepur road extension is all I need. For the Ring Road side DHA expressway is good enough to handle the load and bypass Bhatta chowk until that is redone too like Walton Road and Qainchi area. |
Habib replied on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 04:12 PM PST
To arrange the groceries is not a problem one of my friend who was living before in Raj gar shifted to DHA, He told me that every month i goto Raj garh and pack my Car with groceries and bring to my house. In between I have to go to Bhatta Chowk or Ghazi raod for good choice of groceries and good rates. He was looking very satisfied but he was a retired man who had kids abraod so i could not get input about small kids needs/ education. |
Like_DHA replied on Thursday, May 20, 2010 01:40 AM PST
A very important point being that DHA is safe and secure when it comes to transaction of land, I have seen people losing land in Johar Town, Raiwind Road, and other LDA societies....
If u are an overseas Pakistani, u can still leave a plot in DHA without a chowkidar and chardiwari..(Plz correct me if I am wrong)
Infact, these days, DHA offers the same or somewhat similar price as other societies with better fecilities,, and I believe that whenever the price boom re-occurs, DHA prices will increase atleast 1.5 times more than other counterparts.. |
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 Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:24 PM PST Reply: 
LDA Completion Certificate
ASA Dear Friends,
The construction of my 5 Marla house in Johar Town is just finished. I had terrible experience of getting the Naqsha (House Layout/ map) passed from LDA (i.e. corruption and demand of illegal money).
Now since house is complete I believe I will need a Completion Certificate and as always I am expecting demand of illegal money from LDA. Can any brother tell me how to avoid this situation, or how to best deal with this matter etc.
Also, how much amount is currently being demanded for completion certificates?
Salam
Jawad
Habib replied on Thursday, May 13, 2010 04:07 PM PST
These days many thing in LDA can be done through proper channel. You just need to follow repeatedly and just little push at lower level clerks may work well. Officers are much terrified by Shahbaz Sherif.
But you need to have plenty of spare time to at least come to office twice a week. |
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 Thursday, May 13, 2010 01:29 AM PST Reply: 
Down Town V out skirts
At this time one can find a 10 Merla old house in 70 to 75 in well Planned down town city Like Faisal Town or Model Tow ext.
At the same time 10 Merla House in out Skirts Like WAPDA Town, Valancia, Tricon Valley or even Bahria is almost same price [no matter latter options are mostly new houses.]
If we compare these prices it not down town much cheaper. In European countries down town houses are about 3 to 4 times expensive why it is not so in pakistan
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 Tuesday, May 4, 2010 01:59 PM PST Reply: 
Allah rakha replied on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 02:38 PM PST
yes i also heard this. |
Jameel replied on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 09:41 PM PST
Hussain that is a good news, I own a plot in D Block
But I have confirmed my self except 2 Blocks there are no Roads, No sewage, 100% LDA 1 have no electric Lines, Gas is something beyond imagination to ask. What possession you are talking of. In 2007 300 Plots were given possession as a political stunt but still you cant even locate those plots. I Think LDA as Dept is deteriorating in performance, You can imagine From Faisal Town > Model Town ext> Johar Town> LDA 1 its performance has gone down at the pace of free fall. I would rate
Faisal Town 100%
Model Town Ext 80%
Johar town 50%
and Now LDA avenue 1 20% satisfaction
The style of your ad is showing you are looking for buyers for your Investment. |
Aftab replied on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 02:32 PM PST
Thanks for the news. I also called LDA and confirmed this news. I don't know how they can give possession if the work is incomplete. LDA told me that they have given payment to WAPDA for electricity and soon you will see starting work there.
Can anyone tell me what is current price of 10 Marla plot? How much price escalation/ increase is excepted after possession.
Regards |
Zahid Munir replied on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 03:39 PM PST
I spoke to a concerned official in LDA on 4 May. Information provided by him is reproduced below for guidance of visitors of this web site:
1) Development work by FWO is complete in most of LDA AV 1 including roads, sewerage, water supply and sui gas.
2) Electricity work is yet to be completed and LDA has recently paid Rs 23 mln to WAPDA TO start the work.
3) Possesion will be given to allottees who have cleared all dues.
4) No possession where areas are under litigation.
PS. I visited my plot in Block A about three weeks back. Development work was complete less electricity. Even the 9 kanal park behind the plot had its boundary wall and iron grill constructed.
CMY and other experts are requested to give their views about effect on market price of plots after handing over of possession. |
friend replied on Wednesday, May 5, 2010 04:02 PM PST
dear zahid ,aftab and hussain
lda is giving this lolly pop for the last 2 years.
if u want to enjoy it thats your choice if you think its again risky seel it and go to dha 7.you may have to add little more money but dha is dha .it will give you peace of mind and it is a hot cake .
choice is yours
well it is what i did .i sold my plot on the back of main road of lda av and got one in S block phase 7.i had to add 6 lacs only but i am happy. |
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 Saturday, May 1, 2010 04:58 PM PST Reply: 
Exemption vs allotment
In Johar Town and Faisal Town, will someone clarify the difference between exemption vs allotment Plot. What precautions one should take to buy an exemption plot. 2ndly will someone describe if in past history of transfers if there was first transfer on "Mukhtar Nama" what are repercussions. I have no experience of LDA area hence asking these questions.
Thanks
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| Saud |
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 Friday, April 30, 2010 05:28 AM PST Reply: 
Tricon Village Lahore
Dear all I am planning to buy a house at tricon village Lahore. Can any body give me some info and guide me. If it is a good idea. And what is the reputation of this society?
Jameel replied on Friday, April 30, 2010 10:44 AM PST
This society is very good so far well maintained but i don't know reputation of developer. If you like that area then better switch to Bahria or EME,
I myself was in Fix to buy a House in that area but when I Found that in same price you can buy an old well constructed house in well planned area like Faisal Town, Model Town ext etc I dropped the idea of going 15 From City.
But every one have its own preferences and reasons. |
Saud replied on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:01 AM PST
I am planning to buy a house on Intalments. you can say as saving and investement. Just need to know if these people are fulfilling there promisses. |
Butt. replied on Saturday, May 1, 2010 02:00 PM PST
Dear Saud,
I was in lahore and went to Tricon. I must say it's a well developed and designed society. Few houses are vacant facing park and tennis court. The enterance of the society is great (a small bridge on canal). If you are looking for residence then it is certainly a great locality to leave. I spend some time inside the model house and it was really amazing. The group appears to be known in lahore and they are taking care of the Tricon. I have tricon adds on Ferozpour road and jail road and even at raiwind road in 2005. Means the group in town for sometime now. I wish you all the good luck.
Regards,
Butt. |
Amer replied on Saturday, May 1, 2010 02:11 PM PST
Dear Saud,
Please see Lake City and you would like it as it is the best society in Lahore so far in the private sector. One side is Lake City and other side is Eden homes, so both groups are very strong and it is on 2000 acres. The price of the villas is also similar to Tricon. Raiwind road will be widened soon and ring road will touch Lake City, so in future this society will be an ideal plac to live.
Anyway take a decision with your full understanding.
Regards |
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| Amar |
ar_abdulmannan@hotmail.... com | | City & Country: - | |
 Friday, April 16, 2010 05:41 PM PST Reply: 
Furnished accomodation in Lahore
Dear brothers,
I live abroad and would like to come to Pakistan for admission of my son in Engineering University.
We would try different options like NUST, UET, GIKI.
My son needs to prepare for entry test in KIPS. For a family to stay in Lahore, (I am not from Lahore) I need to rent a furnished house or flat or portion for about 3 months. Could any visitor of this site help me find such option of accomodation? I am planning to be in Lahore in the 2nd week of June 2010.
Would appreciate a serious and sincere advice and guidance.
Regards,
ashraf replied on Friday, April 16, 2010 05:49 PM PST
please advise your budget? |
Amar replied on Friday, April 16, 2010 06:23 PM PST
Dear Mr. Ashraf,
I have no idea. But please go on and quote. My aim is to meet the goal for which I am ready to compromise. If you wish, you can send me a detailed email as well.
Regards |
ashraf replied on Friday, April 16, 2010 11:07 PM PST
I can give you a 5 bedroooms 5 bath fully furnaished house in DHA ,lahore with pool and acs, generator and 1 servant and 1 guard at 300 lacs a month .this is just like living in a 5 star hotel and payng Rs 10000 a day for 5 bed rooms . |
ashraf replied on Friday, April 16, 2010 11:11 PM PST
Correction Rent will be 3 lacs a month . |
Irfan replied on Saturday, April 17, 2010 09:54 AM PST
@ashraf bhi go and find some International company that can give you this much for luxury lifestyle
I think Amar is looking for average size accomodation with budget range around 50k per month |
info replied on Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:37 PM PST
Amar
I am sure you can find a house(portion) for 30,000 to 50,000 per month in cantt or/and dha. |
tm replied on Saturday, April 17, 2010 01:13 PM PST
I have a portion for you. Please check your email. You can send me an email to maliktsa@yahoo.com |
salim khan replied on Saturday, April 17, 2010 09:50 PM PST
Amar sahib, my suggestion to you is to go to a guest house for a couple of days and search for renatl when you are in Lahore. You can find a furnished single portion (like an apartment) with all the amenities for 40-50 thousand rupees a month. I will also recommend to mention to the rental agent that you are visiting from Karachi. Whatever you say NEVER mention the six letter word A-B-R-O-A-D. If you do that, there will be no shortage of the Asfrafs who will overcharge you way over the market.
@Ashraf. Ashraf sahib, kuch khuda ka khauf karo, the economy is no longer as good overseas as you would imagine. Lets see 300 thousand rent, the most expensive brand new 1 kanal house in DHA rents for 80,000-100,000 lac. That must be some very nice furniture that you are renting for over 200,000 per month. |
Rizwan replied on Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:49 PM PST
Dear Amar,please consider that the location in Lahore and Islamabad for rent should be near to prepration school...
In Lahore, I believe KIPS is in Johar Town or Faisal Town, and It will be best to rent a property nearby so your son maximises the time available...I think you can get a good furnished portion for 25000-45000 depending on size, location and furnishing...If you decide to rent a car,,it will cost you around Rs 30000 for a Cultus (excluding fuel) for a month...(Rough estimate only)
Once you go in Rawalpindi/Islamabad for the test at NUST (there is a new campus in Islamabad too), you can stay at some guestbouses in F-6 (There are a few Near Kulsum Plaza in Blue Area,,,like Paramount Guest house..and they charge you 3000-3500 Max per night if you can negotiate..I arranged for someone here for 2000 or 2500 around two years back...)
I dont know the location of test for GIKI,,,but if test is in Swabi,,then you can probably use the new motorway which takes around 1.5 hours from Islamabad...Plz check that with people in Islamabad once you are there...
I think you can contact Lahore Real Estate for rental suggestions,,,they can refer you easily to a good Person in Johar Town....
Please take care that it has a generator as electricity problem is there, and that you do not pay all the money for three months and be strict on terms and conditions....Its best to have pictures of accomodation before hand and distance from KIPS etc, as well as quote from 3-4 dealers if you want more satisfaction... |
Amar replied on Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:50 PM PST
Dear All who responded to my query and need!
Mr. Ashraf surely mentioned an amount to, most probably, push me away. Now when I am in this situation, I realize that such options are very hard to find in our country if not possible. My choice is to remain near Johar Town area.
Dear Info and Salim khan sahib, your sincere advices are taken and I would approach from this angle as well.
Thank you all and I still await any further advices from friends on this site.
Regards, |
Amar replied on Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:23 PM PST
Dear Rizwan sahib,
The NUST test centre for candidates in Lahore is already declared as Punjub University campus at Wahdat road. The registration for GIKI is not open yet but I believe they would also have such option. This is something very good on part of these universities.
Thank you for your concern and recommendations.
Regards, |
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 Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:04 PM PST Reply: 
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| doctor |
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 Saturday, March 27, 2010 04:06 PM PST Reply: 
transfer procedure -faisal town lahore transfer procedure of house/plot in faisal town
dear readers
could anyone tell em the transfer fee and procedure etc for a house in faisal town please
regards
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| doctor |
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 Friday, March 26, 2010 08:30 PM PST Reply: 
transfer of house/plot in faisal town dear readers
could anyone tell em the transfer fee and procedure etc for a house in faisal town please
regards
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| Khan Baba |
| tony0786@hotmail.com | | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Tuesday, January 19, 2010 09:33 AM PST Reply: 
10 Marla Plot in Lahore
Dear Brothers :
I am looking for 10 Marla Good Location Plot near Faisal Town, Model Town , TownShip , Sector A etc.. if someone have some plot to sell, I will appreciate if you can send me details and we will take it from there.
Thanks
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| Khan |
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 Saturday, January 9, 2010 07:59 PM PST Reply: 
Information Request
Dear CMY & Other friends
I want to buy one home in good loaction of lahore (where schools, parks, mosques & Markets etc. are available). The house size should be minimum 10 Marlas and atleast 3 or 4 bedrooms. Can i get such house in around 6 - 9 million rupees. Plaese provide detailed information.
Thanks
info replied on Saturday, January 9, 2010 08:08 PM PST
Askari 10 properties near Lahore Airport.
DHA Phase 6 - you could build your own. |
Assad replied on Saturday, January 9, 2010 09:08 PM PST
AOA
Dear Khan sahib Model Town Ext or Faisal Town are very good options.
Very Good Location.
Regards
Assad
0346-666-9996
az_lhr@yahoo.com |
flex01 replied on Sunday, January 10, 2010 11:09 AM PST
Pls note that in Askari 10, one can not get the property transferred into his name. House can only be transferred from one Army person ot another Army person. |
Khan replied on Sunday, January 10, 2010 03:56 PM PST
AND if the guy who gives you ownership on so called Power of Attorney dies then the POA becomes void. In the real sense the property is not really yours. |
info replied on Sunday, January 10, 2010 05:40 PM PST
flex01 & Khan,
is that the case with other askari properties(apartments and houses)?
thanks |
@Li replied on Sunday, January 10, 2010 06:35 PM PST
off course its one of the biggest issue in Askari..... |
info replied on Monday, January 11, 2010 10:33 AM PST
@Li
Does that apply to all Cantt properties?
Thanks |
bilal replied on Monday, January 11, 2010 10:36 PM PST
aoa
i live in usa.i have made a beautiful house in valancia.though it is not 10 marla bout i have used most of the space in covered area.it has 3 spacious bedrooms with attached baths.living room and dinning room are very spacious.besutiful modern kitchen.store room.another tv loung upstairs.half washroom in living room.garage for 1 car..so u can say it is 3 bedroom and three and a half washrooms.all modern fittings.the house will be finnished in second week of february.i am going to pakistan then.it's a brand new house.if u r interested mail me.my price is 78 lacs.www.sabasbeauty@yahoo.com |
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| Muhammad Tariq |
| tariq_sattar@hotmail.com | | Phone:92-300-4165092 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Thursday, December 24, 2009 06:10 PM PST Reply: 
1 Canal Corner House for sale in Faisal Town
1 Kanal Corner House on Main Bolevard Faisal Town is available for sale. Ideal location for Banks, Multinational Companies, Hospital and other trades etc..
Serious buyer may contact at these nos.
92-300-4165092, 92-300-9417011
JK replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 12:09 PM PST
Stay asleep and put this addvertisment in 2015 . |
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 Friday, November 6, 2009 10:22 AM PST Reply: 
House for Sale :sh:
Shabbir replied on Friday, November 6, 2009 10:23 AM PST
4.25 Marla Ph. No.03134092173 |
Ahmed replied on Friday, November 6, 2009 10:28 PM PST
I am interested to buy but i have some questions. Is this house in Faisal town in front of Johar town? If yes please tell me that either this is single story or double? can it be 2 separate portion or not? Is this price negociate or not ?
ahmed_aaa1988@yahoo.com
regards,
Ahmed |
Expat replied on Saturday, November 7, 2009 10:41 AM PST
I am also interested. plz aslo send me all detail as requsted by Mr. Ahmed. If possible send detail of house plan and exact locatoion. my conatct # is : fsaliqs@yahoo.com |
Arshad Khokher replied on Saturday, November 7, 2009 02:17 PM PST
Dear Shabbir Sb, I am also interested to get info like
1. Year of construction
2. Single Story / Double Story
3. Final Price
Is it possible to see house? if yes, then I can ask my brother to look at it.
You may contact me at arshadkhokher@yahoo.com |
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| ShahbazCh |
| shahbazch@hotmail.com | | Phone:0321 8403036 | City & Country: Lahore,Pakistan | |
 Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:37 PM PST Reply: 
Commarsal building pico road faisal town 10-marla comml (ground+3)situated on pico road (molana shaokat ali road)near akbar chock FAISAL TOWN.witch is rented out to a BANK.
AK replied on Thursday, October 22, 2009 08:34 PM PST
how much rent? |
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 Saturday, October 17, 2009 09:57 AM PST Reply: 
House Wanted
Hello, i am looking to buy 10 marla or one kanal house in lahore ( near Faisal Town, Town Ship, Link Road, Johor Town surroundings ).. new built or little bit old one will do...if you have one and your price is reasonable, please let me know and I will get in touch with you.
Thanks
MALIK replied on Saturday, October 17, 2009 11:14 PM PST
DEAR KHAN BABA,
I HAVE TWO NEW BUILT HOUSES FOR SALE.(JORA)
IN JOHARTOWN NEAR EXPO LAHORE.
BUT IT IS A BIT CHANGE ACCORDING TO YOUR SPEC.
THE HOUSE IS 5MARLA EACH.
IF YOU ARE INTRESTED OR HAVE A 'CLEINT' PLZ CONTACT.
MOB NO.03214384844 (MALIK) |
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| Faheem |
| faheem_1954@hotmail.com | | Phone:966502821393 | City & Country: Al-Hofuf Saudi Arabia | |
 Thursday, October 1, 2009 01:18 PM PST Reply: 
SALE OF RESIDENTIAL PLOT 
MY PLOT IS FOR SALE IN OPF SCHEME LAHORE.
Salient features of the scheme.
>Five km from Thokar Niaz Baig.
>Located on 220 feet main Raiwind Road.
>OPF scheme is very near to Faisal Town, Johar Town, Wapda Town,Shoukat Khanem Hospital and Expo Center.
>150 feet road from Faisal Town is passing through the center of the scheme towards LDA Avenue.My demand is 50 lacs only.
fmk replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 02:33 PM PST
what is ur demand ?????? |
faheem replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 09:30 PM PST
Its written in the post |
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| Faisal |
| | City & Country: USA | |
 Friday, September 25, 2009 12:11 AM PST Reply: 
Real Estate Inventory Estimate in Lahore
Hi Mr Naveed/CMY,
In any real estate market, the inventory of houses/plots determines the direction of market as it tells if the market is over/under supplied. I would like to hear your opinion about how the supply and demand look like in Lahore RE market. Is there a way that you can give an estimate (for now) about the number of housing schemes and total number of 5, 10, 20, 40 marla plots available? I couldn't find a source on the internet so appreciate if you can guide me here. Is it possible to get an inventory of low price schemes (1marla = upto 1.5 lacs), average price schemes (1marla = upto 3 lacs) and high price schemes (1 marla = 3.5 lacs and above)? Is there a way to form a good estimate?
In my opinion, Lahore RE market looks oversupplied. For example, DHA phase 6 onwards itself has more than 50,000 files (correct me if I am wrong here). Then I live in US and every other friend of mine has a Bahria/DHA file or plot in Lahore or Islamabad. All of them are investors. Then I look at the local organic demand and I hardly see any young people settling their families in new houses. Most of the young people are living with their parents even with 2-3 kids as they don't have enough capital to make a house and are not willing to pay rents. Even some of my really wealthy friends just prefer to make an extra portion on top of their parents house as their seperate homes. The rent to home price ratio is extremely small (75 lacs 10 marla DHA house rents for 30-35K Rs max, ~5% return minus maintenance costs). Appreciate any feedback from other folks here as well.
Naveed Yaseen replied on Friday, September 25, 2009 09:37 AM PST
Dear Faisal I don't have numbers of demand and supply but would try to explain my views.
If we sort property market in three segments...
1) settled unplanned slums
2) settled planned areas
3) new planned developments
...then following patterns may be seen
• settled unplanned slums and settled planned areas are reasonably investor-free markets, thus are near natural demand-supply balance at prevalent prices in these segments.
• properties in new planned developments are influenced by investors/speculators/manipulators, thus their prices and price movements have not been natural.
• properties in settled planned areas are being traded at significantly higher price compared to either unplanned slums or new planned developments.
• properties in new planned developments are being traded at prices close to properties in unplanned slums. In many slums of Lahore it is difficult to find properties with land value below Rs 1.5 lakh per marla (or Rs 30 lakh per kanal).
For reasons described above I believe that new planned developments are currently priced not far above their inherent value. Rather, in my opinion, below inherent value.
On rents being too low compared to property prices, I think this is not due to speculative content. Rental returns have been below 5% for decades in settled slums and planned areas, probably due to our culture of preferring ownership over rent and culture of anticipating primary return from price appreciation rather than rent. |
Aamir replied on Friday, September 25, 2009 09:49 PM PST
1. Very recently, a survey has been conducted by a Lahore-based social-economic consultancy firm. It reveals an extra-ordinary demand for house on rent and ownership basis. The population of Lahore living in rented houses has increased from seven per cent to more than 22 per cent, putting a accumulated annual growth rate (CAGR) of 1.15 per cent. Currently the city has an estimated annual rental market size of about Rs14 billion. Moreover, there is a perpetual 1.15 per cent growth in demand for houses on rent.
2. The survey covers four income brackets. In the lowest income category, there is acute demand of 28,000 houses whereas the lower-middle class shows a demand for above 9,000 units. Similarly, upper middle and upper class also exhibited enormous demand. According to the survey, the aggregate demand in Lahore areas for all income brackets stands at 66,100 units. This huge figure opens a market opportunity of Rs50 billion in Lahore areas.
3. By virtue of gap between demand and supply the price of houses, especially in planned areas, exceeds the actual value of a unit.
4. It is therefore, the business of selling constructed houses by builders and investors would remain attractive for foreseeable future of at least next one decade. Whereas, supply of plots would remain more than the actual demand and hence would see only a natural growth in prices of developed and raw plots.
5. Speculation may not work as much as it did in the past because small investors stand more educated by the lesson learnt through property crash of 2005 and availability of more information through web sites of real estate such as the one you are visiting. |
Faisal replied on Saturday, September 26, 2009 09:22 AM PST
Thanks Naveed for your response some examples of these settled planned areas and new planned areas? You can keep the information generic if you don't want to reveal. I trust your judgement but would be interested to know how you reached that opinion (settled planned being overpriced and new planned being neutral). How do you form what would be a "fair" price for any plot/property?
Thanks Aamir for your response. I am intrigued by the study you cited and would like to get more details. Could you please post a link or reference to the study? I agree that there is demand for rentals but doesn't this great demand indciate that people cannot afford to buy houses so they are renting? With our culture of ownership, definitely people prefer having a house. But the reason there is such an increase in rental occupancy (7% to 22% as you stated), indicates that people are out looking for housing but feel they cannot afford to buy and hence settle for renting?
Thanks for everyone's time. |
Naveed Yaseen replied on Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:32 AM PST
> some examples of these settled planned areas and new planned areas? You can keep the information
> generic if you don't want to reveal.
Yes I meant the categories to be generic, but some specific examples of settled planned areas in Lahore may be DHA 1-4, Model Town, Gulberg, EME, Johar Town, Faisal Town, Allama Iqbal Town etc.
The even longer list of new planned areas may be inferred by two characteristics, first that whether it is developed by competent authority or developer, and second that it is not well settled yet (say less than 25% occupancy yet).
> how you reached that opinion (settled planned being overpriced and new planned being neutral)
I didn't mean either one overpriced or neutral. Rather I meant that settled planned are probably close to natural balance due to investors absence, and new planned have been erratic/volatile in both directons due to investors/speculators/manipulators.
And about settled planned being traded at significantly higer prices than new planned, this can be observed in market prices of both, where former is usually folds more than later.
> How do you form what would be a "fair" price for any plot/property?
There may be different routes to estimating inherent value, sorted by reliability in my opinion (most to least)
- by inherent business return (rent minus expenses)
- by utility value to consumer
- by cost and difficulty/ease of developing comparable
- by resale value of torn parts
- by comparables in past with inflation adjustment
- by comparables in neighborhood (this method is least reliable but unfortunately most frequently used)
(note: more or less similar routes may be used for estimating inherent value of stocks) |
Aamir replied on Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:44 PM PST
"this great demand indicate that people cannot afford to buy houses so they are renting?"
Not necessarily because of the following:-
1. Those who (Businessman) could afford to buy a house still prefer sometime to live in rented houses and let the capital in hand utilize for circulation.
2. Multinational and local companies in private sector facilitate their employees to live in rented houses.
3. Movement of people from smaller cities to metropolitan on temporary or permanent basis increasing the demand of rental houses.
The bottom line is whether rented or on ownership, there is a huge demand of houses in Lahore. This demand is attributed to many factors, of courses, unaffordability being the one but not the sole reason of this phenomenal rise. |
Tahir replied on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 01:33 AM PST
Thanks both of you for your kind and insightful opinions. Greatly appreciated. |
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| Muhammad Tariq |
| tariq_sattar@hotmail.com | | Phone:0300-4165092 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Saturday, September 12, 2009 05:12 PM PST Reply: 
1 Kanal Semi Commercial House for Sale at Faisal Town
1 Kanal Semi Commercial House is available for sale at Faisal Town. Interested and Serious Buyer may contact on these Nos.: 0300-4165092, 0300-9417011
Allah Rakha replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 01:42 AM PST
I offer 7 crore to reserve this property. What will be the mode of payment. |
Jameel replied on Sunday, September 13, 2009 02:00 AM PST
you are not going to find the buyer from this forum give the details of house with exact location and let the readers discuss the worth of property it may help you to get idea to make realistic demand. |
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| Muhammad Tariq |
| tariq_sattar@hotmail.com | | Phone:0300-4165092 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Monday, September 7, 2009 04:32 PM PST Reply: 
1 Kanal Semi Commercial House for Sale
1 Kanal Semi Commercial House is available for sale at Faisal Town. Interested and Serious Buyer may contact on these Nos.: 0300-4165092, 0300-9417011
Khan. replied on Monday, September 7, 2009 04:44 PM PST
Please contact any Minister of Pakistan, they could easly buy. We average Pakistan loving ppl can't afford 6 CROREs. Contact WAPDA Minister, who just bought 4.0 Million pounds flat in London :) |
khurram replied on Monday, September 7, 2009 05:33 PM PST
My offer is 6.5 million rupees |
Abdullah replied on Monday, September 7, 2009 07:08 PM PST
In this money i.e. about (Ł600000), you can buy a mansion in UK.
I just wonder why property prices are so high in Pakistan that even with UK standards, its expensive.
Come on Pakistan |
Abid replied on Monday, September 7, 2009 07:19 PM PST
agree with Abdullah;
but the problem with Pakistan is that market has always been controlled by some people, its not like open property market, bunch of people manipulated the market in 2004 and took the prices to sky-high and many investors got stuck along with some innocent people,
now these people are trying to sell off these properties and there is hardly anyone in the market who could afford to pay this much,
whereas the low-cost properties are booming at the moment, even CMY are now dealing in Bahria Town and other low cost societies which have realistic prices,
land-cost has to come down so people could kick start the market again, we are seeing many people trying to sell their high-cost properties for the last many months and hardly there are buyers out there who could afford it |
no comparison replied on Monday, September 7, 2009 08:30 PM PST
Dear Honorable readers especially MR. Abdullah and Mr. Abid,
Without going into the merits and demerits of the demand that is asked by this person may be he would asking for too much ,
I just want to ask u one question "that how much percentage of pakistanis are living overseas out of total 17 miillion population of this country that has very scarce resources"?
these people have to live here and so they are also supposed to buy properties here but overseas as they cant go there, they dont have any british , american and canadian passports with them.so cheap properties in the west are of no avsil for them
i want to tell another thing that i u go to suburban areas of punjb the prices are that much high that one simply shocked, i hail from sialkot where in villages that are 5-6 kilometers away from GT ROAD or any other major highway land is selling @ 1.5 lacs to 2 lacs per marla and the situation in the mullahs of sialkot is even worse that rate there is 6-8 lacs per marla, which no proper sewerage arrangements exists, road are narrow and poor quality and u would find heaps of rubbish at times in the front of the house or if u r lucky enough hen on the corner of the street. |
Wow_ replied on Monday, September 7, 2009 09:05 PM PST
My offer is 12 crores. 6 cror for above house and 6 cror for another, if you have one.
please contact me
DACO@Lotera_of_pakistan.com |
FM replied on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 07:52 AM PST
8.5 Millions my offer, if you accept give your agreement and I will provide you my contact. |
visitor replied on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 03:55 PM PST
can any one explain the meanings and prons and cons of semi commercial area. thanx. |
ZB replied on Tuesday, September 8, 2009 08:49 PM PST
There is no category name Sami commercial. Only Tariq can explain ? This house is maximum worth 15 million only. |
khan bahi replied on Wednesday, September 9, 2009 11:23 PM PST
I can not understand the country where NO electric , NO gas, NO clean water, NO food ,NO law and order, why houses are so expensive , why !!!!!!!!!!!!!! pl someone can answer this question |
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 Friday, September 4, 2009 05:43 PM PST Reply: 
1 Kanal Brand New House for sale in DHA PHASE 5
WELL ITS 1 KANAL HOUSE WITH TOTAL 4900 SQFT COVERED AREA.
THERE ARE 5 BEDROOMS, 2 AT GROUND FLOOR AND 3 UPSTAIRS
2 HUGE TV LOUNGES AND 1 DRAWING AND DINING ROOM.
3 IMPORTED ARAN KITCHENS INCLUDING SERVANT KITCHEN WITH ALL
ACCESSORIES LIKE OVEN, MICRO AND FREDGE.
2 STORES AND 1 SERVANT QURATER
4 CARS PORCH.
1 POWDER ROOM AND BIG LOBBIES AT THE ENTRANCE, STAIRHALL AND ON THE
JUNCTION OF TV LOUNGES AND BEDROOMS.
5 ATTACHED WASHROOMS WITH DESIGNER WORLD ITALIAN TILES, GERMAN GROHE
AND SPANISH ROCCA FITTING AND FIXTURES.
TOTAL SOLID BURMA TEAK WOOD DOORS.
2X2 & 4X4 CHINA VERONA (ROYAL BEIGE) MARBLE FLOORING WITH MOSIAC BORDERS AND MOTIFS
BEAUITFUL WORK ON GLASS DOORS.
ELEGANT CEILING IN THE WHOLE HOUSE.
3 FIREPLACES.
9 SAMSUNG 1.5 TONS AIR CONDITIONERS.
PAKISTAN CABLE WIRING IN THE WHOLE HOUSE WITH PROVISION OF UPS AND
GENERATOR INSTALLTION.
BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING ON EXTERIOR WALLS BY RASHID KHAN.
INTENDED BUYERS ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT ME THROUGH ABOVE MENTIONED EMAIL.
Anjum replied on Friday, September 4, 2009 06:02 PM PST
Akram Sb
Are you able to post some pictures of the house? Also, are you able to advice the plot number? A plot Phase 5 E is around 80 lacs and if that is correct your asking price is based on around Rupees 4000 per SQFT, which appears too much.
Anjum |
Abid replied on Friday, September 4, 2009 06:57 PM PST
I think most deluded people are stuck on this word "crore", and this is the only word which comes out of their mouth.
Somone was asking 6 crore for a 10 marla house in Faisal Town
and now this person is asking well above the market price.
wht on earth is happening in Pakistan? |
AS replied on Friday, September 4, 2009 07:39 PM PST
It is not more than 150 lacs.......why not to purchase a plot around 50 lacs in Phase 6 (more advanced development) and build costing around 60-65 lacs of a house without basement. |
Bhola replied on Friday, September 4, 2009 08:13 PM PST
Muhammad Akram sb, seeing Mr Abid n AS comments, kuch thoo bolo |
Adeel replied on Friday, September 4, 2009 08:34 PM PST
Akram Sb, where ares your contact details?
Mr Bhola, if you do not have money to buy house, then better keep quite.
Mr AS you are welcome to go ahead with your scheme of phase 6 and save money.
Mr Abid kindly "reveal" the market price of this house for our benefit please.
Regards |
FM replied on Friday, September 4, 2009 08:51 PM PST
my price is 150 lacs if you agree post your agreement and I will provide you my contact.
Kind Regards |
khan bahi replied on Friday, September 4, 2009 11:37 PM PST
I can not understand the country where NO electric , NO gas, NO clean water, NO food ,NO law and order, why houses are so expensive , why !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Muhammad Akram replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:11 AM PST
Dear Honorable Readers,
I would like to answer the above mentioned questions and comments one by one:
As Abid Sahib talked about the Word 'Crore' It seems that HE TRIED VERY HARD TO MAKE FEW CRORES IN LIFE BUT LUCK IS NOT SO KIND ON HIM AND THE SITUATION NOW IS THAT HE CANT EVEN DARE TO LISTEN THIS WORD.
As for Mr AS and FM point of view is concerned I CHALLENGE U HAVE A 1 KANAL HOUSE IN DHA PHASE 5 IN RS 150 LACS.1 KANAL HOUSE IN DHA PHASE 5 ARE SELLING FROM RS 175 LACS TO 275 LACS DEPENDING UPON THE LOCATION AND QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION.
CONSTRUCTING 1 KANAL HOUSE NOWADYS IN 60-65 LACS IS IMPOSSIBLE RATHER DREAM.THE PEOPLE WHO BELEIVE IN IT ARE LIVING IN A FOOLS PARDISE.I COULD ONLY PRAY FOR THEM .AN AVERAGE HOUSE NOWADYS COST U 80-85 LACS RUPEES. 1 GOOD ONE COST U 100 LACS AND EXCELLENT HOUSE COST U ABOUT 125-130 LACS.
AS for as Mr anjum point of PRICE OF 1 KANAL PLOT IS CONCERNED MY DEAR IN E BLOCK OF PHASE 5 U CANT EVEN HAVE 1 KANAL PLOT IN 80 LACS EVEN ON THE BOUNDARY.THE PLOT ON WHICH THIS HOUSE IS CONSTRUCTED IS OF 100 LACS WORTH EVEN TODAY IN THIS BAD MARKET SITUATION.
About the demand of this which in my brothers opinion is too high i can justify it :
I WANT TO ASK U THAT HOW MANY HOUSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR SALE ARE USING BURMA TEAK WOOD , THE CURRENT RATE OF WHICH IS RS 5200 SQ FEET AS COMPARED TO THE RATE OF 1800 SQFT ASH WOOD THAT THE MOST BUILDERS ARE USING
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING DESIGNER WORLD DHA PHASE 3 ITILAIN TILES IN THE WASHROOMS,PEOPLE WHO ARE IN LAHORE OR WOULD BE COMING TO LAHORE SHOULD VISIT THIS PLACE THEN IT WOULD ANSWER MANY OF UR QUESTIONS. ON AVERAGE WASHROOM TILES COST ME 4000 PER METER.
IN THE LAST BUT NOT LEAST I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS MY GENUINE DEMAND AND U KNOW THAT IT IS ALWAYS LIT BIT NEGOITABLE.
ANOTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE HERE IS THAT IF SOME IS INVESTING 240-250 LACS RUPEES OBVOISLY HE IS DOING IT FOR EARNING SOMETHING.PEOLE WHO STARTS CALCULATING THE PLOT PRICE THEN COVERED AREA AND ROUGHLY ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST RATES ARE REQUESTED TO ANSWER ONLY ONE QUESTION"WHATS THE BENEFIT OF BUILDER IN INVESTING THAT MUCH OF MONEY ON WHICH HE CAN HAVE 25 LACS ANNUALLY BY INVESTING IN NATIONAL SAVING SCHEMES?
I ALSO WANT TO BEG MY BROTHETRS WHO ARE COMING ONLY HERE ON THIS FORUM FOR MAKING CONTROVERSIES STOP DOING IT BECAUSE IN THIS WAY PRICES OF HOUSES WOULD NOT DROP. |
Muhammad Akram. replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:22 AM PST
I MISSED ONE POINT REGARDING THE COMMENTS OF MR AS.I WANT TO ASK U 1SIMPLE QUESTION
"YOU TALKED ABT PHASE 6 PLOT OF 50 LACS AND SO CALLED CONSTRUCTION COST OF 60-65 LACS, IF UR FORMULA IS TRUE THEN MY DEAR PLEASE TELL ME THAT WHY IN DEFENCE RAYA PHASE 6 1 KANAL HOUSES ARE SELLING FOR 265 LACS
SIMILARLY IN DHA HOMES PHASE 5 10 MARLA HOUSE IS SELLING FOR 110 LACS ACCORDING TO UR FORUMLA IT SHOULD BE OF 40 LACS PLOT + 30 LACS CONSTRUCTION?
THINGS DONT WORK THIS WAY MY DEAR U PEOPLE HAVE NO RIGHT OF MAKING POINTLESS OBJECTIONS THAT TOO WITHOUT EVEN SEEING THE HOUSE |
ASK replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:24 AM PST
Akram Sb.,
Wonderful answer. Talked like a true businessman. Most people in our country cannot think professionaly. I ask all the people above one question. How much time would it take to make such a house at least 10-12 months right ? If you invested something like 1.5 to 2 crore rupees and then spent almost a year of your time making that house and that is all you do in your life would you not want any profit ??? As Mr. Akram said he would be making 25 lacs annually if he just put this money in National Savings, why would he do such a tough job as building a house and then give it away without any profit ?
Houses in Phase V are selling for more than 2 crores. Anyone who thinks they can buy a plot in 50 lac and then make a house in another 60-65 lac congratulations you have found a great business. You will be making 70-80 lacs profit on every house. Come on do it. |
Jameel replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 01:43 AM PST
Muhammad Akram Sahib what ever your answer but I feel sorry to say that you cant sell this house even in 160 Lac, and if you keep it 3 years with you, you will sell even cheaper than 190 K dollar.
My friend bought a 10 merla 4 bed brand new house in DHA 4 in 87 Lac, Phase 4 is far better located than DHA 5. If such a house will reach 1.6 Cror only then Kanal house can be 2.8, A simple Formula of conversion of 10 merla to Kanal is 10 M X 1.6 or Max 1.7 |
rana replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 03:18 AM PST
Jameel et el, who are you to say he can not sell this house for the price he is seeking. It is sort of like walking into a BMW dealership and arguing that the car is not worth the price because other German cars cost half as much.
Mr. Akram has given a reasonable explanation as to his demand and frankly the rest is between him and his buyer. I wish him well. I commend him for taking the time to explain the basis of his price against an onslaught of negative comments. As for rest of you folks you come across sounding small minded. |
A.Khan replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 10:19 AM PST
Dear friends,
why this long useless discussion,one is free to put his demand,but the only concern on this forum is that we have our friends they are overseas and they have not right idea of prices back home,one can explain that the everage price of 1kanal house is 140 lac to 180 lac,now one has gold plated house or "BMW" in houses he can ask what ever he likes and if he gets in todays dull mkt a dum who is willing to pay that much one should not have any objection.
Try to be fare. |
Asif replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 10:26 AM PST
Good answer by Mr Akram. BTW I'm also into construction business and a regular visitor of this site since many years. I never put my property here for sale as Ive noticed that unfortunately nearly all of the ads put on this site by owners are ruined by non-serious people. I request CMY to do something about this matter, like making some kind of database of properties in which one can put ad but one cant write comments on it. Only serious buyers may be able to contact through email/phone etc. |
Shahzad replied on Saturday, September 5, 2009 11:35 AM PST
Obviously if one cannot afford to buy he will try to spoil it to prove he is Paki. Thats pure Paki thinking.
ANGOOR KHATTE HAIN |
Tahir replied on Sunday, September 6, 2009 03:03 AM PST
Jameel Sahab Assalam-o-Alaikum
I am intrested in buying a brand new 10 marla 4 bedroom house in Phase 4 for around 87 lakhs. I live abroad and would appreciate if you can guide me to whom to contact for this. I will be very thankful and highy obliged for a serious and honest information.
Allah Hafiz |
Asghar replied on Sunday, December 27, 2009 05:34 AM PST
Thanks for the detailed answers to many of the questions I had in my mind. |
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| Muhammad Tariq |
| tariq_sattar@hotmail.com | | Phone:0300-4165092 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Thursday, August 27, 2009 02:15 PM PST Reply: 
1 Kanal Semi Commercial House for Sale in Faisal Town
1 Kanal Semi Commercial House for sale. It is on main bolevard cornor House. Ideal for Banks, Hotel, Petrol station and any kind of businesses.
Interested and seriouse buyer may contact on these Nos.
0300-4165092, 0300-9417011
ABD replied on Thursday, August 27, 2009 06:40 PM PST
Dear Tariq,
what you mean by Sami commercial If it is residential at present and can be converted in to commercial How much it will cost ?
fee extra to be paid to get commercialized ? |
Muhammad Tariq replied on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:11 AM PST
Mr. ABD you may ask the commercialistion cost from LDA?
thanks |
Jameel replied on Friday, August 28, 2009 03:07 PM PST
6 Cror and still semi Commercial??. As regards commercialization cost LDA has stopped giving commercialization permit in Faisal Town. |
Muhammad Tariq replied on Friday, August 28, 2009 03:14 PM PST
Mr. Jameel this is my demand and any good offer can make a good deal. So plz give me good offer. It is a life time opportunity and everybody know it. |
Sympathic replied on Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:39 AM PST
Jamil nay laina ho ga to offer day ga na. Isay to aadat hay "to coment on each adv for selling". In other words, pork his nose every where. |
jamela bibi replied on Saturday, August 29, 2009 03:52 PM PST
sonya chandi say bena ghar |
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| uptodown |
| UPTODOWN@yahoo.com | | Phone:0092 | City & Country: Riyadh | |
 Wednesday, August 12, 2009 02:18 AM PST Reply: 
Lake City OR Sukh Shayn
Dear All.
Any Body Can Guide me, Which Scheme is better “ Lake City or Sukh Chayn”. And also Tell me, Which Phase I have to Chose for 10-Marla; and Let me know the Price. Thanks…uptodown
Jameel replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 03:20 AM PST
Now a days Much cheaper Villas are available much Close to City, then why you want more expensive and 10 KM from outer Boundary of Population, I mean you have to pass about 10 KM road where almost no population on your left or right sides then you reach Lake city and Sukh Chayn, Some times try to reach there at night and spend 2 hours. |
Interested replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 08:36 AM PST
Hi Jameel
Which cheaper villa you are talking? Give some details pl. I am interested. Regards |
PROGRESS replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:02 AM PST
Hi, First you decide which area you like more to live. As these two societies are in different divisions of Lahore. One is 14 KM from tokhar on Riwind road and other is on Canal Raod. If you choose the area then you can get better comparison between societies in that particular area. |
UPTODOWN replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 AM PST
Dear Jameel, Kindly Tell me Detail About “cheaper Villas”. So everybody will get benefit from your Kind Information. And Dear Mr. Progress. I ask about the Quality of Work there & what will be the Value in Future. I Know, there are lot of other Societies on that area. But I thing “Lake City & Sukh Chayn” having Good Image. Dear, No body want to Go Out of the City Of Lahore. But Can to able to get 10-Marla Plot 18-25 Lac, this type of Societies. If there is Let me Know,I will Look for them. Actually I am Willing to get 10-Marla in DHA sides,and you know the price for Possession Area there 30-45 Lac.So if you Know Any Good Scheme in this Area also with 18-25 Lac then let me know also. I have Plane to Build a House after 3-4 Years. Your Experience will give information all of the Reader. Regards. UPTODOWN. |
Adeel replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 03:10 PM PST
I suggest you to have a look at Fazaia as well before making a decison. The scheme is heard to be giving possession early next year and should match your budget. |
SL replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 04:09 PM PST
Try State Life Ph1 |
UPTODOWN replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 06:32 PM PST
Dear Mr.Adeel,Fazaia Scheme is Good;Have you Notice the Construction Material there. Quality of style also Not Very Good. Please tell me about Good Quality Constriction Scheme. And Dear Mr.SL, State Life 1.I know also this Scheme,State Life 1. Will take more 8-10 Years for population. State Life is very Papuler.Can You Tell me How many Houses are Build there and what is the Quality of Constriction there. Any way Thanks for All who is giving me Response. I am Still Waiting More Options. Regards. UPTODOWN. |
PROGRESS replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 07:00 PM PST
Dear UPTODOWN, my position is just like you. I'm also hunting a plot now a days with same budget. But always lack of funds if I goes with the choice. Even I tried to get some time to pay the balance but parties did not agreed. I'm talking about DHA.
Now Try if you can get Suckh Chayn. I think its a good society with 24 hours transport to main city from Multan Road. Quality style Scheme. You can check Bahria also. To get more information please contact with LRE person who is dealing these areas. GOOD LUCK. |
AM replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:24 PM PST
Assalam-u-Alaikum wr wb:
Note: I am not promoting any socieity.
I live in Sukh Chayn about a year. This socieity is about 11 KM from Thokar Fly over.
Society is smaller as compared to Bahria and Lake City but development infrastructure is very solid.
Under ground wires, Sui gas availability, Internet and Cable are available as well.
Security is very good. Very clean and beautiful environment.
More than 20 families living currently. I see at least hundreds of houses in contruction and families occupying these houses when they are finished.
If you are worried about distance, on average it takes about 10-12 mins to get to thokar fly over sometimes less time. If you want to go to main city lahore, you can take Motor way, bund road, Amer Road and you should be there in Wasan Pura, Taj Pura , Station in total of 35-40 mins and when there is less traffic, even less time.
Overall, it is very good and calm society and many people are moving here. Hopefully within a year, more than 100 families are expected to live in Sukh chayn or even more.( Allah has absolute Knowledge).
10 Marla Plot is 25-26 lakhs if you go on installments. But if you find plot from market, maybe you could get it 20-23 lakhs.
20 Marla Plot is about 46 Lakhs. House for 10 marla is 70Lack. |
Abid replied on Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:01 AM PST
no doubt sukh-chain is a gud society,
i personally think LakeCity is better because of the following:
* Ring Rd. will be touching it
* Comsats University if no far
* Society is being maintained very well
* 600 villas are being delivered this year
there are other societies nearby which are low cost but there is either no or poor development has been observer so there is no point going that way,
at the end of the day decision is yours, |
UPTODOWN replied on Thursday, August 13, 2009 01:50 AM PST
Dear All, Specially AM.. I am very Thankful to all of you to Guide me. Today Mr.CMY Post the PIC for all the Societies and I can Compare very Easily. So I Watch all the Pic. I found Lake City & Sukh Shayn has Better Quality of Constriction. I agree with Mr.AM. Now Kindly Let me know one Thing More. If An Body Buy a Plot there , Is there any Registry System from Government OR Just a File System or any other system. Thanks for all. Regards. UPTODOWN. |
Jameel replied on Thursday, August 13, 2009 02:20 AM PST
Yes Coming to Villas in Lahore in this budget, like 65 to 75 10 Merla House Option are
In DHA arae
DHA phase 2 and 1 Old Houses
In Air Port rea
Eden Avenue Ext and askairi
On Canal Side
Johar Town
Revenue Faisal Town
On Thokar
Canal View and Judicial etc |
waheed replied on Thursday, August 13, 2009 07:42 AM PST
simple
sukh chayan is better .u need to go and see for yrself . |
Faird-UAE replied on Thursday, August 13, 2009 03:25 PM PST
See,once has to keep in mind , that generally , lower the price, the society would not be that much developed in terms of people living there and location would be far.
IF any one is adament that distance is not an issue, that person is living in a fools paradise. Eventually , with other societies being developed, distance and time required to commute will increase. In my view, eventually after 10 -15 years, this part of lahore from thokar onwards, both on raiwind and multan road would be a separate area and people will do all the things (schools, shopping etc here).
However, any new area needs time to be populated. Even societies like EME started in early 90's,there are 60% houses made and 40% still are empty plots. As a rule of thumb, a society becomes a good place for living after 10 years of its possession. So these areas of Lake city, Sukh Chan have their draw backs of distance and safety in terms of less populated, but then the price is accordingly. But , both have good development infrastructure. |
Intikhab replied on Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:49 PM PST
Mr. AM Sahib, i wanted to thank you for posting your experience living in Sukh Chayn. It has been informative. I am thinking about constructing on my 10M house there after i return from KSA. Maybe now is the time to start if there are already so many houses under construction.
Being that far, do you feel isolated away from the bustle of the city? Do folks living there interact. Is there a club or an association formed to bring the families living togeher? |
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| CMY |
| LRE786@gmail.Com | | Phone:03224009967 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Saturday, August 8, 2009 04:01 PM PST Reply: 
LahoreEstate.Org is now online
All friends are informed I have put together a web page where I will keep updating all latest Lahore Real Estate related info in place. Current software on www. LahoreRealEstate.Com was not helping me to get content organized in proper way.
Visit www.LahoreEstate.Org
A lot of new stuff is still waiting for upload but I just could not wait to show you my new master piece
I hope and wish you freind like this new web site because the functions and look I want to give to main page for major update will take a long time for software developers.
No need to register yet. I am trying to find more moderators for this new web page to help with controling spam posts. If you are interseted to help in deleting garbage posts if posted by some sick people please do send an email to Lahorerealestate@gmail.com
Ch Mujahid Yasin
0322-4009967
SHANI-JEDDAH replied on Saturday, August 8, 2009 04:15 PM PST
Fantastic Work. Weldon Bro... |
Habib replied on Saturday, August 8, 2009 04:21 PM PST
CMY one request is pls make new and old maps alphabetic. Old maps are also very helpful as their sizes were small and easyly dowloadable, New maps have good resolution but take too much time. 2nd thing is when we go for maps there is no need of Thumb nails and this make s Page content very big and difficult to download. Only links for names with size in Kb are enough.
Pls also supplement if Possible maps these old societies
Faisal town
Model Town Ext
Askari 9 and 10
Eden avenue plus extension
eden Value Homes
Eden Gardens
Elite Town and ext
IEP ext
Naz Town
Tariq Gardens [The existing Map is not enough]
Canal View.
Taj bagh
Allama iqbal Town
Canal Gardens
Nasheman 1 and 2
Punjab Govt 1 and phase 2 near College Road |
Habib replied on Saturday, August 8, 2009 04:25 PM PST
Please add KEMC on defence road in that list
Thanks |
Safwan Khan. replied on Saturday, August 8, 2009 06:12 PM PST
Good work. Altho I am not from Lahore but I religiously visit the web site for RE information. It has helped me alot. I am in US and if time difference helps, please add me as moderator. My email address is safwankhan@yahoo.com
Thanks and best regards. |
Hamid, Toronto replied on Saturday, August 8, 2009 08:36 PM PST
Amazing work. Really like new webesite. Well done bro! |
Hamid, Toronto replied on Saturday, August 8, 2009 08:37 PM PST
You can add me in moderator list. sheikh1965@gmail.com |
Ahmed replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 12:07 AM PST
Very nice web site MAY GOD BLESS YOU AMEEN......... |
Usman-T.O replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 03:12 AM PST
Please add:
Tele-Com Cooperative Housing Society Lahore.This is beside KEMC Society on Defence Road.
Thanks & Regards |
CHACHA replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 05:26 AM PST
Dear Hamid and sawfan we have added you in the list of Chief Martial law administrators . Congratulations |
Advisor replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 06:19 AM PST
Chaha,
Kuch thaay sharim kurr. Kuch appani umaar kaa khaaal kurr. Its not funny at all. Your character is showing from your actions. You are taking benefit from this website and in return you are making fun who want to help CMY. Shame on you. |
SHANI-JEDDAH replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 10:04 AM PST
Dear Sir,
Please add me as your administrator. sweet_shani007@hotmail.com |
SHANI-JEDDAH replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 10:06 AM PST
Sorry, as moderator. Regards |
Your well wisher replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 11:08 AM PST
cha cha
Sharm mugar tum ko aati nahi every time same kind wording
Its enough for you If you are a man think about this. |
PROGRESS replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 01:37 PM PST
CMY Sahib, We are missing our national flag on your new web site |
Just curious! replied on Sunday, August 9, 2009 03:48 PM PST
CMY great job. On equestion, dont you think there must be some prequalifications for becoming a moderator.Should not be like anyone wakes up and says ok make me the moderator, What do say! |
CMY replied on Monday, August 10, 2009 11:56 AM PST
Progress I am sorry I forgot the most important part of our web site. Pakistan flag is now added to LahoreEstate.Org |
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 Monday, July 27, 2009 02:42 AM PST Reply: 
DHA phase 7 is now the best developed phase in entire DHA Lahore."
dear mr cmy
I refer to your statement on the 25 july in post no. 43990 which states.
"It is FACT now DHA Lahore phase 7 is now looking a lot more beutifull than DHA Lahore phase 6. DHA phase 7 is now the best developed phase in entire DHA Lahore."
I think you ought to be more specific and state your reasons for making such a bold statement because it has been a common perception for quite a long time that phase 7 is going to be the worst phases of entire dha Lahore may be because of its location. Hence the prices reflect that perception. I think you need to back up your statement with detailed analysis and with some facts and figuers. Your hard work and help to buyers and sellers is alway appreciated.
CMY replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 11:43 AM PST
I said DHA Lahore phase 7 is now BEST DEVELOPED phase in entire DHA Lahore. I didn't say its best located or most populated and best place to live etc. I just said the blocks that are ON GROUND now look far batter than DHA 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and 8.
Roads are min 50 feet. Many large roads of 70 feet 100 feet and 150 feet. Storm drain on each large road. Other than DHA 6 no phase has that. All utilities under ground( Only DHA 5 6 and 8 have utilities under ground. DHA 7 has best light poles design and most developed blocks now have poles installed in them. DHA 6 only have 10 % light poles installed. |
Shahzad replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 11:55 AM PST
I Would never understand how these predictions go ... When Phase 6 was going to be given posession it was all said its best to invest here etc etc ... even park view file created a hype on this site.. balloting going to be done .. I Agree... it depends on DHA about balloting and phase 6,7 are good.... BUT WHY DONT THE PRICES REFLECT THE PREDICTION ???
Phase 7 if is the the best developed then prices should rise... but its continously GOING DOWN .. Property overall is decreasing thats a fact but if there is development going on then the prices are ought to go up ... there is a continous fall of prices then whats the point ??? |
fourvoyagers replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 12:09 PM PST
Assalam-O-Aalikum,
Just until recently, Phase 7 was being frowned upon as a Bastard Child, but now it seems to have been "Baptized & Adopted" by most of the uptown dealers to make some quick bucks out of the sluggish market. |
CMY replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 01:14 PM PST
Shehzad sahib how many deals you did in DHA 6 with me to benefit me? Did you buy a Parkview file from me or bought my file? NONE
I don't care when a ballot is held. I am just buying and selling these file for my clients.Ballot could help prices and ballot could hurt the price deeply by having access files. Have you or any other visitor here had courage to ask DHA 8 ballot was announced in Dec 2006 and why its not held yet? 99 % people don't ask these questions to developers.
If one don't understand DHA 7 is a good buy at 26 30 or 35 lacs including development charges for on ground existing plots that could have possession this year than he is not serious to do any property investment wisly.
I thaught my duty here was to inform visitor current best opertunity exist in this phase or that scheme. I dont need to promote or adopt any thing. Why I am not promoting DHA Parkview at 23.25 lacs? Because now I am not sure when its ballot will be held and where the land will fall. Punjab Govt was not asking for 40 billions Rs for DHA 8 land from DHA before few months. Sitaions change with time. We have to change too and adjest our investments too.
fourvoyagers you fail to say at the time DHA 7 Y and Z was frowned upon as Bastered child it had no development. Now its blocks R S T U Q are 90% complete. I will still say DHA 7 Y Z blocks are the worst loacation and DHA 9-10 is far better than these two blocks.
From now on I will keep my thought to my self only and and will only inform the actail serios buyers/ sellers on phone only what is best choice for them. This way I wont be blamed for all the wrongs in market. I will post only current going rates etc. I don't want to get in more trouble to tell you about bad investments and get blamed for fallen prices and inability of developers to keep their promises. I am sorry I don't have free time to waist here in useless arguments. I could use that time to update rates more frequently.
Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
0423-111-111-040
0322-4009967 |
Abdul Razzaq - Riyadh replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 02:18 PM PST
CMY Sahib,
You did lot of hard work in the past, you are doing great job at present and I request you continue posting your valuable comments in the future. It is very common we always blame others for our own mistakes. Your hardwork is alway apprecaited. |
Azad K replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 03:04 PM PST
The reason that prices don't rise now is simply due to law of supply and demand. The number of buyers has dried up, as a result genuine owners are fine but the speculators and gamblers are now stuck...the ones that want to be rich overnight. Only genuine buyers will now move the market. Property business has cycles. A few good years and a few not so good years. Property prices cannot rise all the time as otherwise no one will be able to afford to buy it, as prices will rise faster than their earnings. I think until world economic growth resumes or people start building houses in these new sectors and a fair amount of the area is populated don't expect the prices to rise. Both of these things will take some time. |
Habib replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 03:19 PM PST
Dear CMY you are doing your job like a professional, no need to get hurt by few frustated people. You are giving true picture of market people use their wisdom and they have options. When they find their investments are not growing as per their expectations they are frustated.
Dear Shehzad and fourvoyagers people can disagree on speculations but ground realities which can be seen cant be refuted, soon people will get developed plots out of DHA 7, from next year Builders will be attracted and then onwards it will start populating like happened before. In reaestate market property gains price on two occassions firstly when speculative buying is going on, 2ndly when property truly becomes worh living. 2nd type of gain is most sure and prevails in all type of market situations, Like how bad market may be but you can never buy a 10 merla Plot in Johar town in 10 lac, or it was not available even 15 years back in Faisal Town.
CMY is dealer he might intend to attract few more buyers in dull market but his advice about DHA 7 is right. |
warlord replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 03:26 PM PST
Well this forum is to share views and thoughts with good argument .We can all be right or wrong .I bought a plot in phase 6 at 47 lacs in 2003 people said i was a fool ..........in 2005 feburary i was offered 1 corore 15 lacs for it...... people started saying wowwwwwww what an intelligent investment i had made .........
People like CMY only give their views and thoughts they can be rigth or wrong no one is forcing u to belive some thing just sharing info and personal opinions........ One should not get personal with CMY he has shared so many news whihc otherwise would have not reached us ...........if people stop buying parkview and buy phase 7 what benefit can it give to CMY.....Fact of matter is those who talk here are not real buyers or sellers cause real buyer or seller will be in market doin survey not sitting on net........ this forum cannot decrease or increase price or change facts on ground...how ever with information provided here you can judge and make intelligent decesions.........CMY is providing as with a place to share info and he is kind enough to allow us to critise him on his site........All you loosers should make your own site provide property rates update and then criticise other specially CMY.......i my self never liked CMY advocating bahria but difference of opinion should be expressed in a humble way .........CMY sahib donot get upset its hot and humid day in lahore ....have vanilla shake :P and chill you have been doing great job and we look for your opinions and inside news and market rumours.. those who donot like it should not come on this site ....... |
Arfan replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 04:00 PM PST
I appreciate the efforts of this web site and especially CMY for public at large. May God bless him. I strongly request visitors avoid writing against the sponsors in their own interest. |
Azad K replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 04:18 PM PST
I think people should be free to express their opinions. Everyone has their own opinions and it may be biased however each one of us has to do our own homework and not just to rely upon someone else before making a decision. Agents generally have to be positive about the market in order to get us to buy plots but we should be cautious and base our decisions on the facts rather than someone elses opinion. Its our money and at the end of the day its our decsion as to where we spend it. Its people own greed and impatience that normally gets the better of them. Property is a long term investment, people please remember. I would request that people here give the facts when giving advise to and distinguish their opinions from the facts. Sometimes they make their opinions out to be facts. |
SHANI-JEDDAH replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 05:27 PM PST
People, we never thought about property business. They got knowledge through this valuable site. Sitting far far away from my home, If I close my eyes, I can see complete Lahore.Discussions, Rates, Societies, Ariel view, Future view and much much more.
There were always negative remarks posted and we requested thousand time to stop such negative line. But today it effected on sponsor of this page which is really very bad. At this stage I'll Request Mr. CMY, if one or two are bad please don't think all are bad. We are with you all the time. We are your hidden friends. |
Junaid replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 06:21 PM PST
Dear CMY,
You are doing a good job providing valuable information specially to overseas pakistanis for free. Please go over your post (Market rate update 25 July 2009)in which you said hurry up and buy plots in DHA 6 and 7 as there are very few left. THIS IS BY ALL MEANS A STRONG RECOMMENDATION. People have invested on these recommendations over the period of years and have taken the hit. It is very easy for you to wake up one day and say "oh things have changed and now there are other options you should pursue and the ones you have a piece of trash" You being an experienced estate agent know how difficult is it to do property transactions from overseas. You have been giving psoitive recommendations for Parkview all along even until a month back and then al of a sudden you took a 180 degree turn and said parkview is not a good investement.
I am not saying that you are doing al this for yourself but I would recommend that if you dont have the correct market information, please do not make such STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS. I did not buy a single plot from you but have bought plot son your recommendation.
Please don't be angry now when people are confrontng you, be patient and accept that your predictions were not based om material facts rather they were just your gutt feel; wich costed people millions.
Also, I did ask DHA about the land alloation and they said that land for parkview will be alloted in Parkview area but they did not give a date for balloting. Some 312233 replied that here are 2000 files and parkview doesnt have 2000 kanals of land, in his haste to prove that land will not be allocated in parkview he forgot that there are more 10 marla plots than 1 kanal, as per DHA there is enough land to be alloted against parkview files.
I tink its time that the real estate market should be regulated by the Government and DHA be also put on a leash and punished for playing games and making peple lose money. i would also say that we the affectees should write to the chief justce and the relevant Ministry to fix DHA. Legal proceedings can also be taken up against DHA for annoucing the ballot in 2006 and then not doing it. |
friend replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 06:29 PM PST
I was completely blind on real-estate matters prior to joining this site. Now I can see my whole city, prices trend, market ups and down and many more by clicking one button. Due my poor English, I cannot express my feelings & words how much knowledge I gained by this site and of course, FREE of charge. This credit goes to LahoreRealeste in general and CMY in particular for job well done. I request all friends stop criticism on CMY because this site without CMY would not have attraction. |
PROGRESS replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 07:06 PM PST
I'm not a property dealer. But blamed lot of time after posting my add. Its a part of life. Being dealing with public, you should have a brave heart. Don't be panic and keep on trying at least lot of people took benefit from your kind services. |
Jameel replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 07:23 PM PST
CMY is doing good Job, but to take overall view, pls also pay attention to silent voices of Critics, To me negative information is whole lot more important, than all good.
i had been warning for last 3 years. But Now I think CMY is right relatively under priced mature properties will gain in couple of years time scale. |
salman replied on Monday, July 27, 2009 07:52 PM PST
Dear CMY,
CHALOO AUB MAAN BHI JAOO.....KUB TUK TOOTHEY RAHOO GEY |
Azad K replied on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:43 AM PST
I would choose my words very carefully when advising people to depart with their money.
Basically you are saying that in Phase 6 the lowest priced plots are selling although you still have some to sell. You expect prices to rise over the next few weeks.(what will have happened in a few weeks to make prices increase? Is there any new information that will lead to higher prices that is not already reflected in the price by the market?)
Saying plots will cost more is like stating a fact however it is your opinion and you must state that you think or expect prices to rise.
Also stating that DHA will give possession of blocks R S T U Q is making a statement rather than giving an opinion. Until DHA have confirmed this, it is your opinion and you must state that you think or expect possession to be offered and what exactly does "soon" mean....is it 1 week or 1 year?
Just by adding you "think" before you state your opinion makes a big difference.
Sorry CMY you are doing a good job and are a pioneer in internet real estate in Pakistan however I am making this suggestions to help you and the other users.
Market Alert: A lot of buying was seen in DHA 6 last week. Most low price plots in DHA 6 have disapeared. Now some buying have started in DHA phase 7 developed area plots. We still have couple of great deals but I expect them to disapear too in next two to 3 days. Plot like this deal of the day U 793 @ 26 lacs wont stay in market for too long now. Please note this is a under development area plot.
It is strongly recomended to freinds of this web site that you complete your purchases in this week in DHA 6 and 7 or plots in these two phases will cost you a lot more after next few weeks. We are seeing many real buyers that are looking for plots in DHA 6 and 7 developed blocks to make their houses. It is FACT now DHA Lahore phase 7 is now
looking a lot more beutifll than DHA Lahore phase 6. DHA phase 7 is now the best developed phase in entire DHA Lahore. DHA Lahore will insa Allah soon announce possession for R S T U Q blocks. P might take a little longer. W V X Y Z will take a lot of time. |
S.H replied on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:35 AM PST
Chaudhry Muhammad Yasin is a very hardworking and focussed professional. I have never met him but he called me a number of times from Chicago. When he shifted to Lahore he worked hard on this site and populated with a host of informations.I read his comments with interest and value his inputs. I think that CMY should not mind negative remarks as such remarks,if based on logic, can benifit others.
CMY! Please encourage your members to express their opinion freely but support it with logic. |
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 Thursday, July 23, 2009 02:30 PM PST Reply: 
House for Sale in Faisal Town Lahore
A beautiful 10 Marla House is for Sale in C-1 Block Faisal Town. It is located on the widest street in Faisal Town on a T Junction (Road in front) Just steps from Main Road Faisal Town.
It has 5 Bedrooms, 2 Kitchens, Drawing/Dining, TV Lounge. Must see and must sell price of 1 crore 10 lac.
Please call Umer for details and visit 03008430554.
Best Regards
Jameel replied on Friday, July 24, 2009 06:31 PM PST
Yes but on other hand one can easily find one Kanal house in Faisal Town in same price but in W Junction.
come on Mr Umer be realistic in your demand, You did not mention but I am sure that house will be 15+ years old.
Best regards |
Realistic replied on Friday, July 24, 2009 08:16 PM PST
Jameel,
umer's price is v.realistic, the actual price of this house is 2 crore 20 lac but due to recession he is selling it for 1 crore 10 lac only .. and still you are complaining.. ??? you must be ashamed of your self...
Umer i think you should increase the price of this house to 2 crore again and then people will understand what offer they have lost ...
keep it up umer ... |
Ajmal replied on Saturday, July 25, 2009 06:58 PM PST
house is new or old? |
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 Tuesday, July 21, 2009 08:05 PM PST Reply: 
Architecture (Lahore Based)
AOA
Can any brother recommend here a good architecture ( Lahore based).
thanks.
limo replied on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:15 PM PST
Architect: Wasim Rrafi Khan
Mobile: 03009483352
Office Name: Genesis Architects
Location: Faisal Town
A good architect having renowned clientage to his profile. |
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