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humza 
City & Country:
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Wednesday, May 31, 2017 07:15 PM PST  Reply: >

lake city
lake city has started to get back as prices are going up day by day on on ground plots lots of construction is going on at the moment and it is the time to buy before the ring road as they kanal will jump to 130 from 110 and 10 marla from 65 .75 to 75 85 so please keep an eye on this investment

Irfan292 replied on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 08:01 PM PST 

O Phai jan, I don't see any rise. Do u have any data to backup your breaking news

Friend replied on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 09:45 PM PST 

Agreed with Irfan292; prices are static for past few months and I do not see any rise as well. Infect prices are gone significant down last year and stick to certain point since then.
Positive think is, that side of area getting more and more attractive for buyers now but prices are still same. Its buyers time.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:47 PM PST 

Hamza,
Good eye opener for those who need time to complete their purchases due to being overseas, A kanal plot in such a good location in one cror will be a dream soon.
I have always advocated on ground plots. The set back people had in commercials was due to gambling of initial bookies which is always a case in a boom.
On ground plots of M2 M3 are really too good and are cheaper than their counterparts like DHA Rahber which also have location disadvantage [close to Hadira drain]

Arsalan replied on Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:46 PM PST 

100% agreed with Jameel Mughal. Lake City development and ambience is excellent. One Kanal plot in 1 crore is still very cheap. Once Ring Road is completed prices will shoot more than 30%.

Lahore 56® replied on Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:48 AM PST 

Location of nfc2 is much better than lack city.Nfc2 has entrance from canal bank and Multan road, which is national high way.,also ring road.They r going to start development, hopefully that will be best also.still much cheaper.

Observeeer replied on Thursday, June 1, 2017 03:08 AM PST 

Nfc 2 is badly disturbed due to ring road interchange AND also the lot of speculation about new managment corruptions . . Anyhow no development will start in 2017 except little activities like parks . Old road marking etc etc . So nfc 2still at attractive place but have major isues with it future

Ahsan® replied on Thursday, June 1, 2017 05:15 AM PST 

@ jameel Sb

Please explain prospects on Ferozpur road socities such as Central park , Grand Avenue as LRR interchange will bisect Ferozpur road too. Secondly, what is a best time to buy in prism?

Lahore 56® replied on Thursday, June 1, 2017 09:15 AM PST 

Who will sell on this price when development will start.only some plots in A block r under LRR.Do not buy there.last week they got elected and people have started to spread the rumors about their corruption.Typical mentality.
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STH@1956 replied on Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:50 AM PST 

Lahore 56, Thanks for your information that NFC 2 development will start, is new management give any date for starting and it will impact on plots prices which was stuck?

rana m naeem replied on Thursday, June 1, 2017 12:51 PM PST 

i bought in nfc 2 @ 4200000/kanal about 8 month ago, after election a property dealer offered me 50

Faiz0001 replied on Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:25 PM PST 

please anybody can update status of lake city M8. its almost 8 years no possession which was promised after 2.5 years

Jameel Mughal® replied on Friday, June 2, 2017 03:22 AM PST 

Dear Ahsan ever since we have been discussing for last 2 years the value of Central park has increased by 80 percent, a good location plot of Kanal in possession are was 50 which have reached 85 to 90, I gess similar gains will be there in 2 Kanal Plots.
You can check the value of your holdings in market.
Prism will stay at this point for some time . If you want to switch it is possible now. However keep it in mind this much population which central park have today will be 10 ys after in prism. For house making if you have plan in 2025-26 then only prism is good Choice for you
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Ahmad 
City & Country:
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Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:35 AM PST  Reply: >

Today is election day for NFC2.All plot holders r requested to go and cast their votes.

STH@1956 replied on Sunday, May 21, 2017 05:22 PM PST 

It is agreat news after many stay orders.Is new management will start development works soon. we are waiting from long time when development will be started of NFC2. Is new link road passing through NFC2 ? and after complection of link road in August 2017 it will effect the prices of NFC2 plots.

Kuwait 7 replied on Monday, May 22, 2017 06:27 AM PST 

Elections conducted successfully and development is going to start soon. Ring road SL3 will have an interchange on the gate of society.Great times ahead for NFC2.

Lahore 56® replied on Monday, May 22, 2017 08:00 AM PST 

I think nfc2 will be the next 🌟

Muhammad Asif® replied on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 03:26 PM PST 

Yes, I think too that NFC2 is going to be next Lake City :-).
Be careful.

Tan replied on Wednesday, May 24, 2017 08:39 PM PST 

Mr.Asif, can you please explain why you Put your smiley face at the end of your sarcastic statement. The people like you only use these forums to promote the society where you have invested. Regardless we know NFC2 has one of the great approaches and location, eventually this will appreciate and the people like us will build their homes.
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sultan 
City & Country:
Pakistan
Friday, May 19, 2017 04:29 PM PST  Reply: >

NFC2 ke members ko mubarak ho all case for stay on election rejection today. Election will held on Sunday insha allah
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Comparison 
City & Country:
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Monday, May 15, 2017 02:30 PM PST  Reply: >

Prospects
Which one is better between sui gas phase 2 and awt phase 2 with reference to one year or two year time as the process of electrification of sui gas phase 2 is about to commence in few months. Your comments, please. Thanks

Nabeel replied on Monday, May 15, 2017 03:35 PM PST 

Depends on your risk appetite and objective for investment.

If looking to build house immediately or within 1 year go for AWT 2.
Totally risk free. Location also better as closer to Adda Plot Ring road intersection.

SUI Gas 2 is a long delayed project. Electricity has been commencing since 2 years. When electricity will come no one knows. May not be able to build a house within 1 year or even in 2 years.

In terms of investment, there are better investments for that amount of money.

Nabeel® replied on Monday, May 15, 2017 03:38 PM PST 

Depends on your risk appetite and objective for investment.

If looking to build house immediately or within 1 year go for AWT 2.
Totally risk free. Location also better as closer to Adda Plot Ring road intersection.

SUI Gas 2 is a long delayed project. Electricity has been commencing since 2 years. When electricity will come no one knows. May not be able to build a house within 1 year or even in 2 years.

In terms of investment, there are better investments for that amount of money.

Lahore Real Estate replied on Monday, May 15, 2017 04:17 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Sui Gass phase 2 is much better than Awt 2
For More Details Contact,

Mian Waqas
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Lahore Real Estate

Ch.Tasswar BTL replied on Monday, May 15, 2017 05:57 PM PST 

Both are good as for long term more than 3 years Sui Gas 2 have little edge but in short run within one year Awt phase 2 have two steps forward than sui gas .
Big gain is expected in both due to LRR SL2 which will be open for public in 14 Agust 2017 and remain in mind that when SL3 will completed in start of next year these two societies demand will on peak because of bahria interchange and left alternate route which will start from sui gas 2 cross behind awt 2nd entrance towards LDA Avenue. Remaining Asses yourslef and decide .

No doubt Allah knows the best and great planner.

Zafer from Dubai. replied on Monday, May 15, 2017 06:18 PM PST 

Nice thread. I.A on this eid trip of pak i will be visit this area .Thanks for lahorerealestate.com for providing of this information.

Islam Estate Lhr replied on Monday, May 15, 2017 06:27 PM PST 

I think this area(awt 2, sui gas 2, bacon house soicety etc..) is the hidden gems while the price is underrate but location,developments and enlargements are astonishing.

Big Bash replied on Monday, May 15, 2017 11:57 PM PST 

@Ch.Tasswar BTL
You mention that
" left alternate route which will start from sui gas 2 cross behind awt 2nd entrance towards LDA Avenue."

SL3 will pass through nfc2 not from lda avenue.Kindly make it correct.

According to my opinion both are good.If your purpose is to play safe than go for awt2 and if you want to take little bit risk in term of electricity issue then go for sui gas and if electricity issue fixes then you will see good jump better than awt2.

Asif replied on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 01:16 PM PST 

Appreciate if LRE can explain here on the forum that why SG2 is much better than AWT2, so all members can get the info.

Adnan_Ali® replied on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 03:21 PM PST 

IMO SuiGas2 has a good edge of currently low prices due to electricity issue plus have direct access to Bahria and its commercial area and Ring Road but on the other hand its stucked due to electricity , whereas AWT2 is safe investment with possession . so for me SuiGas2 is Medium Risk and Good gain but AWT2 is no risk but less gain as compared to SuiGas2.

Akram niazi replied on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 09:12 AM PST 

I will recommend you to go for AWT 2. why ?
Because
1- Dimensions of the Plot.
2- Immediate Possession.
3- Safe(No qabza mafia, Clean and crystal position of transfer of plots)
4- All Utilities of life available.
5- Families are living .
6- plots are still cheaper then surrounding societies.

And in my opinion these above facilities are lacking in sui gas 2. I will appreciate if Mian Waqas will let me know In which regard Sui gas 2 is better then awt2.

Nabeel® replied on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 01:07 PM PST 

Friends should understand every real estate company has their own preferred projects which they recommend based on their analysis.Some are right, some are wrong.

LRE has always not recommended AWT-2 since beginning which we should respect.

As I was owner in AWT-2, I can share some facts and leave rest to friends to conclude:

Purchase Date: April 2013
Purchase Price: 26 lakh 50 thousand.
Selling Date: May 2016
Selling Price: 75 lakh
Gain over 3 years: 200%

Plus AWT-2 has been very safe investment, just like Fazaia etc. but we do not hear about them as we follow only herd mentality.

Market always focuses on Lakecity, DHA, Bahria but please understand fraud is very prevalent in market and even big names have given big headaches.
Rest all friends should think not just 100 times, but 1000 times before investing, and do their own research.

Akram niazi replied on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 03:22 PM PST 

Well Said Mr. Nabeel.

Malik Irfan replied on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 04:42 PM PST 

First of all i want to say i am not dealer and trader of packing materiel.
here i want to share my experience related to both Societies.
I purchased 2 , 10 marla plots in AWT phase 2 D block in October 2015 of 22 and 23 lakh and sale one of them in Nov 16 of 45 lakh with suggestion of my property consultant and earn more than 100% gain in just one year. i purchased in Sui gas after sale in AWT plot with 48 lakh of 1 kanal plot and now still its value is the same and the remaining one plot in Awt now market value is above 50 . now decide yourself which one is best in both.
Actually construction of houses in awt is increasing rapidly due to ready to build home with all facilities but sui gas is stagnant due to electricity issue but if in future issue of electricity solve then high jump in prices of sui gas is expected .

Arshad01 replied on Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:47 AM PST 

Irfan and Nabeel Sahub
Based on your experiences, can you please advise how easy or difficult is it to sell your plots in AWT2. Are there enough customers available? Thanks

Muhammad Asif® replied on Thursday, May 18, 2017 01:04 PM PST 

Irfan sb, you entered in AWT2 at very good time, everything has increased from Oct15 to May2016. This is nothing to do with AWT2 alone.
Prices after that period are almost stagnant, You can even find a 10 marla in AWT2 now for 37-43 lakhs. People who bought in SG2 in 2015 also doubled their investment till June 2016.
Question is which one is better from here onwards.
One which is already developed with B class infrastructure, no margin left for any development inside the society only outside factors will impact the prices like LRR, which are common for both societies.
Second which has neighborhood of BT and access to unmatching facilities of BT.
Electricity and possession will also impact the prices and then construction activity.
Apart from that society has 1 kanal and 2 kanal category only.

Nabeel® replied on Thursday, May 18, 2017 02:04 PM PST 

Arshad sb, there are always enough customers for possession societies where houses are there and people living. Customers would be mostly those who want to build house.

Malik Irfan replied on Thursday, May 18, 2017 08:32 PM PST 

Dear Asif,
i have already mentioned the expected jump in prices of Sui gas in last sentence of my earlier comments and i have interest in both but the question mark is that uncertainty of solving issues of Sui Gas. Ok tell me if
> if issue of electricity of sui gas not solved in next five years then what is the status of gain compared to awt.
> Plz precise the difference of both developments although i think this is the same in both.
> if sui gas is more near to bahria than what u say about near to DHA Rahber, and other good socities like bahria, lake city commercials even raiwind road main interchange of LRR.

Muhammad Asif® replied on Friday, May 19, 2017 12:02 AM PST 

Irfan bhai,
My point was that your story of plots bought and sold on 100% profit is irrelevant as both societies doubled their prices in that time span, even one without electricity & possession :-)
Secondly what if electricity is not provided, well no one can guarantee on any of the society, but this is fully developed society they have 100% land & all developed roads, people buying 1 kanal for 81 lakhs (in BT) for which even they dont know if BT has 100% land or not. To me it is very minimal risk in case of SG but good reward.
If SG is more near to Bahria than...... Brother have you even visited the area? SG and BT share the road.

ROI 3 years replied on Friday, May 19, 2017 02:50 AM PST 

Thanks for all giving helpfull information.
Please precise this disscussion and every men give his estimated gain in percentage in both societies in next 3 years..
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M.Ilyas® 
City & Country:
lahore
Saturday, April 1, 2017 07:06 AM PST  Reply: >

1). ANY UPDATE REGARDING NFC 2
2). MARKET VALUE OF PLOT # 398 -B IN NFC 2 LAHORE

Mian Munir replied on Saturday, April 1, 2017 08:35 AM PST 

Elections to be held on 21st May Insha Allah.

Lahore 56® replied on Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:01 PM PST 

Very good news.

Ahmad replied on Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:02 PM PST 

Very good news.

STH@1956 replied on Sunday, April 2, 2017 11:51 AM PST 

Mian Munir Sbh,
Please inform us the stay order has cancelled ,NFC Management had given the date of Election many times .
Many thanks

Mian Munir replied on Sunday, April 2, 2017 06:33 PM PST 

Yes, stay order is being removed and court has ordered cooperative dept to conduct elections.

Lahore 56® replied on Sunday, April 2, 2017 09:59 PM PST 

Test
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cold 
City & Country:
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Thursday, December 22, 2016 07:45 AM PST  Reply: >

Market is still cold. No excitement on this page :\

Lahore 56® replied on Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:07 AM PST 

Good news for market, NFC2 stay order has gone, paving way for election and development.

Surfer® replied on Thursday, December 22, 2016 03:56 PM PST 

Very soon you will find a loads of excitement on this page & in the Lahore Market. "In shaa ALLAH"

Rana786® replied on Friday, December 23, 2016 05:11 AM PST 

You are too rushed to hear updates and news.
Bahi, hosla karo and let things settle down.

Khana paka nahi aur ap nay khayal mein hi kha liya ha.

Property needs patience which is not visible from your batein.

M. Imran replied on Friday, December 23, 2016 11:28 PM PST 

Good to listen.. let see what happen next with NFC2..
10 + year finish..waiting development..

IRFAN AHMED replied on Tuesday, January 3, 2017 01:40 PM PST 

SIR STAY IS NOW GONE,WHAT ABOUT PRICES NFC2

Raza Khan replied on Saturday, January 7, 2017 01:45 AM PST 

Again no idea what will be happened in the coming day!
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BAHRIA TOWN 
City & Country:
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Monday, December 12, 2016 06:13 PM PST  Reply: >

SECTOR-F, BT
I shall be obliged if some one could update me about bahria town, sector-F: Iam confused that there are still some files against which plots have yet not been allocated and there are some files against which plots have been allocated; Pl resolve this mystery for me. Thanks

Adrees® replied on Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:44 AM PST 

Also if someone can upload latest pics of development in Sector F. will the main road from NFC2 be constructed to join main boulevard in F at food court?

Lahore 56® replied on Tuesday, December 13, 2016 08:09 PM PST 

Bahria has bought whole land in that area.speacilly sector F.yesterday I visited nfc2,150 feet nfc2 road has already connected,but bahria side is under construction,as soon as nfc2 150 feet road finishing.Bahrias main road starting but under construction.That land was very deep.Buldozers and compactors r on job.
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Saqib 
City & Country:
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Monday, November 28, 2016 08:27 AM PST  Reply: >

Hi,

Please evaluate below plots:

Lake city 1 Kanal near 257 M3.

NFC2 10 Marla near 588 G.

Lahore Real Estate replied on Monday, November 28, 2016 11:07 AM PST 

Dear Mr Saqib,

Lake City near M3 257 is around 100 to 105 lacs.

Plot near G 588 is around 30 lacs (cost of land).

Mian Waqas
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM

Habib replied on Monday, November 28, 2016 03:44 PM PST 

Main wWqas What is Overall Trend of 10 M and Kanal plots with Possession in Lake City, I am Talking of M2 M3 and M2A

Lahore Real Estate replied on Monday, November 28, 2016 04:04 PM PST 

Dear Mr Habib,

Its right time to buying in lake city because of low prices.



Mian Waqas
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Tanveer replied on Monday, November 28, 2016 04:08 PM PST 

Hi,

Do you want to sell you LC plot via LRE ?

Jamal Malik replied on Monday, November 28, 2016 09:23 PM PST 

Dear Waqas,

Where do you see the prices of Lake City M3 1-K plots after completion of LRR Southern Loop?

Lahore Real Estate replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:14 AM PST 

Dear Mr Jamal,

After completion of LRR Southern Loop max gain expected 5 to 10 lacs.


Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM

Kureshi® replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:25 AM PST 

I tend to disagree. in one year time , after LRR is through, there should be a jump of atleast 15-20 % .

regards

Uber replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 12:59 PM PST 

Agreed with Kureshi sb. I think Lake City is a brilliant society (MUCH better in development) than many of the DHA phases. I think atleast 20% gain within 1/2 years of completion of LRR. The only thing keeping Lake City off the charts was the distance but that too will change with LRR.

Haadi replied on Tuesday, November 29, 2016 06:28 PM PST 

Very healthy discussion
I personally feel after completion of southern loop gain expected could b more then 60%.
My friend who bought here back 2 years now at profit of 40 lakhs
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Kaashif Ch 
City & Country:
Lahore & Pakistan
Saturday, November 5, 2016 10:49 PM PST  Reply: >

NFC Phase 2

Muhammad Imran replied on Sunday, November 6, 2016 01:54 PM PST 

if NFC2 meeting on 5 th November cancel , so what is next ?
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SHAHZAD20® 
City & Country:
pakistan
Thursday, November 3, 2016 07:34 PM PST  Reply: >

SPECIAL MEETING OF NFC MEMBERS CANCELLED
REGISTRAR COOPERATIVES PUNJAB LAHORE CANCELLED SPECIAL MEETING OF NFC WHICH WAS GOING TO BE HELD ON .

Lahore 56® replied on Friday, November 4, 2016 02:30 AM PST 

Why it's happened.bhai koi detail bateen.How about Court date and election.

MSR replied on Friday, November 4, 2016 08:30 AM PST 

I have a feeling that at the end, Bahria is going to take over NFC2. All these delay tactics does not make sense otherwise.
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umair 
City & Country:
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Sunday, October 23, 2016 04:14 AM PST  Reply: >

Any Update regarding nfc2 election hearing in court

Imran Sani replied on Monday, October 24, 2016 10:16 PM PST 

Next hearing date 5 December
AGM of NFC will be held at NFC Phase-2 on 5th November

Muhammad Imran replied on Monday, December 5, 2016 10:33 PM PST 

court 5 December update regarding NFC2 stay order ??
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Lahore 56® 
City & Country:
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Wednesday, October 19, 2016 05:43 PM PST  Reply: >

Nfc2
As I remember there was a court date on 17 Oct regarding nfc2 stay order.If some one has latest information and like to share please.

umerjee replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 07:26 PM PST 

i think it was today.trying my best to get update

Visitor replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 08:17 PM PST 

it was today not 17th october
if someone have updated news regarding court orders please share

Imran replied on Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:20 AM PST 

yes the hearing date is .
The worst is another date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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umer88 
City & Country:
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Sunday, October 16, 2016 09:54 PM PST  Reply: >

suigas 2, statelife 2, NFC 2, AWT 2,
looking to buy kanal which is best under 35lac

Lahore Real Estate replied on Monday, October 17, 2016 12:20 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

NFC Phase 2 is best choice as compared to other societies, but your mentioned budget is not enough to buy a good plot.


Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM

Qameel replied on Monday, October 17, 2016 03:17 PM PST 

Please advice should my plot in central park nearby 951 facing park and corner with possession and purchase nfc2 or Sui gas phase 2 please guide me where to invest

Just a reader of posts replied on Monday, October 17, 2016 05:09 PM PST 

Are you serious? NFC2 Kanal under 35? I would suggest everyone to read question and then jump on answering it to avoid any confusion. Seems like everyone has their own online rates but on ground serious customer face a different situation. I do not think at NFC2 anyone can get Kanal under 35, even close to graveyard.
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Kaashif Ch 
City & Country:
Pakistan
Tuesday, October 11, 2016 02:21 PM PST  Reply: >

NFC2

umerjee replied on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 05:58 PM PST 

nfc 2 development to start very soon.An extra ordinary general meeting has been called on 5 novmber to take a decision on development work.

Amer replied on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 07:58 PM PST 

Finally NFC2 is moving on

Imran replied on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:50 AM PST 

Its a great news

Amer replied on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:14 PM PST 

Best Buying Time in NFC2

NFC prices are bound to increase due to Ring Road but on ground Development & Elections would really entice the investments

Aseem replied on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 06:48 PM PST 

Although I also have a plot in NFC-2, I feel that all the postings have been made by a single person...regards....

umerjee replied on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:40 PM PST 

you are absolutely wrong dear MR ASEEM

SHAHZAD20® replied on Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:32 AM PST 

THANKS ALLAH NFC 2 management ko bhi koi sharam aa gai
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London 
City & Country:
LONDON
Tuesday, September 27, 2016 05:53 AM PST  Reply: >

Best option out of the BOx
Dear Forum members.
I am normally a silent reader of this forum but regular investor of Lahore property market from last 8-10 years. I seen a last days of 2007 slump and up rise market in later years. I seen mostly people follow the crowd in property market and people make short term gains just by buying which is recommended for various reasons by their closed ones. I have listened in past to dealers and had profits on investments but more benefit was reaped when I did research and gave weight age to my thoughts. I have observed another scene in Lahore property market that few big dealers make a pool of some by choosing certain block or phase and buy silently and once they hold most of the “Bayanas” in that part, they will aggressively recommend their investors to invest and once all their “Mal” is off loaded dealers will find next so called “Hot Location”. Dealers always have strong reasons to hold their claim as why this is best investment of time? Anyways my point is to draw your attentions to few things which I rarely read in recent past. I recently came back from Pakistan and has spend almost 10 days visiting different societies and learning about their ground realities.
I have seen people becoming millionaires mainly from DHA and Bahria. In recent past due to some political reasons Bahria is not performing very well. In my view looking at facilities and prices in other societies Bahria prices are very reasonable and have very good chance to increase once the market get stable.
Instead of buying here and there in A and B category schemes why not buy at reasonable prices within Bahria but only ongroud plots in Sector F. InshaAllah it’s got huge potential and will be very beneficial for any short term and long term investors.
As CMY sb has explained many times that huge profit potential is always in commercial so looking at this I checked all the MB commercials in A B and even C category schemes.
Ask yourself a question that do you find any commercial on 150feet MB in any society fully developed in Lahore with possession and which can be immediately built and rented out?
I went to NFC2 commercials. I checked the commercial prices of central Park, Park View Villas Multan Road, Grand Avenue, Bahria Orchard, Lakecity, New Lahore City, DHA Rahber and all other DHA. I could not find a single commercial on MB for 150 Lacs.
When I visited Sector F and look on ground progress of Sector F I was amazed to see that how nicely this road has been built and due to ShahKam busy traffic many people are using this MB to access Bahria Town from Shareef complex road /Jati Ummrah road through SuiGas2. Like any other investments there are two element which are stopping this to grow first this sector F has no aceess to Multan Road due to “Bhatta” in between Sector F MB and NFC2 MB. I think once this Bhatta is gone InshaAllah no one can stop to get this investment to grow.
I bought Tepu Block commercial 150 Feet for 133 which is 17 lac minus of its original booking price of 150 lacs. This plot has 30x40 dimension and front parking is 30x30 and reer parking is 20x30 hence plot is open from both side.
Just I sold one five marla MB at Sector C for 642lac which I bought for 75 lacs in 2010. So you can imagine what potential Sector F plots hold. Already 10 marla residential plots anywhere after Shershah block is minimum 62 to 85 lacs. According to my observation 5 marla commercial in Bahria MB should be 5 times of one 10 marla plot in same vicinity so realistic value should be minimum 300lac. Any investments in Shershah Block, Sikander Block, Ghaznavi Block, Tepu Block, commercial MB plots are not getting recommended by dealers currently but silently they are buying here. Grab a good deal before u miss a train to own a MB commercial plot in Bahria. Remember buy when everyone is selling and sell when everyone is buying.
Take Care and please guide with your healthy comments Regards,

User_9091® replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 09:38 AM PST 

Bahria lahore has over supply of commercials with empty plazas on MB. Don't expect any rental return for next 5 years if you buy in sector F commercial.its all empty and will take many years to populate

M Zahid® replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:21 AM PST 

Dear London,
If you have given the location of where you bought your 2010 plot, would have been helpful.
Or
Commercial plot no vs house plots as well as constructed house ratio could have been good comparison to reach any conclusion that it could be good investment or not.
simple maths
if 5 commercials and 95 houses will do good but if 5 houses and 95 commercials then they have to look outside for customers.

AhmetKildir® replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:49 AM PST 

Register and we'd know your not a alter ego. Gives credibility.

IM786® replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:09 PM PST 

Yes these plots are under priced. Bhatti is expected to be demolished in one month as land is purchased.

MFA® replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:43 PM PST 

What kind of credibility it gives if one register himself with LRE as long as some one is sharing logical stuff? I think what is written in an article above is fair enough although one can differ.

tahir replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:52 PM PST 

badian road widening is the most promising govt plant in 2016/17.

we hope all the phases will benifit including Z2 of pkase 7

Unregistered replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 01:15 PM PST 

I think no one should tell others to get registered.It is the prerogative of CMY and his team. If they want they can block or delete unregistered posts.

London replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 03:35 PM PST 

@user 9091..
Before visiting the area i was under the same impression but unlike Sector C ....sector F have only MB commercials with no back commercials and far less than any other sector and on other hand just few yards away 8 Marla commercials near Ifel Tower are trading from 450-500 lacs. Sec F has many attractions including a new cinema 80% complete ...A big shopping mart 90% complete...one and only petrol station 70% complete....Beautiful Masjid very large at main MB...
rumours to have Taj Mahal replica to be built in a park at Ghaznavi Block park fronting MB. When i visited the area on Sunday it seemed more busy than Sec C due to many families visiting Iefel Tower and surrounding gardens. there is some disputed land within "Theme Park" once this is sorted it will be an Icon of Lahore and will serve as next huge attraction for visitors. Dolphin Show place within Theme Park is almost 80% complete..I noticed one thing which i could not see in any other society that general public comes to visit Bahria with their families as its some kind of attraction and mainly public can be seem from Jamia Masjid to Ifel Tower as all the attractions are on that side ...Anyways only reason to write this article to advice what i think is best investment in this budget in commercials. Bahria is Bahria and when property rolls in Bahria then in matter of days things goes beyond reach.

@M Zahid sb i sold 8c side A Sector C and please look into map to decide which sector got most commercials it was actually Sector C not F.
Thanks

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 04:26 PM PST 

@London, thank you for sharing such a useful information!

alpha replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 06:45 PM PST 

Dear @London - your note is a breath of fresh air - among Prism mantra ...

Imran replied on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:34 AM PST 

@London: I am planning to buy 5 and 7 Marla LakeCity Lahore file from the dealer on 2.5 installments. Do you think it would be a safe investment with high gain. I don't want to lose my hard earned money.

I want to be a short term investor from 0 to 18 months gain from my investment.

The total cost of plot will be 5 Marla 30 Lakhs and 7 Marla is 42 Lakhs

Other people told me to invest in AWT or Sui Gas but i don't see that i can get any short term profit/gain from AWT and Sui GAS.

Can you please give your professional, honest suggestion???

Thank you
Imran
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Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:05 AM PST  Reply: >

Lahore Ring Road
Ring Road work is in full boom for Adda Plot interchange...

Very good sign for raiwind side properties

Ring Road replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 12:49 PM PST 

What about other areas of Lahore ring road Southern Section

mkbkhalid® replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 01:08 PM PST 

from adda plot to Multan road which will go from bahria any update

User_16051® replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 01:22 PM PST 

Recent update is that Ring Road has started policing loop-3 strip inside bahria, they have already demolished bahria boundary wall in that portion from where LRR-3 would pass. and moreover affectees in Bahria town have already been given the forms by Bahria Management about the compensation options which they can opt to.
The other areas of LRR-SL would be equally beneficial.

FAA.awan® replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 01:28 PM PST 

It's a time to invest in Raiwind side soceities nearby LRR. Very positive for those soceities.

LOYAL PAKISTANI replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 06:58 PM PST 

Will Fazaya be divided in 2 parts by LRR. I think it will create bad impact like noice pollution n heavy traffic etc


What do you think ?

Ahmad786® replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 08:10 PM PST 

People give such arguments against Fazaia for the past one year and prices are almost double. Fazaia even after devided remain a beautiful liveable gated society. There is no commercial inside residence areas so it can be kept gated

Ahmad786® replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 08:11 PM PST 

BTW alternate Raiwind Road has already divided into two and yet the prices are still rising. LRR will bring more spice

LOYAL PAKISTANI replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 08:37 PM PST 

Let's see in future.

Prices are also doubled on ADA Plot societies. I'm of the view that it will impact both positive n negative on society.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:42 PM PST 

The M3A side Commercials in Lake city were all by useful deal Between LRR, LDA and Lake city where they allowed The Conversion of 1/2 Land in the Commercials, Here all people,owners, Lake city, LRR, LDA, People who will pass on LRR and Govt of Punjab got win win situation,
I don't know Why Bahia also engages in same deals relocate affectees and and Convert Land into 1/2 Commercials facing service Roads. Similar deal can be done by NFC2 and and they can get out of Financial issues.

London replied on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 03:24 AM PST 

Buy Sector F commercials before they go beyond limits currently trading at lowest
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Saturday, September 24, 2016 11:56 PM PST  Reply: >

Experts Opinion
Experts,
As we already now that property sale purchase is almost struct.So I want to know.
Investment for 2to 3 years.
Which of the socities are still underprice and best for investments.
Where you will see market in next 1year.
As I invest in on ground plot as many of us invest in files how much DHA9 is safe?
I am asking this question as people suffer alot in DHA City.
What you suggest files or on ground plot?

Jameel Mughal® replied on Monday, September 26, 2016 02:16 AM PST 

For better gain try to find at best bargain as this is market of buyer, Keep 2,3 Options. Keep in mind price may drop but less likely in these areas.

In 35+-2 I will try to get a bragin plot in J Block Prism in middle cutting
AWT 10 merla with possession non mortgage.
Bahria Orchard 8 Marla almost ready but no possession yet area,
NFC2 Kanal even if development is not complete it keeps on gaining, and mind you it is semi developed.
Sui gas 2 Kanal will be out of this budget,

Adnan_Ali® replied on Monday, September 26, 2016 10:38 AM PST 

@Jameel sb, can you please also mention the fair values with each option as u mentioned so other people can also take advantage of your expert opinion.

By the way, when last time you visited NFC2 and may i know what is definition of semi-developed or development not completed?

Sir Jee (jab development start hi nahin hoyie , to semi-development kaisey ho gai) ?
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Saturday, September 24, 2016 12:53 PM PST  Reply: >

Raiwind March
IKs Raiwaing March is set on 30th Sept. Please share how much it impact on the Lahore Real estate market? Also if anyone can share what was the impact during his earlier sit-in in Islamabad?

RavianGik® replied on Saturday, September 24, 2016 01:50 PM PST 

InshaAllah it will have positive impact.

Very few ppl know about the developments happened at Raiwid road and near by areas.

IK rallies mostly have middle class educated ppl so once they will go they will be amazed by the development at Raiwind road and related areas.

Seeing is believing so many ppl will make up their mind to settle in those areas will tell their friends - relatives about beautiful societies like Lake city one of best standard developed society in that area

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 24, 2016 01:55 PM PST 

This will have positive impact for that site as many will be visiting the area, People will be amazed to see development Like Alternate raiwind road, Lake City, Bahria and Fazaia I don't think something can happen to Land.
Similarly Dharna will less likely to be prolonged as areas is thinly populated, Rule is 20% political workers and 80% Tamasha viewers, Tamash seeing people will be much less as compared to Mall Road or Nasir Bagh.
Neither local people will like his stance that all this development is being done for sake of Jatti Umra

RavianGik® replied on Saturday, September 24, 2016 01:55 PM PST 

InshaAllah it will have positive impact.

Very few ppl know about the developments happened at Raiwid road and near by areas.

IK rallies mostly have middle class educated ppl so once they will go they will be amazed by the development at Raiwind road and related areas.

Seeing is believing so many ppl will make up their mind to settle in those areas will tell their friends - relatives about beautiful societies like Lake city one of best standard developed society in that area

KSA® replied on Saturday, September 24, 2016 02:55 PM PST 

If this darna will be in hands of jameel Mughal he will give play cards of lake city to each person.

Because he is the marketing agent of lake city.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 24, 2016 06:06 PM PST 

KSA, By grace of God Name any A class location and I have not holdings there, DHA 7,8,9 Lake, valencia, LDA 1, Model Town ext, NFC2 etc etc I know each and ever one from A to Z, The advice is only for those who want to take.

User_16051® replied on Saturday, September 24, 2016 06:16 PM PST 

Hold on KSA, Looks like this you are bearing some serious grudge towards one of most respectable contributor at this forum- Respect and gratitude must be observed at this forum while differing any opinion towards others. If you disagree regarding his views on Prism then you can come forward with reason and logic rather passing blunt and derogaratory comments.

Thanks

overthesea® replied on Saturday, September 24, 2016 06:38 PM PST 

CMY, Jameel,Surfer, HassanHC, Ahmad Hassan, Surfer, Ahmet are the precious elements of this site and i believe and hope they will be very good people in real life too as we see their words.

My respectful advice to all readers that its true we have very good instrument in form of LRE web site to make comments on each other views but lets maintain the harmony, respect for all and willingness to accept each others thoughts despite of any difference.

This web site and senior contributors have helped people, how to think on property investment, what to consider when, & why it will be good for all of us. We still have long way to go together from this learning phase as none is perfect in this world. People who are perfect are having more experiences of failures so they are sharing their experiences so other don't fell in this race.

Let's learn from each other with grace.

LOYAL PAKISTANI replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 02:15 AM PST 

You people are very right seeing is believing. Otherwise it will be routine old free style show.

AhmetKildir® replied on Sunday, September 25, 2016 09:53 AM PST 

Inshallah the March will be successful also. Enough of tax money laundering to Panama, Dubai, London, Switzerland and Jeddah. This money should be spent on our kids education and health care.
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Saturday, September 17, 2016 01:14 AM PST  Reply: >

Phase 7 Commercial
Parkview fell from much over 300k to 270
Ivy Green fell and the price gap between IVy commercial and 7Commercial shrank from 25 lac to just a few lac now (read almost same in real sense)
Rahbar commercial fell from almost 235 to 208
Phase 9 commercial Oval complex (although not a file anymore but balloted plots) fell over 50 lac in the same period

The only commercial file that has shown the highest resilience in this slump post taxes is the commercial file of Phase 7 which is still hovering above 255 which is the lowest drop in any of the above mentioned commercial files since end June 16.

Lesson for those not too filled with self praise/egos and of open mind to learn from past mistakes: High performance in the recent past is not the correct yard stick for investments. The correct yard stick to guage the future value of investment is fundamental reality of over priced/over hyped property existing on papers for a distant future vs under valued property nearing completion

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Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 01:36 AM PST 

Well said shah, the issue is forum members are mostly holders and biased towards their own investment not matter what is logic,and that is human nature. There are few which comment based on facts and give true picture.
We have learnt a lot in previous two cycles of hypes and slumps but did not get benefit out of that.

Shah® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 02:25 AM PST 

True that Jameel bhai

Following the market hype and then falling is love with that investment decision against all rationale and against all ground reality is the biggest short coming in most investors. But then at the expense of sounding selfish I must say market needs such people who loose money due to this. Otherwise the rest wont make money as without loosers there could be no winners. My apology again to anyone who gets offended with this rather selfish sounding comment. But thats the reality.

HassanHC® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:55 AM PST 

Jameel Saab then in the same sentence where you have mentioned biases of holders of non Phase 7 plot, mention CMY SAAB also. As many times he proved you why prism is superior overal to phase 7.
Also yes different phases get cooling off but praising each other for holding phase 7 plot for last 2 years is good but at the same time PHASE8 PRISM IVY GREEN PARKVIEW are reality and most of them have been invested by 1000s of investors I am sure they are not as fool and naive as you and Mr Shah think and those investors who held for last 1-2 yrs minimum earned more dollar to dollar compared to phase 7 and let's see in future how much they loose vs your golden investments.

If you will present an inspector like a commissioner on daily basis I will have to differ. Though may be I respect inspector a lot. (Translation I like phase 7 but how you are trying to present it more bigger then it is attract criticism though independently it's not a bad investment)

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 04:55 AM PST 

Phase 7 is close to completion. It will be ultimate choice for those want to build own home to live. Prices will go up with pace of construction. Phase 7 can be excluded from current slump. Phase 9 has own importance due to location & features. Keep in mind that Lahore City is spreading horizontally. No one can predict which phase will become more important in future. As of today, Phase 9 is a risk because prices may go down further, either one can save few lacs or lose. Everyone want to buy on less price. But sellers and plot holders want to see profit on daily basis. This Sami ullah & Kaleem Ullah match will continue. I don't see any comorasion between both phases, one is choice for those want to make home & second is choice for investors.

Shah® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 09:24 AM PST 

Serious investors are heartless so to speak as far as place of investment is concerned. They dont have affiliations with any particular property or phase. Getting emotional and making every single post on this forum about phase7 vs phase 9 depicts a rather immature mindset on investment matters.

Phase 9 was a great buy last year at last year prices. Many, like me bought at that time. And we sold at peak this year in the first half of the year when prices over shot the realistic level. There will be another time for entry in phase9 but that time is not now.

I personally have no affiliations with either phase7 or phase 9. I have affiliations only with my ROI which is close to 100% in last 12 months (for this part of my portfolio in DHA) by two simple moves:

1. Buying phase 9 when it was the time to buy last year and selling it when it was time to sell in April 16
2. Buying pgase 7 when it was time to buy (Feb 16) and holding it till ballot (which is due some time this year). And then it will be time to sell even this one a d to move on

My sincere advise to the newbee investors here is to not get trapped in their emotional preferences of one pvase over other. Money is made with a cold heart and with numerical logic and ground realities. Not with hot headed emotions clouding your decision. Wise are the one who learn from their mistakes and not get fixated over them. The later kind is the likes of political cannon fodder of the mentality "Shair eik vari fair". Wont do you any good.

Cheers

AhmetKildir® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:11 PM PST 

Parkview was way overpriced at 300. I sold mine a few quarters ago making a decent markup on it. If I had the money I'd invest in phase 7 plot instead of a file as the difference isn't that massive if I'm not wrong.

Everyone here highlights their investments. It doesn't make them hypocrites. They invested their hard earned money there because they believed in it. Mr. Jameel wrote a very sarcastic email about me earlier forgetting completely that even his posts start with Lake City and end with Phase 7 both of which are a part of his portfolio.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:22 PM PST 

Hassan You know Yourself that I am prism investor, though small, As an investor you have your own limits where you feel that this investment got realistic value and more than that is artificial. Advising the people at that point is sincerity not Phase 7ism or Phase 9 Vendetta. To me realistic value of Phase 9 average plot is 90 Lac Full paid. This based upon inflation adjusted value of average Phase 8 price. level he should be Ok, Though market still may undershoot or over shoot. [others have right to disagree]
Because Course of DHA 9 was very long so it was predictable even when Phase 9 was leaping every day.
I have relatively bigger investment in Phase 8 but never advised anyone that it is "best" Investment of day.

Surfer® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:27 PM PST 

@ Shah sb. The teacher.
Thanx for your lesson.
Can I ask you a question?
Why are you comparing your commercials with phase 9 Prism & Ivy green which just balloted last year?
WHAT IS THE REASON BEHIND THIS?
Kindly make an analysis on realistic bases you are very near to phase 8 which is balloted after phase 7. Kindly make comparasion with commercial broadway phase8 to justify yourself & your statement.
Again Reflection of FEAR Comparasion with phase 9 PRISM.
Comparasion of matured Investment with developing one day may harmfull to you in future.
PRISM is a "INVESTOR PARADISE" & remain will untill or unless their is an other phase develop by DHA Lahore Chapter like PRISM.

Ahsan® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 01:23 PM PST 

@ Jameel Sahib

I highly regard your advice and opinion. Kindly suggest when is the time to enter prism 1 kanal and what is anticipated price in March 2017 of priem 1 kanal? Please guide us.

Ahsan® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 01:23 PM PST 

@ Jameel Sahib

I highly regard your advice and opinion. Kindly suggest when is the time to enter prism 1 kanal and what is anticipated price in March 2017 of priem 1 kanal? Please guide us.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 01:29 PM PST 

Surfer, He is pointing on good investment of the day, not proving that DHA 7 was better than Broadway, All of these investment have potential some have already over shooted and reached @ 2020 price, no matter how good they are, It will not be wise to buy them,
Wisdom is to see what will give you more gain today.

I give you comparison of My observation of Holding One Plot in Valencia and one in Phase 7

2006 end Valencia average 30, Phase 7 average 40 [here I Picked valencia]
2007 end Valencia average 40 Phase 7 average 35
June 2008 Valencia average 42 Phase 7 average 35 [Here I Picked Phase 7@33]
2010 valencia average 45 DHA 7 average 38 [at that time I was stunned as there was lot of on ground development even poles and transformers in Phase 7 ut it was not picking]
2012 end Valencia average 70 DHA 7 average 90
March 2016 Valencia 120 DHA phase 7 115 [It was time to Pick 7]
Sept 2016 Valencia average 125 DHA 7 average 140

Wisdom is not to Pick an investment when it is in hype and keep singing its song, Rather find underpriced areas and invest in time.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 01:49 PM PST 

Dear Ahsan, I myself have little Appetite to make a new investment of near 100 lac, As I already have many, However my entry point in Prism will be 90 Full Paid in 2017, or 99 Full paid 2018.{if it will be available @ this Price] My Calculations are based on inflation adjusted price of previous similar investments. However based on personal need one can enter at a bit higher level.

Even at this price M3 and M2 Lake city @ 100 are more sensibly priced than prism. Phase 7 stands at right price, Phase 8 is inflated. Valencia and Izmir are Marginally underpriced [You can Judge from DHA Rahbar Phase 1 where no plot is 500 Yards away from Nallah and price is 150]

Ahsan® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 01:55 PM PST 

@jameel Sahib

You are a gem on this forum, please share your opinion for central Park and Grand Avenue. I have a plot in central park 1 kanal possession and getting offer of 77 lacs and Grand Avenue near possession for 45 lacs. I feel that they can still grow further or how hard slump will hit them?

Regards Ahsan

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:10 PM PST 

Dear Ahsan,
Don't Touch Central Park it will give you slow gain in spite of slump, Grand Avenue if Your Plot is in Phase 1 and almost developed you may wait, These investment still have good Room to grow.
Grand Avenue have Some land Acquisition issue in phase 2, They have overbooking and may not give possession soon, Another option for you can be to sell it and switch to AWT2 or Sigas 2 in Possession areas.
If I don't have cash Flow issue I will wait keeping in mind sale and purchase expenses.

Shah® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:27 PM PST 

Dear Surfer bro
Kindly read my posts again but as an objective observer. You will find answers to your questions there. I have invested twice in priism and exited twice encashing a decent bag of ROI both times. I will invest again in Prism when It is time to invest again. I neither love nor hate prism, or any other phase for that matter.

Jameel bhai has also correctly mentioned that the purpose of this discussion is not to promote or discourage anything. Everything has its own merits and everything has a time of entry and time of exit.

The purpose of this whole discussion is to highlight that entry and exit times needs to be carefully calculated without emotions and affiliations. I gave numerical data in my first post to support my argument. But one cannot see facts and figures if the mind is clouded by emotions.

Anyways, I hope investors in prism and all other phases recover from their losses. My sincere regards to you all!

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:28 PM PST 

@ overseas
Phase 7 5 Merla T Block, @ 55 to 60
Phase 7 10 merla Y Block @ 95 on 150 Road Avene 14,
Phase 7 10 merla Y Block @ 70 one or 2 lines away from BRB
Phase 7 10 merla Y Block @ 62 near Nallah though there is no smell as no Population or Industry at that point.

For 5 Merla you can also Consider DHA Town Phase 9 same Price as that of phase 7 and Located in heart of Prism possession available but population in DHA 7 may be bit faster.

These are all indicative bargain prices. Keeping in view the current market situation.

User_16051® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:30 PM PST 

jameel bhai really appreciate ur knowledge, how u rate suigas-2 in today's difficult times ?

and whats would be guidance for lake city large plots in m2 and m3 from now?? will they give slower gains from here ?

KSA Banker® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 03:46 PM PST 

Dear All, just to second Jameel Sahib's opinion regarding estimated fair prices for Prism one kanal plots, please see below an analysis which I posted few days ago indicating similar results. Hope this helps the potential buyers as well.

Like many of you (followers of this discussion forum), I am a real estate investor and prospective buyer waiting for prices to come down to rational levels before making my intended investment(s). As part of the preparatory work and capitalizing on my limited financial and investment analysis skills, I did a simple simulation to try to estimate “target return based” fair prices for canal plots in Prism today.

The methodology adopted for this simulation is that after a certain number of years (holding period), prism will develop into a mature phase (say like DHA Phase-5 today) and upon reaching such maturity, prices of plots in Prism will be comparable to current prices in Phase-5 adjusted for inflation during the holding period. By assuming certain average inflation rate per year and current estimated prices in Phase-5, we can project the potential prism prices at the end of the holding period. By discounting the value of the plot at the end of the holding period at the target rate of return per year, we can estimate what is maximum price we should pay for the plot today in order to achieve the target rate of return. The development charges yet to be paid are also taken into consideration as additional cost for buyer in this analysis along with transaction costs (agent fees, taxes etc.).

For the sake of this simulation, canal plots in prism are divided into five categories which are (i) best locations, (ii) great locations, (iii) good locations, (iv) average locations and (v) poor locations.

The analysis is done based on US dollar values as inflation rate is more predictable.

Following are the key assumptions for the analysis:
- Current plot prices in Phase-5 for above categories are (i) Best at US$ 355 thousand, (ii) great at US$ 315 thousand, (iii) good at US$ 280 thousand, (iv) average at US$ 240 thousand and (v) poor at US$ 200 thousand
- Annual growth (inflation) of above mature prices is assumed at 2.5%
- Target rate of return is assumed at 10% per year
- Holding period is assumed at 15 years (estimated time for Prism to reach the maturity level in which Phase-5 is today)
Based on the above assumptions, the maximum prices (including transaction charges) which may be rational to pay today for the five categories of plots in Prism to achieve the target return are estimated as (i) best at US$ 110 thousand, (ii) great at US$ 95 thousand, (iii) good at US$ 85 thousand, (iv) average at US$ 70 thousand and (v) poor at US$ 56 thousand.
I thought of sharing the above analysis with other readers of this forum with the hope that it may help other potential buyers like me to make a bit more informed and rational decision based on some degree of analysis

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 06:07 PM PST 

True KSA Banker, I don't how your post skipped my eyes last time.
User 16051, If Slump Prolongs 2,3 ys then Lake City will slowly inch up as possession is there and people started making homes.

Sui gas will have a modest reverse like 3,4 Lac till possession is not there the moment electricity issue is solved it will jump about 10 lac, My experience of IEP gas issue 2010, Tariq Gardens Gas issue 2010 , State cement sewage issue 1998 [now called Iqbal avenue1], PIA sewage issue 2006, all these issues are meant to be sorted, but you have to wait. Same will happen to NFC2.

Kamal Baig® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 09:15 PM PST 

AOA
Jameel sb

I was sale out my 10 marla plot of NFC2 F block on 28.5 lac cost of land in start of this year and purchased 5 Malra in best location in EMC on 23 lac , which is now near 33 lac. Please tell me now what will best time to enter again in NFC2?

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:25 PM PST 

You mean KEMC??
Best time in NFC is when this admin will change they are afraid of Audit, I think Like Valencia Registrar Cooperatives should appoint its member to rectify their sate of Affairs, The Only Issue in NFC2 is that they are short of Money to develop and that is natural, development Cost in 2005 and 2016 cat be 6 lac. There are no other serious issues,

Kamal Baig® replied on Saturday, September 17, 2016 11:18 PM PST 

thanks for reply ....

EMC means bahria education and medical city

have you in mind any other option (in 35 lac) or I remain there in EMC for some time ?

Jameel Mughal® replied on Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:04 AM PST 

Adil, Any rate below 35 will be Good, go for allocation file and intend should be long term holding, minimum 5,7 years. keep in mind that smaller cities are more affected by slump and rate of population is slow.
other investment with similar Budget is DHA Phase 9 prism J Block good Locations, At the end of 7 years both could give you same ROI, In prism you will pay 9X75K development, and Multan yo will pay 1.6 to 1.9 Million development Charges.

User_12115® replied on Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:43 AM PST 

@Jameel sb..
I beg to differ, small cities see less slump and history is evident of it.
neither of any slump in last few decades effected markets like Multan. Their growth was lesser than lahore but when lahore fell, Multan market held on to its prices.
You can compare Multan Cantonment prices of those times - they are still higher than Lahore cantonment as it is considered a posh area and available land is limited.

Bilal® replied on Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:43 PM PST 

I like Jameel sb's sincere opinions! No strings attached:)


His advised properties gained better.

Uber replied on Sunday, September 18, 2016 03:45 PM PST 

Jameel sb, I would be keen to get in touch with you. Is there a way I could get some sort of contact/email

IM786® replied on Sunday, September 18, 2016 05:52 PM PST 

Yes Plz jameel Sb give ur email address if u would like to.
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Friday, September 9, 2016 09:58 PM PST  Reply: >

NFC2
Dear LRE and Forum Members who are active in that area, what is Cost of Land of 100 feet Road plot in NFC2, and same in Suigas

Lahore 56® replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 10:51 PM PST 

I bought in 58 lakh on 100 feet road(cost of land)this week in nfc2.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:45 AM PST 

Lahore 56 Thanks, 100' Road between which Blocks

Lahore 56® replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 02:06 AM PST 

F,block.

umerjee replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 09:11 AM PST 

@Lahore 56®.dear if i am not wrong the plot u bought is near 140 F.

Lahore Real Estate replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 02:26 PM PST 

Dear Jameel Sb,

NFC 2 cost of land on 100 feet road is 55 to 60 lacs.

Sui gas 2 100 feet road 65 to 70 lacs ( All Dues Clear ).


Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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Friday, September 9, 2016 03:13 PM PST  Reply: >

PROTEST FOR DEVELOPMENT IN NFC 2
The members of NFC 2 Housing Society Lahore recorded their protest in front of NFC SOCIETY OFFICE on 6-9-2016. On 7-9-2016, newspapers Daily Din and Daily Nawa e waqt reported the same protest.

The members also created a FACEBOOK page namely "NFC Housing Society Phase 2 Lahore" to streamline collective efforts for the betterment and development of NFC 2 Lahore. All the members are invited to join this page to join the hands.

sultan replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 03:21 PM PST 

Right direction we should take it serous

SHAHZAD20® replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 03:28 PM PST 

ALL members of NFC2 housing society Lahore are requested to please join the above said FACEBOOK page

Jameel Mughal® replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 03:44 PM PST 

i Think holders of NFC2 Should Join together to Protest against Current Admin of NFC, and Put pressure on Court which is extending their stay, These People are afraid of going to Jail for Petty Corruption which they did, That is why they are afraid if new admin will take over.

Imran replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 05:01 PM PST 

Perhaps this is the only way left to get the development work done. All the affecties of NFC 2 should reach the and attend the Next month hearing at Lahore High Court...... The Court has issued stay order on elections and is not listening the case since 6 months

umerjee replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 09:25 PM PST 

I think next hearing is on 19 october.
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Thursday, September 8, 2016 03:22 PM PST  Reply: >

Dear LRE,

Please suggest, What is the best buy at this time within budget of 50Lakh.

Thanks/Regards

Bilal® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 03:28 PM PST 

I would wait till end of October.

Below are the options that you go far. Choose the plot size which is in your range

For short term
Bahria Orchard
Lake City
DHA 7 Upper 5

for long term
Prism
Sui gas 2
NFC 2

Lahore Real Estate replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 03:36 PM PST 

Dear Mr Siddiqui,


In your budget Below are the best options for you

DHA Phase 10 (10 Marla File )
DHA Multan ( 1 Kanal File )
DHA Phase 8 IVY Green ( 5 Marla Plot )
NFC Phase 2 ( 1 Kanal Plot )
Lake City ( 5 Marla Plot )



Lahore Real Estate
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Kaashif replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 04:59 PM PST 

Dear LRE Team,

I heard that Final hearing against the NFC2 Election is on 4th October... is it right?

Please also guide what would be the hold period of NFC2 Plot

Thanks

Lahore Real Estate replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:59 PM PST 

Dear Mr Kaashif,


No, 4 October is not confirm date.

Its right time to sell the plot, because now its on peak price and coming days it can be expected that prices comes down.If you want to sell your plot so do it.Choice is yours.


Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM

Unregistered replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 06:57 PM PST 

I could not understand why you are suggesting me to buy NFC2 if it has already taken the maximum value ??? As on the same post you are assisting one guy to buy this and on the other hand you are asking another guy to sale it as it upto max level :)

I am new in this forum but what I have understood that it is useless to ask questions as the answers are not fruitful.

Aseem replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 07:32 PM PST 

Dear Sir....in the same thread of discussion you are advising that its the best time for selling and buying NFC2.....kindly explain further...i have K87 10 marla..should i hold or sell?

Kaashif replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:57 PM PST 

i m totally agreed with " Unregistered ".
couldn't understand the point...

advising one person to buy becaz of low budget and other to sell becaz it has already reached the maximum point...
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Touseef 
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Sunday, September 4, 2016 01:19 PM PST  Reply: >

Sir please tell me value of my plot in nfc2 218H.
Thnx

Lahore Real Estate replied on Monday, September 5, 2016 10:57 AM PST 

Dear Mr Touseef,


Market price of your plot near H 218 is around 30 to 31 lacs.



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SHAHZAD20® 
City & Country:
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Thursday, September 1, 2016 09:41 PM PST  Reply: >

Dear Friends please discuss NFC 2 MULTAN ROAD LAHORE. AND RING ROAD SOUTHERN LOOP 3 UPDATES

Adnan_Ali® replied on Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:17 PM PST 

its better to search this forum old posts related with NFC2 and u will get better understanding of this project.

no development and no hope in near future. Corrupt management of NFC Society which always takes stay order against society elections.

Even if SL3 will complete which is direct of its approach, it will not cause big gain. Real Gain will happen only when development will start there.
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Ali 
City & Country:
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Thursday, September 1, 2016 04:24 PM PST  Reply: >

Low Cost Plots
Hi Experts,

I dont know why people get elergic when someone talks about the low cost societies, The brokers I guess only want to deal in big societies and with the new taxes, I am a bit scared about that.


I wish to go for low cost plots and would like to seek guidance from the people. Thanks



NFC2
Chanir Bagh
Sui Gas
Rehman Garden
Motorway City

These are the options which I am thinking and seek help from the experts.

Regards,
Atif

Haroon_16® replied on Thursday, September 1, 2016 04:32 PM PST 

The options you have mentioned, only LMC seems reasonably good. But in low budget you must consider Grand Avenues possession plots and Bahria EMC. They are possession plots too, in low budget, without taxes.

anticipation@ replied on Thursday, September 1, 2016 05:18 PM PST 

Current Lake city price 5 marla for 50 is too much high in current scenario.

How one will prefer 5 marla lake city over prism 5 marla good location at 40+9dc=49?

Prism is far better than lake city newly announced prices from perspective of location, status of development, repute, standard of living and quality of infrastructure.

Invest in prism 5 marla now and then switch to
DHA 10 when the kanal file price falls below 50 which is highly likely in 2017-18 !!!!

MSR replied on Thursday, September 1, 2016 06:45 PM PST 

Out of these NFC 2 and SuiGas are the best options. You have to be patient with these investments (as they are long term) however will give extra ordinary returns.

Waseem® replied on Thursday, September 1, 2016 09:42 PM PST 

Priority wise it should be
Sui Gas (Sui gas has almost full infrastructure, road, sewerage etc, only electricity awaited. At the moment only A block has possession. Prices on the rise day by day.

Chinar Bagh
Earlier blocks fully developed & construction of houses started, prices are very attractive.

NFC2
In stand still position for many years now. awaiting development, hence should be least priority.


Not sure about these, never visited them.
Rehman Garden
Motorway City

Reality replied on Friday, September 2, 2016 06:18 AM PST 

I think same question again and again with different names so some one is not asking for himself but want to promote his investment

Ali replied on Friday, September 2, 2016 09:33 AM PST 

@anticipation - Sir I am looking for low budget investments and 50 lac is reasonable one. Have to find few options with 20-30 lac.

@Waseem sb - Thanks, sounds good advice. I would like to visit Sui Gas/NFC2 and Chinar Bagh over this weeekend.

@Reality - Sir, I have not yet invested in property but would go for low cost societies.

Thanks
Ali

Adnan_Ali® replied on Friday, September 2, 2016 09:51 AM PST 

It seems that lot of people/dealers promoting their society by first asking a dummy Question - asking Opinion and then replying same Question by different name.

Its not a good approach of marketing. People are not stupid.

Haroon_16® replied on Friday, September 2, 2016 02:27 PM PST 

@Reality
@Adnan_Ali Who are you both referring to? Please use clear names if you think so.

Waseem® replied on Friday, September 2, 2016 09:09 PM PST 

@Adnan Ali

Ali posted twice but same name, so no harm in giving opinion, there is no promotion here, just opinions asked & opinions given on an open forum. No one is here forcing anyone to buy or not to buy. People just don't get excited on opinions, unless there is something concrete & besides property market these days is slow, these opinions will hardly make any difference.

Ali replied on Monday, September 5, 2016 05:11 PM PST 

@Waseem Sb - Thanks a lot, you have written what I am thinking, really interesting.


I am confused, why people only like to discuss DHA/Bahria? While poor man like me dont afford a single plot in those societies....and people dont like to give opinion on cheap societies. Strange ...


Thanks
Ali

Waseem® replied on Monday, September 5, 2016 08:00 PM PST 

I have been through the same situation as you. All you need is to spare time & explore small societies along major societies. There are often hidden gems close to major societies. Even small investment in a street close to any major society will impact nearby land. & whenever, you invest, buy good location plot, prefer good location small size over bad location bigger size.
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Ali 
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Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:31 PM PST  Reply: >

Motorway City - NFC Phase 2
Hello Experts,

I am going to visit Pakistan in next few months and would like to invest 10M in two options.

Please let me know which is the most suitable option?

Motorway City
Bahria
Sui Gas 2
NFC Phase 2


Regards,
Ali

Arif M® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 02:45 PM PST 

As far as I have heard, Motorway City and NFC2 are currently flop projects. I wonder why you highlighted them in your post title !!

AliAwan® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:05 PM PST 

Agreed with Arif Sahib, no comparison of Bahria with them, your first option should be Bahria and then sui gas

FAA.awan® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 03:52 PM PST 

Bahria is matchless ,all above mentioned projects are nothing before Bahria town.Motorway city and Nfc2 are almost failed and badly managed by the developers.

FAA.awan® replied on Thursday, September 1, 2016 01:57 AM PST 

I think you have already invested in NFC2 or motorway city.If not ,then go for Nfc2 or motorway city and trap your investment,acorrding to your Sweet will.One thing should be kept in mind,deliverance and feedback of your investment is the key of success,no matter it is one man show or 100 men's.Rest depend on you.

Haadi replied on Friday, September 2, 2016 12:32 AM PST 

A also consider jalil gardens...excellent location and great future
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ABU ARYAN® 
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Wednesday, August 31, 2016 01:55 AM PST  Reply: >

Who will be the winner in short term?
Considering 1 year investment span, ROI winner would be?

- Audit & Accounts 2
- Suigas 2
- Lake City
- Central Park

User_PK9549® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:01 AM PST 

suigas2 with following advantages:

1. Electricity
2. Ring road
3. Connection with bahria

&

3. Possession

KK® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:24 AM PST 

rightly said by user...more jumps expected in suigas-2 and all jumps within a span of 1 to 1.5 years. Possession given in Block A & B only as i know

Adv. replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:46 AM PST 

AWT phase 2
Bahria Orchard

Arif M® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:08 AM PST 

1- Central Park (safe option)
2- Suigas2 ( IF electricity possession issues resolved that are unlikely)

Not aware about A&A
Lake City will see some correction or remain stable

umerjee replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 01:25 PM PST 

central park

AliAwan® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 01:43 PM PST 

Depends on your budget, there is hugh difference in prices of suigas2, lakecity, central park and A&A2. My personal opinion is that ROI at current rates would be as follow:

suigas2, (normal society, lower rates)

Lake city (Very good society but already gone up so ROI would be low now)

A&A2 (poor society, but very low rates and hugh difference in prices give hugh room for increase due to ring road)

Central Park (normal society already gained a lot, no apparent reason for further increase other then normal increase)

Khalid Javed® replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 02:06 PM PST 

Sui gas 2

Habib replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 02:59 PM PST 

Audit and Account No due to very poor Foundation and development work
Sui gas yes
Lake City yes after a short term correction
Central Park may be
NFC2 can be a Big Hit if they will Complete development That I all Financial issue and needs Solution in their General Body Meeting after election

AWT 2 Kanal Plots will reverse about 15% from this point

Rana Atta Muhammad replied on Wednesday, August 31, 2016 07:23 PM PST 

Audit & Accounts 2 as it falls on Lahore Ring Road Southern Loop which is going to complete within one year.
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Zafar Shah 
City & Country:
Lahore
Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:38 PM PST  Reply: >

Evaluation of 10 marla plot near 192 C of NFC 2
Attention. Mian Waqas of LR E
Kindly evaluate my 10 Marla plot # 193 in C block of NFC2. I shall be grateful. Regards

Lahore Real Estate replied on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 02:03 PM PST 

Dear Mr Zafar,

Current price of your plot near C 193 is around 32 lacs ( cost of land ).


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Kaashif Ch 
City & Country:
Pakistan
Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:23 AM PST  Reply: >

NFC2 Lahore Ring Road map
Lahore Ring Road Passing through NFC2

habib replied on Friday, August 26, 2016 12:21 AM PST 

Is it the most current?

ali123 replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:12 AM PST 

Kindly write in detail
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Kaashif Ch 
City & Country:
Pakistan
Wednesday, August 24, 2016 03:16 PM PST  Reply: >

Required Advise
Dear CMY Sb,

i heard that final decision on NFC2 Election is on 19 October ... Is it right?.
Please advise me shall I sale my plot of 1 Kanal in A Block on 100 Feet Road, I have checked the map, it is safe from Ring Road..

Abdul basit replied on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 03:44 PM PST 

Dear kashif plz share the RR map for NFC phase 2 or mention plots which are falling in ring road . Thanks

Imran replied on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:00 PM PST 

19th October is the next date of hearing at Lahore High Court.... What happens on 19th Only God Knows, A new date???? or a decision?????

Kashif replied on Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:13 AM PST 

i am trying to upload the picture. but its not uploading....

Kaashif replied on Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:14 AM PST 

I m trying to upload picture, but its not uploading...

Kaashif replied on Thursday, August 25, 2016 12:26 AM PST 

I have upload the pic...

Lahore Real Estate replied on Friday, August 26, 2016 02:20 PM PST 

Dear Mr Kaashif,

Election discussion is still under the court.

Its right time to sell, because prices goes down in coming days.Choice is yours.

Mian Waqas
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Email:INFO@LREPK.COM

Abdul basit replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 04:24 PM PST 

Thanks Kashif

Rabbani replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 05:38 PM PST 

I came to know that LDA officials has freez the office of NFC and taken over the charge. Plz guide
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Hashim® 
City & Country:
Lahore
Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:24 PM PST  Reply: >

52000
AOA Awan Sb, Kureshi sb and Sufer

Bahria Orchard off ground plots are safe for the investment purpose one of my freind has 3.5 M cash in hand. He want to invest it. Pl tell me the safe and best possible option in this range.

Thanks Jazakallah

User_9325® replied on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:43 PM PST 

Not at all safe. however if yu want to gamble, go for it as if those become on ground then yu will hit a jack pot. more risk more gain. personally if I had 3.5 mill I would go for some dha file as it is issued against some land and is a lot safer option then private developers map only plot for which there is no land in hand

FAA.awan® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 01:08 AM PST 

Dear Hashim, Bahria Orchard off ground plots as safe as on ground are.These plots are full of potential within 1 year .There are stronge chances to develop these plots within this year as Bahria town working machinery is free now a days and a little chance of new cutting in near future.Bahria orchard almost has all required land. No tension of any sort,a on ground plot will be awarded by Bahria town at any cost. D block 5m off ground plots near D ext. and C block off ground are excellent for investment point of view as tax free zone,Orchard LCO blocks .Try to catch any possible location in this slow and low priced period.I believe property is still unmatchable winner,there is no alternate to it, no doubt it is hard time,but it will be a great winner at last.Critics:write down my words.Best of luck.thanks

Kureshi® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 09:37 AM PST 

Hashim sb, bahria orchard is now BT lahore head Quarter and their darling. I am pretty sure they will honor all hr plots and expand in this area. Given the challenges I seriously doubt they will disappoint anyone any more as already they are facing challenges in khi and sector F in Bahria town Lahore.

If you still want to be sure , tey installment plot of 8 Marla in D ext and orchard 3 where u do not have to pay all the amount upfront.

Having said that , there is very less chance that one will not get a plot against any allowed no.

User_12596® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:14 AM PST 

He can easily get a plot in J block with adding 2, 3 lakh, it the best option to invest, safe and secure 100%

Hashim® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:42 AM PST 

Thanku Awan Sb and Kureshi Sb for your great views and Ideas. I knew it very well, there is no match of development with Bahria & Other Private Developers, even DHA cant match with their development pace and Land-scaping which is extra ordinarily Good.

But i was confused that why some pockets are left behind by Bahria in C Block which is the main heart of Bahria Orchard, it think its ma matter of few weeks for Bahria to On-ground that area, but from last one year, it is as it it. Can you please highlight whats the thinking behind bahira to leave some pockets in OLC-B & OLC-C.

Thanx 12596 for your views as well.

User_9325® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:51 AM PST 

they left it bcoz they dont have the land.. simple. I am holding a plot on map in sector F alamgir block bahria for last 4 years. till date there is no development and bahria is not interested in buying either as I have surveyed the area. land is available but bahria isnt buying as they have taken money from us and there is no charm left for them. plz plz plz only buy on ground property in bahria. im telling this from my personal painful experience. i have no other agenda. If I can help someone to avoid the kind of suffering that I have endured from bahria then may be Allah can help me to.

Hashim® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:59 AM PST 

User_9325. You are absolutely right as being the affectee of Sector F, but the situation in Bahria Orchard is i think so different, as in front of their Bahria Head Office there are green lands, how its possible they have not bought a land, which is the main Hub of Bahria Orchard.

One point is also that from last one year both On ground and Off ground prices increased day by day, but in your case of Alamgir Block Prices are stagnant and everyone knows there is still no land acquired by Bahria.

Arif M® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:00 AM PST 

Considering the current state of affairs, it is recommended to go for only on-ground plots.

User_9325® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 11:11 AM PST 

ok then.. brace yurself. please visit sector f area also. yu will see plenty of agri land standing. thing is that bahria has sold these plots. now price of on ground has gone up many folds. so trick is that bahria will wait until people like me get dissappointed and sell our holdings in throw away prices. Most likely bahria will buy back those plots thru its dealers and when they will have a higher chunk of those plots, they will buy land and develop the area and re sell those plots in double prices. if yu have nerves of steel to wait for so long then its yur decision

IM786® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:35 PM PST 

Totally agreed with user9325. In bahria only buy onground plot.land for sector F is available but bahria not buying from farmers as they are adking for 2-2.5 cror per acre. Same can be the case with area infeont of bahria headoffice. Also pockets in any socity are really diff to purchase. Farmers know the map of socity and wants to dictate. Onother hand bahria shd buy land before floating map. Sector F map was floated without land. Regarding Hashim sb: plz note that sector F file prices has increased from 36lac(in Nov 15) to 55 lac as of know. So price increase is a common thing. When actual plot price increase as a ripple effect unground file orice also increases.
Plz everyone save yourself. Bahria greens was floated 3 yrs back. Bahria used people money and now after 3 yrs return back through cheques the same amount to people saying they couldnt arrange land.

Hashim® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 01:17 PM PST 

IM786. Your comments / arguments from June 02, 16 and Aug 18, 2016 varies a lot. Pl see it :-).

Nadem:i cant tell the exact numbers but as per plan of ring road all the plots under the 100ft road are safe. By under the 100ft road i mean if 100ft is center line then the plots towards facing sector F Or towards NFC2.
@Haider: Brother MR is under great pressure to deliver remaining sector F. And when i say MR it means MR in true sense no any other bahria official. Remaining plots of sector F will be delivered within 1 yr. MR said 6 months but approx 1 yr is enough. Now regarding investing, for 3 yrs holding its a good opportunity bcz bad time has past. Investing depends on ur budget. But aziz bhatti and tariq bin ziyad has more margin to grow but risk is location unknown. Now i think if u can buy something in alamgir block it will be good return in 2-3 yrs. In alamgir some plots are near 70 and some are near 55+. The difference is plots with 70 has land and bahria is developing it to deliver with 3-4 months. While the plots with price 55+ bahria is in negotiations to buy pockets of land and didnt start the development yet.

Szaidi® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:57 PM PST 

What is the current status of Sikandar block & Shersha block in Sector F . Are they on ground or off ground. Any development work is there or not. I heard sheikh Saadi is total off ground. Is it correct.

IM786® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 03:14 PM PST 

Hashim sb yes its my comments. Actually MR agreed to resolve the issue at the earliest. He promised to give map of tariq bin ziyad and aziz bhatti by 10th ramdhan which he couldnt. We were thinking that MR will full fill his promise this time. But he didnt. he lied once again. If u see my june comment i said location is unknown for tariq and aziz bhatti blocks. Furthermore i wrote the reason why there is diff in files proces in same block(alamgir block). Thats why i suggesting others to be careful now. Only buy where u r sure about land.
Sikandar block dev is under progress. Bahria promised to deliver by 15 jul but still it will take almost 4-5 months. Alamgir new cutting plots balloted on 15 march (As mentioned in my june post) has land available and development will start within weeks. I again saying only small portion of alamgir block. Its land is available
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Javed 
City & Country:
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Tuesday, August 16, 2016 02:29 PM PST  Reply: >

Dear LRE, my request for evaluation of following plots

lake city m7b 220
D 180 nfc 2

Regards

Lahore Real Estate replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 02:54 PM PST 

Dear Javed Sb,

NFC-2 near D 180 market value is around 44 to 45 lacs (cost of land).

Plot near M7B 220 is in the region 40 lacs.


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mukhtar replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:14 PM PST 

kindly evalute plot price of C-17 one kanal of NFC-2

latif replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:51 PM PST 

Pls also evaluate G731 NFC2. Thanks

Lahore Real Estate replied on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:15 AM PST 

Dear Mukhtar Sb,

Plot near C 17 is still worth around 50 lacs ( cost of land ).


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Lahore Real Estate replied on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:16 AM PST 

Dear Latif Sb,

Plot near G 731 is in the region 43 lacs ( cost of land ).


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O.S 
City & Country:
Pakistan
Tuesday, August 16, 2016 09:24 AM PST  Reply: >

Investment of 10 to 12 Million Rupees
Hello Everyone,

I am overseas Pakistani and planning to invest 10 to 12 million PK rupees in next 1 month for investment purpose for almost 3 to 5 years. I have no idea of how to buy property in Lahore? How tax system works? Not sure if I should invest all my hard earn money in one property or multiple small properties?

I would like to have some input from my brothers for their sincere, honest and expert advice? Also I understand that there is kind of slump in market or it may be slow now not sure; but anyone advice would be highly appreciated. Also if anyone can provide me his phone number so that once arrive in Lahore, I can contact him for further help. Thanks
O.S

MALIK® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 09:44 AM PST 

I think you should contact LRE the number is on the top of this website, you can buy one kanal reasonable location and leave some money for development charges, as you are overseas DHA 9 would be best as it is safe and you wont have to worry about anything.

Mehmood ali replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:06 AM PST 

Now a days investment in property are big risk. Big Slump in property business. Stay away and mark my words.

alpha replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:20 AM PST 

If you go through this forum and follow folks like Mr. Jameel Mughal ( fundament value long term investor), Mr CMY ( DHA Realtor), Mr Shah ( suave investor) , prism lovers, southies ( LRR lovers), you can get first level of orientation.

sparkie replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:20 AM PST 

If you go through this forum and follow folks like Mr. Jameel Mughal ( fundament value long term investor), Mr CMY ( DHA Realtor), Mr Shah ( suave investor) , prism huggers, southies ( LRR huggers), you can get first level of orientation.

AhmetKildir® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:55 AM PST 

O. S. Don't pay too much attention to these unregistered posters trying to create panic. They are kids thinking they can disrupt the market with such childish remarks.

Invest in either a well located plot in Prism.

Or if you want to buy multiple properties with that money invest in 1 Kanal gujranwala + 1 Kanal multan + 1 Kanal bahawalpur with that money.

Both options will at least double your money in 2-3 years inshalla.

Stay away from mature properties like dha phases 1-6 and 8 as there is very little juice left in them.

In non dha, invest in on ground bahria or on ground lake city plots. Always keep a look out for underpriced investments in nfc2, fazaia or bahria orchard.

I'm nowadays investing in office space in Gulberg. Something new that I have never done before. I'll see if it was a good idea but I'd know only after two years. Will share with all. See ya.

Ali replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:11 AM PST 

Mehmood Ali pls dont spread unnecessary rumors and negativity. grow up.

Mehmood ali replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:21 AM PST 

Ali bhai one may differ my opinion. I send my opinion as honestly. You can feel it today's work in property business offices after taxes.

User_19995® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:44 AM PST 

Property investment in the long term is never a risk.

If some land is worth 1 million after some years double surely as demand of house construction is increasing and still a big gap in supply of houses still present in pak.

You will never see value coming down after some years.

Other thing is that this taxes may affect for short term or people who wants big profit in few months not for O.S who wants to invest for 5 years.

Arif M® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:32 PM PST 

Even though is there is kind of slowness in market or call it slump if you like but in longer term (2+years) prices will increase. However, you should also understand thay the gains will not be as good as in past 3-4 years. I am saying this because even CMY has mentioned that it was first doze of taxes of from now on we should increased taxes very year end by FBR. This factor will impact property growth in longer term as well and it will not be no more an attractive investment as before. Considering all factors if you have no other choices then you should go for 1 kanal DHA9 plot. But think hard before taking any decision.

Asad-Ali replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 01:12 PM PST 

Although current situation is not as good as it was few months ago. however comparing with other options like stock exchange/currency/Gold/Mutual funds/banks profit, property is still better than all these ones.

My Suggestion, diversify , do not put all at 1 place but small 5/8/10 marlas or if DHA Multan does not announced its launch soon,i will see its 1 kanal file price will reduce near to 36-38 Lakh range. which is still attractive to buy.

Asif Sardar ® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 01:13 PM PST 

The Market is slow and there might some slump expected .. Am also waiting to see the new scenario, following three are expected for until at least next 3 months.
1) The prices may fell down (Chances are very low)
2) The prices may get stagnant / on hold (Chances are very high)
3):Prices may increased little bit but get crazily high like last few months. (Chances are fair)

In all above scenario, Buyers will get advantage.
My suggestion is wait for another one two months and let the market stable on some point and then invest.

For 03-5 years with a Budget of 10-12 mio.
I would suggest to split investment in one Kannal file in multan, one kanal in DHA Gujranwala.
If doensnt wana get involve in file then invest in DHA Ivy green 8 or DHA 9.

Asif Sardar ® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 01:17 PM PST 

Correction : Point No 03: Prices may increased little bit but NOT get crazily high like last few months. (Chances are fair)
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The good time for buyers is when the market is slow or not moving.So in my point of view ; take a break of 1-2 months and then buy.
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I am not dealer and not in favor of any property scenario up or down. just gave my candid views only.

Asif replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 01:18 PM PST 

Correction : Point No 03: Prices may increased little bit but NOT get crazily high like last few months. (Chances are fair)
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The good time for buyers is when the market is slow or not moving.So in my point of view ; take a break of 1-2 months and then buy.
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I am not dealer and not in favor of any property scenario up or down. just gave my candid views only.

User_19995® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 04:10 PM PST 

Totally agreed with Asif bhai about the investment plan suggested above for 5 years of for files options.

Also you can invest in DHA multan 1 kanal with other in Lahore in
DHA 7 or DHA 9 with 10 M.

This will more beneficial in coming 3 to 5 years.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 04:21 PM PST 

One of the biggest challenge Lahore will be facing in coming future is supply of vegetables on affordable rates. Due to rapid but unplanned growth of residential as well as industrial area arround city we ve eliminated supplies close to city but we are not alone to face this challenge, all big cities facing same. Urban farming is a solution for this, the one who will setup such business first will earn name and gem. Modern cities already planned & moving towards vertical farming. Imagine you buy one KANAL & get production equal to one acre and buy one acre and get production equal to 25 acre. With this budget you can buy land close to Lahore and start business. When & where you will apply technogy, you will earn.

Adnan_Ali® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 04:49 PM PST 

Ahmad Bhai, you are Genius, I am big fan of you for your ideas.
It seems that people are mostly afraid of taking risk in investing in new ideas which could be low Risk and high Gains. I do not know why people do this, we should encourage such ideas and implement.

Since its property forum, thats why you face big opposition (conflict of interests), otherwise we need people like you

HassanHC® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 06:17 PM PST 

Long term investors always win in Lahore. Last 70 yrs have seen ppl investing in Lahore have proved that, so many slumps might have come in between.

In this budget best option is DHA PRISM LAHORE ONE KANAL since you are buying first time. DHA PRISM Lahore is most safe worry free investment inshallah.

alia replied on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 07:39 AM PST 

I recently bought one acre on bedian road but don't know what and how to use it for some income, brothers and sisters please advise and guide,jazaak Allah kier.

Lahore Real Estate replied on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 02:02 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Prism & IVY Green is a good option for 3 to 5 years.



Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK
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azam khan 
City & Country:
lahore
Monday, August 15, 2016 08:02 AM PST  Reply: >

plot evaluations for nothing
there is absolutely no activity in dha office as i have visited on Friday....there is no notification of taxes received....so m confused how lre team is evaluating prices when there is no activity and no dealing going on

Mehmood ali replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 08:26 AM PST 

Lahore team prices are not justify as no byers in market. I am trying to sale my prism H kanal since last one month but not received single offer.

M Akbar replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 08:31 AM PST 

I am surprised where are sale purchase in dha? No activities any all but here everyone says very good. Team offer very high prices butwhen say to sale
The result of taxes on market are too big.

M Arshad Ali® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 10:33 AM PST 

I asked LRE to sell my dha rahbar phase 2 file but there is no offer for the last one month but price has been increased from 32 lac to 32.50 lacs

saima replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 10:57 AM PST 

They r in denial of the real situation, no one is buying to avoid heavy taxes and hassle of proving source of money .ishaq Dakar has been successful in snatching the bread and butter of thousands a.may he n Nora league rot in hell.

test replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 11:10 AM PST 

test cannot post

test replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 11:10 AM PST 

We need realistic market direction

test replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 11:13 AM PST 

Where are Jamil Mugal an Habeeb

Waqas Dubai replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 11:38 AM PST 

Means ground reality is differ than this online world...

Adv. replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 12:43 PM PST 

There are no buyers in the market and a lot of sellers. Prices on internet shows the picture of pre-taxation period. Now, things have changed. In other words, a real buyer can get plots on much reduced prices whereas according to internet the prices are rather increased. Ground reality is different than internet.

User_1745® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 03:09 PM PST 

Dear LRE,

We are also missing your graphs on the number of buyers and sellers in the market?

This graph should be a part of your weekly if not daily update. I hope all other brothers support this idea too.

Sincerely, Syed

Bahria replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 05:33 PM PST 

I echo with the above friends, even I wanted to sell my plot but almost a month now didn't get any single offer. There's a something wrong!!!

Kaleem khan replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 10:16 PM PST 

Lhr team request for fair price instead of fake. Ground position are much difference.
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umair 
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Friday, August 12, 2016 06:12 PM PST  Reply: >

Kindly evaluate price of j 29 one kanal plot on 100feet road oposit main park nfc2

Mian Waqas replied on Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:54 AM PST 

Dear Umair Sb,


Market price near J 29 is around 60 lacs (cost of land).



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Saqib 
City & Country:
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Tuesday, August 9, 2016 07:59 PM PST  Reply: >

Can you please evaluate NFC2 10 marla near 588 G?

Mian Waqas replied on Wednesday, August 10, 2016 03:38 PM PST 

Dear Saqib Sb,

Your plot near G 588 can be sold around 33 lacs ( cost of land ).

Mian Waqas
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Lahore Real Estate
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KSA® 
City & Country:
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Monday, August 1, 2016 10:32 AM PST  Reply: >

Please evaluate current rate
Nfc2. J 402 & F 45

Mian Waqas replied on Monday, August 1, 2016 10:53 AM PST 

Dear Sir,

Plot near J 402 can be sold at 27 lacs ( cost of land ).

The market value near F 45 is around 40 lacs ( cost of land ).



Mian Waqas
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replied on Monday, August 1, 2016 02:36 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Please evaluate my one canal plot 336 B (facing Park) in NFC phase 2.

Regards

kamran replied on Monday, August 1, 2016 05:49 PM PST 

dear waqas sab please evaluate my nfc2 1 kanal plot 111 E block

kamran123 replied on Monday, August 1, 2016 05:54 PM PST 

dear plz evaluate my nfc2 1 kanal 111 E block

Mian Waqas replied on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:56 AM PST 

Dear Kamran Sb,

NFC 2 near E 111 can be sold around 46 lacs (cost of land ).



Mian Waqas
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Mian Waqas replied on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:57 AM PST 

Dear Sir,

Market price near B 336 is around 46 lacs ( cost of land ).


Mian Waqas
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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KSA® 
City & Country:
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Friday, July 29, 2016 02:09 PM PST  Reply: >

Please evaluate current rate
Nfc2. Block J. Plot 396 facing park and corner

Mian Waqas replied on Friday, July 29, 2016 02:43 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Your plot near J 396 ( facing park ) is still worth around
28 to 29 lacs ( cost of land )



Mian Waqas
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Ali shah replied on Friday, July 29, 2016 04:30 PM PST 

Dear mian waqas evaluate nfc2 39 F 1 kanal

Mian Waqas replied on Friday, July 29, 2016 05:01 PM PST 

Dear Ali Sb,

Your plot near F 39 is close to 45 lacs ( cost of land )



Mian Waqas
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Abdul Basit 1 replied on Saturday, July 30, 2016 10:45 AM PST 

Dear main Waqas evaluate nfc2 D-87 1 kanal corner

Mian Waqas replied on Saturday, July 30, 2016 02:45 PM PST 

Dear Basit Sb,

Market value near D 87 is around 45 lacs ( cost of land ).



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usman42 
City & Country:
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Wednesday, July 27, 2016 08:21 PM PST  Reply: >

price evaluation
kindly evaluate the current market price of following plots
plot 576 D and 444 F in LDA avenue 1
plot no 407 B in NFC2

Mian Waqas replied on Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:58 AM PST 

Dear Usman Sb,

NFC 2 evaluation near B 407 is valued around 44 to 45 lacs (cost of land )


Mian Waqas
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Zuhaib Khalid replied on Thursday, July 28, 2016 11:09 AM PST 

Kindly evaluate 1232C LDA Avenue 1

Abdul Basit replied on Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:44 PM PST 

Please evaluate one kanal in nfc phase 2 near D-87

Abdul Basit 2 replied on Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:44 PM PST 

Please evaluate one kanal in nfc phase 2 near D-87
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MSR 
City & Country:
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Wednesday, July 27, 2016 08:05 AM PST  Reply: >

NFC 2 - Current market value
Dear LRE team,

Can you please evaluate current cost of land for this plot.

MSR replied on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 08:07 AM PST 

NFC 2, H block, Plot # 311, 10 marla, facing park

Mian Waqas replied on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:13 AM PST 

Dear Sir,

Your above mentioned plot near H 311 is around 31 lacs ( cost of land )


Mian Waqas
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Abdullah replied on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 05:41 PM PST 

@MSR #311 is not facing park.
May be you meant 211 ??

MSR replied on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 09:11 PM PST 

Thanks Abdullah for highlighting.

LRE team, Can you please evaluate plot # 211, H block, NFC2.

Mian Waqas replied on Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:20 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Your plot near H 211 ( facing park ) is close to 34 lacs ( cost of land)


Mian Waqas
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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usman42 
City & Country:
dammam
Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:54 PM PST  Reply: >

price evaluation
kindly evaluate the current market price of following plots
LDA avenue 576 D and 444 F
NFC2 407 B

Mian Waqas replied on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:15 AM PST 

Dear Usman Sb,

NFC 2 near B 407 is valued around 44 to 45 lacs ( cost of land )


Mian Waqas
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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usman 
City & Country:
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Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:48 PM PST  Reply: >

want evaluation for plot in NFC2 407 B
and in LDA avenue I plot 576 D and 444 F
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Thursday, July 14, 2016 05:30 PM PST  Reply: >

NFC2 society election and development update - any news
Anyone has any update on NFC2 development and Society Elections

LAHORE REAL ESTATE replied on Friday, July 15, 2016 10:29 AM PST 

Dear Sir,

Information about NFC 2 kindly contact Mian Waqas +.He give you latest updated about development and society elections.



LAHORE REAL ESTATE
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Anwaar replied on Monday, July 18, 2016 12:31 AM PST 

Next hearing at high court is 19th October
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Habib 
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Wednesday, June 29, 2016 04:34 PM PST  Reply: >

Just to keep mood elevated
Below is the list of best housing areas of Lahore these were my recommendations one year back, still these recommendation hold true, Just had some one invested in top 5 recommendations gains would be about 70% in one year.

Monday, June 15, 2015 12:47 PM PST
some recommendations
People frequently ask questions for different purposes and getting increasingly confused when see more options or contradicting information.
Here are few recommendation for different Types of need
Investment only one year
Lake City and Keep File open

Investment for 3 Years
DHA 7
Lake City transfer to your name
DHA Phase 8 Ivy Green
Sui Gas 2
Fazaia 1
NFC2 2

Investment for 5 + years
DHA phase 9
DHA Multan
For investment only don’t buy in Phase 8 proper, DHA 6 and DHA 5

For Making Home Kanal Budget 1 Cror
DHA 7, Valencia Compromised Blocks

For Making home Kanal Budget 50 to 55 Lac
Lake City

For Making Home Budget 40 Lac
Central Park and AWT2

For Making 2 Kanal House Budget 170 to 180
DHA phase 7, Y and X Block
For Making 2 Kanal House Budget 80 to 85
IEP sector A
For Making Home 2 Kanal Budget 50 Lac
Chinar Bagh
For Buying 10 Merla House old House best Locations in Lahore Centrally Located
Faisal Town 140
Allama Iqbal Town 140 to 150
DHA Phase 8 Park view 130

All fraud free , free of Disputes, Free of Qabza

Habib

User_528® replied on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 04:58 PM PST 

Great followup, so is the advice for 2016 same or some new projects are in limelight ?

Wajid_30® replied on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 05:31 PM PST 

Yes Habib Sb, how about 2016-18

Siddique® replied on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 06:30 PM PST 

Thank you habib bhai for sharing. I have a plot in M2, its 30% up now. Thanks for your guidance

Please share new recommendations for 2016/2017

omer maan replied on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 06:55 PM PST 

Kindly correcr rate of 2 kanal plot of IEP. lac.

Habib replied on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 07:22 PM PST 

Omer Maan, This post was posted one year back all rates have moved up.

Siddique and Wajid, after posting great gains market will Consolidate for a while but I will Find some underpriced Corners soon, At this level we need to watch very carefully.

Arif M® replied on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 07:57 PM PST 

Habib sb, how do you see Suigas2 and Fazaia II. Have they matured or still under priced? How do you see potential in them for 3 years.

Habib replied on Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:18 PM PST 

Both are matured and will Consolidate gains

Kashif replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 01:21 AM PST 

dear Habib,
How do you see the NFC2? I bought 1 Kanal on 100 feet Road... Shall i hold it or sell it. Please comment,

Kaashif replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 01:22 AM PST 

dear Habib bhai,
How do you see the NFC2? I bought 1 Kanal on 100 feet Road... Shall i hold it or sell it. Please comment,

Jameel Mughal® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 01:51 AM PST 

Kaashif You should hold it

Want to build home replied on Friday, July 8, 2016 05:36 PM PST 

Any further update on NFC2 society elections? Is the Corrupt Judge still sitting on Stay Order without knowing, Almighty Allah Is giving him a chance to correct himself.
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Ahsan® 
City & Country:
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Friday, June 24, 2016 06:08 PM PST  Reply: >

Investment in Grand Avenue & Central Park
As majority of us agree on a fact that investment in underprice socities yield better returns. Secondly, ground realities change with the passage of time as we have witnessed growth in many societies on raiwind road and also on Ferozpur road. As per the current situation, in my opinion Central park is still very underprice and as I mentioned before it is growing due to many factors such as rapid house construction,gated community and easy access on main Ferozpur road. The average location 1 kanal possession plot is avialbale in the range of 65 to 75 lacs which is underprice and it has full potential to fetch another 20 lacs plus in a short term as trend of buying by genuine buyers is growing there. I agree it was neglected by investors but now it is a very attractive society with all the facilities and management is also pouring money on its beautification.

Now, another highly underprice socirty is Grand Avenue. The rate of a plot in near possession and possession range from 32 lacs to 45 lacs. They did alot of development during last few months. It has the best location on Ferozpur road and quality of development is also good.I did investment here based on ground relaities as now the construction has also started there. The following are the positive and Neghative aspects:

1) Ideal Location on main ferozpur road around 2.5 KM before Central Park on opposite side

2) Highly underprice as Bahria NAsheman 5 marls plot is 35-38 lac and the access is nt on main ferozpur road.(around 800 Meters inside).

3) 70 % Development complete in A block and 50 % in B block

4) It is very close to DHA phase 9 Extension if you look at the map.

5) They inaugrated the mosque there

6) Dealers are now active in buying as I recieved calls from Pakistan by few dealers with an offer.

7) Visit the website or visit by yourself then u will realise that perception differs from reality.

Negative:

1) Perception that it is not good

2) Issue with LDA but then it is also with Bahria but they got approval before 2012 from TMA and their case is with LDA and it is expected to get an approval.

It has a huge a potential to gain particularly in 1 kanal with minimum risk of might be bit delay in development.

Conclusion: In my opinion Central Park has alots of potential and price will keep increasing ,similarly Grand Avenue may get a good jump in a short term as 1 kanal in range of 35 lacs easily bring lods of gain. Do some research and observe the growing number of ads in the jang newspaper from dealers who are in need of plots there.

Again, its my observation and I suggest everyone to do a sound research before any decision.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Friday, June 24, 2016 10:48 PM PST 

agreed

Haroon_16® replied on Friday, June 24, 2016 11:00 PM PST 

Extremely glad to see a post like this, for obvious reasons that I too invested in GA. I was interested in CP, but prices went out of range. Here is my analysis as well:

1. CP good location plots were easily available for 3 million about 4 months ago, and the same are now 4.5 million. I had a budget of 3 million, so I went for GA possession plot 10 Marla.

2. The only thing I find about GA is, the trend. I mean, we can get a top location 1 kanal in GA for 4.5 million, but people would still go for 4.5 million 10 marla in CP. I don't understand things like these. People don't pay much attention to realities, more to trend.

3. I called LDA myself, even though I didn't get a clear answer, but they said "GA is interested in getting an approval from us". Now that can mean a few things.

4. No doubt CP is well developed, but for some reason I find GA more attractive. The greenery, the curvy main boulevard, well, I like the overall look of the society. Obviously it's a personal preference but I find it better than CP. Possession has been granted in A block, so why not people go for GA insted of CP, with an average price difference of about 2 million.

5. Yes, since I like GA, but I am only concerned when that trend thing will turn here. I hope it does, sooner rather than later.

6. Also I must say, CP an underpriced society, but not so anymore. I have personally observed a massive jump in prices over the past 6 months. Yes I thing it can grow even further (especially when compare to Raiwind side), but I think the high time of investment has gone.

7. In my view, GA has to post significant gains. Highly underpriced. It is nearly half priced as compared to it's neighbors like CP, Bahria Nasheman and Bahria EMC, still has the best location among all it's neighbors.

Arif M® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 03:00 AM PST 

Ferozepur road societies despite being in central location are still very underpriced. It is simply because there have not been any development projects for this part of city. But sooner or later this road will be further widened. LDA city related projects like us embassy can pave way for development. When the time cones this area will see great gains.

Ehsan® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 03:16 AM PST 

Hi Jameel and Haroon,
there are new deals in central park A1, can you shed some light on that.

where one should buy in grand avenue a or b block and what are rates of 5 and 10 marla there.

as LRE do not deal there, any reputed dealer to get plot there?

CMY replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 06:11 AM PST 

Central Park possession area plots good. Buy them. Other non possession area have major land issues holding development and possessions for over a decade now and must be avoided. Also in last 13 years I cant remember when Central Park management was not booking plots in installments. They opened offices even on Eid days for installment booking. Doubled staf in office at Eid times :) A small developed area with a small medical collage is used as show piece for keep booking and booking and booking more plots that never get developed or delivered but still being booked.

Grand Avenue same story. A very small well standard developed area of few hundreds plots being used for bookings. Only connected people/dealers will get possession in these few hundred plots and rest can keep waiting for over a decade just like Central Park as on back same people that use to run Central Park.

New Lahore City 100% same story as above plus first more land for development in same area is not even possible / available and if available in that area agriculture land cost is more expansive then plots being booked or were booked in past at unbelievably low un realistic prices and those too in installments. Bahria NFC2 Suigas 2 have taken or are fighting for very small land left in that area due to this agriculture land is expensive now. Only idiots think the developers will pay from their pockets for giving them developed plots in booked amounts.

Moterway City is located in flood zone. Any major flood will wipe away entire project any time in future. No matter how cheap it is but still its not worth the risk for your families live or worth sinking your hard earned money each month for installments.

LDA City Lahore is a very good location and may rise very good but with extreme risk. If can take that risk you actually can get big reward or lose it all. Major land litigation between owners inside project and than a lot litigation between land owners and Govt backed . Than huge number of court cases claiming land garbing at lowest prices. In future when and if ever PMLN Govt gone that land take over will be null and void just like LDA Avenue 1 lost 15000 kanal developed plots land in superior courts.

Now since I am going to be accused by holders or dealers dealing in there with fake IDs that because Lahore Real Estate is not dealing in these projects so I am saying what I said above.

No one dislikes making easy money. Grand Avenue is offering dealers good money to market its project for long time. New Lahore city was named after term I invented " New Lahore" for that Riawind road area many years ago. Management was in my office at least 3 times before 1st launch so only LRE can book it for them but I refused because at that time they had 300+ kanal in hand and wanted us to exclusively book 3000 plots for that 300 kanal entail land. Refused all three times with a thank you to them. Could have made millions with booking all plots exclusively if not a billion on 3000 plots. No one is stopping LRE from dealing in these type projects but its our own choice to stay on straight path. We dont deal where we dont feel comfortable to invest our own money.

Yes in future If we see LDA approved maps of Central Park Grand Avenue New Lahore in larger size comparable to booking they are doing for years 365 days of each year we will gladly deal in them. yes if NAB oks LDA City Lahore and find no wrong doing by rulers MNAs we will gladly very actively buy sell in them. We at Lahore Real Estate think since we have dozens of other better safer options why we should take chance?

Its our right to run business where we can sleep good each night after transfers for clients. Money if in our luck will keep coming if Allah have written in our Qismat. Nothing can stop that.

I normally dont write any such stuff on website any more due to getting only harsh reaction from holders and from developers and their dealers. I openly discuss and tell in detail this kind must needed information to any one buying or selling any property any where. No matter from where he is buying. Always request to give chance to buy from Lahore Real Estate too but that is not the condition to answer all people messages or calls from all over the world honestly.


I may not be able to say more about these projects and have right to delete this post for safety of my team.

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Salman.A® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 07:16 AM PST 

Excellent analysis by CMY.

TO the point TALK by CMY.

I was asking about LDA City because the project is in limelight. If Punjab Government has decided to give land to US EMBASSY Plus other embassies it means they will clear the land just like the cleared all the land for ORANGE LINE METRO.

If shahbaz sharif is directly involved in solving the matter and pay land owners the actual price prevailing in the market just like he did for orange train, then this might be the hottest investment. IF AND ONLY IF.


Rest i agree that there are lots of other safe projects to invest our money.

MIT® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 07:39 AM PST 

CMY, Thanks for such a true & honest picture.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:28 AM PST 

Thanks CMY elaborating these points so nicely, It is nice to hear from you. Here when we point weakness of any project stake holders are hurt, But very nice wrap up of these points, Too many details are involved and best is to focus either on Ground development and ready properties or Developers who have A+ record like DHA , bahria and Lake city.

Ahsan® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 12:31 PM PST 

Every developer in Pakistan has some "Governance" issues. Bahria did loads of overbooking and failed to deliver in many instances for example recently Green valley. Similarly, DHA city. The issue is what a small investor can do ? The main issue is if the developer run away , then its a major risk... I recently went to Central Park and surprised that Block A , G , F , B and some parts of D is in possession now (more than 70%)of central park is in possession. Lahore Grammer School was operational and more than 800 families (told by dealers) are living there and more than 300 new houses are in a process of map approval. The Commercial is booming with so many plazas and beautiful park of 500 kanals.

Lake city is also an old project and they were also kept booing the plots even now ,so its not a new phenomenon. Grand Avenue strategic location is a key point. http://www.vestagroup.com.pk/

visit the website and see the pictures in a gallery. I am not advocating GA, what I am highlighting is an option because nothing is available in 35 lac with good quality development. If I buy a 1 kanal plot in 35 and it has a potential to reach 50 in few months then as an investor , It attracts me .

Haroon_16® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 01:40 PM PST 

CMY sir, only once and only once, I need a yes or no from you. You have said many times Central Park possession area is good for investment.

Please one question, is Grand Avenues possession area good for investment as well, or not?

Please respond, thanks.

Adeel Khan® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 01:53 PM PST 

Excellent Analysis Mujahid Bhai!
Thanks for sharing.

Haroon_16® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 08:16 PM PST 

Rightly said Ahsan. Because the point is - affordability of a common man.

Yes, we also love DHA, Bahria and then Lake City is a gem ofcourse. But what if we don't have budget of DHA? Isn't it better to invest in real estate, be it a smaller society like CP and GA. I also wished I had at least one plot in DHA, but budget doesn't allow me. I could have had went for Prism 5 marla, but it's non-possession, undeveloped, and 5 marla, then add development charges too. Instead I went for GA 10 marla possession plot. That's all we small investors can do. That is why societies like these attract us. Not merely because we like them, more so because that's our only option when we are low on budget.

Ahsan® replied on Sunday, June 26, 2016 01:31 PM PST 

@M.riz It is gaining at a good pace. You can try to find near possession plot in A block in range of 35 still.

hasan replied on Sunday, June 26, 2016 07:52 PM PST 

Dear dumb. Lda has not lost 15000 kanal lamd but specifific kanal in various societies


.though lda has land to compensate rest of the eddesries but using delay tactics and lda official are buying plot files

hasan replied on Sunday, June 26, 2016 07:56 PM PST 

I not lying and i can bet on this
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S.Hameed® 
City & Country:
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Thursday, June 23, 2016 07:44 AM PST  Reply: >

LAHORE RING ROAD SOUTHERN LOOP
Source: City42 newspaper (23 June 2016).

syed Zafar Abbas replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 09:56 AM PST 

Also in daily Hang News of today

Syed Zafar abbas replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 04:18 PM PST 

Today's daily jang newspaper, this has prominently displayed that agreement between Punjab govt and FWO signed for the completion of LRR southern loop 1&2 I.e 23 KM long. It will be a state of art and completed with total cost of Rs.24 billion.This ceremony was attended by Shahbaz Sharif and DG.FWO. This will be completed by August 14,2017.
Congratulations to all plot holders in Societies like NFC2, bahria orchard, societies on raiwind road etc.
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CMY 
City & Country:
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Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:03 PM PST  Reply: >

Approval to the Lahore Ring Road southern loop phase-III
LAHORE:
Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif gave approval to the Lahore Ring Road southern loop phase-III at a meeting of the Lahore Ring Road Council on Friday.

He directed the officials concerned to ensure immediate start of work on Southern Loop phases I, II and III. He said the three phases should be completed without any delay.

Sharif said six interchanges and 10 weigh stations were planned for the 22.4 km long southern loop. He asked officials concerned to pay special attention to horticulture and landscaping along the southern loop. He said trees should be planted along both sides of the road.

Sharif also asked officials to improve the core capacity of the Lahore Ring Road Authority. Earlier, the Lahore division commissioner briefed the meeting about affairs of the Lahore Ring Road Council.

Also on Friday, the chief minister visited the Provincial Assembly where he met some lawmakers in his chamber.

He urged the MPAs to keep a close contact with people in their constituencies and spare no effort to solve their problems. He said the PML-N government was implementing an agenda of public welfare and was working on a number of projects in this regard. He said the government was ensuring high standards of transparency were upheld in implementation of these projects. He said he hoped the budget for the new fiscal year would usher in an era of progress and development in the province. He said record funds had been allocated for education, health and water supply sectors. He said those criticising government’s public welfare initiatives were not sincere to the masses.

Meeting with British High Commissioner

Separately, Sharif met British High Commissioner Thomas Drew. They discussed matters of mutual interest and promotion of cooperation between Pakistan and Britain in various sectors.

Speaking at the meeting, Sharif said that the two countries had invested in promotion of peace, progress and prosperity in the region. He said relations between the two countries had strengthened overtime. The chief minister said a skills development programme was being successfully implemented in the province with cooperation of the British Department for International Development (DFID). He said another DFID assisted project for educational reforms was yielding encouraging results.

Sharif said the Pakistan Muslim League-N government was introducing far-reaching reforms to restore the confidence of foreign investors in the country’s economy. He stressed the need for promoting trade and economic ties between the two countries.

High Commissioner Drew said that Britain attached special importance to its ties with Pakistan.

He said the provincial government had ensured transparent use of British taxpayers’ money given to the government for its various social sector projects. He congratulated the chief minister for allocating huge sums of money for education, health, water supply and sanitation in the budget for 2016-17 fiscal year.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 18th, 2016.

Rehan® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 01:39 PM PST 

whts future perspective for DHa City with this southern loop phase 3.
Please throw some light
Thanks .

GVR-SUFFERER replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 01:41 PM PST 

This news is confirmed in Print media. CMY Sahib Now please share your expertise about the probable fate of GOLF VIEW RESIDENCIA

User_19577® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 02:22 PM PST 

GVR and NFC2 affect?

Razzak replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 04:54 PM PST 

Impact on Rahbar 2 commercial file which was going down in price??

BSE-KSA replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 09:27 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

Which blocks of Bahria Sector E might get affected?

Thanks.

Adnan Aamir replied on Thursday, June 23, 2016 04:10 AM PST 

This is very Good News that LRR SL III also approved for construction..Shahbaz Sharif will never stop his work due to Behria Town Problems...
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HassanHC® 
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Friday, June 17, 2016 09:54 PM PST  Reply: >

Prism past yr success
I have been watching anti Prism predictions since launch day and these fellow concerned citizend will make random pattern predictions till delivery date.

Funny thing is they don't even apologize for there misguidance and totally wrong previous assessment. Infact with more dhetaai they make even more wild guesses.

But in between that genuine investors have gained so much in prism investment and are doing so still, I hope its not the jealousy factor of those other ppl.

This same jealousy was subjected to PHASE 8 when it got launched after phase 7 and went on a different high trajectory.

Though phase 7 and 9 are both good but every day making it a street fight is foolish.

So to all those random guessers plz have mercy on ordinary visitors to this site who might trust you without checking your last wrong guesses.

We regulars now know who these ppl are with different IDs every few days coming and going.

HassanHC® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:39 AM PST 

"tm" If that's your name , exactly to these ppl this post is being referred to.

Rest we have very logical contributors who on merit recommend phase 7 or 9 and some times one over the other which is perfectly fine.

Its these "tm" "jk" "advisors" "wise guy" type fear mongerers this post is subjected to. These ppl have 1 criteria that society in which they have a plot is HEAVEN and rest lets BASH all of them and become more stubborn and dheet in doing so with changing ids.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 02:33 AM PST 

Hassan it is just beginning of game, another 8 years are ahead, Prism have attracted the investors and created a market anomaly, There will be some point of Stagnation,
If you could not buy prism in time still you have chance to buy in DHA Town, the moment Houses are made like in Phase 7 it will also gain, It has to happen in one or two years Getting 2 Plots of average Location in DHA Town will definitely fetch you best location of Prism in 2,3 years if that was your dream mark my word. Nobody can tell you what will be investors interest you can just guess based on Market Facts,
Imagine if DHA Phase 8 enjoys the best location DHA Phase 6 average and DHA 7 worst then see on google all are 2 and then 2 KM apart and Continuous uninterrupted belt. Then How all Prim 9 KM X 5 KM strip is best Location, You will come to Prim Location A+, Prism Location A , Prism location B and C still many news, revision of maps and exits will change market perception.
You can see what was out look of phase 7, 2 months back an what is now. Average plot in Middle Cutting is 150+ Now , T Block 10 Merla in Lower Cutting is Touching 90+

User_16407® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 03:44 AM PST 

Dear Property Gurus

can please compare the price jump of Phase 7 Blocks in last 2 months is it correct average 3 million jump witnessed across all blocks

Any insights will Ph7 stop at 170 vs phase 6 180

Nabeel® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 03:56 AM PST 

Appreciate both brothers point of views, hence will get 1 plot each in Prism & Phase 7.

HassanHC® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 05:15 AM PST 

Jameel Saab this post was though not directed to genuine contributors. But every one make there mind. In short term phase 7 will go a head no doubt. But in long run phase 9 will surpass just like phase 8 did.

If that's your point then I agree to you 100%.

As phase 7 will go up no doubt but ultimately phase 9 location proximity and being nestled in centre. One side state life other phase 6 other will be Ferozpur road and ring road and it does not back towards BRB or border side (again market perception but perceptions take ages to change some times) will command premium.
Again this is my rationale and I invested already long back based on that.

Frankly I never compare phase 7 to 9. Phase 7 is more old phase. I compare it to phase 8 and that justifies me.

Phase 7 is very good and excellent buy at the moment but it will not surpass phase 8. Likewise phase 9 will.

Let's wait for at least 3 years and will again see how it unfolded.

Like you don't recommend RAHBAR and I bought for 30 lacs last year and now have offer for 50 in M BLOCK 5 Marla DHA RAHBAR.

You were really all out about NFC2 I was not and ultimately NFC2 is still a big question mark and the boulevards which ppl think are made were only thing that happened there. Money is struck in a bad project. So sometimes each one of us get wrong guesses.

Final conclusion phase 7 is beautiful and should increase but compare it with phase 8 not 9. Similarly compare phase 9 to 8 not 7. As we have to do counting right oldest is phase 7 then came 8 then came 9.

Now how 8 went ahead let's find out. The reason which you will give is the same I will give for 9 location.

Inshallah we all will be blessed and all the right investments will bear fruit.
I am your biggest admirer but humbly will diverge on this one.

HassanHC® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 06:11 AM PST 

My conclusion is bashing phase 9 will not do any good as since May 2015 it has not worked and ppl like AHMET KILDIR even stopped replying to that.

Rest I love LAKE CITY. BAHRIA ORCHARD. DHA RAHBAR. PHASE 8. PHASE 7 upper blocks and like wise so many good projects. And all the above projects are investment grade.

Arif M® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 10:44 AM PST 

For a common person like me who is new to property world the phase 9 prices definitely look inflated to me simply when j compare it to DHA 9 TOWN Prices. Which is same brand, same location, way ahead in development but still almost same prices. Apart from that I also believe that prism has best location after phase 5,6. But even with that location how it is supposed to surpass the prices of DHA 9 town that is possession ready while DHA prism can easily take 6-8 years for possession.

HassanHC® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 10:54 AM PST 

For me prism in short term best blocks will be HGFJ blocks if ring road is made then FEROZPUR ROAD and central Lahore becomes access points.

If Bedian road gets widened then lower blocks APCQ I will also be recommended ultimately.

Short to medium term favourite are GHFJ only for RING ROAD proximity. That's why I don't consider DHA TOWN very good location and I never said that APCQ are top location in present Bedian road situation which is narrow congested and is not worthy of main artery to a project of big size. But if and when it is made things will be good.

By the way I have plot near 35 H in prism direct access upper cutting.

Arif M® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:36 PM PST 

Thanks for understanding alternate view. If I understand your logic correctly then by that we can say that R block 5 marlas are definitely inflated as the average plots are selling 40+ dev charges which is almost equal to DHA town 5 marla prices.

So J block 5 marla should have more value as compared to R block 5 marla. Currently it is opposite case

Jameel Mughal® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 01:20 PM PST 

Hassan HC Thanks for your valuable input, I have widespread holdings in all the investment discussed here, I merely see that investors go like Beer chall and some times this investment gains sometimes other, I am happy about all of these, i merely honestly point to under priced areas based upon the ground realities and alert investors once certain anomaly is created is market. It is none of my business how long people continue on Beer Chall,
Coming to phase 8 I still Have reservations and I this it is Hyped Just focus on 3 points, why air avenue, and Park view having better location as compared to phase 8 remained under priced many XYZ to confuse us but only because of investor trend. That ring road exit issue is Common factor to all there societies. #2 Is Once handed over in 1/2 of area people will scratch their heads how to make foundations in 14 to 15 feet deep areas. #3 is that after hand over in ist year only Builders make houses and sell them they are interested in getting Cheap Plots [none available in Phase 8] and cheap construction not possible in phase 8, So you will see construction in only leveled areas of phase 8 that is opposite phase 6 and that is studded with too many Graveyards and encroachments. Based upon these facts DHA phase 8 prices deserve major correction.

Coming to DHA phase 9 prism, still my reservation is Bottle neck exit. Current valid exit are only Ashiana towards city, Askari towards air port, ?? DHA town if you want to goto Ludhar Vaillage side and pass mnarrowest area of Bedian road and Finally Gajumattah if you want to goto Kasur, [so far DHA Town Could Not open exit through askari] Suppose you live in R,P,N,A Block and want to goto liberty or niversity of Punjab how you will reach there, Person living in central park will reach there earlier than resident of R Block.
These are food of thought for people who know the area, However if sole purpose is rolling the money then any trend can continue as long as pumping of money is there.

Kriz® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 02:43 PM PST 

Hassan Bhai could you please explain why most of PRISM fans including you always ignore K block which is as good as H and J being attached to LRR and has its own ring road interchange and also has 120 feet wide access from already developed Hudiara Drain road? Compared to J which is more like a combo of many detached islands or patches, at least the upper K is neatly designed. Comfort factor in K is as bad as Youhanabad in H or Gullo Kot, Khaliq Naqar or multiple factories in J.

HassanHC® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 02:48 PM PST 

Jameel Saab I think we are almost talking the same thing. Yes I agree some prism blocks along ring road will go more up and some might temporarily slow till some road issues get solved like Bedian road etc.

Phase 7 some blocks will go up and similarly some phase 9 will go up with ring road and steady development.

You are and will remain my inspiration for Lahore market and will keep on waiting for your valuable opinions in this forum though occasionally we might differ on some but that's ok and is beauty of healthy minds.

Kriz® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 03:21 PM PST 

Wo wo wo BRAVO Jameel Mughal sahab for discussing the areas which are considered as TABOOS in real estate market. For many real estate participants saying anything against the Mighty Phase 8 is blasphemous. I, however, commend you on your bravery and pointing out the facts that one can only observe and understand if he knows multiple segments of market and has spend reasonable time frame covering one cycle of Boom and Bust. Most of our newbies kind of investors are lacking either one or the other. It might be surprising for many to know that in an unknown sort of society TARIQ GARDENS near Raiwind and Valencia, the prices of 5, 10 and 20 marla are little shy of Phase 6. The point is that LOCATION mantra community dont really know what the location is. For them Y block of Phase 8 is bad but J block of PRISM 9 is hot, yet both are similar in nature being detached and isolated from rest of their respective phases.

HassanHC® replied on Saturday, June 18, 2016 08:08 PM PST 

Jameel Saab messages getting error so not able to reply. I think we are in broad concensus and some little differences in opinions, but I am your follower. Let's see how phase 8/9 unfolds but as a investor we some times might have different view of projects and there potential which is good.

So let's close this debate on healthy note. Will re visit it later on. Right now I am waiting for ring road and adjacent blocks in prism and then can give new analysis.

I am from a school of thought that markets are not fully efficient and have mind of there own like in Canada for last 10 years there is a rally when it is in almost recession hardly job creation and every other year government introduces some rules to cool it but it defied all the conventional logics. Same with stock market so if we can find some logic to justify for many years we can get returns and still can take exit. Look at commercial in DHA defies the logic but ppl are making billions and halal money.

Waslam and see you soon in some other new thread. Hehe
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Lahore 56® 
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Sunday, June 12, 2016 02:22 PM PST  Reply: >

When is the next Court for nfc2.Is there Any real progress or just they r giving dates,any body who knows the story in depth,if please like to share.thanks in advance.

shahzad replied on Sunday, June 12, 2016 03:23 PM PST 

bhai pata nahi kia drama ho raha he

Rana replied on Sunday, June 12, 2016 03:23 PM PST 

No real progress. The case is being kept pending continiously, deliberately. All are mafia, some directly others indirectly. They are successfull, because members have no common voice. Matter is minor and can be resolved mutually. But its a great game. A few pple have put stake of thousands for their personal benefit
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Lahore 56 
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Sunday, June 5, 2016 07:26 AM PST  Reply: >

If someone has news about nfc2 elections,what happened in court.please.

shahzad replied on Sunday, June 5, 2016 07:39 AM PST 

8 june 2016 new hearing date in court. NFC 2

Listner replied on Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 AM PST 

Hearing is being pended for third time. Judge is not interested in hearing this case and vacating the stay. There is something,... samjh to gaey he hon gay aap.....

umair replied on Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:59 PM PST 

May be due to ramzan respected judge sb ko raham ajae or wo iss ki hearing rakh lian.baqi daal kafi kali lagh rahi hai

Lahore 56 replied on Sunday, June 5, 2016 03:46 PM PST 

Some one can imagine our justice system,thousands of people and billions of rupees,judge is sleeping after giving a stay order.

Listener replied on Monday, June 6, 2016 12:33 AM PST 

This is the same judge who initially decided in favour of the current caimants 5 years back. Baqi aap khud samajh jain

Tan replied on Thursday, June 9, 2016 10:51 PM PST 

I guess we should all start writing this thing on the electronic media, may be someone from authorities will notice and take action against this judge. In addition, we can all pray in this holly month of Ramadan and request Allah to give Hadaya to this Judge and all supporting parties who are involved in nfc2 election stay.

ali replied on Friday, June 10, 2016 10:46 AM PST 

Now date is 15th June 2016
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