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 Tuesday, July 27, 2010 06:42 PM PST Reply: 
DC Rates In Bahria Town
CVT may applicable in next 3 days.
New DC rate for Bahria Town area:
Rs. 100,000 / Marla
Stamp Duty is being charged for Bahria Town Trasnfers:
Sector A, B
5 Marla -
7 Marla Rs. 7,700
8 Marla -
10 Marla - Rs. 8,500
1 Kanal - Rs. 17,000
LCL ( Low Cost Scheme Lahore in Sector B Ali, Usman and Umer Block)
5 Marla Rs. 4,600
8 Marla Rs. 6,000
Sector C & Overseas
5 Marla Rs. 4,600 (Gardenia I & II)
7 Marla Rs. 7,700 (Gardenia I & II)
8 Marla -
10 Marla - Rs. 16,000
1 Kanal - Rs. 30,000
Executive Lodges Rs. 11,000 / Kanal
All constructed houses, Safari Villas and Commercial Plots @ 2% of the amount according to sale agreement.
As per DC rate it should be:
5 Marla @ Rs. 10,000
10 Marla @ Rs. 20,000
1 Kanal @ 40,000
calculated as Rs. 100,000/Marla DC value @ 2% flat rate of Stamp duty.
Source : A.Iqbal with Thanks
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 Saturday, July 24, 2010 09:07 AM PST Reply: 
One of my Expatriate friend invested back in a housing scheme by the name Gulberg Safari Islmabad. I tried to find out the scheme but could not trace it. I would appreciate if someone from Islamabad could provide info about the said scheme. Thanks
Naveed Yaseen replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 02:04 PM PST
> a housing scheme by the name Gulberg Safari
I wonder if our developers and public ever considered meaning of word 'Safari'. It means 'long travel through wilderness'.
Now what does 'long travel through wilderness' has to do with 'plan built community of settled residences', that remains a puzzle. |
alpha beta replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 02:33 PM PST
Naveed, you have not traveled lately in Pakistan...it is a damn safari with the law of the jungle |
Be-waqoof Admi replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 03:11 PM PST
Jab tak dunya (specially Pakistan) mein be-waqoof zinda hein, aaqalmand bhooka nahin mar sakta.......(e.g. BT Safari Villas, Safari Homes, Safari Gulberg etc) |
rana replied on Sunday, July 25, 2010 01:46 AM PST
Safari with the laws of the jungle
. How apropos |
hm replied on Sunday, July 25, 2010 08:35 PM PST
Funny! Seemed to be a freudian slip by the scheme's developers. |
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 Saturday, July 10, 2010 06:30 PM PST Reply: 
Wanted plot in Bahria town sector B
I need a 8 marla plot in Ali block Bahria town . Prefer will be on the 50ft road goes to Safari villas from Usman Block
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 Wednesday, June 30, 2010 07:37 PM PST Reply: 
A beautiful 5.5 Marla (139 Square Yards or 25 X 50) brand new double story house in Block G-4 of M.A. Johar Town Phase II is available for sale. The houses distance from Canal is only four hundred meters (less than half kilometer).
The house has been built by the owner for personal use and therefore is not like regular 5 Marla houses with lots of tasteless decoration work done by contractors / Thekaydars who normally construct for profit making. The house has marble flooring with concealed lights in bedrooms, lounges and drawing room.
House Specifications:
- Two main bedrooms having measurements of 14 X 13 with attached tiled baths (Master Tiles) measuring 8 X 6each.
- One front bedroom on second floor measuring 12 X 12 with attached tiled bath (Master Tiles) measuring 5 X 6.
- All the bedrooms have wooden bed almaris measuring 10 (H) X 6 (W) and 2 (Depth).
- Two T.V. lounges having marbled floors measuring 23 X 12 (including space of marbled stairs with wood support railings).
- Two fully functional open kitchens furnished with marble floor and woodwork. The first floor kitchen measures 13.75 X 8 and second floor kitchen measures 10 X 8.
- One drawing room measuring 12 X 11.
- Spacious backyard measuring 14 X 8.
- Marbled Terrace.
- Porch measuring 13 X 10 with sufficient parking for any new model car.
- Beautiful and solid front gate and terrace grills.
- Attractive windows with beautiful glass and grill work as well as solid aluminum frames.
- Electricity and Water connections already installed with Gas demand note just received. UPS Wiring has been done for all the electricity points.
Salient features:
- Only 3.5 kilometers from Multan Road interchange of motorway and 2 KM from Expo Center.
- Nearby parks, markets, masjids, and hospitals.
- A well populated block with 99% of the construction complete.
- Abundance of daylight and ventilation due architecture/design of house.
- Ideal for renting out as the direction of stairs going up from Porch to second floor i.e. the stairs passage can be blocked for portion renting as there is a separate door for the stairs.
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Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 08:42 PM PST
Very nicely advertised. Simply impressed. Good luck Ali Bukhari Sahib. |
visitor replied on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 08:44 PM PST
please tell me your offer,thanks. |
Ali Bukhari replied on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:32 PM PST
Dear Visitor and other interested parties,
This ad was posted by LRE management on my request as I was error messages while posting the same.
My demand is 55 Lacs (which is to some extent negotiable).
You can contact me at 0323-4827370 or email me at "smalibukhari@hotmail.com".
I will be available this weekend to assist the parties interested in taking a look.
Ali Bukhari
P.S. - Mr. Hussain Kaisrani thanks for your encouraging comments. Also, I thank LRE Management for their selfless efforts. |
hassan replied on Thursday, July 1, 2010 12:02 PM PST
Hussain Kaisrani saab forgive me for priing but the house you are currently building, is it for your personal use or do you intend to sell it for a profit. |
Ali Bukhari replied on Thursday, July 1, 2010 12:39 PM PST
Hassan,
I am not sure if the question was intended for Mr. Hussain Kaisrani :). If it was not then answer is it was built for personal use, however, I am moving overseas in sometime, hence, it is being offered for sale. |
hassan replied on Thursday, July 1, 2010 01:45 PM PST
Ali sahib I wanted to know if it was for sale on profit purpose then i wanted to know is there really a big demand for ready constructed houses in BT. |
limo replied on Thursday, July 1, 2010 04:16 PM PST
Dear Ali Bokhari,
Would you mind sending few pics to me on my email id.
hanu_1234@hotmail.com
Thnaks |
Ali Bukhari replied on Thursday, July 1, 2010 08:36 PM PST
Limo,
Below is the link to the photos of the house that I uploaded on Flickr.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/51660333@N07/sets/72157624274853943/
Please note that the pictures of fully finished house would be uploaded soon as at the moment I have pictures that are from 10 days before house completion).
Thanks,
Ali |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, July 1, 2010 11:33 PM PST
Hassan Sahib!
The under construction house in Ali Block is of my friend who wanted to have home for his family as he is in the UK. His planning is bit changed so this project is for multipurpose.
As far as the demand of new houses in Bahria Town is concerned, it is not big at all. The reason is that Safari Villas are still under priced. Only quality conscious buyer considers to have a home by some private builder. If the builder takes care of quality then cost goes high and profit ratio remains very little. |
hassan replied on Friday, July 2, 2010 12:00 AM PST
thank you Kaisrani sahib for the reply |
aslam replied on Friday, July 2, 2010 08:56 AM PST
dera ali nice pictures. can u tell what is average per sq foot construction cost? |
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 Tuesday, June 15, 2010 08:33 PM PST Reply: 
Best Block in Bahria Town, Lahore
Dear H.Kaisrani/Bahria rseidents/experts,
I have almost made up my mind to have my house constructed in Bahria Lahore on a 10 marla plot.I do have a 10 marls plot in Shaheen block but since its a life time venture for middle class person like me, so having a desire to construct my house in the best possible location / block is quite natural. So before i proceed, i would like to have friends views on the following:
1. Which is the best Sector / block to have a house in, considering all the amenities nearby specially supermarket and mosque.
2. Can someone put roughly, the density wise population of each block, just to get an idea about which block is being populated at fater pace.
3. Are utilities connections available readily as i had heard that gas connection is taking time.
4. How many house have been constructed so far in Shaheen Block (213 - 223)lane.
Thanks
khan zada replied on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 04:10 AM PST
dear limo have u complete ur homework to take the decision of making ur house.at what reasons u choose the bahria while bahria is much far from city.will u spend retired life.many people gave u suggestions to make house in lake city while lake city approach is easy from shokat khanam.why did u not considered lda avenue or lake city.if u complete ur homework in making decision to build ur house please share with us.i am also in same possetion like u.i also could not take decision where i should i build my house.please share with us ur views. |
aslam replied on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 08:54 AM PST
currently i am living in samanabad lahore. I noted the travel time from BT to umer hospital on jail road which is on average 25 minutes on canal. While traviling time from omer hospital to samnabad is average 40 minutes in day time. This is due ti traqffic only. In night it takes only 5 to minutes from samnabad to omer and from omer to BT 17 minutes. Petrol wise both are same. Even if you note time it is also same. So I do not understand wrt to time or petrol both are same. so why not to live in a peaefull area. I am submmitting drawings for janiper block. I will be the first and only person making my house there. security is good there. Standered wise it is better then even EME or any otehr society. Distance seems physical but if calculated on time or petrol basis then BT is more close. YOu can note time from your preset home to office and from BT to office on daily routine basis. YOu will find no diffrence in time or petrol consumption. Try it yourself please. |
Kamran replied on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 09:50 AM PST
One of the disadvantage of Lake city is its location on heavy trafficted, narrow and rough road .i.e. Raiwind road. Keep it in mind too.
I am also such situation. I have decided to build a house in Johar Town. Though price wise 5M in Johar town = 10M in BT/Lake city, but approach wise much better. |
khan replied on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 05:54 PM PST
You are missing another point. Quality of traffic on Raiwind Road because of the area it is connecting to the city is far more poor than the to Bahria Town. With Lda 1 coming up and other developments in that area the traffic pattern in another 5-10 years will get far more worst. The situation in Bahria or other developments on the canal would not be that bad.
If I wanted to make a choice I would go to any thing on the canal axis from Thokar rather than Raiwind Road. |
limo replied on Thursday, June 17, 2010 03:56 PM PST
@ khan zada
I preferred Bahria over Lake city because of few factors.It has been my desire to have a PEACEFUL living space well away from the city hassles and looking at my budget i realised that it can be no other than Bahria. Also whenever i got a chance to visit Bahria, i noticed that people living there are quite happy and had no issues pertainig to security (for me and any one else too it should be quite encouraging as the overall security situation in the country is no secret).Now as i put in the post taht i just want to select an appropriate block / area before i go ahead. But at the same time i am eyeing on Gardenia Villas being constructed in Sector C as they look fairly decent in elevations but have yet to determine the construction standard and other details including the cost and possession time.They are 5 and 7 marla double storey being constructed by some private entity on land purchased from Bahria.So my focus is now Bahria only but still require lot of infi about this Gardenia project.Actually buying a constructed house if made using standard material and following stringent standards would always be a first choice of an overseas like me who first dont have 5 to 6 months to supervise his house's construction and neither have someone who could oversee the contractor's activities.And not to mention that at such a stage your personal presence is of great importance.
About Lake City,i can guess that Lake city will take minimum 5 years to come to a stage where Bharia is right now, i mean in terms of well developed infrastructure and fast growing population. Further after getting totally disappointed from the Safari Villas construction standards, i just though of having a constructed villa in Lake city as they are likely to be occupied earlier than the rest of the area.But when one looks at their floor plans (though they have engaged the best architects in the market), one wonders why architect has given so much area to the terraces (in a 10 marla house each inch of the space matters, plus the overall floor plan was not impressive either.One more aspect of Lake City that i understood is that it is mainly targetting the upper class and a person coming from middle class like me would definitely feel somewhat uncomfortable in that environment. Unlike Bahria, heavy traffic factor as rightly said by Kamran and Khan is also a big disadvantage of Lake City.
@aslam
I have ealso spent good time in Samanabad and glad to see someone here from that area.So which area of Samanabad do you live.Please do share the process that one has to undergo while constructing a house in Bahria.(hanu_1234@hotmail.com) |
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 Monday, June 14, 2010 04:55 PM PST Reply: 
10 Marlas House for sale 
We want to sell this beautiful house.
ig replied on Monday, June 14, 2010 06:02 PM PST
Are you crazy. You should not demand more than 60 lakh = cost of 10 marla plot + construction 50 lakh + 10 lakh profit. What is the covered are? Dont forget 8 marla safari villas are sold around 40 lakh. I can offer 5.5 million at max. |
BT replied on Monday, June 14, 2010 06:53 PM PST
This dose seem way to much. |
naeem replied on Monday, June 14, 2010 07:31 PM PST
hi |
ALI RIAZ replied on Monday, June 14, 2010 07:40 PM PST
i have seen your home in bahria....nodoubt its totally different from others ,its just like a mini meadow ,wih u all the best.....i think ur demand is perfect but in bahria this demand should be decrease little bit.....wish u all the best... |
Khan. replied on Monday, June 14, 2010 08:18 PM PST
Irfan,
although your demand is high but let me know your email address.
Thx |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 14, 2010 09:32 PM PST
This is the best house in 10 Marla in all Bahria Town Lahore. I got many ideas from it during of my under-construction home in Ali Block Bahria Town. The aesthetic, quality of construction and workmanship is amazing.
Good luck Irfan Fayyaz. |
Sami replied on Monday, June 14, 2010 11:06 PM PST
Hi Irfan can you please email me more pictures?
paki_munda74@yahoo.com |
Habib replied on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 09:52 AM PST
Irfan I would request if you can also posyt plan and inside pictures on net or on my Email
habibaac at yahoo . com I gave spaces to prevent spam email engines |
irfan fayyaz replied on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:19 PM PST
thankxxx a lot for ur wishes hussain kaisrani & ali riaz.I WANT REALY REALY SERIOUS CUSTOMER.IF ANY ONE INTERESTED HE OR SHE MAY CONTACT ME ON THIS E-MAIL ID.....irfanfayyaz@ymail.com |
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 Wednesday, June 9, 2010 03:25 PM PST Reply: 
Please for the love of God
Please for the love of God someone buy and construct a Bahria Town Sector C Comercail Lahore or anyone already holding one please start construction. I have been waiting for forever now for the rates to rise but they are not rising. it would be a grate favor to me. i am wasting away from waiting, please please someone start construction. i am disparately wanting to buy a house in Defense and a Toyota Prado so when someone stars construction the rates will rise and i can sell my plot to full fill my dream.
Hope someone starts
Abdul replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 04:01 PM PST
Oh Dear Arsalan,
you are so innocent and cute.
I am really disappointed to tell you that the house and Prado you was thinking to buy Malik Riaz and many like him in DHA have purchased with your money.
you have to live within your dream and in fools paradise. |
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 04:23 PM PST
For the present, if you can off-load ur investment & buy gold; may ur dreams cum true. |
khawar replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 04:32 PM PST
You just have to wait till the new design lahore ring road is complete and there is an interchange connecting to BT Sector C main boulevard. Then you will be able to sell at minimum 35 lakh per marla because bahria town is best town in lahore and when it is easily connected to the rest of lahore there will be a lot of commercial activity in this area. |
Abdul replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 04:32 PM PST
I will suggest to buy EURO currency, as it is low these days and has full potential to get strengthen. |
Pardesi Abha replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 06:01 PM PST
Pardesi Bhai
Is it good investment at peak price ? |
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 06:22 PM PST
Nothing can be said with assurance. Having said that the present global situation demands everyone to switch to much safer investments. As the Greece & Spain are struggling due to heavy debts & interdependance of other European states have pulled the Euro down. The current situation & last year's financial crises has forced the gold prices to soar. While the $ is still stronger than Euro but is also volatile. The grahs shows mixed rates of gold in the recent past but an upward trend can be clearly seen; in case of Pakistan the increasing $ & gold rates have jointly magnified the price increase. If you are planning to invest in Pakistan, lets say, after 2-4 years better keep ur savings in gold AS WELL not all. But please don't think of gold for a shorter term. |
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 06:26 PM PST
@ Pardesi Abha
Has the gold achieved its peak price? |
Arsalan babar replied on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 06:36 PM PST
I thank all for the replys. Khawar bhai till when do you expect the LRR map to be final and till when will it be constructed. on LRE map the interchange is in one corner but you are certain it will connect to the MB,and lastly were you kidding with the 35 lakh figure or do you really expect this? |
Hope replied on Thursday, June 10, 2010 01:41 AM PST
Wait for P.Musharraf, he will take Pakistan back to horizons.
Pakistan will back to the position of 2004-2005.
People will buy Parados, new airports and roads will be built.
New hotels and trade center will rise. New universities and schools will open.
Books will be distrubuted for free and Pakistan economy will again top Asia. |
Kaka replied on Thursday, June 10, 2010 09:34 AM PST
All above comments desperate a layman. But don't worry, very soon worthy President of Pakistan Mr. Asif Ali Zardari will lift up the economy of the country. You will find Pakistan as a world tiger, then every dream of every citizen of my beloved country will definitely come true. |
A1li replied on Thursday, June 10, 2010 01:49 PM PST
dear Sir Yasin,
I had a Sector C plot and BT moved me to Bahria Orchid, although i had paid all my dues.
What do you suggest, should i fight to move my plot back or wait for Orchid to prosper. I am looking at a 10 year span. |
Arsalan babar replied on Thursday, June 10, 2010 02:03 PM PST
I think the reason why the rate of these Comm plots fails to rise is not because of an over supply but because of the huge and unfair charges Bahria keeps on putting on them, when they started to rise in 2008 Bahria laved the development charges and now when construction has started on residential plots in Sector C and the demand for these plots has come once more with dealers BEGGING owners to sell at any price Bahria Town put this 1 million on these plots before starting construction. due to this no one is starting there plot. |
Arsalan babar replied on Thursday, June 10, 2010 02:09 PM PST
Also Bahria Town dose not put these charges on other Commercail plots in BT they only do on the Sector C ones, the 20 new plots announced plots in Sector B are only few and the ones in the Safari Villas are very dead. These are the only ones which are being actively traded. The new shops made by BT are also getting a good response for some reason :) |
Irfan replied on Friday, June 11, 2010 09:27 AM PST
Go to Bahria Town dastarkhwan and enjoy free food served from your money :) |
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 Wednesday, June 2, 2010 07:49 PM PST Reply: 
Lake City vs Bahria (Continued from post 47883)
Dera bro Dar,
Thanks a lot for sharing valuable info about Lake City. Actually i am planing to come back to Pakistan after 2 years and would like to either have a constructed house ready by then in some good society like Lake City and Bahria or atleast to have a plot which should be ready for construction by then. But after hearing a lot and seeing the poor construction standards of Safari villas, i am a bit skeptical about buying a constructed hiouse, would rather like to have a plot and construct it myself later. It would be great if someone here who has taken a constructed villa in Lake City, share his honest views and put a little comparison with the life and construction standards of Safari villas. Thanks
Dar replied on Thursday, June 3, 2010 12:00 AM PST
Dear Limo,
Bahria Town sector is also good but to take a plot and make house. Construction of safari villas is not good and many people are facing problems there.
Construction of villas in Lake City is good. You can either book villa or plot on 3 yrs installments. As Lake City's first project, so they are working hard to make this society a liveable place to enjoy with lot of facilities. So families are already living there and enjoying in M-1 villas where 600 people will be living in near future. If you have no time and wants your house be ready prior to your arrival in Pakistan the villa in Lake City will be good option for you. Anway both locations - Sector C and Lake City good place to live. You have to search and study well before taking any decision.
Regards |
lodhi replied on Thursday, June 3, 2010 08:07 PM PST
dear limo what did u decide to build house.please make a visit of lake city and also tell us in detaile about lake city so that we also could take decision to build our homes. |
limo replied on Friday, June 4, 2010 01:26 PM PST
Friend i am living abroad and just collecting info.I have not visited the site yet but would definitely visit after couple of months when i go to Pakistan.I have a feeling that it has got a good response. |
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 Tuesday, June 1, 2010 11:41 AM PST Reply: 
Were should i invest?
Aslam alikum
dear brothers i am planning to buy land or house on installment only, at the moment lots of schemes are pooping up for DHA and behria is tthere any upcoming scheme in lahore or islamabad or rawalpindi?
what will be the best city and scheme to invest DHA or Bahria? Lahore or Islamabad /rawalpindi?
Ali Hassan replied on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 12:29 PM PST
W/SALAM,
dear brother i think it is better for you to invest in Islamabad DHA/Bahria because as you know it is a beautiful place for living and if you want to sell your property in future then it will give you a great profit as compare to Lahore. If you need any kind of information realated DHA/Bahria, Islamabad you can ask .I will guide you properly.
Thanks, |
Faisal replied on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 02:56 PM PST
Jazak Allah khair,
dear brother Ali,
at the moment is there any housing or plot scheme starting where in i can apply.because i wish to buy property on only installment basis.and i have no idea if there is any new DHA/Bahria scheme in progress? |
Dar replied on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 03:41 PM PST
If interested in Lahore then close the eyes and invest in Lake City on Raiwind road touching the Lahore ring road. It is beautiful housing scheme like Arabian Homes in Saudi Arabia. First you should see the ground realities then decide rather you listen from anyone.
Every one will tell you different schemes. Although in Lahore Bahria Town, EME, Sukh Chayan, Valencia, Wapda town are good places to live after DHA (by the way, I do not like to live in DHA. but Lake City will be on the top in future. Some people claim that is is very far from the city, but the city is going now towards that direction. You can book there pot or house on installments.
Please take your own decision but listen to all.
Regards |
limo replied on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 07:55 PM PST
@Dar,
I agree that saying about these places being far away from the city is not correct.Infact these cities have almost become complete cities within themselves.So tell us about latest status of the society, is the development underway, construction started, if not when do you think this society would be ready to live.Also how would you compare 5, 7, 10 marla villas with Safari villas.Can it be said a better living place than Bahria.Please do share.Thanks |
Faisal replied on Tuesday, June 1, 2010 09:04 PM PST
Dar and limo are ryt if some one knows about lake city status please share with overseas Pakistanis since we are not aware with the current ups and downs of property. |
Dar replied on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 01:52 AM PST
Dear Limo and Faisal,
I am not property dealer or having investment in Lake City. I just go there every month to check the villa construction of my friend who is in Saudi Arabia and would like to live there in future. He came Pakistan last year and looked this society, so he decided to take villa there. The development is almost complete. 10 families are already living. 100 houses have been given possession. 600 viilas are under construction. M-1 sector is compound of 600 villas with 4 security gates. Froebel school is active. Shopping mall and Masjid is under construction. Eden Life Style home are also ready to live which are inside the Lake City. You will not find main boulevard of any other society like Lake City.
Golf course is being developed fastly and mini golf is active.
In brief, it is very well planned society and consisted on 2000 acres of land. It is better if you send someone on your behalf to see this society so that he could give yor actual picture and details of the development, in the internet they have not complete details. I am also overseas and now in Lahore, so I can only say for those brothers who really want to enjoy their life, should live there. People are now coming out from the main city as there is much traffic and taking long time even to reach few miles.
Other poeple should also share their comments as well.
Regards |
Rashid replied on Wednesday, June 2, 2010 09:09 AM PST
I suggest AWT2, safe, cheaper, possosion, all facilities, near to ring road even more than lake city. |
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 Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:30 PM PST Reply: 
210 Ali Block Bahria Town Lahore - Guidance Regarding Tiles Requested
Salaam to All,
I have now reached on finishing stage of my under construction project 210 Ali Block Bahria Town Lahore.
With the help and guidance of experienced friends all the previous stages completed very nicely and timely.
After doing some research I have decided to use tiles instead of marble. As per information collected, Master Tiles or Shabbir Tiles are the best option. I have already used these ones and the result was satisfactory. Few friends are suggesting me to use China tiles. I request friends to share their experience in this regard. It will be special kindness if you can recommend some shop from where I can have better service and quality products within the market rates.
I would also like to know some important points about sanitary fittings. Any suggestion and recommendation will highly be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
shahid replied on Friday, May 21, 2010 11:02 AM PST
i want to start consructionmy house next month n janiper block. Can i vist your house just to see the design of house.
regarding tiles do not use premimm quality of master. china ism more best option. |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, May 21, 2010 12:01 PM PST
Shahid Sahib! It will be an honor for me if you spare some time to visit my house.
Many thanks for your suggestion regarding tiles. Hope to see you soon. |
SI replied on Friday, May 21, 2010 12:08 PM PST
Dear Sir
I am living in a newly constructed house for last three years. All house is fitted with Master Granite tiles, we found no difficulty in maintenance, still looking as goog as new. So I recommend Master Granite tiles.
Regards |
limo replied on Saturday, May 22, 2010 05:36 PM PST
Kaisrani bhai American Standards and Ideal Standards are the big brands when it comes to plumbing fixtures, trims and fittings.I am related to this trade and here in Saudia always recommend these two in any new construction.But i have no idea at all whether they are avilable in Pakistan or not.Congratulations for the fast completion of your dream home.A little personal but may i ask what you going to do with yuour safari villa once you move to your new house.I mean if you plan to sell it out (if it is 8 marla), do remember me.
hanu_1234@hotmail.com |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, May 24, 2010 11:42 PM PST
@SI,
Thanks for your sharing your experience with Master Granite tiles.
@limo,
In Pakistan we do not have both of these brands. Anyway thanks for your guidance.
Safari Villas is my most favorite place to live. Insha Allah we are not moving from here until our kids are grown up. By the way my home is not recommended for you as it is bank financed. These kind of houses (which have registry are bit difficult to sell when needed as buyer (rather dealers) do not wait for completing the registry process. We may sell this new and under constructed 8 Marla house which is again not recommended for you as you are supposed to start living in Safari Villas. |
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 Sunday, May 16, 2010 01:38 PM PST Reply: 
Living in Safari Villa or elsewhere in Bahria town !
I am on crossroads in making a decision as to live in safari Villa or construct a house of my own choice in Bahria and settle there.Can someone particularly Hussain Kaisrani help me in making a decision about settling in Lahore after 2 years time. I have 3 kids, so do you think 8 marlas serena would be ok for a family of my size.Also i do own a 10 marla plot in Shaheen block, how about getting it constructed of my own choice rather than buying a safari.How do you see living in Safari villa different from living in Bahria Lahore elsewhere.Also Should i buy safari just before coming back to settle or i can purchase now and put it on rent for 2 years.I have around 45 lack in hand, please suggest the best proposal where my money is best utilized and invested at the same time. Constructing a 10 marla house would cost me roughly 30 lacks with balance 15 i can invest by buying a small plot in Bahria itself.Buying 8 marla safari would roughly cost me around 40 - 45 lacks, thus allowing me to keep my 10 marla plot as it is hoping for some rise in future.Thanks
Assad replied on Sunday, May 16, 2010 07:34 PM PST
AOA
I suggest buy a safari villa, rent it out. enjoy monthly rental + Appreciation and after you are back live in safari villa.
You'll be able to construct your house under your supervision and you will be in better position to decide where to live.
If you construct now will you willingly rent that out?
Will you keep unoccupied that house?
If you construct now what that will pay you?
Regards |
Rana replied on Monday, May 17, 2010 08:02 AM PST
@Assad good suggestion
Another option is buy a non possession SAFARI VILLA, will cost you less and price difference is more then 2 years rent which you will get in case you buy a ready to move villa and rent it out. Moreover it will be newer when you move in after two years. |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, May 17, 2010 09:00 AM PST
Brother limo,
Assad Sahib has given best solution.
I enjoy living in Safari Villas but many people do not find any reason to prefer living in Safari Villas. After discussing the matter with too many people, I have reached to the conclusion that Safari Villas living is only better if:
1. You have small kids and want them to mix up in neighborhood.
2. You like community living.
Things may change after few years but at present Safari Villas is an ICON of Bahria Town Lahore so all facilities are being made available in or around it.
I will also suggest you to buy a Safari Villa and rent it out. Start living here after shifting. You will be in better position to decide whether to shift to Shaheen Block or not.
Your budget is more than sufficient for buying a Safari Villa.
@ Rana Sahib
Generally it is very good idea to buy a Safari Villa with no possession which will, of course, be ready with in a year or so BUT I will not agree with you Rana Sahib due to two factors:
1. Nowadays it is very difficult to find a Safari Villa (Asian, Serena) with no possession
2. It is also a possibility that Bahria Town will not finalize it within two years due to some reason. In this case there will be real problem for limo. |
limo replied on Monday, May 17, 2010 04:04 PM PST
Thanks a lot Kaisrani bhai and Asad. Kaisrani bhai, would you suggest me some better location if i have to buy a Serena (8 marla), i mean close to park, mosque, supermarket etc and also which area i should avoid. |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, May 17, 2010 11:35 PM PST
Always welcome!
It totally depends upon the availability. I may not be correct when I say some location good or bad. You start your search for buying a villa. When there comes a point of selection in available options, I will provide you my point of view. At this stage it is not wise to discuss the matter on this forum. Thanks for your understanding sir. |
limo replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:02 AM PST
I really appreciate your supportive nature, thanks once again Kaisrani Bhai. |
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| yasir afzaal |
| justone_u@hotmail.com | | Phone:+923328525606 | City & Country: islamabad | |
 Sunday, May 9, 2010 04:57 PM PST Reply: 
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 Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:27 PM PST Reply: 
4/5 bed rooms Safari Villas Bahria Town Rawalpindi REQUIRED
I'm looking for 4 to 5 bed rooms Villa in Safari Villas BT Rawalpindi. If any body interested to sale, please let me know the price and location.
Sheikh replied on Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:59 PM PST
AOA
Dear Sheikh Sb
I have 4 bed safari Villa in Rawalpindi.This is corner & brand new.
if u r interested pl contact me.
Sheikh Saqib Nafees
0300-5014610
E-mail:shsaqibnafees@yahoo.com |
S.A replied on Saturday, May 8, 2010 01:52 PM PST
hope u will be fine. 1stly u tell me, which safari villas u want to purchased. 3 projects of safari villas in Bahria Town RWP/ISB. And tell me da budget, then i recomend to u in dis budget.
thanks and regards |
S.A replied on Saturday, May 8, 2010 04:03 PM PST
Is it impossible in dis budget? 1stly u raise da budget, ur budget should be 12 to 13 million, if u want to 4 bed house. And dis house build/construct in 10 marla plot. In dis budget u purchase a house in safari Villas 2, Bahria Town phase 2,3,4.
Thanks |
Jamal replied on Saturday, May 8, 2010 05:05 PM PST
Dear S.A,
I Shall be grateful if you kindly advise as to which area in Islamabad you would recomend for constructing small houses for sale purpose?
What would be plot price? |
S.A replied on Saturday, May 8, 2010 05:18 PM PST
AOA,
tell me da budget. bcoz alot of sector in islamabad. if ur budget is 1.25 to1.50 crore. u should be contruct da house in E-11.
thanks |
raja amer replied on Saturday, May 8, 2010 10:51 PM PST
i have villa in safari 1 it has 4 beds newly built very good location and modern touch to it demand is 13million send me mail on amer_zaman@hotmail.com if u intrested thanks. raja amer |
Guest replied on Sunday, May 9, 2010 10:27 AM PST
Dear,
I donot know why you demand 13 million for Safari Villa.
When the person can buy a plot of 10 marla in Blocks (A,B,C,D,E) around 16 Lacs, which are around Safari villas, and build the modern living house in 30 Lacs and total cost would be around 50 Lacs, including the cost of a contractor who will build your house.
Please tell me what is the logic behind 13 million ?
Regards,
Guest |
S.A replied on Sunday, May 9, 2010 01:17 PM PST
In safari villas (1) 10 Marla plot price vary 40 to 45 lacs. and its location near Car Chowk, Gulrez. Understand, and if u want build da modern construction, da construction cost vary 45 to 55 lacs. Its (A)Grade construction cost.
Regards:
S.A |
Abdul replied on Sunday, May 9, 2010 01:18 PM PST
Dear Sheikh Sahib,
Go for DHA houses constructed by Bharia in reasonably good standard in Bharia Phase 8 opposite DHA-1. have a visit you will like it. |
Owais replied on Sunday, May 9, 2010 06:54 PM PST
Dear brothers Guest, S.A and Abdul,
I will be home in a week time and shall buy a plot or two to commence construction of a house for sale purpose. If it goes well, we would like to continue with it.
I will be grateful for your kind guidance on the matter as to what area is recomended with price range where we have a good potential for the buyers after house is ready.
Kind Regards
owais50@hotmail.com
Regards |
Abdul replied on Sunday, May 9, 2010 07:35 PM PST
Dear Awais,
Bahria 2-6 and then phase 7& 8 are ideal for this business. you have to be unique in style and selection of material. avoid Expensive and costly items but with good ideas you can earn money. Customers are readily available and do visit Bahria and if you succeed to earn credibility you can settle well.
Good Luck |
Owais replied on Sunday, May 9, 2010 07:55 PM PST
Dear Abdul,
Many thanks.
Please send me your e mail or cell number so I can call you once I home on Friday inshallah.
My e mail is owais50@hotmail.com |
S.A replied on Sunday, May 9, 2010 10:19 PM PST
Dear Abdul
I'm not satisfy of ur opinion. in ur opinion wt rate of house in bahria town phase 2. I know da price very well, people demand 85 lacs to 1.10 crore. but the buyer convey da offer 75 to 90 lacs, its depend on location and house quality.
But da price of plot in phase 2 vary 32 to 45 lacs. map fees and utility charges round about 4 to 5 lacs. and the construction cost start 1000 to 1700 per sqft. 10 marla plot size 30*75, bt we construct da house 25*65. its covered area 1625 sqft, one floor.
if i'm wrong, so u told me. |
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| HUSSAIN |
| tssrms@hotmail.com | | City & Country: UK | |
 Friday, April 30, 2010 09:01 PM PST Reply: 
hussian replied on Saturday, May 1, 2010 03:32 PM PST
hi
thank very much for your replay could you please tell me how much in rupess and how many bed rooms are the house consist of . feel free to contact me on 0044 7939582650
regards
hussian |
S>A replied on Saturday, May 1, 2010 07:08 PM PST
hello dear:
Hope u will be fine. safari villas structure rate vary 80 to 1 crore.
its depend on location. I have a villa on main road, street and park face all categorys available. These are 3 or 4 bed rooms safari villas.
My email: justone_u@hotmail.com
Thanks & best regards: |
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| tzk |
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 Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:24 PM PST Reply: 
Husain Kaisrani or anyone from Bahria Town
The road which goes from Safari Villas to the Hospital to Ghori Block, is that extended to the Canal Road? Just looking at Google Maps and someone has marked it as Eastern Avenue West
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:39 PM PST
Salaam tzk,
It is not yet extended. As per my understanding it will take few years to connected to canal as this land is in litigation. |
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| Hussain Kaisrani |
| kaisrani@gmail.com | | City & Country: Safari Villas Bahria... Town Lahore | |
 Friday, April 23, 2010 11:40 PM PST Reply: 
Gardenia Homes - Bahria Town Sector C, Lahore - A review 
Gardenia Homes were introduced in the market about two years ago when Bahria Town Lahore shifted many of its Gulmohar Block plots to either Nargis Block, Janiper Block or Bahria Orchards. In the start it was told that Gardenia-1 project will have 16 homes (plot Nos.113 to 122) of 7.4 Marla and 160 homes of 5 Marlas. Both of these homes will be double storey with 3 beds attached baths. There will be a 10 Kanal size park. But later on the construction was started on only 40 plots which is still under process with good speed. All the remaining plots were sold through property dealers and a special deal package was introduced. The map of Gardenia is not found in Bahria Town Sector C official map. Same is the case with Gardenia Homes which are never advertised on Bahria Town official site. Even these homes are not being marketed /sold by Bahria Town offices.
The reason behind this is that it is not a Bahria Town project. UN Enterprises is constructing, marketing and selling these homes with a logo "Your Dream, Your Home". Gardenia homes have no relation with Villa Gardenia of Safari Villas or LA GARDENIA Park in Sector B. The booking office of Gardenia Homes is in Home number 1 Gardenia Homes Sector C, Bahria Town Lahore. The quality of construction is very nice. Accommodation and lay out of these homes is good. Only stairs are on congested side which is understandable due to the size of plot. All of these homes are facing park. These homes were booked on Rs.35 Lac about a year ago. The man behind this project is (a close family member of Major Amir Sahib) Nasir Malik who completed Lane number 7 (Villas Numbers 145 to 162) of Safari Villas in 2005 - 2006. These Safari Villas are much better in finishing and wood work items due to quality work of Nasir Malik Sahib. You can reach Gardenia Office through email.
Gardenia is situated on dead end of Sector C, Bahria Town Lahore after Gulmohar Block. It seems that Bahria Town has got more land under its control as boundary wall has started bit exceeding towards canal. The photographs will show the location. About 10 homes are completed but possession is not yet given so no family has yet moved there. Three private homes are also under construction and one of them has residence in it.
The project has its own small (10 small shops) commercial area. At the moment this is the only constructed commercial area in Sector C. As soon as people start living in Gardenia, the construction activity will significantly improve in Gulmohar and Overseas Enclave A.
~~~~It is every man's obligation to put back into the world at least the equivalent of what he takes out of it.~~~~
=== The article has few links in it which are not being managed on this page. For reading more clear version of this write up please visit kaisrani.blogspot.com
Hope administration of LRE will not mind it ===
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| limo |
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 Wednesday, April 21, 2010 04:36 PM PST Reply: 
Safari Villa
I want to buy a 200 sq yard ready to move Safari Villa.Just have few questions if Mr.Adil or Mr. Hussain Kaisrani could reply:
1.What would be the price of a 200 sq. yard Safari Villa, Serena in particular,approx.
2.Do we have new and old category of villas.And is there big price difference between the two.
3.Are there any ready to move villas among the new category.
4.Are the new villas located in the same premisis or elsewhere, i had heard that they are located in C Sector.
5.Are thse villas with gate and which category is best suited for somewhat religious minded family, requiring complete privacy.
6. What is the approximate rent that you can get for such a villa and can it be rented out immediately after purchasing, like within one month.
7.Are any of these villas located infront of the famous tafalgar square park and can we find few vacant in that location or its hard to get one in that area.
8.How easily can they be disposed off once i plan to sell my villa or its quite hard to get rid of it.
Lastly if anyone interested in selling one can contact me on hanu_1234@hotmail.com
Thanks
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:33 PM PST
You are welcome!
1. You should have arrangement of Rs.42 Lac. It is only to give you an idea. You will need extra Rs.125,000/= for transfer fees, commission and other misc. expenses. At least more Rs.300,000/= are needed to shape a villa into YOUR home.
2. Yes, generally we can have both but some time buyer needs to wait. There are many differences in old and new one. Dealers will tell you many stories but actually only following points are important:
A). Almost all the villa's grey structure was made at the same time (about 5 years ago) so main thing is same only finishing may have some differences.
B). Old Villas are located nicely. Obviously new villas are made on sides though few new villas are also on good locations. In real estate LOCATION matters a lot.
C). The quality of wood work including doors etc in new villas is in very highly finishing but not in good quality. Some old villas do have same wood work and quality.
D). Almost all the new villas have KACHI TILES installed though it looks good and old villas have Granite Tiles.
E). You are clear about the problems of old villa which you are going to buy as it is used but you do not have any idea what kinds of problems will come out from a new villa after a year or so.
F). Old Villas are being sold less than Rs.40 Lacs and new are demanded Rs.43 Lac. In any case you can get an old villa about Rs.3 Lac less than the new one. With these Rs.300,000/= you can make your villa fine in all respective.
G). Few new villa have good quality fixing which is not found in any old villa (if the owner has not installed by him/herself).
H). Workmanship in both villas was almost of same quality and level.
I). GUTKA or small tiles are fixed on front elevation of all new villas. Many of old villas are also having this facility.
J). Steel Grills is the only edge in new villas. The old villas has the grills in iron only.
3. Yes! there are ready to move new category villas available in the market. Adil Saeed Sahib may guide you about it.
4. Safari Villas Lahore is a gated and boundary walled community and all the villas are in same premises. Sector C has Gardenia 1 in it which is not related to Safari Villas.
5. Privacy is relative for every one but except main gate all other rules are almost same in all over Bahria Town Lahore. You are safe with in your villa. Yes! boundary walls are on smaller side and gate is not fully closed. Religious minded members of Safari Villas are equally enjoying their living in it. By the way European Style has best possible privacy system in it.
6. The monthly rent is approximately Rs.18,000/= nowadays as possession of many villas has been handed over to their owners recently. Generally the rate remained in between Rs.18,000/= to Rs.20,000/=. YES! villa can easily be rented out if rent is demanded as per market rate and it is in reasonable condition.
What is required for renting out a Safari Villas is already explained in one of my post with a title:
Want to rent out your Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore
7. Yes! There are few villas sold in front of Trafalgar Square and Safari Park to general public but on very higher price. The availability and rate could be found out from Adil Saeed Sahib.
8. It is not an issue to sell a villa if you are ready to sell it on current market rate. Please keep in mind that the COST of your villa will jump about Rs.150,000/= (at least) on the day when you get it transfered on your name BUT (and this BUT is very important) the PRICE will remain the same on which you bought it. And if you transfer this villa into YOUR home then its cost will further go up about Rs.200,000/= (at least) and buyer will NOT pay you for these costs. Generally people do not understand these matters and demand the price after calculating their cost. This formula, unfortunately, does not work here.
Hope I replied all of your queries. |
limo replied on Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:27 AM PST
Dear Hussain Kaisrani, thanks a lot for such a detailed reply. Could you please clarify the following also
> Sector C has Gardenia 1 in it which is not related to Safari Villas.
You mean the same Gardenia 1 style villas have also been constructed in C Sector.Are they a little cheaper and have they been segregated from the other area through some boundary.Are people living there!
>By the way European Style has best possible privacy system in it.
What exactly do you mean by a European style.As far as i know, safari villas mainly cpmprise of Gardenia, Serena, Moderna, Grande, Mariana styles. |
Alimomi replied on Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:18 PM PST
Dear Hussain Kaisrani
thank u very much for giving us information indetail mr. hussain i am living in abroad and plaining to move over Safari Villas but could not get any information now i got inshallah by next month i will be in pakistan if u really help me to gave me villas number to select one of them actually i m intersted in European style villas awaiting for ur futher helpfull information regarding Safari Villas or if u can find one for me ......really appreciate contact me by email ( zarapalace@gmail.com )> |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, April 23, 2010 10:55 PM PST
Sorry for late reply.
@ limo
I will be presenting some more information rather full review of Gardenia. In short Gardenia Homes are under construction and their booking was started about a year ago. The quality of construction is far better and the price at the time of booking was Rs.35 Lac. No people are not yet living there as construction work is under process.
Generally Villa Moderna is now called European Style. Your information is perfectly right.
@ Alimomi
Thanks for your kind remarks. Please contact Adil Saeed Sahib +92-322-4009766 for availability and sale / purchase of Safari Villas. You are welcome to contact me if any further information is required. Thanks. |
limo replied on Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:58 AM PST
Thanks HK. |
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| Amar |
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 Wednesday, March 31, 2010 01:17 AM PST Reply: 
BT RWP
Assalam o Alaikum,
I wish to know the possible price level of Safari villas 5 marla & 8 marla single or two storey in BT Rawalpindi. Also, in which phase they are situated.
Regards,
Amar
AMAR replied on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 02:29 PM PST
Can anybody dealing in BT RWP answer my above query. would appreciate. |
ABD replied on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 03:30 PM PST
Bharia Homes 5 marla 40 Lacks
Bharia Homes 8 marla 72 Lacks
Awami Villa 5 marla 15 Lacks
the above are average rates and vary location wise. |
Gulfaraz replied on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 04:21 PM PST
AOA
Pl Contact me.my cell#0300-5514820
Gulfaraz
Thanks |
AMAR replied on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 09:08 PM PST
Dear ABD,
Appreciate your response to my query. Please mention further:
Bahria Homes 5 marla 40 Lacks - Is it two storey? I believe there are some single storey as well.
Also, in which phase of BT they are situated?
Regards, |
ABD replied on Thursday, April 1, 2010 08:33 AM PST
Dear Amar,
I had this information of price in my recent visit of Bharia
for further information you can contact
Col (R).Malik Misbah
Forces Estate
Cell 0333-5104512 office 051- 5730701
e.mail marie.guru@gmail.com |
bahria rwp replied on Friday, April 2, 2010 10:04 AM PST
Market value for 8 marla is 60 lakhs plus/minus and not 72 lakhs. Bahria sells for 70 lakhs, but they are available at 60 lakhs from buyers in market. The 40 lakhs (maybr less) is a 2 story 5 marla. 8 marla is a better option in my opinion. They are all in phase 8. people already live there, and occupy quite a few residences in phase 8. These are known as Safari homes & bahria homes in pindi, and are called Safari Villas in bahria Lahore. Safari Villas in bahria pindi are from 10 marlas to 1 kanal. One can buy a Safari villa approx. 12 marla in safari Villas 2 in Phase 7 rawalpindi for about 85 lakhs (starting and up). They are 3 bedroom homes with a gate, privacy and a servant room. A practical and best option. |
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| Tariq |
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 Tuesday, March 2, 2010 08:44 PM PST Reply: 
Dear members,
I came from Saudi Arabia and settled now in Lahore. I have saved 6 Mio. I spent 6 months to search what business I can start. I failed to find any business because of no experience and dealing of the people. Every one is looking fraudulent and no henesty. My relatives giving many options to start with them but I know that at the end I will loose all. They are now asking to give some money as loan and can get when I start the business, I refused to give to anyone although they are angree. I do not want realestate as it is long term investment.
My question to ask from all of you is that where can I keep this amount to get some profit monthly for my home expenses. Some one told me to invest in mutual fund (JS/AHL) as it is not interest based and can give good return. They give the reason that your capital will increaase while dividend will also come monthly/yearly. One said to put the money in Meezan Bank with their scheme called Monthly Amdani Certificate(7 yrs plan). One said in BankIslami with their monthly saving account.
Please let me know if any one of you is getting good monthly return from any Islami Bank in Lahore.
Thanks for the information which sure will help of many other overseas who came back from abroad and are looking the same way as I.
Best regards
saeedusa replied on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 09:17 PM PST
Dear BR,
Never invest money in Mutual Funds because they invest in stocks too and if market goes down tehn they go down with the market too. |
MJM, Dammam replied on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:07 PM PST
In the given circumstances, if you have your own home to live in, I would suggest to invest half of your money in National Savings Center and get monthly income to run your personal family affairs. Never give big loan to your relatives, but small amount of loan is no problem. In the meantime, try to find out a job. I am sure you must have brought with you working experience. Inshallah God will help you. |
info replied on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:20 PM PST
One possible option might be to purchase a older Safari Villa for about 4 million and rent it out but the monthly rent is probably not enough.
Extract from LRE Ad.
"Bahria Town Lahore 8 Marla Safari villa For Sale ready to move in or get 19000 thousands rent per month.Asking Price 41 Lacs." |
Reman replied on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:21 PM PST
Although I have no experence but understand with part of this amount you can open a small poultry farm. Having someone for time being untill you learn yourself how to run it.
May be I am wrong, comments are welcome. |
Zamil replied on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 10:58 PM PST
Tariq shahib,
You should spread your amount across various assest classes. You can put some amount in debt oriented mutual funds (they don't invest in stocks and are relatively safe). Both JS/AHI Income funds are OK. You can invest in NSS (as suggested by MJM) or can deposit in bank and at the same time, you can invest some amount in RE too (safri villa or something similar).
Good Luck. |
Assad replied on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 11:04 PM PST
AOA
Tariq sahib best option is, buy two 5 marlas Safari Villas and enjoy monthly rent with appreciation of your property...
Assad
0346-666-9996 |
Qaiser replied on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 11:07 PM PST
Dear Tariq sahib, I am in the same boat like you except that i am still abroad. Looking to invest my retirement money to get regular monthly income. Real estate rental income is good but some time tenant give hard time while commercial real estate is very costly. Bank's income involve interest I do not know about the Islamic banks.
Any way if you come some thing better please inform me. Can I have you contact number or E-mail Address?
All the best,
Qaiser |
AD replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 12:25 AM PST
Hi Mr. Tariq & Mr. Qaiser
I am in the same situation but like Mr. Qaiser I am still abroad and might be coming back to Pakistan soon.
I tried my best but could not find a suitable business to start. I have bough a studio apartment in the International City Dubai for AED 348,000 and have rented it for AED30,000 per year (the rent was low this year as last it I gave it on rent at AED37000).
There is a little risk invovled as if something happens (and don't ask me what that "something" is) you will be required a visa to travel to Dubai.
Otherwise, no one will be able to do what Qabza groups or the tenants do in Pakistan.
Please share on this website if you do find something workable.
Thanks |
NN replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 06:17 AM PST
Dear AD,
You must be paying monthly condo fees as well.
Please mention the condo fees.
In my opinion, I totally agree with MJM, Dammam.
I am already doing NSS to run my brother home expenses.
These days you get per month Rs.1190/for one lakh deposit.
Thanks, |
Alam replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 07:45 AM PST
AoA, I was in the same situation. I purchased agricultural land and I am having reasonable income, it is the best investment, safe and secure would lead to generations. Price appreciation is also ok but not as good as in real estate, but no risk is involved. I am enjoying the land. |
Asad replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:20 AM PST
dear brother please do not invest in AHI (arif habib investments) I, have suffered he(arif habib) is the biggest thug you can come across.Please do your own research it is the best way |
wheretoinvest replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:22 AM PST
Alam : How much you invested and how much return you get monthly aproximatly ?
Why you say no risk ? if no rain etc.. cant it be no risk ? |
AD replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 03:43 PM PST
Hi
I don't want to start the debate again but in my opinion all incomes from bank and national savings etc. fall under "interest" or "sood" or "haraam" and therefore it should be avoided.
Allah will give "Barkat" in whatever less money you will get from elsewhere Halal sources. |
ZIA MIAN replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 07:32 PM PST
Dear Tariq! I don't know what sort of work experience you obtainted during your stay in KSA. Anyway prposal of Br.MJM Dammam sounds reasonable that you try to find a job for yourself. In my opinion 'investment' & 'business' carry different meanings.Business essentially needs investment but it may not be so the other way round. If are a well educated person, then I think running a schhol is the best business. |
Javaid replied on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 09:19 PM PST
@Asad,
Can you share your AHI investment experience with us. It'll be helpful for other viewers of this forum. Infact, I myself have invested some amount with them.
Regards |
MUHaider replied on Thursday, March 4, 2010 06:49 AM PST
Dear Alam Bhai, AA
Can you please share your experience of agri land as i am myself very interested in this. Where did you buy, how much, how long the process to purchase, how to rent it out or you farm it yourself,what about the horrors of villagers occupying your land etc. If you like i would like to contact you to get some ideas. I am in Lahore for a few days. Thank you and wish you the best in farming. If you wish pl contact me at muhaider@yahoo.com. |
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| Ahmad |
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 Saturday, February 20, 2010 03:29 PM PST Reply: 
Dear Kaisrani and others,
Can you please tell me if Bahria Town is giving safari villas on installments near the cinema area. I visited last week and asked the security guard and he told me that no any villas is available here as all already booked. I called BT office and they told that 1 K villa now in sector-A is booked in 1 crore 50 lacs on 3 yrs installments.
I think Sector A is far from the main area of B.
I heard that construction of villas is not of good standard. I am thinking to live in BT, so can I get any good villa ready within 6 months of 1 K and what will the total price. Other option is to get plot in sector C and build house. Can you please tell which sector of C is best to live close to all facilities (Mosque, Garden, Shops etc).
Thanks for your comments.
Regards
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:36 PM PST
Salaam Ahmad Sahib,
I do not think that Bahria Town is offering any villa on installment which is ready within six months. You may get latest information by visiting Bahria Town main office.
There is no facility of Mosques and shops in Sector C at the moment. |
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 Thursday, February 18, 2010 02:33 PM PST Reply: 
Saffari Villa
Dear H.Kaisrani, how are doing and how smooth is the life going in Bahria lahore these days.Hussain bi is it advisable for someone (who lives abroad and wants to shift after almost 2 years)to purchase a saffari villa today and keep it locked for that long a period.Does he still have to pay the monthly utility charges.Please advise whether this practice is safe.Thanks
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, February 18, 2010 05:40 PM PST
Salaam and many thanks for remembering me dear limo.
It is strongly NOT recommended to buy a villa (or any home) if you have plans to keep it locked for longer time. Your home will be ruined.
Yes you need to pay monthly expenses but this is not a big issue as these are only Rs.2,000/= in total. You should either rent it out or give a duty to some one who can take care of it by opening the home once a week. The cost of its usual cleaning, paying bills and taking care is approximately Rs.3,000/= Few of our friends (member of this page) are managing their homes in this way.
Security wise you villa is fully safe in Safari Villa project. |
Suleman replied on Thursday, February 18, 2010 07:24 PM PST
I am looking for 1 Kanal plot with a view to build a house in the near future. Like limo I am an overseas Pakistani. I am having difficulty deciding where to purchase on a limited budget of 40 45 lakh max.
Realistically speaking I have 3 options (I think).
DHA Phase 6/7 vs. BT Lahore vs. Sukh Chayn Gardens
Reasons I would like to purchase in the above is the underground infrastructure, community centre/facilities/security.
To: Hussain Kaisrani
I would appreciate your opinion, if you had the opportunity to purchase which society would you choose keeping in mind Lahore Ring Road and possibly other road projects? What kind of Telecoms/DSL/Broadband facilities are available in societies mentioned above?
Thanks in advance. I am sure other Overseas Pakistanis would agree your contributions are greatly appreciated. |
limo replied on Friday, February 19, 2010 01:54 PM PST
@ H.Kaisrani
Thanks a lot for prompt reply.God bless you. |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, February 19, 2010 07:04 PM PST
Suleman,
Thanks for your kind words.
Actually I do not have first hand knowledge and information about DHA Phase 6/7 so it is not good to pass any comments on it.
Sukh Chayn Garden is the best option if its price is equal to Bahria Town. Sukh Chayn Gardens will enjoy same facilities of future road networks which we see for Bahria Town. Rather Sukh Chayn Gardens is directly linked with Multan Road which is a great edge on Bahria Town.
On the other hand Bahria Town has provided facilities (School, hospital, markets, cinema etc) to its residents. The prices of plots are bit less in Bahria Town so my first option would be Bahria Town.
Telecoms/DSL/Broadband facilities are not an issue in Lahore any more.
=== Dear limo: You are always welcome === |
Rahat replied on Friday, February 19, 2010 07:41 PM PST
I am a big fan of Mr.Kaisrani and wish him well. On many points I am a silent beneficiary of his observations and advice. On some of them I followed him blindly and benefited. Some how I have never thanked him in letter but in spirit I always did. So here it is. Mr. Kaisrani thank you what you are doing. Realistic and ground to earth. Keep it up.
I feel little hard to go along with his comment that the house if kept locked for longer periods is ruined. Mt experience is different. I leave my house locked for very long times when I am abroad which is very often and absence extends for months and years. All I do is close ALL inlets to the house, even the drains(rats/roaches can creep up from here), the chimney of kitchen exhaust & exhaust fan, Air conditioner both window and split type. The windows are covered with cloth sheets in addition to the normal curtains.All the furniture is covered with plastic sheets which are reused every year. Main switch for electric and water/gas connections are turned off. The only problem is bills. These are collected by a nominated individual who just pays them I just pay him for his services. It has been working very well for the last so many years. Of course the first couple of days after arrival are consumed in cleaning and reactivating. |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, February 19, 2010 10:12 PM PST
Rahat Sahib! I do not find proper words to THANK you for your views about me and my work.
I confess that my experience is very much related to newly constructed houses (more specially Safari Villas) which are ruined if not taken care of properly. The seepage and termite is the main problem here. You have provided us a solution to maintain a locked home for longer time. Please do share your views in future as these are very useful for many of us. Thanks again sir! |
Suleman replied on Saturday, February 20, 2010 12:38 PM PST
Thank you both for replying and sharing your knowledge. |
Suleman replied on Saturday, February 20, 2010 01:06 PM PST
To Hussain Kaisrani
Can you please recommend an architect and honest contractors/builders suitable for overseas Pakistani's? In my case, it will not be possible to be present in Pakistan all the time during the construction.
I do have relatives in Pakistan who can monitor construction but as you know everyone is busy with jobs and families commitments.
Do you have your own company which can deal with construction?
Thanks |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Saturday, February 20, 2010 07:32 PM PST
Suleman Sahib! Thanks for your Thanks. I am in process of understanding construction business and making team to work with. I am more than satisfied with the services provided by my contractor and his honesty. His name is Allah Bakhsh (mobile number 03218027615) and I take him as my teacher.
I have reached on conclusion that a contract should only be given for labour charges. One should be responsible for the material. It is not only to avoid fraud but it will make your contractor easy for selecting material for your betterment. I will keep on sharing my experience of construction here on this page which will provide a good information regarding material, rates and distributer/supplier.
Architect can only give shape to your wishes and requirements so it is very important that you should be there to explain him what you want. At the process of finishing your presence is very important as any one else can not understand your taste and aesthetics.
At present I do not have any company related to construction. Many friends have asked me for constructing their home but at this stage I am not confident enough to take responsibility. After completing my under construction home, I will be in the position to decide whether I can start it as a business or not. In the mean time you or any other friend are more than welcome to contact me for any kind of help and assistance in or around Bahria Town. |
Suleman replied on Saturday, February 20, 2010 09:10 PM PST
Again. Thank you very much. |
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 Tuesday, February 16, 2010 01:23 PM PST Reply: 
hello
can any one pls write me price of Safari Villas 8& 12 merla will be great full thank you
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| Hussain Kaisrani |
| kaisrani@gmail.com | | City & Country: Safari Villas, Bahri... a Town Lahore | |
 Thursday, February 4, 2010 01:49 PM PST Reply: 
The Construction of your dream home Part 1
Every one wants to have a home of ones own. It is very expensive to have a ready to move home as well as it does not generally fulfil you requirements. Moreover you are not sure about the quality of construction and material used in a ready home. At the same time it is too difficult to construct a home of your own choice. But it is not impossible if you can find a good team and guidance from some sincere and experienced person. You can construct a home step by step if your budget is not yet enough to complete it.
I have passed through all experiences to have my own home without sufficient funds. Six years ago we dreamed to have our 5 marla home till year 2010 as we had arrangement of only Rs. 200,000/= at that time. It was grace of Allah and assistance by friends due to that we were able to shift in an 8 Marla Safari Villa in one of the best housing project of Lahore in 2006 instead of 2010. We financed it from a bank as Bahria Town was providing this facility at that time. Its true that one of the main problem of our age is that our vision and targets are too small which are achieved much earlier than our expectations.
We are happily living in our home and are fully satisfied with the quality of construction after repairing made by Bahria Town in this price. There was no need to think about constructing a new home but one of my friend and visitor of this page (Abbas from UK) insisted (as well as financed) me to involve myself in construction for gaining experience to assist many of friends who want to construct their home but have no idea how to go ahead. I would like to thank brother Adil Saeed and Kashif Chohan Sahib who really encouraged and guided me a lot to say YES to constructing a home. In this series I will share my experiences and knowledge (as a student of construction work) which I am gaining during process of construction of an 8 Marla home in Bahria Town Lahore (210 Ali Block). Quality is our main concern and the same time we are trying our best to control the cost. Knowledgeable friends are requested to correct me if my information and observations are not correct. Also you can add your views in this regard.
THE FIRST STEP for constructing your Home is selecting a housing society if you have not yet bought a plot. It is a very difficult decision and should be made after visiting all available options within your budget. It will be better if you can meet at least three residents (owners of the home NOT the renters) before making final decision. If you have an option please meet the owner of neighboring home/plot to know if there is any negative point related to this specific plot. When you finalize it then the procedure needs to be adopted as per Society rules and regulations. The approval of a map is only possible if the society is approved either by LDA or TMA in Lahore so make sure that Soceity is properly approved. When buying a plot you must physically examine it thoroughly as it should not be much deeper than the road level. If possible it should have a place free of construction so that you may store your material and make a temporary room for storing items like cement etc and your labour/Chowkidar will use it for their rest and stay. Otherwise your cost will be increased in shifting material as per requirement.
THE SECOND STEP in construction is to get possession of your plot. The process or steps may bit change from society to society but generally you need a possession (or demarcation or site plan on paper) from the society. It will show the length and depth of your plot as well as its location from the surroundings. You need exact specification of your plot before planning of map. In Bahria Town Lahore the owner deposits a form along with a prescribed fee and this procedure generally takes a week to complete.
The friends who are really interested to construct a home on their plots should get the possession as fees, rules and regulation keep on changing in the benefits of developers.
Third Step in Construction is to get a map of your home which we will discuss in next part of this series.
 {{{You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along. You must do the thing you think you cannot do.}}}
Habib replied on Thursday, February 4, 2010 02:30 PM PST
Thanks for sahring
Pls give recap of few lines before each part to help irregular visitors like me |
From abroad replied on Thursday, February 4, 2010 06:14 PM PST
Kindly explain in details, if you were satisfied living in Safari Villas then what were the real facts to construct your house, was safari villas living inferior than living in 10 marla house or some other social reasons to shift from Safari villas because some time i also thing to buy and live there.
Regards |
IR replied on Friday, February 5, 2010 12:07 AM PST
Hussain Kaisrani Sahib,
First of all congratulations that you have taken a big step. We do need the knowledge of construction experience of some honest people like you. I hope that it will benefit yourself and all the LRE visitors.
Wassalam |
Abdullah replied on Friday, February 5, 2010 05:05 AM PST
Looking forward to reading the rest of this series ... I'm sure that a lot of us will benefit from it. Regards. |
S.S replied on Saturday, February 6, 2010 09:50 AM PST
Well done Mr. Hussain Kaissrani
You are doing a great job, towards guideline for most of reader of this forum. Most of us are in the stage of thinking to constrict their DREAM HOUSE, in near future. Like others I am also waiting for Part -2 |
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| Hussain Kaisrani |
| kaisrani@gmail.com | | City & Country: Safari Villas Bahria... Town Lahore | |
 Friday, January 22, 2010 07:25 PM PST Reply: 
Frequently Asked Question: Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore - Part 2 
Dear Mr. Qaisrani
I hope you are doin well. I've been visiting your blog now and then in order to research about Bahria Town. I am writing to ask for little piece of advice, should you have time to respond.
Recently I've contemplating buying or building my own house. In my research I Bahria Town tops again and again but I am a bit indecisive about living away from city. I am a businessman and my office is located in center of the city (nearl Mall) and I often drive home quite late in the night.
How practical is it to commute almost everyday to the city center?
Is it safe in general to drive late night with family between Bahria Town and City on Canal Road ?
In addition I've been told in the past that the quality of construction material used safari villas is not good enough. How true is that?
I'll really appreciate you advice.
Best Regards
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Dear Mr. ---- Sahib,
Salaam,
Many thanks for your email.
My work place is on Ch. Zahoor Elahi Road near main market Gulberg. It takes me about 40 minutes to reach there from my house in Safari Villas. Hundreds of Bahria residents commute on daily basis in between Bahria and center of the city. It is about 30 KM but the drive is smooth and hassle free in general. As per my experience we need at least 30 minutes drive from one place to another in the city even if the distance is only 10 KM. Yes! It is bit expensive to drive about 60 minutes on daily basis. I think that it is not a problem if only one person needs to travel on daily basis.
In general it is safe to travel on canal road at late night as we had not heard any incident of security but it is not recommended to travel on canal road after 10 PM. Multan Road is an alternative and very safe and secure 24 hours.
Its generally true that quality of material used in Safari Villas is not good. Practically workmanship remained the issue in Safari Villas. You may find good constructed Safari Villas for buying. If you can spend about Rs.250,000/= (approx.) and a months time on an old Villa (which are on good locations) then it will also be a good option. Old villas could be bought much cheaper than the new ones. If interested in Safari Villas then please visit the villa for sale thoroughly before making any decision.
Please feel free to contact me if you ever think that I am able to do any thing for you.
With best regards,
Hussain Kaisrani
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 Monday, January 11, 2010 04:27 PM PST Reply: 
Schools in Bahria Town Rawalpindi
Can someone shed some light on what options for schools are available in Bahria Town Rawalpindi. The only school I could see in Bahria is the ACE Academy which has fees of 15-20 thousand per month.
AS replied on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 09:09 AM PST
AO Khan School and College is functioning in Safari Villas 1 and Phase 8, which has very nominal fee. |
Imran replied on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 01:13 PM PST
I think very good option. Phase-VIII has great scope of it. |
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 Monday, January 4, 2010 03:08 PM PST Reply: 
Frequently Asked Question - Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore - Part 1
Salamualikum Hussain kaisrani,
Thank you very much and for your time, I purchased a Safari Villas in 41 Lac in Nov 2009 it was brand new and Bahria Town hand over me possession in Feb 2009. We are so happy and thanks GOD.
A little information if you can provide and Will be appreciate for your time
1- how is possible to buy kitchen needs if male member is not in home?
2- water is drinkable after water filtration pro sees
3- any hidden charges out of monthly 1000/1200
4- there is collage for woman?
5- what type of complaint in 8M Serena villa mostly?
6- how many places to buy home grossrey etc?
7- what is famous style in home in safari villas
8- what is regestry cost and details?
9- why DHA home expencive?
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My reply point wise is:
You are welcome.
Its nice to know that you bought a villa in Rs.41/= as this is on going rate for a ready to move villa. I could not understand the dates of buying and possession of your villa. It seems that you are expecting to get possession of your villa in February 2010. I can only wish and pray that you can get possession in time though I have very much doubts in this regard. Have you seen at what stage of construction (finishing) your villa is?
Q.1- how is possible to buy kitchen needs if male member is not in home?
ANS: More than 75 % families in Safari Villas are residing in a way that either their male members keep on travelling or they are working abroad like you. Ladies have no problem in living in Safari Villas as every thing is available on walking distance and its amazingly secure for ladies.
Q.2- water is drinkable after water filtration pro sees
ANS: Bahria Town Lahore has its own water filtration plant. We use it for drinking.
Q.3- any hidden charges out of monthly 1000/1200
ANS: No.
Q.4- Is there a collage for woman?
ANS: Only a Medical college (for MBBS students) is available in Bahria Town Lahore at the moment.
Q.5- what type of complaint in 8M Serena villa mostly?
ANS: Nothing special and specific if there is no seepage and house is in use soon after possession. Bahria Town takes the responsibility of complaints if any.
Q.6- how many places to buy home grossrey etc?
ANS: More than sufficient.
Q.7- what is famous style in home in safari villas?
ANS: Serena and European (In my opinion)
Q.8- what is regestry cost and details?
ANS: No exact idea but it should be around Rs.75,000/=. it is highly NOT recommend to go for registry if you want to sell it at any stage.
Q.9- why DHA home expencive?
ANS: Out of course question for me.
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Steelfish replied on Monday, January 4, 2010 04:35 PM PST
Hussain sb...i dont have anything to do with Bahria...but u took time out to reply some quiries....ur great! cheers |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, January 4, 2010 06:46 PM PST
Steelfish Sahib/Sahiba!
The feed back of unknown well wishers like you encourages me to do whatever I do. Thanks a lot for you sincere comments. I am obliged. |
Tariq replied on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 08:56 AM PST
Kaisrani sahib are prices of Meat, chicken, fruits, vegetables and dairy products as par normal market value like in middle class markets. Can one also shop for cloths in BT. |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:04 AM PST
Tariq Sahib,
Rates are same but there is also an option to get daily use item on more lower rates without compromising the quality if one can cross the walls of Bahria Town as there is a shopping market in Jaliana (village) just opposite of Bahria Town gate.
Ladies are very much involved in selling ladies garments in their homes within Safari Villas. Almost every second day we receive an ad paper invitation to visit some Safari Villa for getting different kinds of ladies cloths.
Besides this there are two shops for general cloths as well but for not the level of variety and quality conscious people. CHOHNG Market on Multan Road Lahore (about 6 Km from Bahria Town Lahore) is also an opportunity for getting daily use items as well as general use clothing. |
Muhammad Zikria Ch replied on Friday, April 30, 2010 03:45 PM PST
Hussain Kaisrani sahib, BT sector"C" mein residences ya construction kab tak start ho gee.
ya Sector "C" private houses k liye alot kia gia he? |
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 Friday, January 1, 2010 08:13 AM PST Reply: 
Renting out Safari Villas, Bahria Town Lahore
Following email and my reply is related to renting out Safari Villas, Bahria Town Lahore.
Hello Mr kaisrani AA
Hope you are in best, i always reading your advices throw internet every time, I appreciate in your honest guidance to the people.
I purchased 8M serina villa in safari villas in Nov 2008, i did not found it in same specifications of house and society in 41 lac according my full budget . Alhamdulliah,
Actually i am living in ..... and i am looking to give my villa for rent from the first of Feb. 2010. Please let me know what rent i expected and if you can help to find me a good and small family and they do keep new as i purchased.
Next thing i saw some of terminate in ground flour entry door and wondering by it was terminated?
Thanks and best regard
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My reply:
Salaam and may thanks for remembering me.
Its nice to know that you are a member of Safari Villas Lahore.
Safari Villas Lahore is a under priced project. Nowadays it is hard to construct a home of same specification in Bahria Town less than Safari Villa price.
There is no problem to rent out a villa in Safari Villa project. The monthly rent is going on 18,000 to 19,000 per month (depending upon the location of villa). Three month's security plus three months advance rent is given to the owner on finalization of contract. You pay half month's rent to the dealer for finding a reasonable family for your renter. Generally civilized people come to reside in Bahria Town who do not destroy the house but when it is used it is certainly disturbed a bit. One can keep these points in the contract that the rentee will give the home in same situation on which he is getting it. Reasonable wear and tear is always expected.
When you will be renting out your villa you need to provide following things properly installed or fixed:
1. Lights in each holder (Which Bahria Town provides on possession)
2. Fans where required (8 in total general) = Estimated price = Rs.15,000/=
3. Geyser = Estimated price and installation and pipes etc = Rs.16,000/=
4. White wash if it is not properly managed = Estimated price = Rs.10,000/=
5. Water points on back boundary of villa as well as on laundry area on first floor = Estimated price = Rs.2,000/=
6. Curtain railings = Estimated price = Rs.8,000/=
7. Net door on main door and kitchen door if not installed by Bahria = Estimated price = Rs.12,000/=
8. Net on all windows (if it is not installed by Bahria) Estimated price = Rs.18,000/=
Number 7 and 8 are optional but good to do so before renting a villa for the betterment of home and renter.
If these all items are installed properly then a renter will have nothing to do to Villa. He can only disturb white wash or colour which is understandable.
A family should be small and reasonable to deal with. You need to start searching a renter from second week of January.
Termite treatment has been done in Safari Villas but if a new home (which is of course wet) remains closed then these problem may occur any time.
Please feel free to contact me if I am able to do any thing for you. Please use my email address kaisrani@gmail.com for a prompt reply.
Thanks.
With best regards,
Hussain Kaisrani
Oversea Pakistani replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 10:26 AM PST
Dear Hussain Kaisrani,
What about the 8 marla house situated in the Ali block.What will be the rent even some dont Have the Gas. Thanks for your usfull input always. HAPPY NEW YEAR |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 10:54 AM PST
Dear Oversea Pakistani,
Ali Block Bahria Town Lahore is better located than Safari Villas and all the houses are newly constructed and have better layout plans but it is not easy to rent (as well as to sale) out a house in Sector B. Generally the houses are made for personal residence or for sale so in both cases there may be only few houses available for rent in Sector B. There is also a problem of nonavailability of gas connection in Ali block which is main hurdle to rent out a house. Besides the quality of security and services in Sector B is not as per standard of Safari Villas. Safari Villas is an icon and Bahria Town keeps on improving its icon in Lahore.
The rent should be around Rs.17,000/= in Ali Block. |
limo replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 02:39 PM PST
Dear Mr. Kaisrani do you recall any incident ever occured because of security being lax in Sector - B.I personally feel that its not fair on part of Bahria to discriminate between Safari and rest of the Sector B residents, specially when it comes to security. Now for instance if i dont want to reside in Safari villas (as there have been frequent complaints about the drainage problems, and poor construction standars) but want to construct a house of my own choice in Sector B,do i have to compromise on security !!! |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 09:16 PM PST
Dear limo,
I can not recall any serious incident ever occurred related to security problem in Sector B BUT I can recall a very minor problem once occurred in Safari Villas with my family in year 2006.
I put packets of fruits and vegetables on my villa's gate and went to see my family in the park as the home was locked and I did not have keys with me. I could not find them in the park so I decided to go for a walk. When came back my family was there in the home and I supposed that the packets were picked by them. About after an hour it was revealed that my family did not find any thing on the gate. I called the security in charge who responded with in few minutes along with his staff who were very much concerned. They took the responsibility without blaming me why I had put the packets outside the gate. I was asked for very minor detail of things and every point was noted down. My life partner get bored with the situation and said to Major Sahib for forgetting every thing as these were eatable things so no problem if some one needy has taken for eating. Major Sahib explained that he/she is his enemy who has taken our things and he will never let his enemy go freely. So a special plan was made to check each and every one on gate. A security person was assigned to keep eyes on garbage drums to find from where the waste of these items come out. etc etc.
After about an hour I was informed that missing items are located and these were delivered to us. This was year 2006 when only few families were living in Safari Villas. Of course the situation may not be as good now.
In Safari Villas security staff takes the responsibility of taking care of a villa in absence of an owner if it is notified to them. I am informed two of Lahore Real Estate visitors that their things were missing and Bahria Management provided new items against the missing ones.
I hear stories that water pipes, wires and kids bicycles have been stolen in Sector B. When asked this to the security staff then they give only suggestions to keep things under lock and key or to have your own watchman etc to take care. It is understandable because Sector B is crowded by too much labour class and too much transportation of trucks, tractors etc is under process day and night and it is NOT a gated wall community yet so security situation is not as good as it should be BUT it is NOT bad either.
Though I have not seen any problem of drainage in Safari and poor constructions has also been managed for (at least) my home even then I have started construction of my home in Ali Block. Though security level is not as per of Safari Villas but there is no need to compromise on security over there. Problem may happen in Safari Villas as well as in Sector B but for any serious complaint security staff will respond. Bahria Town management claims that their special force can respond within five minutes in any corner of Bahria Town Lahore. It also include under development Sector C.
I am sorry for this lengthy detail. Hope the matter is clear now.
=== Tariq Sahib ===
I do not have any proper information regarding Ring Road interchange close to Bahria Town. Sorry. |
Dr Usman replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 11:22 PM PST
Kaisrani sahab, why there is a problem of gas connection in bahria town?Will this problem be solved in near future and does sector c also has gas connection problem.
Regards |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 11:39 PM PST
Salaam Dr Usman Sahib!
Gas connection in Bahria Town is not a problem at all as gas line has been made available by Bahria Town. It is really a great job by Bahria Town Lahore management. The problem is with the Sui Gas office.
We discussed the issue with Malik Riaz Sahib during our last meeting assured us that it will be sorted out within year 2009 as he has brought the matter in the notice of Sui Gas MD. But the problem is still there. I understand it has not been followed by the related Bahria Town office managers.
As per my information one can get gas connection within a month but after paying the COST of time saving.
The good point is that you can apply a gas connection on your plot before starting the construction. In this situation you will be having sufficient time to wait. |
Dr Usman replied on Saturday, January 2, 2010 06:10 PM PST
Thanks kaisrani sahab for the prompt reply. Best wishes for your new house. Hopefully you will share your experience of house construction with us.
Take care
Regards |
DR KHOKHAR,NY,USA. replied on Saturday, January 2, 2010 06:33 PM PST
Dear Kaisrani sb,I am thankful to you for your useful information to all of our friend.i have afew plots in overseas cat A lahore.can you tell me what is deveopment status of that area.how many houses are building there.bahria town promise top notch development and facility in this area.what do you think about future of this area.are the people are moving from lahore to this area.do you think it is good investment.thanks for your information. |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Sunday, January 3, 2010 07:10 AM PST
DR KHOKHAR,NY,USA. Sahib,
Thanks for your kind remarks.
Overseas Enclave A Bahria Town Lahore is developed and ready for construction of houses. Five houses are under construction and one family is residing in a newly constructed house of 10 Marla. I do not see any thing special in development or area which can differentiate Overseas Enclave A from the remaining Sector C other than location. In this price it is certainly a good investment as constructor are flooding to Bahria Town (though too much activity is still in Sector B only but reasonable construction is under process in Sector C as well). |
DR KHOKHAR,NY,USA. replied on Sunday, January 3, 2010 07:19 AM PST
Dear Kaisrani sahib,thanks for you information.one more question.bahria is taking development and possesstion charges.theas charges includes what facilities.thanks |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Sunday, January 3, 2010 12:06 PM PST
The possession and development charges are for providing facilities of electricity, water, gas, parks, mosques etc and these are meant for all community. The detail is also provided on the back of application form.
Possession charges means the demarcation and plot plan provided on paper which is an approval to start process of construction on your plot.
But for getting utility connections for plot (house) the owner are supposed to pay at the time of starting construction. |
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 Thursday, November 19, 2009 05:01 AM PST Reply: 
Malik Riaz Case A Test for Independent Media and Judiciary
November 18, 2009 . 9 Comments
in News
This is the age of independent media in Pakistan that spares no body (read politician) even for this traffic rules breach and rightly so.
Our brave anchors and journalists are exposing the corruption of our political ruling elite and are not afraid to name the top leadership like Zardari and Nawaz Sharif.
No care is required in reporting allegations against politicians by our media men and people of Pakistan are being provided all the information about the politicians who have looted this country.
But the question is: Why this selective bravery??
When it comes to other classes of the elite who committed crimes many fold then politicians, why our interests are the hurdle for the reporting of our business tycoons who are partners in crimes with not only politicians but also with military dictators and generals.
Why this noble profession of journalism becomes business when talking about such mafia.
Why Kashif Abbasi could never utter a single word against these criminals?? Why not a next episode of Off The Record on corruption of this land mafia?
Why Karman Khans revealing stories are always limited against politicians. Why he could never find a single story in all his life against military men and their partners like this land mafia? Are not the corruption cases against them more severe than the allegations against politicians? Why not an exclusive story on Land Mafia to be next in Aaj Kamran Khan Kay Saath?
Why the articulate Talat Hussain finds it hard to utter a single word against this land mafia whose crimes are not more white color crimes even and stories of brutality, torture and murder also associated with them?? Is it because this land mafia has blessing of Khakis?
Why Ansar Abbasi could never investigate about the land grabbing scam of this Mafia? Why Dr. Shahid Masood has no courage to discuss Malik Riaz issue that can give him a break from discussing Zardari all the time
Why this issue cant be part of Mukhbaris of Hasb-e-Haal?
Why Geo becomes dead on this Issue? Shall Geo Land Mafia Kay Saath be the new slogan of Mir Shakil ur Rehman?
No Sir No!!!
Even if you people are compromised or silent due to your business (you call it journalist) interests, we, the people of Pakistan are NOT.
We will not tolerate this. We will stand against this land mafia and we will support any one standing against this Mafia.
No More hypocrisy of independent media please. If you guys have courage, at least admit that you are only allowed for selective accountability directed only against politicians, so these real criminals will always be at large even if its dictatorship or democracy. Your Media Independence mantra is now to be tested. Lets see who have guts to call a spade a spade.
This will also demark the line between Journalism and those who are using Journalism as yet another business where values and morals are non-existent.
This challenge is right there now in the form of a murder case against Malik Riaz of Bahria Town in Supreme Court.
Details are shocking and even more shocking is the bias and tempered coverage by certain newspapers to give twist to the whole issue.
Another tragedy was the unprecedented Press Release of Islamabad Police to favor Malik Riaz as if Islamabad police guys are his personal employees. This is really shameful and must be condemned.
Chill out replied on Thursday, November 19, 2009 07:05 AM PST
Obviously, sounds as you have a personal grudge, and you want the whole world turned against him. Try diverting your energy in doing something positive, like creating jobs in Pkaistan, or to start out with, appreciate good things. The guy you criticize has provided jobs to thousands of people and has accomplished more single handedly than the whole state of Pakistan could accomplish, like security, electricity and all amenities of life for his town in a country like Pakistan, and at an extremely reasonable price. Either you are totally unaware of the facts, or simply have a vested interest. talk to people living in bahria Town, employees of Bahria, its vendors or anyone that has come in contact with these guys, and you will get a diferent story. Apparantly, with success come envy or more precisely, jealousy. I am neither employed with bahria, or have any other interst than visited it and dealt with their staff. It is a top class orgainization and a superb town to live in. Definately a reflection of the vision of Malik Riaz. So Chill out, and be positive while you are at it. Whether its the Islamabad police, or a politician, or a journalist, if they show him respect in his capacity of a president/chairman of a private company, that in itself should tell you his stature and character. He is neither a politician, a state minister or has a position of power, and still enjoys the respect of them all, only due to his personal qualities and accomplishments. |
Nazar replied on Thursday, November 19, 2009 08:12 AM PST
May be there some illegal activities on the part of Malik Riaz. But what we see on ground his plus point or more then negative point. He developed one billion sq/ft lands. Created jobs for 25 thousand peoples and offered the developed plot that can be compared with any international standard housing project just at the cost of one million.
I am not advocating him but just say that in Islamabad G-13 was announced in 1996; solar it is not completed for living. Malik Riaz since 1996 developed the area double to whole Islamabad in Lahore and Rawalpindi.
I only say that if one man is doing well for poor please dont create hurdle on his way instead of supporting. Just think if he went behind bar what will be the future of Bahria Town.
Thanks
Nazar |
Jamal replied on Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:05 PM PST
NRO and KLB was the true test of independent judiciary and democracy.
Which failed miserably.
Security, Sugar, flour, electricity, corruption have increased many folds since free judiciary.
Rupee has devalued and direct foreign investment has evaporated since democrazy.
Children cannot go to school any more women are being targeted specially educated, black water, US and TTP is terrorizing civilians and army alike.
Zero development and delays in previously announced projects, international airlines have ceased their flights to Pakistan and middleastern airlines along with PIA have entered in monopoly situation.
From best performing economy of the world to worst performing economy of the world, only in two years.
What we have acheived is Pakhtoonistan, Sawatistan, Zardaristan, Sharifistan... congrats. |
saqib replied on Thursday, November 19, 2009 08:46 PM PST
I have been dealing with Bahria from the old days when stones were being pelted on them in 1996in Rawalpindi. Some of my close friends said all the things that I am hearing now. Still I invested in Rawalpindi Bahria then and applied for a plot. I now have a plot . Not only that, undisturbed by what people were saying I applied for plots in Lahore, I now have a plot in Sector 'A', 'B' and my children have plots in sector "B". Very recently, when every one was crying foul and every one yelling at the top of his voice against Awami Villas, I bought three of them, at Lahore and Rawalpindi. Let me say ALL of these investments are highly on positive side. I HOWEVER DID NOT INVEST ANY MONEY IN FILES WHICH WAS A VERY SPECULATIVE BUSINESS.DESPITE SOME PEOPLE HAVING MADE TONS OF MONEY IN THIS AN ALL SOCIETIES, BE IT DHA OR WHAT NOT, I THOUGHT THEN AND NOW IT WAS ABSOLUTELY STUPID TO ENTER IN SUCH KIND OF BOILING KETTLE. I have not seen so far any thing where Bahria should deserve that kind of onslaught. IN efficiency, yes. As it has grown bigger some of the speed and efficiency has disappeared. The 'seth' style management has over shadowed the institutional management. But that is the culture of Pakistan. Yes, bahria should now have more institutional management style and subject itself to more democracy and transparency particularly in its future expansion projects, where some how a feeling is that others money is being used for self benefit at the cost of work in older sectors. Some times I get the impression that the award of contracts for work is awarded on personal whims rather than a systematic, fair and transparent evaluation. I am basing my analysis on those haunting Egyptian villas and the quality of work in Safari Villas.
Sure Bahria needs a lot of improvement and transparency in this area. |
Aamir replied on Thursday, November 19, 2009 09:37 PM PST
@ saqib : What an extra ordinary holding power and patience (1996-2009)= 13 years, Impressed..! |
usman rwp replied on Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:02 PM PST
Sure Malik Riaz is a better thief he also delivers,i suggest politicians and establishment should hire him,would definitely assist in further selling of Pakistan in plots shape.DHA has already joined hands with him in pindi.
This is a gone nation. |
saqib replied on Friday, November 20, 2009 12:19 AM PST
Aamir, Then You had installments down payments were low and fair amount of flexibility. So you only bite what you can chew. Not that you speculate and jump in and cant keep up your commitment. It is a sure recipe for suicide.
I sure would like to be enlightened on specific thefts committed by this "big thief" to change my perception of the situation. i haven't except generalized comments. |
tzk replied on Friday, November 20, 2009 12:44 AM PST
Jamal Saheb, judiciary is there to provide just decisions. Judiaciary is neither Administration nor legislature. Dont blame judiciary for the stupiudity of these two departments |
Chill out replied on Friday, November 20, 2009 06:31 AM PST
@ usman rwp,
So if he is a land developer, should he be selling land or you want him to sell you goats, as Qurbani eid is coming soon? Or should he start performing brain surgeries? He is good at what he does. He develops land, and sells it, and people buy it. DHA, being an organisation backed by Pak Army got into Joint ventures with Malik Riaz on Bahria terms. Basically it could not compete with him. Whats your point? |
Saqib replied on Friday, November 20, 2009 06:26 PM PST
Most of the people who are calling foul are either who jumped into the file business or those who do not do any research and bite more than what they can chew. I am sure their would be some genuine complaint as well and there should be but those should be adressed and redressed at a proper forum and manner. |
limo replied on Saturday, November 21, 2009 08:53 PM PST
Tanveer is absolutely right when he says neither media nor judiciary are performing upto the mark.But he does not sound fair when demanding both of these institutions to target only MR.If anyone has committed crime, must be brougt to justice as happens in the civilised socities, but we need to go a long way before we ener into that era.Chillout has put the facts and i agrre with him in describing MR.
@tzk - Does fixing sugar prices and abolition of carbon tax falls under superior judiciary's domain??And why dont we see SC active when it comes to brutal killing of hundreds of Pak citizens as a result of drone attacks!! |
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| Tanveer |
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 Saturday, November 14, 2009 05:22 PM PST Reply: 
I purchased DHA 9/10 file in 4 Million and one file in 2.1 Million in the past. Now the price of 9/10 has become down around 1.3 Million, so is it wise to purchase at this stage the third file.
For 8 M commercial, which area would be better for plaza after 2 years such as Bahria Town Sector-C, Eden city, Air Avene, DHA 6/7,
Lake City, Sukh Chayan. I consider BT-C but some property dealers say that it will take 10 years to be able to make plaza. So they recommend Lake City and Sukh Chayan because of new and good societies.
Your expert opinion would be appreciated.
Regards
Abdul replied on Saturday, November 14, 2009 06:42 PM PST
Brother Tanveer
Brother CMY gave a big news on the balloting of DHA-8 this morning but surprisingly there is very cold response and no joy shown from the reader, this clearly indicate property is no more interest these days. DHA-8 is also half the way in price from golden days. I can not suggest you to buy one more file on these days rates, though it may help to minimize your loss if prices increase but you had already lost twice in 9/10 a third time it will be a foolish act.
I believ from here the price of 9/10 will not go further down but how about if DHA do not start developmnet for 5 years which is imminent and then ask 30lacks or even more for development charges therefore do not try 9/10 again while you do not know the end
Try your luck in other business. |
abubaba@live.com replied on Saturday, November 14, 2009 09:07 PM PST
DHA 9/10: Don't reinforce failure, buy some thing which has some hope. For example, Bahria Overseas which is being developed will go up.
Commercial: What is your budget? depending on your budget go for commercial in the following order:
A. Park View or Air Avenue Or Eden City.
B. DHA 6/7 Comm Blvd.
C. Paragon City ( Make sure to take the possesion and start construction, otherwise don't buy it as their credibility is low).
Commercial property in Bahria Town has little(if any) potential. |
Azad K replied on Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:57 PM PST
I don't see the price becoming much lower than it is now. However I don't expect prices to rise much over the next few years either. If you are a long term holder then it may make sense to buy as many plots as you can at lower prices in order to lower your overall cost, providing that you don't need to sell within the next 10 years. Since you have already bought in that phase there must be things that you like about that phase. After ten years it will be a good location and will be built to good standard maybe even better than the existing phases. The phase is a long term buy and forget type of investment. |
Azwar replied on Sunday, November 15, 2009 01:04 AM PST
abubaba bhai the options you have given are bad both with an investment point of view and from a construction point of view. Parkview and Airavenue commercials are just sitting there and there rates are lower then the were 2 years ago and the are still too expensive. DHA 6 comm is the worst of all it has come down by 70 lac to 1 caror. its only a four marla and there is no population to support is at least for the next 5-7 years but the Sector C comm in Bahria is fully developed with two 5 marla buildings having been constructed and a 15 marla 5 story plaza being constructed. All of the safari Villas and Sector B are its clients and to top it off you can get a 8 marla for 50 lac and start construction right away. I know Bahria's track record is not good but BT is the only place left in Lahore where money can be made now-a-days.
Any way these are fully developed on ground plots where a Govt. registry can be made after the payment of all charges. |
Azwar replied on Sunday, November 15, 2009 01:13 AM PST
Don't forget to bargain hard with the 50 lac demand. Dealers have no Soul (smile) |
abubaba@live.com replied on Sunday, November 15, 2009 08:08 AM PST
Anwar sahib, Thanks for the opinion. Discussions with different point of view are welcome as we learn from each other. rates not with standing i feel that investments closer to the tiangle between Barki Road and DHA Commercial broadway looks good to me as compared to bahria town. I agree with you that developments, town planning, facilities like schools and hospital are plus points of Bahria town and it is gaining in price at a tiem where all other developments are loosers. |
Tanveer replied on Sunday, November 15, 2009 09:23 PM PST
Dear Abdul and others,
Thanks for your views and will not go now for 9/10 file.
I have budget 5 Million just for com. plot and do now know what will be total cost of 8 M plaza. My intension is to make small plaza with total amount around the budget of 5 Million (construction). This means to invest in com. to get good rent( do not know what rent will come) instead of keeping the money in the Bank. I do not want interest, however, people are suggesting me to put this amount in BankIslami or Meezan Bank to get monthly income for the domestic expenses which is halal. If I invest 10 Mio for 5 years, I may get monthly around Rs.80000 (not sure). So if I invest this amount in commercial can I get the same rent and close to it. I want to ask from the colleagues that what is better option and less risk, either to make plaza or to put in the bank and relax. Please let me know if there is any other option. The business is very difficult to do as I returned from abroad and settled in Lahore. So have no experience and I do not want partnership with any one as my one friend lost 1 Million already with his best friend. Some people asked me to do but I refused. I want to get some monthly regular income to meet the expenses. So now can the experts tell me which one is better and, if still to go for com. plot, which is the best area and price of com. plots there.
Mr. CMY is also requested to provide his expert opinion which could be beneficial for others to take a decision.
Thanks for all of you for your valuable comments and recommendations.
Regards |
Gp Capt Irfan (Retd) replied on Sunday, November 15, 2009 10:22 PM PST
Tanveer Sahib keeping money in bank is not adviseable even for the halal income keeping in view the devaluation of our currency. In my opinion construction of commercial plaza will be better option subject to choosing a propective area as beside monthly income appreciation of your property value will be a plus factor. Wish u best of luck. |
Azwar replied on Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:25 PM PST
Tanveer sahib I have spent 3 years researching and investing in Bahria Town Lahore and trust me on this if you buy a commercial plot in Sector C and only build the lower ground (basement)and the ground floor you can make a minimum of 16 shops over there which many property dealers and small time vendors will take on rent from you. Just today I was talking to a property dealer from Anss estate and he said that he wants to rent a shop in BT but Bahria them selves won't give them a shop and he also said if someone make a good location building on the main road then he would pay a minimum of 10 thousand for one shop/office think about it you would be spending a total of 80 lac 50 = plot, 30 = construction and even if only half of your shops go on rent you will be getting more then the Bank and your investment will increase and you will be getting a fixed income. Also what do you think the price of your property will be in 5 years.
This was sincere advice, please at least go and visit and do your own research.
You are right about the Airport area but that is a bit too much investment for the present circumstances, the non rising of property rates. The rest of your points a valid. |
Azwar replied on Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:26 PM PST
the last line is for Abubaba bhai |
Abdul replied on Monday, November 16, 2009 07:49 PM PST
For constructing a commercial plaza and giving it away on rental bases is good but nothing easy for a gentleman in Pakistan. When the business of a tenant gets flourish he do not empty out the shop and if he vacate asked heavy GOODWILL , some time tenant sales his business as whole and take huge amount from new buyer as good will which owner is not aware of. If you can monitor closely and also be present every time a the plaza will be better other wise you might end up selling the shops to the tenant one day
To run this type of business one has to be muscular, intelligent and course full too |
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| Rana Shezad |
| ghana50203@yahoo.com | | Phone:03214213671 | City & Country: Lahore | |
 Friday, November 6, 2009 11:01 AM PST Reply: 
House for sale 
A newly constructed house for sale. It is situated in the heart of Bahria town close to safari Villas Features are
1. Coverd area 2600sft(while safari villas same size 1800sqf)
2. 3 bed rooms with attached bath,poweder,DD,TV Lounge,Kitchen,and beautifull terrace with SS handrail
3. Bath room fitted with SONIC and Grohi fittings
4. Bed room floor with style tiles and TV DD with Booti sina.
5. Quality wood works with imoported locks OXFORD AND YALE.
6.False celing wall to wall
7. Constructed with A class bricks
Pay visit buy or not
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| zulfi |
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 Sunday, November 1, 2009 03:05 PM PST Reply: 
tricon village
any body can inform abt tricon village that after posession 2years what will be rent of 10 marla house.
zufi replied on Sunday, November 1, 2009 03:06 PM PST
pls tell me howz location and what are the rates there
thanx |
shan replied on Sunday, November 1, 2009 03:12 PM PST
rates are there
10 marla 63-65lacs
12 marla 70-75lacs payment in three years.
location up to thokar is good but after 14km jungle and then good but i think you can't get more than 15000Rs rent after 2years because in bahria town rents are abt 18000Rs.
think think think and decide to spend money
best luck |
Burhan replied on Tuesday, November 3, 2009 05:43 PM PST
Tricon is exactly 9 km from Thokar and Safari Villas are 17 KM.Double raod till Tricon on Canal just five mins drive from Thokar.Its single gate community and hundreds of govt houses behind tricon are ready.I would suggest to visit yourself because seeing is beliving.For more details visit www.tricondevelopers.com.pk and if you are intrested to buy i have few houses on good location at better price send me email at burhanmasood@hotmail.com |
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| Hussain Kaisrani |
| kaisrani@gmail.com | | City & Country: Safari Villas Bahria... Town Lahoer | |
 Wednesday, October 28, 2009 08:44 AM PST Reply: 
Malik Riaz Hussain and Bahria Town - The Other Side Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore: A Living Experience (Part 6)
Bahria Town residents had nothing to think what will happen if the news about Malik Riaz Hussain and his arresting appeared in daily times Lahore is true. Only people who wished it should happen seemed worried about it.
What is going on in Bahria Town nowadays shows that Malik Riaz Hussain has no worries about these matters.
Bahria Town has taken extra ordinary measures regarding security and safety of its residents. Bahria Town's front line security men are wearing bullet proof jackets. They have installed more cameras.
Their petrolling police has increased its movements. They have now introduced an Urgent Response Force which can reach in every corner of Bahria Town Lahore with in five minutes.
When all the schools in all over Pakistan were closed Bahria Town School Lahore taken a challenge to open it but with amazing security measures. Later on it was also closed as per Government instructions.
Bahria Town is full of life even in these bad and sad days. Its CineGold Theater is announcing new movies every week.
Lahoris flooded to Bahria Town during last week. Every Saturday and Sunday there are lines of cars, parks are full of kids and families, House full Theater. Bahria Town Lahore is taken as a safest place for family outing.
Bahria Town main roads are full of lights and colours with a different look almost every second night.
Bahria Town keeps on changing driving routes for its residents within Bahria Town for traffic control experiences and security measures.
Bahria Town Management family is planning a marriage ceremony for which out class arrangements are being done from last week which is adding more beauty in the area.
Bahria Town Lahore has itself taken a step to complete the under construction canal road from Thokar to Bahria Town. They are doing work from yesterday (day and night). The speed of work tells that it will be completed the one side today (within 48 hours).
A national level car race was arranged in Sector C on last Sunday.
Water Filtration Plant is also available in Bahria Town Lahore.
No power outage is seen in Bahria Town Lahore. Yes! Its TRUE.
Bahria Town is providing jobs to thousands. They are providing three time meals to its workers along with shelters. Bahria Town's minimum monthly salary package is Rs.8,000/= Besides all these great things Malik Riaz Hussain is an ordinary man (like you and me) and he is also business man and does many things which are, of course, not appreciate able.
limo replied on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 03:01 PM PST
Well said Kaisrani bhi, he is not a saint as we expect everyone to be excluding ourselves.What one needs to look at is, that before him noone has ever provided the lower middle class a chance to enjoy the living standards of elite.His goods definitely outweigh the bads.I have high regard for him. |
tzk replied on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 08:04 PM PST
the problem starts when we behave as extremists. We want a person either to be great or evil (not in between the two extremes) |
khokhar usa replied on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 09:58 PM PST
Dead Kaisrani,thanks for your input.It was worrisome news in usa.however i sincerely think bahria town need to do alot more to satisfy there customer overseas.i still think it is one of the best company in pakistan.although i parsonally have alot of issue with them. |
saqib replied on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:20 PM PST
I really do not know what issues people have with him. We are a groupof people, if we buy a PIA ticket we expect that staff top to bottom should stand before us with folded hands. If we mail aletter with Rs 4 stamp on it, the Director General of Post Office should go and deliver the letter in a tray. All expections but when it comes to doing our part we cannot even keep our house neighborhood clean. I have seen people driving posh cars on canal ahead of me throwing all trash out of the car window. It includes plasticbags/paper bags and even peels of banana and oranges.
God bless this nation. See waht you do and do not do instaed of what otehrs do and do not do.
I am fine with malik Riaz with all hos short comings. He is a trend setter in real stae development in Pakistan. |
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 Tuesday, September 29, 2009 09:19 AM PST Reply: 
Why does Bahria Town Lahore charge per month from its resida
(Its with reference to Post No. 44927. Sorry for starting new thread due to non acceptance of the page in reply)
limo! You are welcome Sir!
In the start (2005-2006) Bahria Town Lahore used to give detail of this monthly charges when the amount per month was Rs.700/= In 2007 they increased the amount to Rs.1,000/= per month and removed full detail. Since last month they increased the amount to Rs.1,200/=. Hope you know that every community has its residants association which manages few common things of mutual interest for the betterment of residents and charge some amount on monthly basis. Bahria Town is economical from all other societies but providing more facilities. Though Bahria Town has not officially provided a complete list of services against this monthly amount but to me these are as follows:
1. Security
2. Cleanliness of Roads and garbage collection twice a day.
3. Water bill
4. Water filtration plant
5. Free transport as per Bahria Schedule
6. Street Lights
7. Parks. Gardening related matters outside of home boudary specifically and inside the homes boundary (on request in Safari Villas) in general.
9. Air conditioned and best maintained Masajid arrangements
8. Fire Brigade (which also helps to throw water in water tank of homes if due to some problem water is not available)
9. 24 hour maintenance service
10. 24 hour ambulance service and emergency treatment (on Rs.50/= fee to avoid unnecessary rush)
12. Celebrations on national days, Musical programs and other recreational activities
13. In short you name it they have it. And Bahria does not charge for all these items other than Rs.1200/= per month.
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Bahria Town Lahore has no problem of power any more. They have developed the system by spending millions Rupees. Generators back up is now an old story. Bahria Town Lahore has its own dedicated Grid Station. I have not seen any power shutdown (for a minute) other than some technical fault during last few months. May be it seems unbelievable but it is true.
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As question was asked about Bahria Town Sector C so I remained in it. Otherwise it is equally true for other sectors of Bahria Town Lahore. Bahria Town charges Rs.500/= as a security when plot is ready to construct a home and the owner does not take possession. Thanks to Dr Usman for making the matter more clear.
limo replied on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 01:22 PM PST
Dear H. Kaisrani, i appreciate your prompt reply.No power outages in Bahria, its an info and really unbelieveable.
Just one point left, Dr. Usman, having a plot in Sector-C has been asked for possession charges by 30th october 2009 otherwise he will be charged a fine @1.5% of remaining dues.
But Sector - B plot holders have no remaining dues, any idea how Bahria is going to charge them for not taking possession.It would be nice to hear from some Sector - B plot holder, who has received notice of such kind.
Thanks again Kaisrani bhi |
Hanan replied on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 05:36 PM PST
Kaisrani sahib previously you mentioned that Bahria Town is building 2 separate roads from Multan road linking to Sector C. Can you please give more information such as, are they under construction right now and where exactly will they be joined to Sector C. |
Regards replied on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 09:04 PM PST
1200 ruppes for 10 Marla house residents or 1 Kanal marla residents, please clarify.
Regards, |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 07:39 AM PST
Dear limo,
Thanks for your kind words brother!
Bahria Town Lahore will charge to its Sector B members for not taking the possession when either they transfer (sell) their plot or request for possession. Until now there is no surcharge on this monthly amount.
Dear Hanan,
Though I never said that Bahria Town Lahore is building two separate roads from Lahore Canal (not Multan Road) linking to Sector C but I strongly believe that it will do so as there is no reason to use (present) Khayabane Iftikhar or Executive Lodges Road for all of its sectors or projects. These links are the road in between Overseas Enclave and Gulmaher Block and the road after Janiper Block near to under construction Islamic Centre. I have no doubt that Bahria Town Lahore will have direct link with Multan Road Lahore but not yet reached to any conclusion of its route. In one of the meeting Malik Riaz claimed that Bahria Town Lahore is only 50% on ground and my vision of its shape, size and facility is still hidden. His wording was Aagay Aagay Daikhiay Hota Hai Kia. Lets wait and see.
Dear Regards,
1200 rupees are charged upto 10 Marla house. Meaning whether a house is 5 Marla, 7 Marla, 8 Marla or 10 Marla the monthly charges will be Rs.1,200/=
For 1 Kanal it is Rs.2,000/= per month. Hope It is clear now. |
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 Monday, September 28, 2009 09:18 PM PST Reply: 
Monthly Charges in Bahria Town and Possession of a plot
Its with reference to Post No. 54960 of Jameel Sahib and Dr Usman Sahib.
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Salaam!
Bahria Town Lahore is charging per month from ALL of Bahria Town residents as follows:
upto 10 Marla = Rs.12,00/= (It remained Rs.1,000/= during last three years)
Upto 1 Kanal = Rs.2,000/=
Upto 2 Kanal = Rs.3,000/=
From above 2 Kanal = Rs.4,500/=
Bahria Town is not charging for water until now. Gas bills are not under Bahria Town controls. For electricity they are charging flat rate of Rs.9 per unit. Bahria Town Lahore has full control on electricity so we are not facing outage of power any more.
These rates for all Bahria residents.
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Dr. Usman Sahib!
Generally there is no draw back if you do not take possession of your plot in Sector C. Its recommended that you should take possession of your plot if you can manage to pay possession charges and not interested to sell it in near future. In Bahria Town policy the only PERMANENT factor is CHANGE. They may increase possession charges or can announce any extra surcharge to whom who have still not got possession. For a safety point of view there is no need to worry. Its equally safe when you got possession letter but the final document from Bahria is possession letter or site plan.
Jameel replied on Monday, September 28, 2009 10:23 PM PST
Thanks a lot Kaisani Sahib, for your accurate answer. I think 1200 is justified Charge |
limo replied on Monday, September 28, 2009 11:10 PM PST
Dear H. Kaisrani, would you please mind elaborating the following
1. <upto 10 Marla = Rs.12,00/month>
Bahria is charging for what, is it to ensure electricity in case of power outages, i heard they have kept two generators, but that was for safari villas.Pardon me if i sound a bit ignorant here.
2. <Bahria Town Lahore has full control on electricity so we are not facing outage of power any more.>
Do you mean they have full back up arrangement in the form of generators, hence Bahria residents are safe from any kind of load shedding.
3.<Generally there is no draw back if you do not take possession of your plot in Sector C.>
Here you are talking specifically about Sector - C, how about someone still having a plot in Sector - B without possession and does not intend to construct a home in coming three years at least.
Thanks |
Dr Usman replied on Monday, September 28, 2009 11:48 PM PST
Thanks Kaisrani Sahab. I recently received a letter from bahria town stating that I should pay the possession charges by 30th october 2009 otherwise I will be charged a fine @1.5% of remaining dues plus 500 per month for security. |
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 Friday, September 25, 2009 10:38 PM PST Reply: 
information about Bahria Town lahore
Putting this question again
Hussain Kaisrani Sahib, would you give detail what Bahria Town Lahore administration is charging per month from Kanal, 10 Merla and 8 Merla Houses, At the same time pls tell about water electricity and Gas rates.
Please also clarify if there is difference in these rates in Safari Villas and sector B self built houses.
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, September 25, 2009 11:14 PM PST
Jameel Sahib!
I remained out of Lahore to celebrate Eid with my parents who live in tribal area of Dera Ghazi Khan. There is no access to internet so I could not manage to go through posts. I am back now and will be replying unreplied posts very soon after obtaining update information. Thanks. |
Dr Usman replied on Friday, September 25, 2009 11:58 PM PST
Dear Hussain kaisrani sahib is there any draw back or is it SAFE if I dont take possession of my plot in sector c which is an on ground plot with all dues clear except possession charges.
Regards |
Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, September 28, 2009 09:19 PM PST
Salaam!
Bahria Town Lahore is charging per month from ALL of Bahria Town residents as follows:
upto 10 Marla = Rs.12,00/= (It remained Rs.1,000/= during last three years)
Upto 1 Kanal = Rs.2,000/=
Upto 2 Kanal = Rs.3,000/=
From above 2 Kanal = Rs.4,500/=
Bahria Town is not charging for water until now. Gas bills are not under Bahria Town controls. For electricity they are charging flat rate of Rs.9 per unit. Bahria Town Lahore has full control on electricity so we are not facing outage of power any more.
These rates for all Bahria residents.
Dr. Usman Sahib!
Generally there is no draw back if you do not take possession of your plot in Sector C. Its recommended that you should take possession of your plot if you can manage to pay possession charges and not interested to sell it in near future. In Bahria Town policy the only PERMANENT factor is CHANGE. They may increase possession charges or can announce any extra surcharge to whom who have still not got possession. For a safety point of view there is no need to worry. Its equally safe when you got possession letter but the final document from Bahria is possession letter or site plan. |
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