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   CMY
Thursday, May 26, 2016 03:50 PM PST 
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Crazy mode of real estate seen in property market this month.
Dear friends from here sab ki doorr apni apni. No blaming to me for loses on new investments from today and I won't ask share from your gains either if your gains are big. .

We are now in bher chal mode. Investing ends here and gambling starts now. Big gains for only those who take big risks.


I am always a chicken in this kinda market so I am going to sit in a corner and eat my yogurt (Of course with fruit in bottom one)


Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)
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Shuaib replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 03:57 PM PST 

CMY sb. can you kindly provide a list of big risk-big reward options ?? budget wise.

say;
a list for 1 crore budget.
a list for 2 crore budget.
a list for 3 crore budget...

dont worry, nobody will blame you. just want to take your thoughts on it.

Regards.
Decent Friend replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 03:57 PM PST 

Hahahahha - Doorr apni apni & chicken mode. Good shot CMY.
By the way, this bher chaal is also hyped by Real Estate dealers & big guns, not by small investors.
Fakher Khan replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 03:58 PM PST 

CMY , Plz. don't scare us that much!
Laiq Ur Rehman® replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:02 PM PST 

CMY sb,
I think there will always be ppl complaining about something. But majority of the people are you admirers. So dont worry about the tiny amount of ppl. You are doing a great job and please keep it up. Thanks.
haadi replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:11 PM PST 

Good shot cmy sb.
Ahmed replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:12 PM PST 

CMY u r great. i bought DHA Multan just b/c of u and now become the beneficiary. I would like to present u Multani Sohan Halwa on this happy moment. Thanks a lot.

Could you please also give ur expert opinion about DHA Gujranwal and DHA Bahawalpur?
Mishkat replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:12 PM PST 

CMY Sb, did you ever accept blame of loses before ? Whats different now?

"""No blaming to me for loses on new investments from today"""
CMY replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:22 PM PST 

Mishkat do aur bi aaj suna dein I won't mind now. Yaar iss sey aap ko khushi hoti hey to mujey yeh be Manzoor hey. Go for it. I promise won't delete it
ZB replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:23 PM PST 

Investment in real estate itself is gambling. If you win you reinvest and keep reinvesting unless you loose and left with no option but to sit aside. It is advisable if you have made profit quit and sit aside before you loose. Unfortunately these investors are making it more difficult for those who are in need of house and money goes to giants .
HussainD® replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:47 PM PST 

Good one CMY bhai, may Allah bless you. The market is really behaving crazy. I hope you don't get disheartened by few people who will always blame others for the mistakes they make themselves. You have always mentioned your expert opinion but it is still an opinion and without any guarantee. Only Allah knows about the future. I and most of the people here on the forum have a lot of respect for you and for your opinion.
Kabooter replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:47 PM PST 

Good one CMY bhai, may Allah bless you. The market is really behaving crazy. I hope you don't get disheartened by few people who will always blame others for the mistakes they make themselves. You have always mentioned your expert opinion but it is still an opinion and without any guarantee. Only Allah knows about the future. I and most of the people here on the forum have a lot of respect for you and for your opinion.
Habib replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 04:52 PM PST 

This is honest Comment on Part of CMY, I was reading between the lines for last one month. Actually it is personal Judgment to invest or not. I remain away from this game. There is simple rule to judge the market. The Bheer Chall does not apply much on ready properties. When you undeveloped Plots start Crossing ready to Make Home property and when ready plots start Crossing Built slightly used homes then Market is inflated,
In 2005 DHA 8 and 6 Files reached near the price of Phase 5 ready possession plot, there were 1000 Logics by so called experts stating DHA 5 will never gain, 8 is Close to airport etc. People lost scores of Money. And now you see price of air avenue and Phase 8 Proper or DHA 7 and Phase 9, same thing is happening
NOW You compare DHA 8 and
MBA replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 05:02 PM PST 

Completely agree with Habib sb.

Developed plots will not have much impact if market crashes.

I have seen overseas invest blindly without knowing or understanding ground realities. They'll even buy land on moon!


Baki sub samajdar hain!

Suno sub ki...kro apni
Miskhat replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 05:32 PM PST 

CMY, I am a lady doctor with no property sense and always invested based on your tips. Didn't mean to offend you at all. What I meant was that you always write it that you wont be responsible for any losses neither you will ask for share of gain. Today you are saying the same. So whats the difference?
Basit Farooq replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 05:40 PM PST 

Good time has started for DHA phase 7, which is undervalued in comparison with adjacent phase 06. LRE always discoraged Phase 07 on location issues. This is a same argument like we saw in case of phase 5 in the past. If someone can drive from Thokar Niaz Beg to phase 06 near golf course location, he sould not worry to cross golf course and enter in phase 07. Only difference is that phase 06 is being poulated but this difference will dilute over the years beacuse construction is also underway in phase 07.
BHB replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 05:49 PM PST 

Just my opinion and not necessary to agree. Allah knows the best. I think property prices will keep on increasing day by day especially for Phase-9. There are not much options available and money is in-flowing from abroad and from inside the country as well. Population in-flow to Lahore on daily basis. There might be some slowdown during Ramadan but close to Eid and after, prices will be sky rocketing. Issue is non-availability of good located plots e.g. in Phase-9 Oval Complex and Zone-1, no body is willing to sell and nothing is available. OC inner cirlce people has started to ask now about 450-500 Lacs and Zone-1 8 marla 150 road asking about 900 Lacs and lots of buyer but no confirm deal. Appears that this discussion will continue and so as the rise in prices as well. Believe still good time to buy or after 3-5 years, when Phase-9 will be developed or close to be development completed, prices will be more than double compared to what we have today and then we will be talking about these days.
M Zahid® replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 05:59 PM PST 

CMY need more explanation of your warning; what was observed and how it will affect the market with some logic would be more helpful.
Asif replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 06:16 PM PST 

So mean it is going to hurt prism also. Never mind because I jumped to prism during the files time . I don't mind if prices go down 20 to 30 %

Please tell us something about phase 9 prism
Asifffff replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 06:17 PM PST 

So mean it is going to hurt prism also. Never mind because I jumped to prism during the files time . I don't mind if prices go down 20 to 30 %

Please tell us something about phase 9 prism
BHB replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 06:17 PM PST 

Just my opinion and not necessary to agree. Allah knows the best. I think property prices will keep on increasing day by day especially for Phase-9. There are not much options available and money is in-flowing from abroad and from inside the country as well. Population in-flow to Lahore on daily basis. There might be some slowdown during Ramadan but close to Eid and after, prices will be sky rocketing. Issue is non-availability of good located plots e.g. in Phase-9 Oval Complex and Zone-1, no body is willing to sell and nothing is available. OC inner cirlce people has started to ask now about 450-500 Lacs and Zone-1 8 marla 150 road asking about 900 Lacs and lots of buyer but no confirm deal. Appears that this discussion will continue and so as the rise in prices as well. Believe still good time to buy or after 3-5 years, when Phase-9 will be developed or close to be development completed, prices will be more than double compared to what we have today and then we will be talking about these days.
Imran replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 06:26 PM PST 

Dear CMY Sir,

Kindly request to elaborate/explain more about your post.

I will be very thankful to you.

Regards,

Imran
jnm replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 06:30 PM PST 

interest rates slashed by 0.5% , making the real estate market further lucrative for investor.
Khalid Azad replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 06:38 PM PST 

This bubble is same as 2005 in property. It's near to blast very soon. Underdeveloped area will be more affected. Beware you will see soon results of this big game.
RA replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:14 PM PST 

DHA Multan Price will be 40 lakh in Zameen Property Expo organized by Zameen Media (Pvt.) Ltd. on dated after 2 days. Nobody will get file before it. ......see you in EXPO.... :t: :uh:
Surfer replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:18 PM PST 

Stay away from Multan & protect your hard earn money this is what I talking few days back. Those who wanna sell. Sell asap those who wanna buy wait for market stability.
RA replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:19 PM PST 

Agree with Surfer..... let the dust settle down ....
ra replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:24 PM PST 

Day after tomorrow dha multan price in Lahore expo will be 40 lakh and file will be available in the market. See u there guys.
Bilal replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:36 PM PST 

Yes Surfer is right. And sell all Prism files too asap.

Especially PRISM A BLOCK and protect your hard earned money :)

Surfer you crack me up dude
ZB replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:38 PM PST 

hi guys : if you have time you will make money on your investment. In short terms no one can tell you that all is matter of luck. But in real estate you will never loose if have time to hold your investment for longer period.
Muhammad Asif® replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:40 PM PST 

CMY sb, thank you for early indication.
Investment is always one's own decision, you have to take the tip ..analyse it and measure it on your own digestion..
Further he is pointing decisions from now on wards :-) and btw gamble can go both way... lets wait, sit and see from here where we go ...
Khalid Azad replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:45 PM PST 

I am expecting a big price correction in next few months in all new under development schemes in Lahore as a lot of Satta is going on. It is the same situation as in 2005. If budget bring new taxes on sales , purchase and holding the plots than it could further add to problems for small overseas investors like myself. Rest Allah knows
Nabeel replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:50 PM PST 

There's always a risk in buying undeveloped plots in far flung areas.

For reputable societies, the risk will only be in how long the development will take. So don't take loans and buy undeveloped plots is my tip ;-)
Password error replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 07:50 PM PST 

There's always a risk in buying undeveloped plots in far flung areas.

For reputable societies, the risk will only be in how long the development will take. So don't take loans and buy undeveloped plots is my tip ;-)
BHB replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 08:08 PM PST 

Just my opinion and not necessary to agree. Allah knows the best. I think property prices will keep on increasing day by day especially for Phase-9. There are not much options available and money is in-flowing from abroad and from inside the country as well. Population in-flow to Lahore on daily basis. There might be some slowdown during Ramadan but close to Eid and after, prices will be sky rocketing. Issue is non-availability of good located plots e.g. in Phase-9 Oval Complex and Zone-1, no body is willing to sell and nothing is available. OC inner cirlce people has started to ask now about 450-500 Lacs and Zone-1 8 marla 150 road asking about 900 Lacs and lots of buyer but no confirm deal. Appears that this discussion will continue and so as the rise in prices as well. Believe still good time to buy or after 3-5 years, when Phase-9 will be developed or close to be development completed, prices will be more than double compared to what we have today and then we will be talking about these days.
Overseas replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 08:24 PM PST 

@Surfer,

Can you please explain your logic. When phase 9 shoots up 2 million in a month without any reason ( i chased a plot there in March and could lock a deal). In one month nothing has changed. Maybe a little bit of that 'fast track development' but still not that fast to justify 2 million in a month. When that happens, you come up with slogans like "prism is a winner", "congrats to all prismers". And when the same thing happens in another investment(Multan) that you don't support, you try to make it sound like its artificial. I believe both phase 9 and multan were hyped and nothing justified a gain from 80lac to 135lac in 6 months in phase 9 too. Why your theories changed in that case?
Kureshi® replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 08:40 PM PST 

Thank you CMY. Agree. There should be a difference between investment and gambling.

Very brave of you to write this post. My respect for you doubles.
Surfer replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 09:21 PM PST 

@ Overseas & Bilal "NOT TALKING ABOUT PLOTS TALKING ABOUT FILES WHICH MAY BE A PART OF GAMBLING NOW ONWARDS ITS YOUR INVESTMENT ITS YOUR MONEY & ITS YOUR DECISSION TO HOLD OR TO GO FOR IT FOR LONG PERIOD OF TIME"
If you want to purchase a plot in Multan it is much fesible to buy it after ballot & hold it for long period of time untill or unless prices matched with Wapda town.
My post is for those small investors who really collect peny peny and buy file for there future & need short term gains for there daily spendings. Not for people like you long term holders. Long term holders should hold it.
I never say this Multan is a bad project but it has its prons & Corns like Bahawalpur.
If you gone through my previous posts & history you will not raise the question regarding PRISM. Overseas sb. they are now plots & right after balloting good plot in A block is available for 70 to 75. I tried hard to educate people on this forum to buy. But with the passage of time By the GRACE of ALLAH & different factors like Boundry wall, fast pace development, LRR, added to support PRISM appreciation.
My Solgans will remain the same & I never do back from them. There is no Comparason between Multan & PRISM. But people like you forced me to do that & made Comparative analysis for these two projects with results. Yes Multan is hyped because it is not supported with any elements. & its just a file. PRISM is my favourite not before balloting but after balloting when I see its Potential.
I am not a file lover but always support good Projects & its plots after balloting.
Now come to PRISM again almost all 150'ft road is near to Completion by the end of this year. This is the reason of Prism present increase you are late to get a good plot in PRISM in near Future. For this you have to spend more.
Now tell me your reason of Multan hyped? If you are unable to answer my question then I consider this hyped of Multan as Artificial Hype?
Surfer replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 09:25 PM PST 

My post for overseas is not displayed.
KKH replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 09:52 PM PST 

My 20 years experience says CMY is absolutely right, it is pure gambling going on now, market is way too unpredictable, no one can guess what route it will take, investors needs to be very careful.
Reborn® replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 09:56 PM PST 

Keep dollars with you, and buy property after 3/4 months.
Aamir replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:01 PM PST 

Dear CMY,

Some of us, like myself, have little or no clue regarding the property market and rely on your expert opinions to firm up our investment plans. It is only because of this that we are imploring you to shed some more light on the ' bher chal' phenom who have so subtly touched upon.

For the sake of us ignorant fools, please explain what you forecast is happening and more importantly is going to happen in the post budget scenario.

Sincerely yours,
Aamir
Hassan replied on Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:33 PM PST 

@CMY. Thanks for your clarification. After installment plots booking can DHA issue affidavit files for Phase-1 or it will be for phase-2.
syed replied on Friday, May 27, 2016 12:09 AM PST 

i think its for lahore , 300 billion project wont complete overnight , drone attack in baloch , govt looses credibility , taxe's coming , big giants always get out in bad circumstances and others suffer . it;s true at least in lahore bubble is about to burst , cmy and others watch out
Ali replied on Friday, May 27, 2016 12:20 AM PST 

Thanks for the clarification CMY sb.

Lahore property will still rise due to the huge infrastructure investment and development. No need to panic.

And beware of those who are trying to create it here on this forum.
zebra replied on Friday, May 27, 2016 01:38 AM PST 

Pls advise it is a good time to BUY or SELL DHA Rahbar Phase 2 Commercial Files
Uncle Jee replied on Friday, May 27, 2016 04:36 AM PST 

Zebra;
I don't see any further gain until ballot on these files.
Better sell it and buy DHA phase 9 town 5 Marla on ground plots.
You will secure your investment and gain too.. You can easily get 4 good location plots and same will be In Sha Allah 80 each in one year time.. Once 80 sell all of them to switch to PRISM with 350 lacs and buy 4 Marla commercial..
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