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Monday, October 24, 2016 10:12 PM PST 

Today, Property dealer Strike on Mall road Lahore against Taxes. :cl :cl

ali replied on Monday, October 24, 2016 11:54 PM PST 

Instead of clapping we should also take part in it.

HHH replied on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 01:39 PM PST 

Too little, too late. They were dozing off during negotiations with the government.

Arif replied on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 03:47 PM PST 

Dear All

I was there in gathering of dealers , infact no dealer have concept of taxes , rate of taxes is a seprate thing , no dealer can explain about taxes to buyer or seller.

Mahmood® replied on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 08:21 PM PST 

The introduction of tax is betterment of the country and to document economy. Instead of criticizing this for personal gain we should support that in the best interest of country.

Those people should be scared who have black money looted from you and me we should discourage them.

S replied on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 09:43 PM PST 

khotai sikkai..........

Observer replied on Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:44 AM PST 

Mahmood taxes are better if well spent on public welfare but in pakistan tax payers money end up in panama or bahamas accounts.

1191 replied on Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:52 AM PST 

Observer, 2 wrongs dont make 1 right
for improvement in usage of taxes, we need better govts NOT 0 taxes

Observer replied on Wednesday, October 26, 2016 01:34 PM PST 

@1191, and from where that better govt. will come? these morons are governing since decades. no one can remove them But Allah
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Saturday, October 15, 2016 11:54 AM PST 
Query

I am overseas Pakistani. I want favorable guideline from the forum, thanks in advance for your valuable comments.
I bought property in Pakistan, now I want to know the safe and good way to transfer the money to seller. My options are
1:- Pay order from my account in Pakistan.
2:- Check from my account to seller account in Pakistan.
3:- Cash payment from my account in Pakistan.
4:- Transfer remittance direct to seller account from abroad.
5:- Option 1,2 or 3 if any other taxpaying account in Pakistan.
Kindly note that I don’t have taxpaying number in Pakistan.

HHH replied on Saturday, October 15, 2016 03:08 PM PST 

Pay order is the best option. It will keep records straight for any eventuality as per government rules.
Never transfer money to someone else's account from abroad. He will be black for you and white for him. Always transfer to your account and keep all documentation for your record.

LOYAL PAKISTANI replied on Saturday, October 15, 2016 07:17 PM PST 

Any option suitable to you depends upon the need n safety.

Hassans replied on Saturday, October 15, 2016 08:44 PM PST 

LRE & Experts - appreciated ur feedback

Salman.A® replied on Sunday, October 16, 2016 01:09 AM PST 

Best option is number 1.

PO from your account in Pakistan.

Transfer remittance into your own account in Pakistan and then make purchase order from your account in favour of the seller.


Don't worry about Tax number. Do the legal procedure all other matters will come in line.

HussainD® replied on Sunday, October 16, 2016 02:30 AM PST 

AoA,
My two cents, transfer amount to your account in Pakistan and then pay from your account through pay order. You will have to pay withholding tax but it is safe and authentic way. Keep copies of your transfer, encashment certifcate issued by your bank and pay order. You will have no problem in proving the source of funding if asked by FBR later.
Best regards

User_19342® replied on Sunday, October 16, 2016 03:25 AM PST 

Transfer money to your account from outside Pakistan. You can only take benefit of remittance if it is received in your own account. If you have time, quickly fill last three years returns and become of filer. It will save you lots of additional payments.

Always pay from your account in any banking mode. Dont pay cash. It will be considered black.

ahmed replied on Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:43 PM PST 

Normal way is to send money to your account in Pakistan and then make a bank draft and hand it to the seller once the plot is being transferred on to your name in DHA. save the remittance receipt as it will be required later to claim it is remitted money.

User_14679® replied on Monday, October 17, 2016 02:38 PM PST 

Dear NMS,
Adopt a very simple, neat and clean strategy.
In my opinion, either don't buy or sale if you don't have time.
Trust yourself (90%), come and complete deal by yourself. This may require you to spend some additional money but save you from lot of risks especially from the people whome you trust.

Regards
KM Siddique
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Thursday, August 18, 2016 01:11 AM PST 
Cisco

Cisco to sack 14000 employees. This is the situation of global market.

kisco replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 01:39 AM PST 

chal koi na, haoo,,,, maaf kar deo su

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:15 AM PST 

@ kisco, problem is that any message, word, text or image you transfer over Internet, must go through a Cisco box. کیسے معاف کر دیں۔ Closly watch global impact on Pakistan. No idea how many will be from Pakistan & all Pakistanies working & living abroad are potential buyers of property in Pakistan.

AhmetKildir® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:42 AM PST 

This isn't big news. Every day someone is hiring and someone is firing. CISCO firing and Healthcare and civil engineering hiring at all time high.

Arif M® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 04:22 AM PST 

Overall world is moving towards recession phase. Those work in corporate sector can easily sense it. All these corporations design their HR policies (hirings, increments, lay-offs) according to economic conditions. It is not about pakistan but corporations all around world are sensing recession. It might not affect Pakistan as bad but it is certainly good to know about global economical conditions.

HassanHC® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 05:30 AM PST 

Sir jee these are newspaper clippings. Apple Google Tesla Facebook are hiring and some are firing. This will go round the year.

On the side Property in US is booming so ppl have money.

SaeedUSA® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 09:26 AM PST 

Cisco is laying off because they got stuck in server
Business which is slowing down because of clouding technology.
All their people are moving to vmware company. They are hiring
Them right and left.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 09:32 AM PST 

Earlier Microsoft layoff 33k, HP 18k & Intel 12K, no one took it serious. This is not due to recession, a major technogy shift is going on. Somehow it is recession due jobs cut. These nos aren't small as this is transfering from principals to partners (including partners & employees belong to Pakistan or in Pakistan). As oil sector in pressure, all related to hardware will be disturbed now as companies are moving towards software centric solutions. There are business & carriers oppertunity too. Need to catch instead of become one of looser.

SaeedUSA® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 09:43 AM PST 

Mr Hassan hit the nail. Next 50 years are all about software
And our politicians/govt is not focusing on that side.india
Is the number one benefit of that.

HHH replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:42 PM PST 

Cloud technology doesn't need servers?

Arif M® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:10 PM PST 

@HHH It does. but the point is the quantities required in future will be far less as compared to past. As the world moves to cloud technology the end users of hardware will be fewer as compared to past. Just look how Amazon and Google cloud services have changed the whole dynamics. Companies see lot more profit in software/cloud based services as compared to hardware. Just my 2 cents.

Nabeel® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:32 PM PST 

While global markets are down, these things are cyclical in nature for most countries.

The Middle East and the oil crisis however is a different matter. A new paradigm shift has happened due to the oil and the days of overflowing coffers are gone. First-movers (& agile) places like Dubai have quickly moved to balance their books by introducing new charges and fees on a regular basis. UAE in general will be able to have a self-funded economy in a few years.

Countries like Saudi, who were caught napping, & are too bureaucratic are in deep sh#t

Mansoor replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 06:47 PM PST 

@HHH !! Mainly, cloud technology does not require onsite servers. As for example, on-premisis exchange to move in Office 365 cloud. File server is converted with online file server. Cisco firewall is exchanged with cisco meraki cloud managed security. To cap it all, we are moving towards cloud computing and virtualization. A single person may work alone now which was earlier require a full dedicated team.

alpha replied on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 03:42 AM PST 

bigger threat to lahore real estate is Uber self driving cars and self drive trucks - cab / truck driver bradari in US will be out of job

cisco is a dinosaur of the past
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Monday, August 15, 2016 10:39 PM PST 

embers ,

I wants opinion that i needs to invest 25 lac in property . is it good to invest in files or good to buy a plot only . please guide me where to invest and what is the best opportunity for me .

Jazak Allah .

User_19762® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 02:40 AM PST 

Ahmad bhai, may Allah give you quick health, keep sharing your knowledge many people doesnot have exposure like you. Sharing knowledge is also sadqa jaria

HHH replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 04:04 AM PST 

Ahmad Hassan
How can I get more information about buying land in Lilla. Thanks.

Muhammad asad replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:53 AM PST 

Dear Ahmad Hassan please brief and clear yours above point.it's very helpful for us.
As where are haseeb super millat area and

Muhammad asad replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:55 AM PST 

Where are these areas Ahmad sb please clear more liLla and Mill area location. I wish to see them both

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 01:24 PM PST 

Lilla Interchange is on M3. H W sugar mills in Nankana SB. Following documents can help you to understand scope of Lilla Interchange

http://irispunjab.gov.pk/CitiesPdfs/Base_Map_Iris.pdf

Muhammad Asif® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 02:31 PM PST 

AoA All,
Great contribution Ahmad Hassan sb.
Where do you live in Middle East?

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 03:40 PM PST 

Here is link for Lilla interchange
http://irispunjab.gov.pk/CitiesPdfs/Base_Map_Iris.pdf

I live in Abu Dhabi

ShahzadQamar® replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 05:43 PM PST 

haseeb waqas sugar mill land in nankana area seem to be all cultivated so i dont think any non-cultivated land will be available in 5 lac per acre in that area. If it is available, I think that will be a great option.
Near Lilla interchange, it seems to be a big risk as the land might not be possible for cultivation in next decade or even more. But I really appreciate out of the box thinking and proposals by Ahmed saab. Will see you inshaAllah this weekend

Lahore Real Estate replied on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 09:10 PM PST 

Dear Mr Yasir,

You can purchase 10 Marla file in DHA Gujranwala, Its safe and recommended.

Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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Sunday, August 14, 2016 07:32 PM PST 
RATES are falling down

buyer is absent from market , sellers everywhere , market will crash soon till how long people keep on holding plots for gain dream , once some one with out holding power sell it in corrected rate trend of price cutting will start . in 2005 mush era was not bad and punjab lahore was moving good but prices not

Kureshi® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 07:37 PM PST 

Just curious , What is the intent of this post. Information ? Caution ? Warning ? Good news ? Bad news ? Creating panic ? Hamdardi ?

Real Estate is best replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 07:38 PM PST 

Allah Malik o Razik hai☺

Pakistan® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 07:38 PM PST 

Let him say

why sharing truth is creating panic ?

AhmetKildir® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 07:55 PM PST 

Someone dreaming for a bargain.

Chaudhary® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 08:01 PM PST 

Mr.User-6006 grapes are always sore for u dear, my poor user

Kureshi® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 08:08 PM PST 

Who am I to stop anyone from commenting but I have the right to share my curiosity, sir.

Real Estate is best replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 08:13 PM PST 

@6O06 people cannot stop/restrict buying property just because govt has imposed some insane taxes on it. Lots of mega development going on all around lahore. Wishing that prices will crash shows that you don't have any stake in real estate and desparetely want to have something

User_19995® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 08:22 PM PST 

yes i agree with all of you here. I think he seems to be living in dream world. See the prices in diff schemes are increasing on daily basis even after this all taxes thing.

He is saying market is crashing if no buyer is there how the increase can be seen.

KK® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 08:37 PM PST 

actual rates in market increasing day by day , no negative impact at all,, i am a buyer but not able to find plot in y bydget

KK® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 08:37 PM PST 

actual rates in market increasing day by day , no negative impact at all,, i am a buyer but not able to find plot in my bydget

Z.F replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 09:32 PM PST 

Market may trade kum zaroor ho rai hai lakin prices stable hai aor kum honay ka koi chance nai hai Sir.

User_9629® replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 10:31 PM PST 

I know one thing i want to sale my goid location plots each 5 marlas in prism 9
Everyone gives very charming estimates
But couldn't get a single offer less or more for last 25 days.
One thing for sure market has no buyers.

tallat replied on Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:12 PM PST 

Like it or not its a reality market is not the same as it was a few months ago, every thing is on a hold

Muhammad asad replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 12:31 AM PST 

The market is down side no byer in market after taxes. The winner will be those who understand and sale properties in further Slump.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 01:18 AM PST 

1. Necessity never made a bad bargain. Buyers are in market but less than before, prices are not going down also. Investors are more afraid from FBR than taxes. If someone can get data, he will find more transactions/queries for less than 4m values plots.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 01:35 AM PST 

I used term ذخیرہ اندوز specially for those who are holding files/plots in 100s. Buying land for agri to build & sell himes commercial space is ok. Please don't become against me. It is just a thought. I could be mistaken. It is debateable.

LOYAL PAKISTANI replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:03 AM PST 

Mr. Ahmad Hassan, you are really brave and have valour in your words. We should be optimistic and He, Allah Pak will save us from bad luck.

Aldwin® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:09 AM PST 

Ahmad Hassan
This site is mostly visited by investors who want to see their investments grow. I am one small investor myself. But I agree with your point 100%. Since investors started putting money into real estate in 2003, it has become more and more difficult for middle class salaried Pakistanis to build one home for themselves upon retirement. I would personally like to see that era return where educated people can think of building a home for themselves. But unfortunately, real estate is now a money making business for lots of people including overseas Pakistanis and who can blame them. Such high returns where money is doubled within a year without any effort or insecurity, is too much of a temptation to resist.
However, for those who visit this site, please show some empathy (in theory) for those brethren who cannot afford such high prices real estate. There is nothing wrong if market slows down or prices come down a little !! If anyone suggests this, why does he suddenly becomes an enemy who has nefarious designs against humanity, at least that's the impression left by several comments. I see so many people pumping the market here day and night, which they think serves their investment purpose. So be it. Let others also voice their opinion. Difference of opinion is a sign of healthy society. No one can take your profit (rizq) away from you no matter what comment he leaves here. Please don't kill me over my comments...peace.

Kureshi® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:33 AM PST 

Just as food is a necessity as well as a halal business , real eatate is also a necessity as well as a halal business. Without investors there will be no developers and without devwlopers , there will be no housing societies. Dearth of houaing societies will lead to higher rates. So please stop making investment in property a sinful business.

My 2 cents. Apologies in advance if I offend someone feeling.

User_9325® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:46 AM PST 

real estate trading is halal. zakheera andozi which yu are refering to is only forbidden in eatables. go and consult a religious scholar before declaring thousands of investors as sinners. please dont pass judgements. yu can find many fatwas regarding this online also. if yu are not satisfied with this business then stop doing this, why do yu declare all of us sinners?

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:56 AM PST 

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not artificially inflate prices.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see Fath al-Baari, 10/484).

I didn't say that property business is sin or all are doing sin. But any act of price esclation either food or trade is not permitted. It gives benefits to few but harmful for majority. Now same applied in society or residential plots business or no. This is debateable. And what societies & investors are doing for price esclation. We all know.

User_6006® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 04:01 AM PST 

I found people saying sin sin are more sinners , beard is sunnat every mulla can teach u but what are real sunnah doing good with others,not revenging even u can, speaking truth, taking care of neigbor , informing others , spreading education etc I told truth , allegators can put allegations some may be true yes I m desperate to buy , who is not desperate over here

but I told truth may be its lame or not fulfilling your interest , but use common sense may be may be societies near ring road survive it but prices will drop for sure as I am seeing people started investing in other thing and govt policy is against property market . Few buyer vs seller , what it have to do with govt investment in lhr when trade wont happen often like past .

User_6006® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 04:01 AM PST 

I found people saying sin sin are more sinners , beard is sunnat every mulla can teach u but what are real sunnah doing good with others,not revenging even u can, speaking truth, taking care of neigbor , informing others , spreading education etc I told truth , allegators can put allegations some may be true yes I m desperate to buy , who is not desperate over here

but I told truth may be its lame or not fulfilling your interest , but use common sense may be may be societies near ring road survive it but prices will drop for sure as I am seeing people started investing in other thing and govt policy is against property market . Few buyer vs seller , what it have to do with govt investment in lhr when trade wont happen often like past .

User_9325® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 04:04 AM PST 

this is a new fatwa. however , I strongly believe that real estate investment is a totally halal business and the hadith yu quoted is specifically meant for eatables. I am yet to find a credible scholar giving any fatwa against real estate investment. Infact moulana tariq jameel sb himself invests a lot in lands. thereby I strongly dis agree but since yu have doubts , so yu should stop investment in real estate, simple. but i am sorry im not convinced with this nerrative of yurs

Kureshi® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 04:04 AM PST 

Then why keep coming back to a forum which is which is meant for discussing and strategizing this "sin" as a registered sinner :)

Ahmed bhai , this does not change my respect for you as an expert and a brother.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 11:53 AM PST 

1. I don't ve authority to judge or apply any FATWA. I also didn't say that buying or selling land or doing real estate business is sin. Please don't interpret things other way.  One can buy land, develop society and sell with جائز منافع.

User_9325® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 01:43 PM PST 

then please sell all yur holdings to me in half price. as property prices escalated a lot in last one year and yu believe it to be najaiz profit so plz sell yur holdings at january 2015 prices. im the buyer. we can deal thru lre. regards

talal replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:01 PM PST 

Ahmad Hassan is right hoarding of every thing is bad, as it gives rise to unjustified prices, every one knows how big fish play in real estate market ,so guys get off his back plz

MFA® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:18 PM PST 

We as a Paksitani nation need to learn a lot on sharing ideas, discussion and difference of opinion.

Real Estate is best replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 02:36 PM PST 

All who are advocating that hoarding is bad and engaging people in the debate of halal n haram, they are just not aware of basic economics principles, we are dealing in paper curreny which has no intrinsic value, in olden times there were dinnars/coins which had intrinsic value and there was no concept of devaluation of money. but now there is a big threat of devaluation of paper currency which has extrinsic value so to protect our money agaist devaluation buying property is best solution so that the increae in price of property hedge against devaluation

User_9325® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 03:03 PM PST 

and those who are advocating against hoarding of plots, I am hundred percent sure are themselves property investors/ hoarders thats why they land on this page frequently otherwise a person who is against property investment , will never ever visit this page

tallat replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 09:25 PM PST 

Real estate is best people are investing these days in foreign currencies. Its paper too?

User_9629® replied on Monday, August 15, 2016 09:42 PM PST 

Escalated and inflated property prices are 20 % real money (remittances)
Rest its inflation which govt want to get rid off
Playing with property and files with ways used by hoarders is condemnable.
It has made life difficult for common man.
A top govt employee of 21 grade can't even afford 5 marla house, and u people say its not hoarding
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Sunday, August 16, 2015 06:27 PM PST 

AOA,

I came across this nice web site and want to inquire about buying a plot in State Life 2.

Coming to Lahore in next 30 to 45 days and thinking to buy 2 plots of 1 Kanal each at State Life 2 for investment purpose for for next 2 years. Anyone can advise me if I am doing the right move for investment for next 2, 3 years?

Thanks
Ahmed

HHH replied on Sunday, August 16, 2015 07:03 PM PST 

it is your choice indeed but there are better options with less risk

Shahzad replied on Sunday, August 16, 2015 09:36 PM PST 

In my opinion avoid slf-2. Risk is pretty great and already many rumors about it in market. Try to invest in some secure society like dha , Bahria(on ground only) etc.

deem replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 12:54 AM PST 

Ahmed: Your research is absolutely right. SL2 is the top most attractive society with less prices at this time in the market. It has already given double return to its owners in one year. Some people who dont have any plot in this society are trying to spread rumors and trying to keep people away with their wrong means. please dont listen to this kind of people and look at the success. Prices of SL2 are still increasing everyday.....

Nadeem Malik replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 01:59 AM PST 

A lobby want to capture many plots of SL2 by spreading rumors that SL2 will neither developed nor merged with DHA PRISM 9. actually they included State Life Associations (Management) are trying their best to keep the paper work very slow and to get as many as they can acquire plots from plot holders by various rumors in the market. i request all the plot holders not to afraid the situation. the future of the sl2 is bright as the surrounded societies are going rapidly high

HM replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 11:30 AM PST 

One should go on site and see the large pit holes before saying it top location.

Mohsin replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 01:32 PM PST 

ok. Then please tell about the current price of 10 marla in state life phase 2.

deem replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 01:54 PM PST 

HM: Pt holes is not a problem in today's time. It can be filled within minimum time. It will just add another a couple of hundred grands in development charges. Come on man, you are living in 21st century and talking about pit holes....

Ahmet replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 01:55 PM PST 

For those hoping to double their money with the expectation that their 1 kanal SL2 will be replaced by a 1 kanal prism - please dont fall into this trap. Mainly because:
1. Your betting on a chance that it will merge with Prism
2. Your 1 kanal SL2 will NOT turn into 1 kanal Prism rather 10 marla or 5 marla Prism if the merger happens
3. Use your capital to invest in a good location 5 or 10 marla plot instead. This will be a risk free investment.

Ali Kamran replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 07:05 PM PST 

It seems a lobby trying to create hype that sl2 is going to merge with dha prism soon. There is nothing on card right now intact sl2 is under pressure for not delivering since long time. Check article on sl2 on lre written by CYM sb few months back.

Everyone please do proper research and consultation before investment.

FQ.awan replied on Monday, August 17, 2015 07:09 PM PST 

I think Bahria Orchard is better option for short term investment.STL2's land is deep and difficult to develop, but if you agree to take risk then good. Do not believe in rumors of merging in dha.There is no reality in this news.only dealers game,you can also invest in dha 9 with same budget.
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Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:47 PM PST 
DREAMS GARDEN (OPPOSITE COMSAT UNIVERSITY LAHORE)

DEAR LRE EXPERTS,,,, PLEASE ADVISE FOR INVESTMENT IN DREAMS GARDEN LAHORE ( AZHAR MANOO GROUP) LOCATED OPPOSITE OF COMSAT UNIVERSITY. YOUR COMMENTS FOR BOTH POINTS PLEASE, 1- INVESTMENT 2 - CONSTRUCTION OF DREAM HOME. BEST REGARDS AUR 14TH AUGUST AZADI MUBARAK TO ALL PAKISTANIS :1) :pkf

Hhh replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 01:06 AM PST 

You have better options available in that price. Dream Garden is on hadiara Drain so avoid buying any plot or house near that

Phase 9 replied on Wednesday, August 12, 2015 03:52 PM PST 

Invest in Gullu Butt Societies and forget your investment.
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Sunday, June 21, 2015 07:02 PM PST 

Hussain kaisarani sb!!

I have heard Bahria town has imposed some development charges on awami villas Lahore... are yu aware of this development?? if yes then how much are the charges, installment size and when is the first installment due?? thanks

dubai


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Hussain Kaisrani replied on Sunday, June 21, 2015 10:56 PM PST 

No brother, I have not heard about it yet though imposition of some charges is expected in near future.
I will share it here till Tuesday if such announcement is made.


dubai replied on Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:46 PM PST 

kaisarani sb...its confirmed.. Bahria has imposed the charges. its 2 lacs plus..will get the exact figure tomorrow morning.. actually i sold my file on friday and today dealer told me about this development that I have been saved as buyer will now pay the charges.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 12:05 AM PST 

Thanks for the confirmation though it is only a dealer's announcement.
No such announcement was made till Saturday morning. I am expecting an amount of Rs.250,000/= to be imposed.
How much you got from your Awami Villa's sale. Was it a Standard or premium Villa?
Best of luck for your sale.

Moin Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 12:15 AM PST 

@Hussain Kaisrani: Sorry for throwing out of topic Q here. Did anyone get possession of Ghazanvi/Shesha in Sector-F?

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 01:00 AM PST 

@Moin Khan Sahib,
I was of the view that possession of Ghazanvi and Shershah Blocks of Sector F is not yet offered.
Hafiz Sajad Sahib stated on this forum that possession has been given. He is a very learned person about Bahria Town projects so we should believe the information provided by him.

Moin Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 01:09 AM PST 

@Hussain Kaisrani

I got SHOCKED/SURPRISED to hear that. Since there is no news about this so I though to get a second opinion from you.

Hafiz Sajad Sahib seems to be the GURU of BTL and has mentioned that 5 houses are under construction and 10 mapped are approved for construction. It came as a big time surprise as if this is the case then why BT is not beating the drums about this.
Still can't believe!!!!


Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 01:19 AM PST 

@ Moin Khan

There are many reasons that Bahria Town can not afford to beat the drums and the main reason behind it, is that Sector F is not an approved project. Bahria Town did not own it (or at least will avoid to announce its activities) in the national newspapers etc etc.

Secondly Bahria Town Lahore management likes to keep its market slow. Again there are many reason behind this approach but the main one is to reduce the memberships of its non existing projects.
Hope this makes some sense.

Moin Khan. replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 01:35 AM PST 

@Hussain Kaisrani. Thanks for the update!
It seems like they overbooked Sector F and unable to get the required land that they have planned initially. Now trying to reduce the membership by either buying back to keep a low profile so that prices do not appreciate or merging which is gong at moment.

Ref: >> Sector F is not an approved project.
I guess sector E is also not approved BUT they have advertised that they completed the development in record time.

Thanks again for your input!

dubai replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 01:40 AM PST 

@kaisarani sb... it was a premium villa file.. it sold in 17,80,000 rs....actually i want to exit from bahria and invest in DHA...just winding up everything from bahria... fed up of these cunning tactics..atleast DHA will give peace of mind that my investment is in safe heaven of army scheme :)

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 01:55 AM PST 

@ Moin Khan,
You got the point.
As per my understanding Bahria Town has not made any announcement regarding its Sector E in national newspapers. I may be wrong if you have personally seen Sector E advertisement.

@ dubai,
You got a good price and it is a good return on your investment.
One should move to DHA if not satisfied with investment in Bahria though Bahria Town is equally rewarding in general.
Yes, Its cunning tactics and games are creating disturbance to many of its members.
Good Luck brother!

Moin Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 02:17 AM PST 

@Hussain Kaisrani.
I can see an upward movement in the prices of Ghazanavi block for last couple of months.
That supports what Hafiz sahib's point that 5 houses are under construction and 10 maps are approved for construction.

Thanks an bunch!

Hafiz Sajad replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 03:28 AM PST 

bros let me tell you something the reason for possesion is that Quaid block is next to ghaznavi block, i dont remember the rates but 6-8 months ago people with a low budget bought at the end of bt(quaid) to make a house to save 15-20 lac in land cost which would ensure completion of their 10 marla house. i remember a rate diffrence of 8- 10 lacs between quaid and ghaznavi blocks on ground u cant tell the diffrence only on the map, they are intagrated togather, one guy instead of quaid bought ghaznavi and went to al-falah building for permission, now bt also wanted construction to start their also so upon a request and justification by the plot owner that all development is complete and there is no diffrence between quaid and ghaznavi bt gave permission and now many houses are under construction.

HHH replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 03:32 AM PST 

@Hafiz sahib
Shed some light on BT Karachi project. Is the land bought from the government or is it private land? Is it good to invest?

Hafiz Sajad replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 03:38 AM PST 

all land bought from govt, all lies in the paper today :), but heaving said that their are no issues, that land was barron every one sold it at their own free will, no coersion involved. all paid for and dont worry, only zardari under the guliteen MR safe from army aslong as he cooparates with General Raheel.

HHH replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 03:43 AM PST 

@Hafiz Sahib
You really are a BT Guru. Tell us about DHA Valley ISB. MR was supposed to acquire land and give it to DHA. He didn't. Now what? He was called in GHQ lately for a meeting on the issue. Then, he gave a statement on TV saying issue is only dadocha dam. Is it really just the dam because as far as I know most of the land is also not acquired and not people demanding 6 lacs per kanal for it.

Shah replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 04:00 AM PST 

@Hafiz Sahib
As you have so much knowledge about bahria town I want to ask an out of topic question for which I am not getting answer any where.

The biggest problem that residents face is at canal exit/entry point and we heard that bahria are planning to build a flyover at shahkam chowk. Do you have any news about that or any other solution in their mind to solve this entry problem? Thankyou

Hafiz Sajad replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 04:26 AM PST 

@HHH MR has given cheques to general raheel shareef of close to 30 billion rupees and dated december 2015, they will be cashed if he dosent by land and deliver dha vally by december.
@Shah sahib bt has gotten approval of the flyover at shahkaam chowk, they have also paid the nessary bribes to punjab govt for cionstruction. the problem is that factory on the chowk where the signal is, they are a strong group and are affiliated with n league, they have a stay in place also the owner of imperial college building has gotten a stay, they tried to cover the canal road with a wall sometime back but bahria stoped them by sending security guards, so its stays after stays. punjab govt is not in favor of bt in lahore so they arnt doing much to help. MR is busy in karachi so even hes not paying much attention to the problem yet.

Moin Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 05:39 AM PST 

@Hafiz Sajad [BT Guru]. Can you please advise if BTL allow for 2 car porch for a corner 10M plot?

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 12:01 PM PST 

@ Rasheed
Thanks for providing the link of ads. I am aware of these ads appeared on website and distributed as a separate paper placed in the newspaper. My point is that Bahria Town did not make any advertisement and announcement about its Sector E and F in national newspaper (at least in the Punjab).
I would be obliged if you could provide the link from any national newspaper. If we can find such an announcement / ads, it will help us in understanding the level of Bahria Town's relations with LDA (and Lahore Sarkar).
Thanks.

Arshad replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 01:29 PM PST 

Dear Kaisrani , after Sept 2013, only LDA approved societies/ areas can give ads in newspapers, ads are not allowed now according to LDA by laws till u get approval , even u can't start road construction ant can't give map

MA Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 02:39 PM PST 

@ Hafiz Sajjad Sb! Thanks a lot again for all the valuable information above.
Lets sum up the matter by considering worst case scenarios. Whats the bottom line of Bahria Town in following cases:
1- MR fails to buy the land and deliver the DHA Valley Project and Army encashes his cheques.
2- BT fails to deliver Sector-F, Golf View, Greens etc. in next 1-2 years.
3- MR is Held by authorities for Land issue in Karachi.
4- MR is bankcrupted and fails to deliver non finished projects and files.
5- Sector D,E, F are declared illegal by authorites, then what will be standing of owners.
6- As all Bahria Land in Malik Riaz name, then what will happen when he dies (Mal Allah give him long life and seha) but as you know one man is different from society owned land.

( Either affectees will be paid back be NAB or ARMY )
So the point is to know te results in worst case scenario.
:) :) :) :) :)
Regards

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 03:54 PM PST 

@ Arshad
Thanks a lot for making the matter clear. Yes, this is the reason that there is no chance of appearing any ad. regarding unapproved sectors of Bahria Town, Lahore.

@ MA Khan,
Brother! why should we discuss these kinds of extremes. Nothing like this is going to happen so only practical issues should be taken into consideration and discussion.
Lets hope for the best.

Moin Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 04:43 PM PST 

Question: Is DHA is also approved by LDA?

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 04:51 PM PST 

Question: What is the ratio of change in map in DHA? What are the chances of revision of Prism DHA Lahore Phase 9 map?

MA Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 05:10 PM PST 

@ Hussain Kaisrani,

I agree with you that nothing will happen Inshallah & All will be good hopefully.

Just as a lighter side i raised this issue as lot of people were cursing for their investments in Bahria which are not handed over or balotted yet. In fact the reality is that Sector F is only 2 years old and 4 blocks are already developed and greens also not very old project, whereas Comparing with any other society and specially in DHA next generation gets grown up till the possession.

E.A. replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 05:23 PM PST 

Dear MA Khan Sb.
The problem is not the DELAYS, actually it is UNCERTAINTY, while investing with DHA one thing sure that they issue files against the land only while BT issue files in the AIR and they issue more than the available land.

so once you know that land is available then by end of the day the specific project will be developed, but once you know that Land is not available then somehow you get upset, like Greens, Golf and Sector F (additional land for non-balloted files).

anyhow I am not against BT, I still hope that the things will get on track soon and everybody will get exit on profit from Bahria Town.
lets wait and look forward to hear something favorable from Bahria about the unfinished projects.

Thanks

MA Khan replied on Monday, June 22, 2015 05:48 PM PST 

Dear E.A Sb,

I agree with you. Being human it is natural to worry about hard earned money being invested in these projects.

Actually in these type of uncertain situations I have seen that always investor makes money by purchasing files/plots from common people who have one or 2 plots at minus and makes money on the same later on when storm of uncertainty is over.

As I am witness that lot of people dumbed their plots and files in 2012 when MR & Arslan Iftikhar issue was there and investors purchased all these items at very cheap prices and later on made huge profits on those things and those who sold at that time kept seeing the rising prices in Bahria and got astonished.

I hope all will be good Inshallah.

Regards

Muhammad Asif replied on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 08:51 AM PST 

@Hussain Kaisrani Sb, Appreciate if you can share some info regarding Awami villas. What is the difference between standard and premium awami villas.
How long you see for these villas to get developed and get possession.
Thanks.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Tuesday, June 23, 2015 01:50 PM PST 

@ dubai

I have got it confirmed that Bahria Town has not imposed any development charges on its Awami Villas project yet. Your dealer has provided you wrong information in this regard.

Having said that I am of the view that Bahria Town will impose some kind of charges upto Rs.200,000/=. It seems that the amount will be payable after possession and in installments.

@ Rasheed

I am sorry that these files are not being downloaded / opened on my computer. You may email it to me on
Thanks.

@ Muhammad Asif

The project is discussed in detail here on this page as well as on my blog. Please search Awami Villas here or use the following link for further information.
http://kaisrani.blogspot.com/search?q=Awami+Villas

Things are now changed a lot. In present situation, Awami Villas Lahore are being offered as an apartment / flat project in Bahria Orchard Lahore.
The premier villas are supposed to be offered on ground floor and standard on other floors.
These villas are being developed in Bahria Orchard. The speed of construction work (check from the link provided below) shows that possession could be offered within 2015.
These are my views and I don't have any inside information.

http://kaisrani.blogspot.com/2015/06/bahria-orchard-and-awami-villas-lahore.html
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