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Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:16 AM PST 
Govt can pay 50% and forfeit your property??

If I buy a plot for 1 crore and write the same price on the registry papers honestly.
The govt. can buy from me that property for 50 lacs after 3 years???

Am I confused or is it the govt.???

Mansoor replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 02:10 AM PST 

To curb the practice of underwriting the value of property, the government will have the right to buy any property at double the declared value of the property, within six months of its registration.This will begin from the fiscal year 2019 and over the next two years, the rate will be reduced. In 2020, the government will have to pay 75% above the value, and in 2021, it will be 50% above the value to curb the practice of underwriting the value of property even further.

Hm replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 10:52 AM PST 

Based on your example, simply put they can buy it at 2 crores in the next 6 months only. Thus giving you 100% profit theoretically.
One must appreciate the tax reforms as really pushing people to enter the tax net and declare more. First time such a massive relief for salaried class and in fact all personal income tax. Steps in the right direction, not perfect but even perfect is not good enough for some.

Naveed786 replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 01:33 PM PST 

Be relaxed. Just rumours. Nothing else.

Jameel replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 03:53 PM PST 

Dear Mansoor,
First portion is understandable but how 75% and 50% in 2nd and third year as value of property increases in coming years does not devalue. Do you mean that this law will be implemented in graduation in 2019 govt wants at least 50% of correct value should be declared and in 2020 it wants at least 60% and so on.

Ashfaq® replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 04:12 PM PST 

Property Tax reforms

Property tax reforms, which was the fourth point stated by the Prime Minister can be broken down into the following points:

One per cent ‘presumptive tax’ will be paid on any purchase of property. However, the tax will be adjusted against the annual taxes of the tax-payers.
On the local and provincial level, a maximum of 1% tax has been recommended on registration of property.
At the federal level, meanwhile, Adjustable Advance Income Tax which is levied on property sale and purchase will be reduced to 1%.
The FBR rates will stand abolished from 1st July 2018, while provinces have also been requested to abolish DC rates.
Non-filers of tax returns will not be able to purchase any property of value greater than PKR 4 million.
To curb the practice of underwriting the value of property, the government will have the right to buy any property at double the declared value of the property, within six months of its registration.This will begin from the fiscal year 2019 and over the next two years, the rate will be reduced. In 2020, the government will have to pay 75% above the value, and in 2021, it will be 50% above the value to curb the practice of underwriting the value of property even further.

Mansoor replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 07:54 PM PST 

Jameel sahib

This is exactly what I interpreted.

Jameel replied on Sunday, April 8, 2018 04:47 AM PST 

This indeed is bad news as at this point most of buyers are non filers. Even if you become filer the source of funds for bigger plots will be an issue. You can eliminate 70% investors. Now only 30% buyers will stay in market which will create huge imbalance between buyers and sellers.

asad khan replied on Monday, April 9, 2018 04:29 PM PST 

Dear atta, simple answer is No
Regards
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Friday, April 6, 2018 03:21 PM PST 

New policy by the Government where a non filer will not be able to buy any property worth more than 40 laks and also if you declare less value during buying the government can take that land from you by giving twice the declared price for 2018 and 75% above in 2019 and 50% in 2020.
What impact will this have on the property market ?

Shoaib Khan replied on Friday, April 6, 2018 07:05 PM PST 

I think this should significantly reduce number of transactions since there is almost no/little chance for black money poring in the market. More documentation means more regularized sector which in turn reduce number of transactions. I'm expecting flattish RE market for foreseeable future. Locations which lack genuine investors/ end users must be penalized badly by this move.

Adnan replied on Friday, April 6, 2018 08:33 PM PST 

What about overseas Pakistanis ? They are not living and paying taxes in Pakistan

Shahid1 replied on Friday, April 6, 2018 09:38 PM PST 

This can prompt a property takeover (asset forfeiture) by government. For example, you buy something and declare its buy price honestly and price appreciates 100% in three years. So government can just pay 50% and take over property thus making a hefty profit.

Simple replied on Friday, April 6, 2018 09:54 PM PST 

This policy may have disastrous effect on property market as most of the buyers are non filers and if they are not allowed to buy then I am afraid we should be ready to see significant drop in property prices in near future.

Azmat replied on Friday, April 6, 2018 10:43 PM PST 

What about property bought in past. Do this scheme effect those

chouhdry replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:15 AM PST 

Please don't spread fake news in market!!

Mansoor replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 01:57 AM PST 

@Shahid 1
Proposal says Govt can buy the property within 6 months of registration. So after three years there will be no question of buying at any rate. But not allowing Non-filers to buy anything above 4 million will definitely hurt the market.

Fellow Member replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 04:54 AM PST 

I think the prices would rise sharply for some time as the money which would have been whitened through amnesty would be parked in the real estate sector; and after that they may change proposal altogether to give safe exit to such whitened money holder.

H A Mian replied on Saturday, April 7, 2018 10:28 AM PST 

when will this policy take affect ???
I am on overseas Pakistani, intending to buy a lot in DHA prism 9..... I m not a filer....
why Government is doing this ?/ .......
this will seriously hurt foreign remittance to Pakistan .....

KSA Banker® replied on Sunday, April 8, 2018 02:49 PM PST 

Dear "H A Mian", I am an overseas Pakistani like you, I have always worked abroad since my graduation, I have no income in Pakistan (only remittances from abroad), and so I don't pay any income tax. Yet, I am a tax filer and I file my income tax returns every year voluntarily but without paying any income tax. As a matter of fact, filing my income tax returns every year, I declare to the Govt. that they have taken advance income tax of a certain amount from me at the time of me purchasing properties in Pakistan and hence I will claim the refund of that advance tax collected from me at the time of transactions.

Hence, the point I am trying to make is that all overseas Pakistanis, especially those with significant savings and wishing to invest in Pakistan, can become filers without paying any income tax in Pakistan if they don't generate any taxable income in Pakistan (e.g. from rental of property). It only costs around PKR 10,000 per annum to engage a good lawyer to file your tax returns every year and keep your documents in order.

It will also be very helpful if one day the Govt. wants to do any audit of your wealth and assets. I went through it when I was a non-filer where they saw one of my properties and sent me a letter to explain my sources of income, wealth statement etc. Alhamdulillah I was able to do that as I had kept a tidy record of all my remittances to Pakistan and of my investments. Since then, I have been filing my tax returns every year and have not incurred any issues since then.

I hope the above will be helpful of other overseas Pakistanis as it is based on personal experience of one of you.
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Thursday, September 21, 2017 05:58 PM PST 
f3 Crown

Gentlemen,
I have a friend who has a 5 Marla file in Pak Arab Society F3 Crown. He is in need of cash but as the market is a bit slow and due to no development in that block he could not sell his file. Pak Arab management has offered him to get his file adjusted against installment of any other file or plot. File price is 1.3 million.
If any one of you or any one you know is interested in this option than kindly contact me

Mansoor replied on Thursday, September 21, 2017 06:42 PM PST 

Pak Arab sector F is fraud. If your friend can bear loss and get out of it it's better otherwise he will be stuck there for long.
Popple like me are waiting any developments there since 2013 but nothing there.

M asghar replied on Sunday, October 8, 2017 09:25 AM PST 

Ahmad sb tell me the price of ur friend plot final demand market is very slow now a adays
call me
thanks

Ahmed replied on Tuesday, October 10, 2017 05:41 PM PST 

Asghar sb, he has paid 1.3 million as down payment. You can give your offer. Let me know your number, I'll ask him to give you a call.
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Monday, August 28, 2017 11:40 PM PST 
Upward Surge?

The overall trend of prices of plots/files is either stagnant or somewhat downward; is there any specific place where prices are surged upwards i..e. Gawadar, schemes near new international airport Islamabad or any others: please furnish your analysis / comments.

Mubeen Asghar replied on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 01:11 PM PST 

Asslam a alaikum,

Sir, the downward trend is due to the political uncertainty, it would not remain same, it will start improving most probably after Muharram, and DHA Peshawar files had seen an upward trend i.e moved from 49 to 59 Lacs with in last 1.5 months, the reason for this is the balloting in DHA Peshawar.

Thanks
Mubeen Asghar
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Lahore Real Estate

Riaz 44 replied on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 02:35 PM PST 

The market is downwards due to following factors
1.Over supply of plots and files
2.Overpricing
3.taxes

Real estate sector of Pakistan has changes after the 2016 taxes. No short term gains anymore. The property will now gain with the passage of time. This is new dynamics and there will not no sudden increases.Political issue has very little impact on this. Prism plots and Phase 10 files will see bigger corrections.

Mirza replied on Tuesday, August 29, 2017 09:04 PM PST 

I have been hearing from LRE at different portals that prices will increase after one month. after eid and now after Muharram.. funny...

Agree with Riaz.. Actual Reasons;

1 - Taxes
2 - over supply
3 - over priced..

MANSOOR replied on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 01:22 AM PST 

I was surprised to know recently that buying 1K plot in Prism will cost 515000 in taxes. Add 1 percent commission to that for total cost.

ACH replied on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 03:50 AM PST 

Property prices will not increase due to following reasons:
1- Because Pakistan is not a heaven anymore for the people with black money, as they are shift their money in different countries and are not investing in property anymore.
2. Bad shape of Middle East , and other countries economy

3. Poor purchasing power of Genuine tax payers to buy 2 to 3 corers property

Faheem replied on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:44 PM PST 

I am agree with Riaz, Nabeel, Mirza, Mansoor and ACH. Collectively you have summed up the problems.
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Tuesday, August 22, 2017 06:26 PM PST 

Dear Experts
How an overseas Pakistani can become a filer without having any income in Pakistan. Will appreciate if someone with first hand experience can shed some light. Thanks

Hm replied on Tuesday, August 22, 2017 11:49 PM PST 

Sir all info should be able at fbr website and they have help section too. It is fbr . Gov . Pk

ShahzadQamar® replied on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 02:47 AM PST 

Mansoor being a filer does not necessarliy mean that you must have income as well. You can always file a tax statement with zero income and zero tax and still remain filer. But make sure that you have zero income in Pak. If you have some sort of income in Pak and dont report then be ready for FBR action.

Habib replied on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 01:35 PM PST 

From 2015 it is must for all Overseas to File returns though they don't have income, No Tax will be levied but all assets have to be declared, I Guess Not even 0.1% People have done that.

Ali replied on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 02:04 PM PST 

Tax return also require disclosure of foreign assets, as per last year Asset/Liabilities disclosure format. Also there is a cell for disclosure of foreign-source income to disclose incase there is an increase in Foreign assets from year to year.

MANSOOR replied on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 05:24 PM PST 

Thanks brothers for valuable input.

dubai replied on Thursday, August 24, 2017 04:53 PM PST 

@ Ali

as i understand, disclosure of foreign assets does not apply to overseas Pakistan since they donot earn from Pakistan.
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Wednesday, August 9, 2017 03:43 PM PST 

Dear LRE and Experts,
Is it a good idea to switch investment from Phase 6 to Prism?
How much doe it cost to sell a 1 K plot in Phase 6 including all taxes etc and how much does it cost to buy a 1K plot an Prism inclusive taxes commission etc. Thanks

Mubeen Asghar replied on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 05:54 PM PST 

Asslam a alaikum,

Yes, you can now move from Phase 6 to Prism 9, as Prism will gain more in coming years. For Details Contact Brother Kashif Rabbani +.

Thanks
Mubeen Asghar
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Lahore Real Estate

LRE Support Staff replied on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 06:18 PM PST 

Dear Sir,
If you're looking to keep it for next 3 years then its good time to switch.
You will have to pay gain tax if selling before 3 years and have to clear outstanding dues.

Old transfer expenses of 1K Prism was 494,000 for non-filers and new transfer expenses are not approved yet, hopefully same will be retained or there will be minor increment.

Please feel free to ask any further details.

Thanks & Best Regards,
Saad Mahmood
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Lahore Real Estate

kk replied on Wednesday, August 9, 2017 10:02 PM PST 

OH My God! This Chor Goverement takes away your 5 Lac to buy flats

Hm replied on Thursday, August 10, 2017 09:42 AM PST 

Kk. These fees go to both DHA and Govt. If plot is 1 or 1.2 crore, then transfer costs are 4-5%. This is not exorbitant by any international standards. As a people we complain our rulers are corrupt as they do not pay enough taxes but do not want to pay ourselves either. How can we ever be happy?

MANSOOR replied on Thursday, August 10, 2017 03:16 PM PST 

Thanks for your replies.

Majid replied on Thursday, August 10, 2017 06:13 PM PST 

Hm, people would definitely love to pay taxes if those taxes are spent on their well being, education, health, infrastructure and is not wasted on some bull-shiiit corrupt disqualified chor's so called rally, failed revival attempt, protocols, security. These blood sucking leeches are sucking nation's blood. Why should anyone pay taxes? To protect & pamper these chors?
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Thursday, August 18, 2016 01:11 AM PST 
Cisco

Cisco to sack 14000 employees. This is the situation of global market.

kisco replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 01:39 AM PST 

chal koi na, haoo,,,, maaf kar deo su

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:15 AM PST 

@ kisco, problem is that any message, word, text or image you transfer over Internet, must go through a Cisco box. کیسے معاف کر دیں۔ Closly watch global impact on Pakistan. No idea how many will be from Pakistan & all Pakistanies working & living abroad are potential buyers of property in Pakistan.

AhmetKildir® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:42 AM PST 

This isn't big news. Every day someone is hiring and someone is firing. CISCO firing and Healthcare and civil engineering hiring at all time high.

Arif M® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 04:22 AM PST 

Overall world is moving towards recession phase. Those work in corporate sector can easily sense it. All these corporations design their HR policies (hirings, increments, lay-offs) according to economic conditions. It is not about pakistan but corporations all around world are sensing recession. It might not affect Pakistan as bad but it is certainly good to know about global economical conditions.

HassanHC® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 05:30 AM PST 

Sir jee these are newspaper clippings. Apple Google Tesla Facebook are hiring and some are firing. This will go round the year.

On the side Property in US is booming so ppl have money.

SaeedUSA® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 09:26 AM PST 

Cisco is laying off because they got stuck in server
Business which is slowing down because of clouding technology.
All their people are moving to vmware company. They are hiring
Them right and left.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 09:32 AM PST 

Earlier Microsoft layoff 33k, HP 18k & Intel 12K, no one took it serious. This is not due to recession, a major technogy shift is going on. Somehow it is recession due jobs cut. These nos aren't small as this is transfering from principals to partners (including partners & employees belong to Pakistan or in Pakistan). As oil sector in pressure, all related to hardware will be disturbed now as companies are moving towards software centric solutions. There are business & carriers oppertunity too. Need to catch instead of become one of looser.

SaeedUSA® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 09:43 AM PST 

Mr Hassan hit the nail. Next 50 years are all about software
And our politicians/govt is not focusing on that side.india
Is the number one benefit of that.

HHH replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:42 PM PST 

Cloud technology doesn't need servers?

Arif M® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:10 PM PST 

@HHH It does. but the point is the quantities required in future will be far less as compared to past. As the world moves to cloud technology the end users of hardware will be fewer as compared to past. Just look how Amazon and Google cloud services have changed the whole dynamics. Companies see lot more profit in software/cloud based services as compared to hardware. Just my 2 cents.

Nabeel® replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 02:32 PM PST 

While global markets are down, these things are cyclical in nature for most countries.

The Middle East and the oil crisis however is a different matter. A new paradigm shift has happened due to the oil and the days of overflowing coffers are gone. First-movers (& agile) places like Dubai have quickly moved to balance their books by introducing new charges and fees on a regular basis. UAE in general will be able to have a self-funded economy in a few years.

Countries like Saudi, who were caught napping, & are too bureaucratic are in deep sh#t

Mansoor replied on Thursday, August 18, 2016 06:47 PM PST 

@HHH !! Mainly, cloud technology does not require onsite servers. As for example, on-premisis exchange to move in Office 365 cloud. File server is converted with online file server. Cisco firewall is exchanged with cisco meraki cloud managed security. To cap it all, we are moving towards cloud computing and virtualization. A single person may work alone now which was earlier require a full dedicated team.

alpha replied on Tuesday, August 23, 2016 03:42 AM PST 

bigger threat to lahore real estate is Uber self driving cars and self drive trucks - cab / truck driver bradari in US will be out of job

cisco is a dinosaur of the past
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Friday, May 6, 2016 05:06 PM PST 
Kindly evaluate LDA plots

Dear ZS,
Kindly evaluate plot# J-1153 and J-1122 in LDA avenue 1

Col.Saadat replied on Friday, May 6, 2016 09:58 PM PST 

dear experts
please evaluate the price of my plot
which is in between kanal block D
back to 150 feet road
waiting for the reply

Mansoor replied on Saturday, May 7, 2016 12:54 PM PST 

Dear Saadat,

only are clear and is developed only. If it is clear then price range is 75 - 80 Lac.

hassan replied on Saturday, May 7, 2016 02:19 PM PST 

litigation plots kab tak clear ho jae gay,,,,,ye be asses kar dain

abdul ghafoor replied on Saturday, May 7, 2016 02:36 PM PST 

dear zs,
litigation wale kidr ja ka sar mare

Khan replied on Saturday, May 7, 2016 03:51 PM PST 

Sir what about litigation
Any hope

ZS replied on Saturday, May 7, 2016 04:54 PM PST 

1122-J @63
1153-J @65
behtar to ye he litigation walay apna plot bech den market upar he i sold 10 marla plot in L block plot was clear but uske around poora litigation area tha is liye 33 ka sale hua

Col.Saadat replied on Saturday, May 7, 2016 07:22 PM PST 

Thank you mansoor bhai
May ALLAH bless you

Tahir Lutfi replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:35 AM PST 

@AS I have also a clear plot in L block
Near 717
can u gues it's price

Tahir Lutfi replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:35 AM PST 

@AS I have also a clear plot in L block
Near 717
can u gues it's price

Tahir Lutfi replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:35 AM PST 

@AS I have also a clear plot in L block
Near 717
can u gues it's price

Tahir Lutfi replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:35 AM PST 

@AS I have also a clear plot in L block
Near 717
can u gues it's price

Tahir Lutfi replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 12:35 AM PST 

@AS I have also a clear plot in L block
Near 717
can u gues it's price

faisalP replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 03:14 AM PST 

Thank you ZS Sir
May Allah Bless you

ZS replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 05:34 AM PST 

717-L should be around 24-25 close to village not a Good location sold it nd move to other good location for good returns

hassan replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 01:21 PM PST 

plz evaluate 1045-c

abdul replied on Sunday, May 8, 2016 01:23 PM PST 

plz evaluate 1045-c
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