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Thursday, May 23, 2019 03:35 AM PST 
Prism possession

LRE gurus !!
When is possession of upper blocks APCDQ phase 9 expected? ?
Please share latest development
Regards

LRE Online Support Staff replied on Thursday, May 23, 2019 03:35 PM PST 

Dear Sir,
It will take minimum 3 years
For More Info Contact
M.Muneeb
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Lahore Real Estate

HUSSAIN@1956® replied on Thursday, May 23, 2019 03:59 PM PST 

Could you please evaluate current B-726 Phase 9 prism.

saleeem replied on Thursday, May 23, 2019 06:49 PM PST 

seriously that is really depressing after 3 years it will still take 3 years
yaar wo surfer bhai kidr hain jo kehte the k 3 years mein possession b mil jae ga aur plots 300 lacs ke hn ge.......

LRE Online Support Staff replied on Friday, May 24, 2019 08:13 PM PST 

Dear Sir,
B-726 Phase 9 prism is around 115 to 118 Lacs
For More Info Contact
Salman Maqsood
+923224009967
Lahore Real Estate

Surfer® replied on Saturday, May 25, 2019 01:57 AM PST 

Dear Saleeem sb. & Others
Hope you are fine by the grace of ALLAH.
This was my reply to one of the previous posts as follows for you all few weeks back & still the same.
"Don't worry still here all friends. Specially pareshan bhai pareshan hona choor dein.
PRISM 9 is still the best but no body can predict future but knowingly current & previous economic & political circumstances everybody knows that PRISM 9 is still holding its position not even losses a single penny from its plot pricing. (Still best time to enter PRISM due to above explained factors). Gaining would definitely refers to above said factors. So hold your horses & be prepared for next comming flight. My priority is always that I always suggest what i always think best for my self.
"In shaa ALLAH"
And my words are Always the same.
"Try your level best & think hard to invest your hard earnings"
Nothing wrong to this PRISM 9 as a project it's the best project ever introduced by in the history of DHA LAHORE.
"In shaa ALLAH" PRISM 9 will perform best in near future."
Doc sb. Regarding possession feels like we are day by day shorten our journey for possession kindly check Google image for upper blocks & have more potential to get possession sooner.
"In shaa ALLAH"

Kh Qasim replied on Monday, May 27, 2019 06:37 PM PST 

@Saleem @USA Doc rest assured after 3 years you will hear this statement "It will take maximum 3 years" but prices will increase. Such a huge development is an easy task.
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Thursday, July 26, 2018 03:53 AM PST 
Wake Up Guys!!!!

Tabdeeli A Gayee Hay!

Guys, get ready!!! I guess a boom in property sector would start soon (not because of PTI win). Most of potential buyers are holding their investments because of election. All would see now significant transactions in property business. I am not saying that "Party Shuroo Hoo gayee hay"; honeymoon period is still far though!

All I am claiming here a significant increase in "Transactions" with little to moderate increase in prices of properties.

All experts are welcome with their valuable feedback?

Thanks

REALISTIC replied on Thursday, July 26, 2018 04:07 AM PST 

Lagta hai bhai PTI supporter hain aur ziyada jazbaati ho gaye hain. Bhai jaan what makes you think a 2.5 crore 10 marla plot in DHA Lahore is going to appreciate further? What makes you think 5 million 5 marla off ground plots will rise?

Come on, be realistic and face it. Real estate market party is over. Down is the only way to go.

OMAR replied on Thursday, July 26, 2018 06:21 AM PST 

@ REALISTIC,

Brother you are very specific about those plots / properties which has no juice left and already touching to their peak. I agree with you that there would certainly be no increase on mentioned properties by you but those are very few. There are many dozen societies which have lot more potential to grow including AWT, Bahria, and many at Raiwind road side.
I am not in to PTI or any political party worker but very optimistic about Pakistan's future. I am sure those buyers who are wating for the election results now would come in to market for investment.

Final Note, as mentioned at my previous post "Honeymoon period is over or at least not in near future"; I am still positive about significant transactions should start now soon. Lets see what other experts and their opinion.

Khan88 replied on Thursday, July 26, 2018 06:42 AM PST 

On the contrary, heavy taxation ahead with a fiscal crisis created by PMLN). Only way is down for property for 1-2 years before it stabilises.

investor replied on Thursday, July 26, 2018 03:47 PM PST 

Dont see any recovery for the following reasons

1. Rupee to fall further, which means that overseas investors would not want to convert their dollars into Pak rupees to invest in property.
2. Prices doubled in 2 years, so very little room to grow further for a couple of years
3. Non filer cannot buy any property above 5 million. This is part of law and can only be changed by parliament with two thirds majority. PTI will not try to change it either.
4. Pressure from FATF to document the money trail in order to avoid black listing, which means only filer can invest in the sector.

Nabeel® replied on Wednesday, September 19, 2018 04:37 PM PST 

Yesterdays removal of restriction for non-filers to purchase property above 50 lakh is a significant factor.

A lot of non-filers buyers of large ticket items who had disappeared or moved to 5 marla plots, will reenter market, and market for larger sized plots will be reinvigorated.
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Tuesday, January 9, 2018 02:56 AM PST 

Property prices are continuously falling in Lahore Bahria town 10 marla plots are available for 40-50 lacs. Prices were nearly double of this value about 2 years before.
Overseas Pakistanis were investing in property and specially in DHA because it was safe and sound investment giving them good returns.
It is time now to switch to other modes of investment rather than property.

PAK Overseas in KSA replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 02:59 AM PST 

Yes, totally agreed

Amir replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 03:15 AM PST 

Phase 9 kanal for 70 lac😒.please share options

Realistic replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 04:06 AM PST 

Dear Irfan Sb

Can u quote any plot bahria town 10marla in 40--50 lack.
I need this.
Thanks for ur advise.

Friend replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 09:44 AM PST 

Orchard 4 at Bahria Town Lahore is around 40 K to 50 K now for 10 Marlas and also on installments. Those are now on ground possession plots.

Friend Of Jaranwala replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 09:46 AM PST 

Also we should not forget State Life 2 where 1 Kanal is still under 30K. I understand that it is file but one should not forgot that State Life 2 is one of the most prime location (DHA all around) and also right at the ring road.

2018 is the year of 2018, whatever mess is going on over there for a decade now, 2018 would be full stop to those and it would sky rocket over the night!

!!!! MARK MY WORDS !!!!

dxb replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 12:16 PM PST 

it is excellent opportunity for people living in Pakistan to purchase since prices are lower ..... many new entrants will purchase homes/ plots/ commercial .... these will be genuine buyers thus moving the communities forward

Habib replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 12:36 PM PST 

short term investors should look for other options . And Long term investors wait more as prices still did not hit the lowest.

Junaid Khan replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 01:48 PM PST 

Property prices are falling and will keep on falling at the same rate in coming year or so. In Pakistan real estate prices jumps with pouring in of black money and investments by speculative foreign groups. Now with USA pulling back its support to Pakistan and US aid which used to remain within few circles and international scenario changing property prices will remain in check for quite long period until something extra ordinary happens. Moreover there are abundance of plots and real estate options. A decade back there used to be only few societies other than DHA and Bahria having good development standards but now there are plenty of options for common persons. So guys its a changing time for Pakistan and new avenues for investments to be explored and worked out. Not good for real estate investors but overall a good omen for the nation as real estate is a dead investment without generating means of living for common man.

Saleem Khan replied on Tuesday, January 9, 2018 06:49 PM PST 

40-50 K for 10 marla at Orchard sounds like a good buy. How are the prices for 10 marla possession plot in proper Bahria these days?

Faheem Ansari replied on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:03 AM PST 

Where in bahria town 10 marla between 40 to 50??
And bahria orchard phase 1 any good located in 40s.
Who cares bahria orchard phase 4......

Irfan UAE® replied on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:27 AM PST 

PLz refer to LRE website plots for sale. Bahria Sector E, plot No 427 Talha Block for sale at 52. Also sector E Iqbal block 300 for sale at 41 lacs
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Thursday, August 10, 2017 04:28 PM PST 
DHA Multan 1 Kanal Installment Plan is a great investment

Earlier we discussed that to calculate true value of investment, always look at benchmarks in same locality.


Buch Villas , opposite DHA Multan has launched their 1 Kanal plot on installments of 2 years at 1.45 crore. Note that Buch Villas earlier sectors already are one of the best in Multan

Very interesting comparison with DHA Multan:

Buch Villa 1 Kanal = 1.45 crore
DHA Multan 1 Kanal = 68 lakhs+ 20 lakh dvlp+ 5-6 lakh OWN
= 93 lakh

So based on this is DHA Multan Kanal Installment looks like a very good option 93 lakh versus 145 lakh.

Additionally DHA Multan benefit is installment plan over 5 years easy installments. Buch Villas only 2 years!

http://www.buchvillas.com/Payment.html

Ali Sultan replied on Friday, August 11, 2017 03:47 AM PST 

DHA installments based on 3 years not 5.
Further Buch 1 Kanal is developed area whereas DHA will be developed in next 5 years.

Realistic replied on Friday, August 11, 2017 05:54 AM PST 

The market is uncertain and erratic at this moment; what should be fair value of cash file, one kanal in DHA Multan; Guess please. Thanks

Afridi replied on Friday, August 11, 2017 04:11 PM PST 

Look at the example of Dha Bahawalpur, which is still not as big a phase as dha multan:
Dha Bahawalpur 1 kanal instalment at 38, but cash file is still 26 after two years of instalments.
If Dha multan follows the same trend , it is very less likely that even after two years the cash file can cross 55!
Dha multan is a big big phase and it will not be developed in a decade to match the level of buch villas.

Prices in Dha multan are bound to remain stagnant for the next 2 years at least, if not fall.

ACH replied on Saturday, August 12, 2017 01:10 AM PST 

Every sensible person must realize that the property in Pakistan specially in Lahore and Karachi is already overpriced because of black money's (money earned through kickbacks, corruption etc.) investment in property sector, now it is becoming difficult to hide this money in property sector, so this black money mafia or corrupts moving their money out of Pakistan and avoiding investment in property because of new tax rules imposed by govt. so property market will stay stagnant in next couples years

DHA Multan Investor replied on Saturday, August 12, 2017 05:21 PM PST 

Seems all agents of buch villas are active here to defame DHA Multan. Guys, I have invested my hard earned money in DHA Multan which is a brand name and owned by an institution instead of an individual. At least since last 1 and half year, DHA Multan prices were always either going up or were stable in economic turmoil also. Soon you will see these private societies in surrounding of DHA Multan will do an extensive propaganda and will put maximum efforts to defame this project. Such societies were able to make their place in this market because there were no such quality housing schemes in Multan since independence of Pakistan.

DHA Multan may take time to develop but other societies will be left far behind when it will be developed. I bought at 28 in Nov 2015 and my investment is almost double today. I, despite of having investments in Lahore and Karachi have preferred to have few in Multan also from where I belong. People who belong to Multan will always have a dream to build at least one house in Multan even if they have USA citizenship. This is mentality of my Multani people.

Nabeel® replied on Sunday, August 13, 2017 07:06 PM PST 

My replies:

Ali sultan: DHA is a 5 year plan with development charges. Secondly the prices I have given are for Buch Villa Phase 2 which is under development, not phase 1 which is already developed and has even higher prices

Afridi: Comparing DHA Multan with DHA Bhawalpur is like comparing Chalk & Cheese. Both have very different fundamentals. Visit and have a look. Can't say more than that. :-)

DHA Multan Investor: You have beautifully hit the nail on the head. "People who belong from Multan will always dream to build one house in Multan even if they have USA citizenship." I have a similar friend who has a house in Canada but still wants to buy 1 Kanal Installment in DHA Multan for his extended family.

ShahzadQamar® replied on Monday, August 14, 2017 02:40 AM PST 

I have lots of posts in past on DHA multan past and future those can be searched writing shahzadqamar in search tab. Regarding investment DHA multan installment option is pretty bad in terms of returns instead cash file is much better if somebody can hold the investment. Regarding those comparing BWP with multan here are totally doing wrong comparison as BWP is totally different thing and so was DHA peshawer. Mul is entirely different thing and strong investment but nobody should think that 50 of today will become 150 in 3 years without adding up development charges. There is nothing rosey left in Mul but still there will be good gains.
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Wednesday, June 7, 2017 03:30 PM PST 
Alhumdolillah..Sucessful in 10 marla Multan

Happy to announce to friends been successful in 10 marla Multan.

For those who did not win, please be aware that even after putting 20+ applications chance of winning is still less due to high number of applications.

Fasail replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 04:38 PM PST 

Hi Nabeel,
Congrats,
Are you willing to sell? Whats the OWN/profit any idea for ten marla??

Realistic replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 05:39 PM PST 

Can you please share screen shot for our happiness, we are overseas Pakistanees and large net work but didn't find any body Conga!!!

Adnan Tahir replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 06:20 PM PST 

Agree to Realistic. Same issue noted in else where as well (not specific to General Category).

Nabeel® replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 06:21 PM PST 

Ok bhai for your happiness...but in reply option cannot as no option. Will try to post in new post.

Btw have seen a few members winning in some watsapp groups.

SM replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 08:33 PM PST 

I won a 10 Marla too. I applied 8 application in 4 different categories. but i won 10 Marla only.

But yesterday when i checked online i got the Message of BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME but today when i checked again i received a congratulation message.

Winner replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 10:27 PM PST 

I applied only 1 application for 10M in general category on very last day and I won.

replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 11:00 PM PST 

I have won 10 Marla aswell Great !!!

replied on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 11:05 PM PST 

I am interested in selling mine please make me an offer best offer will be taken into consideration !!!!

Luckiest Man Alive replied on Thursday, June 8, 2017 01:34 AM PST 

I applied 7 applications in each of the 7 categories .. 4 and 8 marla commerical, 2 kanal, 1 kanal, 10 marla, 8 marla and 5 marla. In an amazing streak of luck, 6 of my applications have been successful in ballot .. I feel on the moon !!
Can't wait for 5 Marla ballot to see if my luck is in for 7 in 7.

Observation replied on Thursday, June 8, 2017 04:40 AM PST 

Luckiest man look like you are dealer who is part of blame game

Sultan rahi replied on Thursday, June 8, 2017 06:22 AM PST 

I applied 5 applications each for 5 marla and 8 marla. Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah got 9 out of 10 successfull. I am interested in selling them,is there anyone interested ?

Mustafa Qureshi replied on Thursday, June 8, 2017 07:29 AM PST 

I applied 7 files of 5 marla and got 3 successful, now want to sale, my demand is 6 lac own of each file.

Alpha replied on Thursday, June 8, 2017 08:11 AM PST 

I applied 32 applications of 5 Marla and have got 11 successful

Awaam ki awaz replied on Thursday, June 8, 2017 08:53 AM PST 

All these claimings are fake. Simply ask any one to share a screen shot of their ballot result, no one will. The truth is that all files are given go dealers with extra money. Thanks to DHA for showing their real face

Scorpio replied on Thursday, June 8, 2017 01:44 PM PST 

Sultan Rahi and Mustafa Qureshi ...... Maula Jutt movie yaad agayeee
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Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:25 PM PST 
What I do if I am seller

What I do if I am seller
The Top Line and Bottom line is that sale is standstill not because of Taxes but investors are not feeling that any gain will come in 2,3 years, rather loss is expected.
Almost 2 Months have passed and there is still no clear market direction, The demands prices have failed to decline. Most experts agree that prices will come down a bit may be 15 to 20%. However More Sure thing is that, they will not rise in near future. If I am a seller, and holding a plot in an “Inflated” area. Say worth 100 Lac in peak time. I must be sure that prices will not increase in coming 2,3 years at least, The Likely Hood % wise is that It may Come Down to 85 Lac in March 2017 [70% Likely hood] may fall another 10 lac and fall to 75 Lac in Dec 2017 [ Likely hood 50%] May not fall at all and keep hoovering at same level 25% Chance, Have another Kick in 2 years’ time almost no Chance.
In this scenario I will be benefitted if I sell it in 1,2 Months with 7,8 lac Bargain say in 92 Lac and Pay 5 Lac Gain tax. If My Plot is small and less than 40 Lac even Gain Tax Factor will be lesser. In market there are always buyers due to certain reasons. Make sure not to sell to investor on biana [ Currently market is full of these disputes]

If I am lazy or Long term holder then in 3 Years Price will be lesser than today and end of 4 years price will reach current value and then will start growing fast like cycle. That explains why in hype the gain gain is 200% annualized and why in long term the gain is 17,18 % annualized.

Again the Bottom line is that sale is standstill not because of Taxes which are just about 2 lac per 100 Lac Plot but investors are not feeling that any gain will come in 2,3 years, rather correction is expected.

Observer replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:43 PM PST 

very pessimistic view/approach.
let see what it turns out to be.
lets take an example of a plot in prism worth 100 lac today. according to you it wil remain 100 lac after 3 years. question is where to accomodate LRR compltion, roads copmletion within prism. after 3 years more than 70% development work will be completed still plot will be 100 lac?

Observer replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:45 PM PST 

where do you incorporate value addition factor?

Observer replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:50 PM PST 

On top of it if you put 100 lac in bank account today after 3 years 100 lac will be depriciated to 75-80 lac in real terms.
may be any accounting person could apply a discounting formula to dertime future value to 100 lac of today

Observer replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:51 PM PST 

we need to calculte opportunity cost as well here

Realistic replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:52 PM PST 

Dear observer

What is likelyhood of DHA completing 70% of development work in 3 years considering:
1. Next 2 years are very slow for real estate.
2. Prism is x times bigger than phase 8 which took 10+ years (and counting) to get 70% developed . How can it take so less time to get developed?

Observer replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 09:59 PM PST 

this likelyhood has been discussed in detailed several times before. a lenght debate to go into

Observer replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:21 PM PST 

@Realistic bro just to inform you ph 8 was balloted in 2010 with a cash file rate as high as 38 lac and installment file at 55 lac. its been 6 years noy 10 plus. see rates today 225 to 250 lac and in W even as high as 300 lac despite deep land

Yasir replied on Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:37 PM PST 

Question for Habib sb & Realistic
Lets suppose if anyone has a good location plot in PRISM or phase 7. And at moment its price is 125 which is 135 2months back
He sell this plot according to your interpertation @110 today excluding taxes. And got Cash what will he do next?

Yasir replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:15 AM PST 

My question is still unresponded habib sb?
You feel what you feel for yourself?
But I feel that there is no other option at the moment.
Rather than to through your excellent top Investment on this price. Better to wait for good gains. This is not a good timming to sell. As far as buying is concerned you got good deals at the moment to grab.
TIME IS CLICKING

Noman ahmed replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 01:38 AM PST 

Buy in low price soceities like grand avenus. Very good location posession plot 10 marla 36 lacs. Within a year surely will cross 50 lacs.

FAA.awan® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 02:06 AM PST 

Here Very pessimistic views,Do n't lose heart.Property is the game of brave people not cowards.Very soon the taste of property will force the investors to come back in real estate bussiness.There is no other business options in pakistan as we are facing loadshedding,and many other problems which are not suitable for daily basis bussiness.In short , property is matchless and it is still attractive for better gain than banks etc.Wait a little bit more as the fog is to end sooner or later.

Arif M® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 02:48 AM PST 

Habib sb, I agree to your predictions about short term (6 months). However, what you said about 2017 is really pessimistic view. I do not expect prices to further fall in 2017 (unless GOVT introduces some new taxes next year). A lot will also depend that how FBR revises rates in June 2017. That will set perceptions for lot of things. But there is still lot of time for that.

As for now, I think futuristic properties will be mostly affected in this phase. OR the properties which are overpriced. However, I do not expect much drop in prices of properties in mature areas like DHA 1-6 or Johar Town surroundings that are already populated.

In longer term, there are so many factors on play here. Very hard to predict anything. Situation in Middle East, Europe. FBR revised rates next year. Govt and Ishaq dar policies in next budget. LRR development. So much more.

Habib replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 03:11 AM PST 

The Whole discussion was based not on Tax But Cyclic pattern of real-estate Market not only in Pakistan but world over. Late 80s and early 90 Boom and then 1996 to 2001 Slump, Boom 2001 to 2004, Slump 2005 to 2011, Boom 2012 to 14 and stagnation in 14,15 and again a push in selected areas in in 2015, For Last some years Taxes were getting higher every year what if 2 Lac Gain in Transfer, This much gain properties were covering in 2 weeks during 15-16.
However Property will be final winner but new investors should realize that doubling prices in 6 to 8 Months were unhealthy and had to stop at certain point. Now Investors at peak prices will have to wait, People who missed the train in peak prices will get a chance in 1,2 years in lesser prices.

Yasir replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 03:11 AM PST 

My question is still unresponded habib sb?
You feel what you feel for yourself?
But I feel that there is no other option at the moment.
Rather than to through your excellent top Investment on this price. Better to wait for good gains. This is not a good timming to sell. As far as buying is concerned you got good deals at the moment to grab.
TIME IS CLICKING

ShahzadQamar® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 03:47 AM PST 

Before this post I had opinion that Mr. Habib is a guy with very good analytical approach but this turns out to be wrong after this post. Anyways Habib saab no such thing is going to come in Pak real estate with all your expectected probability spreads. We are not in global slump.

User_6006® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 04:53 AM PST 

CMY audio also advocating almost what habib sb said , and i said almost same in bit confused words but a story i shared that ask local dollar of valencia they will say 2004 to onward good for Valencia , so i showed you a picture of surviving even in slump if come like or correction like 2014

CMY is different person than all other mean property gurus and investor who judge direction but hide it and act selfishly , first his estate really work on agenda of joining buyer and seller on decent term and get commission .

second he has passion to serve in his passion field which is property this is why he said in end of his audio that small budget people is suffering in real manner as prices increased enough no matter correction arrive or slump or we all get wrong here and further price increase the small investor would remain cornered

so i am waiting like many others for cmy to select low budget schemes that can gain shortly or in long term but cheap right now and authentic . even with all knowledge of market direction if you are low in budget you will be confused like me and awaiting for cmy to work for his roti and our's in current scenario as brands are easy to trust and with low budget you can't trust schemes as most wont fulfil any promise so no matter boom come in years those remain in slump all the time if not fraud .

cheers

Khalid Azad® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:19 PM PST 

Dear Habib & user 6006,
You can see my post nearly may June 2016, where I worn about this property Slump ahead. It's routine period. Taxes are not big effect it's due you can see abnormal high hype since last year.that are indicated some thing

Jameel Mughal® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 12:35 PM PST 

I Posted a reply but got error I Hope LRE team will Post user 6006 Can yo Kinley post link for CMY audio

AhmetKildir® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 04:29 PM PST 

The last slump was due to a global recession the likes of which we haven't seen in 65 years. The current situation isn't really a slump, it's more of a slowdown due to governments tax policies that resulted due to IMFs danda. Plus the big fish are transferring their money in Dubai as Dubai has reached the bottom of its correction and prices are expected to rise 10-15% annually from .

Myc replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 05:10 PM PST 

@Jameel bhai
The audio link,
https://clyp.it/3afopppc

Bahtti replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 05:31 PM PST 

Brother Ahmet, current situation is also global. Worst than past. That time there was no unrest in the region. Thousands has lost job in one day notice & big numbers are in row. Hundered of thousands are not getting salaries from last few months. Troops on border cost very high than troops in barracks. And when income also falls from $100 to $40 than we call global crises. A large numbers of Pakistanies are working in Saudi Arabia and impact will transfer to Pakistan. Food was the cheapest thing and the best luxury in Saudi Arabia but hard for those are job less now.

newbie investor replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 08:04 PM PST 

Jameel Mughal sb waiting for your advice as i am your mureed and follow all of your advices religiously. Please do advise me about investment. Advise me about DHA Multan, Lahore or Peshawar, whatever you think will give good return in long term. thanks

Iftikhar Afzal replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 09:50 PM PST 

1. There is a slump.
2. There is a cyclic slump.
3. Slump is not due to new taxes or it is due to new tax policy.

But in my humble opinion, there are very less number of purchasers (or investors) in the property market and the main reason behind this situation is that very less number of investors can give prove of their money being invested / or used is 'WHITE' for purchasing property.

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Sunday, August 28, 2016 11:36 PM PST 

Habib Sb. thank you for your post and all others who commented. The discussion will prove to be useful for prospective buyers and sellers. However, I would also like to point out that there will always be undervalued options available in Pakistan real estate market. People should look into it and follow Mr. CMY advices. Just an example 3 months back, Sector N 5 Marla file in Bahria Enclave Islamabad was available at 6 lac (+19 lac installments). Now same file current price is 14 lac (+19 lac installments). One month ago, I bought 2 files at 9 lac (+19 lac installments) in 1 month gave me a healthy profit of 10 lac in 2 files. No effect of taxes. Similarly there are plenty of similar or even better options still available and will always be available. So, look for that and invest in undervalued plots.
Regarding Prism and DHA other phases; there is so much development happening in Lahore it is hard to digest that 100 lac plot available today in Prism will be 80 after 3 years. Prism, Phase 6, 7 & 8 are excellent places to invest. Prices can remain stagnant, correction for a while but will grow in medium to long term. Mr. CMY said prism once developed will have prices equal to Phase 6 and 8. So, lets be optimistic IA there will be steady growth in 6,7,8 and Prism in next 3-4 years.

SaeedUSA® replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 01:28 AM PST 

i posted this back in june...

SaeedUSA® replied on Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:44 PM PST

Very good analysis by RaviaGIk but forgot one thing that Pakistan own political situation is not good. After Eid will be big show down.If you look at the interest rate chart for Pakistan since last 15 years and you will see crash of 2005 and 2016 are almost same. Back in 2005 same time interest rate was 6 % and started going up and realestate went down.I am thinking that interest rate will be going up very soon or may be next year..my two cents.

alpha replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 04:44 AM PST 

Global GDP growth in the six of the last 8 years is below 20 year average. Commodity prices are down 28% since 2014. Much of the global growth post 2015 is due to China and emerging Asia. China's gross capital formation while explosive in the past, is slowing down in future. Interest rates have fallen to historic lows. Global ( and Pakistani ) debt is growing faster than GDP.

alpha replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 02:29 PM PST 

@Kh. Qamar, 100 Lac plot is NOT available in Prism today. It will be available after 7 years. The value of growth in Lahore infrastructure is already built-into the current price

Furqan replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 03:42 PM PST 

@alpha, my poor little fellow i can understand the burn you are suffering from. may ALLAH grant you sabar

alpha replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 04:05 PM PST 

@Furqan, thanks for the prayers - but I am good - no burn other than your flame. I wish, pray and hope that Prism 9 grows as many people have invested their life savings. Just stating the fact. Kh Qamar has studied finance - he would know that future growth value of an asset in efficient markets in built into current price. DHA Lahore is an efficient market

User_4021® replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 05:30 PM PST 

Price is expected to remain stable for at least one year and will probably see some correction. In southern Lahore price is expected to appreciate but obviously at slow rate. I have observed and met with some Investors and many of them are looking for other options at the moment. So simple is that property market gain will be nominal after paying all taxes.

AhmetKildir® replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 06:43 PM PST 

@Bhatti, no idea what your talking about. This isn't even a recession yet and your comparing it to the global recession of 2008. =)

Saudi seems worse affected. But oil prices have been down for a year now. Pakistani Property market slowed down only after the recent taxes otherwise there were Q/Q gains for the last 3-4 years. Investors saw gains somewhere else and transfered their money. Job market outside Saudi isn't as doom and gloom as you say it is. $40 from $100! Give me a break =)

I think there aren't any buyers in the Pakistani market but there aren't too many distress sellers either. At least I am not able to find a 'location' plot in Prism for 110.

AhmetKildir® replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 06:44 PM PST 

And congrats to Ishaq Dar itni achi khaasi market daba di usnay.

Babar® replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 09:39 PM PST 

I am next to Mr. AhmetKildar, present situation is only due to the tax issue, most of people even expats were not buying every month a new plot but most of them were busy "selling and buying" means switching their existing properties. Of course there are always new buyer in Market but fewer and now they are just waiting to catch a desperate "fish" and many here are just propagating artificial panic. if one sell his prime location property due to the recent situation, than where else to invest?

Babar® replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 09:44 PM PST 

All friends who are crying recession recession, have any one of them visited DHA Lahore office on 30th, June 2016????? Why that recession have promptly started onward from 1st, July 2016???

UG replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 10:07 PM PST 

Please evaluate for me the price of X224 in dha phase 7. Thanks

Usama Javed® replied on Monday, August 29, 2016 10:11 PM PST 

Some sane voices at least from Ahmet and Babar. keep sharing your precious knowledge.
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Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:21 PM PST 

Salam,

I am oversease Pakistani and have DHA Lahore Plot owned in my name which I want to transfer to my real brother so even if I'm abroad, if I need to sell, he can sell without me over there in Pakistan during selling process.

Would this process be complicated without involvment of property dealer on our own or if this is done by property dealer, how much charges (other than transfer fee, cvt, etc.) I can expect or would be charged by dealer / agent to complete this process. I don't want to pay any 1% + 1% fee (of current value) to dealer for sale / purchase between us brothers as dealer is not searching for a buyer or seller for me.

Wassalam.

ali gee replied on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:36 PM PST 

No need for any of tht jua go to dha transfer brig
he will guide u . As its a blood relation so hiba would
be done saving u more on transfer fee more ova no dealer
is required for this process jus make sure ur brother
gives u money as it happens tht ppl dont giv money
afterr selling get a cheque of avg value of plot before handed
for the aafe side

realistic replied on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:20 PM PST 

Anybody knows exact details of the expenses in this case even it would be a HIBA transfer?

Would be expensive replied on Thursday, May 12, 2016 03:27 AM PST 

DHA fee and Transfer charges would be much more even in case of Hiba than your airline ticket at the time of sale. Better you come for a week when you like to sell after deal is done for transfer process.
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