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Friday, April 30, 2021 02:18 AM PST 
Ring road from Adda plot upto multan Road lahore

Please to comment on the following topic.
Construction of Ring Road has started from Adda Plot up to lahore multan Road through Bahria Town Lahore or
It is still not started due to some reasons.
What are the reasons if not started.
With best regards,
Alvi Lahore.

Truth replied on Friday, April 30, 2021 05:08 PM PST 

Jab Malik Riaz Sb OK kar dain ge
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Saturday, October 10, 2020 08:53 PM PST 
Penta Square Apartment

Penta Square Apartment
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Saturday, October 26, 2019 07:23 PM PST 

AoA, just wanted to know the opinion of real estate gurus regarding commercial projects which are offering rentals from the first day of payment. From r example, the company behind Mall XYZ in Islamabad is offering 0.8% rental from the day total payment of an office is made.
- How authentic are these offers?
- What should be confirmed/verified before investing?
- Should they be considered scams? One company already has developed one such mall in Islamabad?

AvoidGreed replied on Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:06 PM PST 

Please avoid anything that seems to be too good to be true. There is no bargain in Pakistan, only deceit and frauds wrapped in sweet deals and honest looking conmen.

truth replied on Sunday, October 27, 2019 02:29 AM PST 

if I take full payment of office today......and keep it in bank ......... I will get much much higher profit per month...... from this profit, I will pay you 0.8 % ....

I may develop the mall very slowly, thus keeping more money in my hand in bank, which I collected from many buyers ....... thus earning extra profits on top of property price ...

wrong practice..... how can rental be paid if building is not yet materialized

Sleepless replied on Sunday, October 27, 2019 04:53 PM PST 

Agreed with your comments @truth. They are investing that money and also utilizing in construction. 0.8% per month comes to 9.8% annually and you have a commercial property at the end of the day. The best banks are offering is 13.25% annually over a period of 1 year. Property is bound to appreciate over time as well.

Asif replied on Sunday, October 27, 2019 07:34 PM PST 

Please be very very careful with the buy back clause in these type of projects, and possession too. will you get the possession on completion of the construction, and can rent it out to whom you want, check these things,

Tahir replied on Monday, October 28, 2019 12:43 PM PST 

This is not the time , when properties will earn and make you rich . The more people wait , more it will fall. It’s an honest suggestion to please do something meaningful with your money so it may creates jobs in a country whose labor force can turn its fortunes and off course for the one who is investing as well
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Wednesday, September 25, 2019 08:02 PM PST 

Which is the best investment for 1 kanal?
DHA Phase 10 or Phase 13?

What is location of DHA Phase 10?

And which of the 2 location is best?

I heard DHA phase 13 is next to Raavi River, land ia not good for building houses and also its in flood zone. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Thanks.

Property replied on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 11:48 PM PST 

Do you really think that DHA will make a complete phase in flood and once the flood will come everything will go with it?

These are just stories so that you should consider other options; my recommendation if you want to gain in 2 to 3 years then Phase 13, if you want to make a house as soon as possible even then phase 13, if you want to make a house in 7 to 10 years then Phase 10 and if you can increase your budget and want good gains as well go for Phase 9 town.

Javed506 replied on Thursday, September 26, 2019 01:48 AM PST 

So DHA 10 is around 7+ years away?
Does that mean development will start after like 7+ or more years?

For now only considering options for 1 Kanal investment

Javed506 replied on Thursday, September 26, 2019 04:39 AM PST 

Ok so does that mean prices will remain same for at least next 3 years in DHA phase 10?

Jk replied on Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:44 AM PST 

CMY in his video ,told that currently dha 13 in flood zone . It will become safe if ring road loop completed

Abdul Ghafour replied on Thursday, September 26, 2019 02:00 PM PST 

Welcome to JK after a long time to see on LRE.

Truth replied on Friday, September 27, 2019 01:56 AM PST 

User 6006
3rd class mental, foolish and idiot person.
Who fool will listen u.

Property replied on Friday, September 27, 2019 02:03 PM PST 

@User_6006

I think you completely misunderstood my response. The question was the comparison between these 2 projects only so between the two project if anyone plans to building a house and starts living then I believe phase 13 will be relatively faster than phase 10, i am not talking only in-terms of development and possession, I am referring to the fact that shops and commercial areas will get operationalised, maybe some hospital, schools, mosques and other related aspects of living in a particular area.

What I meant with 2-3 years was that in 2-3 years phase 13 will gain more as compared to phase 10 but in a longer time-span I believe phase 10 will be of a higher price point as compared to 13. The 13 will stop at a certain price point which I believe will be 20 to 30% lower than phase 10.

Iftikhar dogar replied on Sunday, September 29, 2019 05:52 AM PST 

@truth shame on you and your elders who brought you up. Shame on you for misinforming people.shame on your parents.due to you in changed my mind and now i have to pay more. Shame on your every blood members.you r a disgusting pimp and negative human
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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:49 AM PST 
New Policy

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Property inflation coming soon
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DHA Lahore Phase 9 Block Wise Rates Update From Lahore Real Estate Apr

DHA Lahore Phase 9 Block Wise Rates Update From Lahore Real Estate April, 2019


2➖Kanal

D Block: 325 to 425

1➖Kanal

A-Block: 105 to 150 Lacs
B-Block: 90 To 130 Lacs
C-Block: 78 To 150 Lacs
D-Block: 78 to 150 Lacs
E-Block: 78 to 135 Lacs
F-Block: 80 to 135 Lacs
G-Block: 90 to 135 Lacs
H-Block: 78 to 135 Lacs
K-Block: 80 to 125 Lacs
L-Block: 78 to 135 Lacs
M-Block: 80 to 130 Lacs
N-Block: 78 to 125 Lacs
P-Block: 78 to 150 Lacs
Q-Block: 85 to 145 Lacs
R-Block: 82 to 115 Lacs

10➖Marla
C-Block: 70 To 85 Lacs
F-Block: 65 To 82 Lacs
J-Block: 60 To 70 Lacs
K-Block: 62 To 78 Lacs
L-Block: 57 To 78 Lacs
R-Block: 70 to 82Lacs

5➖Marla
J-Block: 36 to 50 Lacs
K-Block: 37 to 55 Lacs
L Block : 36 to 42 Lacs
R-Block: 38 to 55 Lacs

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FRH replied on Monday, April 1, 2019 11:24 PM PST 

Prices are same or lower after paying full development charges. In terms of $, About 40-50% money is lost within couple of years. What's happening with property? Let's have open discussion please.

Ahmad replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 02:06 AM PST 

Dear FRH,

There is no money lost within the last couple of years. May I ask you a question? Would you like to sell your property at the price listed above?

FRH replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:59 AM PST 

Actually I'm an overseas. Purchased plot by cashing out $'s @ about 100-105. Now $ is @ about 144-145 so based on this, money is lost as the plot prices are almost the same and plus paid development charges as well.

thinker replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 01:19 PM PST 

Dear FRH
There are a number of reasons cited for the property decline like taxes, FBR etc, but the real reason is different. We must understand the difference between the VALUE of an asset and its PRICE. The value of an asset is how much income it can generate and price is what market sentiments determine. Right now in Pakistan the price of property is much more than its value. For e.g a house in islamabad costs 7 crores, thats its price but it can generate rental income of just 1.5 laks per month that is its value. Similarly shops cost around 1.5 to 2 crores on ground floor in major shopping areas, but they cannot generate so much income as to be feasible for anyone to buy them and start a business. Therefore unless the value of property matches with its price, it will remain stagnant. So how long will it take to match the two. Currently the price is 2X the value of the underlying asset, so considering around 10% increase in income of Pakistanis per year it would take 7 years. Best case 5 years. So dont expect any appreciation before that.

Suggestion replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 01:41 PM PST 

If you are genuine buyer, then it is good time
If you are investor than go for some other type of investment e.g., dollar or gold for some time till property again got better

thinker replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 02:10 PM PST 

How is it a good time if you are a genuine buyer ????? If the price is not going to increase and just stay the same lets say for one year, then why I should not buy after one year, and let my money grow at 12% in national savings or dollar or what ever. For me it would be 12% cheaper next year..

alpha replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 02:21 PM PST 

FRH sb. Chill. It just the economic ebb and flow. Pakistanis are going to reproduce at exponential rate - so in the long run you are good. Besides stop cribbing about changing your dollars - you are free to invest in US stocks like Lyft and take an instant hit of 10%

Curious replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 04:12 PM PST 

@thinker: good point mate!

Advice for you replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 09:40 PM PST 

FRH, No body knows in 2015 dollar will be Rs.142. So, if you no need money just wait for right time. Prices will be increase sooner or later.

KSA Banker® replied on Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:46 PM PST 

I find the analysis and views presented by "thinker" and "FRH" as very accurate and spot on. I can attest to that with my personal experience. During the 15 months period between Jan 2017 and Mar 2018, i invested a total of around 580,000 dollars in Prism. The prices of the plots since then have remain almost unchanged or have slightly declined in Pak rupees terms. However, due to depreciation of the Pak rupee against the dollar (from around 105 rupees to 140 rupees against one dollar), my investment in dollar terms is currently around 30% down compared to the cost. Even being a long term investor, I am afraid it will take quite a number of years for me to recover my original investment.

I also fully agree with the point regarding mismatch between properties prices and intrinsic values. At the prevailing properties prices and rents, the yield for a common investor on both residential and commercial properties is way too low compared to the risks of investing in the Pakistani real estate market. It will take a combination of significant increase in rents and decline in properties prices to achieve an economically viable equilibrium where investors would find it attractive to invest in real estate assets in Pakistan. Such an adjustment, as pointed out above, may take years if it really happens.

Best Regards

Asif replied on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 02:02 AM PST 

Very valid points wrt Rupee devaluation and intrinsic values. What is the way out from here for new investor? I can not see any reasonable return in Pakistan property for coming years. But what are the other avenues,

USA Doc replied on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 03:34 AM PST 

I agree with KSA banker....I also invested back in 2017 and 2018 in US dollars two kanal plots each in prism
I am currently at a loss looking at US dollar rate but I know I will hold those long and for sure they will go up in value in 3-5 years as it’s still under development phase
If u look at 2 Kanal plots phase 3/5/6/8 they are trading 6 crore to 10 crore
So eventually it will be ok
In short term yes there is loss
But long term in good location under developed areas you will still gain

Truth replied on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:48 AM PST 

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Property inflation coming soon

Thinker replied on Wednesday, April 3, 2019 06:52 PM PST 

Thanks KSA Banker...
The problem for overseas investors going forward is that dollar will not be stable for any period of time unlike in the past where it was at 104 for almost 4 years. Government is going for free float which means that each year it will be 10% more (based on the fact that inflation in Pakistan has touched 9.4% this month and would increase further, so the rupee will lose value by 10-12% per year against the dollar). It will gradually fall to 145 by May and then continue its fall and will hit 155 by december.
Although Asad umar has announced that non filers will be allowed to purchase property from July after the budget, however he has mentioned two other things. 1. DC rates would be brought exactly upto market rates. 2. FBR will investigate all non filers who buy property. Therefore once rates are equal to DC rates it will be very difficult for non filers to justify their income to FBR. I dont see any increase in prices due to this reason, other than the real value of plots that I alluded to earlier. I think the sooner we all accept that the party is over, the better it would be. It had become a Ponzi scheme and was sure to fall, just like all bubbles.

Kamal Khan® replied on Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:48 AM PST 

Really interesting views -some are quite realistic and reflective of what the ground realities are. Would request CMY to share what views does he hold in the given situation.

pity replied on Thursday, April 4, 2019 02:31 AM PST 

US dollar is a huge bubble too. After signing up with IMF, it is bound to become slow and will not increase the way it did in past months. Maximum it ll reach probably around pkr 150. Free float might be another scheme to let usd dollar spread in market and then give a sudden shock of us dollar depreciation against pkr. Just like cars, buying property by non filers is freedom. Buying property would be still better than buying dollar or invest in stock market. Many non filers are the people who came/earned from abroad, doing jobs, businesses etc and have proper earning. For filing first time they do not have to prove everything, they need to declare everything. These people are not zardaris or shareefs or the elite who avoid tax. Asad um-a-r is developing schemes and then ditching the same schemes.

Kh Qasim replied on Thursday, April 4, 2019 05:22 PM PST 

I believe US dollar is bound to increase with prevailing above 10% inflation rate. It will definitely not coming down it will reach 150 and will increase further though at a steady pace. Regarding real estate, keep in mind the population is increasing fast, there are lot of people with money interested in owing properties in big cities so the demand is there and will be there. There is hardly any property on mortgage as compared to western countries where rising interest rate will burst the property bubble. Real cash, savings are poured into the real estate market. Trend is that people save and buy plots for the future generation. The insurance companies like state life and banks too have real estate in their holdings. Fundamentals don't change yes current trends are not positive but the situation will change when the dust will settle. In the short term the dollar will win but in the medium term it will be break even and in long term the real estate will win. Its very easy to say to sell property and buy dollars but in reality it is difficult to implement. The taxes, commission and sometime 5-10 lac extra you have to pay to cunning dealers will spoil everything.
For new investors, it is an ideal time year 2019 to look for property and get a good deal.

Saeed replied on Thursday, April 4, 2019 06:04 PM PST 

Agree with Kh Qasim on everything. But regarding US dollar i have doubt.
Property like gold is ever green investment. Now is the best buying time.

Ahmed replied on Thursday, April 4, 2019 06:36 PM PST 

Just to say this is a brilliant discussion. We haven't had a discussion like this for some time. Would be great to see and hear more views.

Just my contribution - yes, rupee weakness will hit overseas investors. But that also makes now a good time to buy if you have spare dollars?
And surely in rupee terms, plot prices will increase in the long term? What are your thoughts.

Salam and duas.

Kh Qasim replied on Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:48 PM PST 

Mr. CMY is long term player unlike many seasonal players here. He himself said those talking about property bubble were chewing bubble gum when he entered real estate market. The future for property is bright. DHA Prism and other phases are prime investments and good location plot will be above 300 lac + in 4-5 years time. Actually there are fewer safe investments like DHA. In dollar terms, it will above break-even I am not sure depending upon lot of factors. Though, many of my predictions went wrong. I predicted good location prism plots like A 463,A 222,C 445,C 301,D 598,D 251 valued at 87+13(development charges) on Mar 16 to be 133 on Mar 19.
Post No. 1163 (dated 13 Mar 2016)
My estimation for Prism good location (clean) plot worth 81 lac now adding 19 lac development charges total cost 100 lacs will be priced as follows:
Mar 2017: 113
Mar 2018: 122
Mar 2019: 133
Mar 2020: 147
Mar 2021: 164
Mar 2022: 185
Mar 2023: 210
Mar 2024: 245
Mar 2025: 300
Still believe, year , decent plot in DHA prism will be 300+.

Numb replied on Thursday, April 4, 2019 10:56 PM PST 

Very good discussion , I think dollar will be stable after 150 and it will go up to 156 in a year time, But after 2020 it will strike back,

However ,Property will be the winner in Long term investment , DHA Multan & Prism will be good options.

Ahmed replied on Friday, April 5, 2019 06:40 PM PST 

Good points - what is the advice for investing only a small amount, like 50 lacs in order to get a good return in Lahore in this current market?

Numb replied on Saturday, April 6, 2019 01:40 AM PST 

Ahmed, Prism & DHA Multan will gain 70 to 80% in 2 years time ( My 20 cent). Rest Allah knows we can just expect on the basis of last years investment & gain.
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Sunday, July 3, 2016 07:14 PM PST 
mindset

what is the confusion capital gain tax on revised dc rates will be implemented on each transaction less than five years old actually the mindset of our investors and people in pakistan is that they are not ready to pay any tax whatsoever and you can check the active tax payer list of fbr and you find very limited people who are filers rest majority of people commenting here are non filers and wants to remain non filers for ever how is this possible bhai you need to understand that each and every citizen 18 years old in canada and america are made to file their returns via internet there is absolute no hiding of income or profits or gain it is a serious crime there so my dear we should also bring everybody in tax net and start paying taxes all these countries are being run on taxes . people commenting here are all non tax payers and they abuse for one reason or another :pkf

User_9325® replied on Sunday, July 3, 2016 07:17 PM PST 

yu are in canada so thats busines as usual for you but we being in middle east are not used to this. I guess here mostly people living in gulf countries are protesting

truth replied on Sunday, July 3, 2016 08:29 PM PST 

Nadeem confusion isnt revised DC rate but FBR and state bank officials evaluating your property every time you buy and sell and bullying you for money trail.
This sounds fair in a western system but hopefully when you have to deal with an FBR clerk or officer in Pak, you will know what i mean!
Taxes no problem but the harassment from the corrrupt officials is a nightmare of any honest pakistani....

Adeel Khan® replied on Sunday, July 3, 2016 09:12 PM PST 

TEST

Adeel Khan® replied on Sunday, July 3, 2016 09:18 PM PST 

Dear Nadeem Sb, Everybody wants to see his country growing, getting developed, getting his children high class education, best healthcare facilities for all the citizens, zero crime, security for its citizens best services in Govt Sector, and thats where all the money of tax payer goes. Unfortunately thats all not happening in our country whereas all is in practice in those countries u mentioned above. otherwise i believe no one would try escaping from paying due taxes if he gets in return all above against our paid tax.
Thats the point.

LOYAL PAKISTANI replied on Monday, July 4, 2016 02:39 AM PST 

We should realize now that govt is doing remarkable developments in every walk of life. That is why the property is increasing so rapidly but problem starts when we are not ready to pay a single penny from our profit.

Please be practically sincere with Pakistan. Our army is helping out our country so zarb e azb going on. Govt needs funds to meet its expenses.

We should not follow drama by opposition. This is the time to do support our army our govt to move our country ahead of crises once for all.

I'm looking bright future of Pakistan.

Ahmad786® replied on Monday, July 4, 2016 06:51 AM PST 

People pay CVT and CGT even now so don't say people done give taxes. DC rate is a standard proving mechanism without much hassle.The government the self kept DC rate lower than market since it helps government when they buy plots. Even now they did not abolish DC rates. Can't you see that Government is dishonest here? People pay taxes even when they buy a needle. No country in whole world charge 17% sales tax but our government does. They deduct 25% from my salary straight away and they still keep on taxing me on my tax payey money. Do you think that makes sense?

Please try registering your nick just like we all did.

Ali.Bianco replied on Monday, July 4, 2016 08:16 AM PST 

I pay abt 30 millions in taxes each year and every year budget kills me more , they dnt treat tax payer a citizen rather consider him atm machine. Now fbr people also big problem sending notices on usess issues due to extra powers and you have to pay them under the table... Govt should make system simple and tax scales at realistic levels to get tax . Musharraf's time economy was much better due to relived taxes and good amount of business and stable exchange rates. This govt is just want thirs force to come in and kick them out so that they can become "siasi shaheed" because due to loans now it is not easy to govern country...

aamer replied on Tuesday, July 5, 2016 04:34 PM PST 

DEAR NADEEM 25

in Canada/America if people are paying taxes,,they are getting result of that,, what is in Pakistan ,,only corruption, all benefits are for politicians,, no infrastructure , no medical care, no justice for poor people,, every thing is for rich people,,and those rich people are not paying taxe ,,and getting all facilities,,

disappointed with all that sonerio ,, I am not against tax ,,I strongly recommend that we all should pay tax ,,but must be used honestly for welfare of Pakistan.

MIT® replied on Wednesday, July 6, 2016 06:38 AM PST 

@Ahmad786..Very correct and well said: People are paying layers of taxes now due to the corrupt 'rulers' (both past & current), and the one self declared more loyal Pakistani is misstating the facts, hiding behind a valid ID.

MIT® replied on Wednesday, July 6, 2016 06:41 AM PST 

...pl correct to read.."hiding behind invalid ID"(above).
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