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Thursday, September 20, 2012 01:28 AM PST 
Jubilee town Lahore

Jubilee town Lahore is also LDA scheme with complete development infrastructure no litigation and no qabza group, safest for investment.

Hafeez

Javed replied on Thursday, September 20, 2012 03:00 AM PST 

Agree with Hafeez Sb. This scheem will best once construction will start since the location wise means located on the canal road next to Izmir.

lahore lover replied on Thursday, September 20, 2012 03:26 PM PST 

Javed Sb

Could you please inform us the rough idea that how much time need to complete the transfer of plot.

shams replied on Thursday, September 20, 2012 04:05 PM PST 

Approximatly 30-40 days to transfer the plot.
But if you pay double transfer fee then Less then 30 days

lahore lover replied on Thursday, September 20, 2012 04:36 PM PST 

Dear Shams

thank you for your reply.

will appreciate if you inform us below things

1) what is the transfer fee for 10 Marla plot - single/double fee.
2) Best block of Jubilee town for 10 Marla plot.
3) Lahore Real Estate is dealing with jubilee town, so any recommended properly dealer who will help to complete the transfer procedure quickly.

EH replied on Thursday, September 20, 2012 05:41 PM PST 

CAN ANYBODY TELL ME THE 10 MARLA PLOT PRICE IN D BLOCK.

M waqas replied on Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:24 PM PST 

A block best because facing canal road and main entry from canal road.In D block 10 marla prices 16lac t0 22lac depending on location.Construction on going every block of jubilee town.

lahore lover replied on Friday, September 21, 2012 12:06 AM PST 

dear brother waqas !

thank you for your help.

Please also comment on below couple of questions !

1) what is the transfer fee for 10 Marla plot - single/double fee.

2) Any recommended dealer for jubilee town.

3) What is the rate of 10 marla plot in A block.

Waiting for your response brother!

Advisor replied on Friday, September 21, 2012 02:01 AM PST 

Dear Lahore Lover
There is no 10 marla in block A (only one kanal). The best block in terms of 10 Marala is block C which is attached to Izmir and commercial area.

aziz nador replied on Tuesday, February 17, 2015 07:28 AM PST 

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Irfan replied on Monday, January 7, 2019 09:09 PM PST 

Transfer fee of 10 Marla plot of jublee town. Total two partner, one partner buy another share
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Thursday, December 22, 2011 09:29 PM PST 
heating system for house

Dear Experts,

Sorry, my question is not related to real estate but I hope it is not too irrelavant to this site:

Wonder if anyone could give suggestion on whether to go for central heating system which is run on gas using a boiler and pump or to opt for normal gas heaters for every room. which option is best suited economically and safely while considering our winters and gas pressure issues.

Regards

R. Khan

jk replied on Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:11 PM PST 

Uses of radiators with gas and boilers are in these days.
A company having there showroom in front of DHA-2 Islamabad ( I am missing their name ) is well renown has a team that visit sites or calculate on map and quote there prices for job and it is not too expensive but very safe.

Burning Gas heater are not advisable at all especially when one is asleep.

Ahmad replied on Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:20 PM PST 

JK - I have few question Can you please send me you email address at

Yameen replied on Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:33 PM PST 

Mr jk, what is the approx installation charges in 50*90 house and gas bill per room/heater.

jk replied on Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:47 PM PST 

Cooper radiators are ideal aluminum is number 2 while mettle is cheapest.

Not only the expensive will lost longer but will have less maintenance as well. It will cost you from 3 to 5 lack for a 1K double story house

boss-sk replied on Friday, December 23, 2011 02:43 PM PST 

do we have gas to run such a system....imp question...:)

atiq raja. replied on Friday, December 23, 2011 07:22 PM PST 

Pakistan is worst place to live,no security,law and order even have not basic things.Public deserve for that.

Aamir replied on Friday, December 23, 2011 08:37 PM PST 

@atiq raja: I beg to disagree that Pakistan is worst place to live but you are right that public deserves that, since we are the one who elect the type of leaders who have brought the country to this dismal situation.

Nadeem replied on Saturday, December 24, 2011 01:19 AM PST 

@ atiq raja ... It is very easy to point out things. What have you done to make the worst place(as u said) into the best place. What is ur contribution to make Pakistan a best place to live? If nothing, then u don't have right to say anything. Do ur best to make this land best, so that on the day of judgement u could say I DID MY BEST.

Love Pakistan replied on Saturday, December 24, 2011 02:57 PM PST 

Raja Sahib, Ridiculous comments you say about pakistan

boss-sk replied on Sunday, December 25, 2011 12:54 AM PST 

its not the Pakistan,,,its us who r worst.

Shabbir replied on Sunday, December 25, 2011 05:14 AM PST 

@ atiq raja
At least you are honest and say how you feel. I respect that.

@ boss-sk
I agree with you. Pakistan can be the wonder of this world. However we the 18 million people are not right. Time to look deep down in our souls.

Central Heating system replied on Sunday, December 25, 2011 06:18 AM PST 

Central heating is very expensive in monthly bills, per my neighbour who installed it in his house. Depends on the number of rooms where you want the radiators. You do not have to warm your whole house but can use it any room/rooms where you want. Installation is not a huge cost, approx. 3-3.5 lakhs but monthly bills are very high. Gas heaters are more affordable and practical.

Yes, there is gas in most parts of the country. The CNG stations are the problem and they need to be shut down. If people cannot afford petrol, they should use public transport, like in scandinavian countries.

Pakistan is the best place to live in with the most talented people, and the people do not deserve to live in miserable conditions. We just need to think who we elect in the next election, take responsibility for our actions, do our part and start paying taxes.

Atiq Raja may be sitting in a central heated apartment somewhere in the west and trying to blend in locally where ever he is, with ESL classes as a first step, but he would be naive, not to know that he would be looked over with suspicion day in and day out and subject to racial profiling and discrimination. Even obtaining a foreign passport, changing your name to a John Ray, or celebrating Christmas instead of Eid would not resolve that problem.

Although there may be shortage of gas here, but people that have seen and experienced both places, would rather be in their homeland despite some problems, and most do opt for the option of settling back in Pakistan once they have some financial stability or a decent job offer. The ones that are lucky get the chance sooner, and unfortunately the rest keep planning and discussing the option till they live, and unfortunately see their kids / future generation get away from the religion, culture and values right infront of their eyes. At times, they cannot move back because their kids do not want to move back. There are exception, but this is the story of most people overseas. The critics of Pakistan overseas are mostly those people that cannot move back due to either current financial conditions, children/other half do not want to move back becuase they were born there, or unfortunately belonged to a very poor family background in Pakistan, and to them, a central heating/cooling system, a new financed car, a 25-30 years mortgaged house of their own, a bank credit card means success. Once again, we are talking about statistics and not exceptions.

A Pakistani replied on Sunday, December 25, 2011 07:35 PM PST 

I strongly agree with bhi "Central Heating system".

Staying abroad for a long time and holding US or UK nationality or passport in your pocket doesn't mean you enjoy the same respect as Americans or English have. You are always considered as 2nd or 3rd class citizens in these countries. This I am telling you with my own learning and observations. I am abroad since last 12 years for my job exigencies and travelled almost every corner of the word but I never feel comfortable and homely despite lots of money which I earned. I have many of my close relatives and friends who settled in Canada, US or Australia for a better future but they all love and miss Pakistan every moment. Why they miss Pakistan ? because they got the passport and money but no respect, no social status and happiness. They work day and night for money only and feel something missing in their lives.

Please keep in mind, Pakistan is our love, destiny and everything. Where ever we live or work is temporary. This is true that our infrastructure is not good, our roads and streets are dirty, economy is in bad shape due to corrupt and bad governess but this is our responsibility to correct and eradicate these ills, work hard and make our country and nation strong. We should invest all our resources in Pakistan where we have every sense of ownership, freedom, respect, traditions and our own social and moral values.

Allah bless our nation and Pakistan, Insha Allah.

Sorry for talking off the topic.

eh replied on Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:03 PM PST 

With all the respect to everyone, i want to add that Pakistan is not the worst place but we are the worst people who brought it to this level just for our personal advantages. I am working abroad since 27 years and first time in my life I see hope about our future in Pakistan. It is not because of PTI, PMLNm PPPP or any other but from the realisation and awakening of the middle class.

Pakistan is our Land, our Love, our hope, our future and a challenge on us to fix it. Before saying anything about Pakistan keep in mind when Pakistan was liberated we don't had any industry even cloth was rationed and no paper was available for office use, still there are some official orders/documents written on the back of envelops could be found in national archives and now we can produce and export 100's of items.

Ali hamza replied on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 02:21 AM PST 

Every 1 this guy Atiq raja is sick person so be aware of him.... 1 day he says DHA is best and 2nd month he says D-12, E-11 or G-13 is best. so please understand what he try to make of you guys...... better ask him how many plots he have in DHA lol.......... he is crazy , 1 time he don't count G series as sector and 2nd time he tells to invest........... one he call pakistan a hell and 2nd he keep telling people to invest, trust me he is sick and want to make money only.............better use sum kind of hole with his name......
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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 07:10 PM PST 
Punjab to tax rich and their posh lifestyle

Punjab to tax rich and their posh lifestyle




ISLAMABAD: The Punjab government will significantly tax posh facilities used by the elite like private swimming pools, large farmhouses, private medical colleges, multi-source income shown as proceeds from agriculture land holdings and sprawling houses in expensive localities.
“The purpose is to tax the rich. The move is part of efforts to generate own resources in order to lessen dependence on foreign grants and loans,” a senior official told our sources. Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif recently announced to smash the begging bowl and mobilize indigenous resources to meet the pressing financial requirements.

Farmhouses measuring 2400 square yards (four kanals) and above will be required to pay a certain amount of annual tax. The official said farmhouses having the covered area of 5,000 square feet and above and having different sizes would be categorized for the purposes of levying various amounts of tax.

Only those farmhouses would be taxable, which are located outside the “rating areas” meaning the previously demarcated municipal limits. The official said that even in villages, rich people have made big houses, which would fall in the definition of farmhouses and would face the new tax. The tax would be computed on per square foot.

He said that a number of wealthy people have made swimming pools in their houses mostly in basements in Lahore and some other cities, but were paying no tax whatsoever. While in many countries tube wells are not allowed to be erected, these pools get water from such sources, the official said.

He said that as scores of private medical colleges in Punjab were charging exorbitant fees from students, they were not paying taxes. They have to be brought in the tax net so that they also make contribution to national resources.

According to one estimate, there are some 3,000 students studying in the private medical colleges in Punjab alone. They charge heavy fees starting with the minimum of half a million rupees per annum and going up to one million.

Another category being brought in the tax net consists of those who have multi-sources income, which is clubbed with earnings from agriculture land. These people own factories and other businesses but show their income from them as coming from agriculture just to get tax exemption. This income would be levied agriculture tax, which is a provincial subject.

They generally show their factories and businesses running into losses and whatever they earn from them, they declare as income from agriculture for exemption. The official said that tax on expansive houses in posh localities like Gulberg and Model Town and such areas in other cities, mostly described as A category residences, would be considerably enhanced.

“The whole effort is to tax a certain lifestyle because if you are rich, earn a lot from different sources and spend generously on the facilities you are enjoying, you have to pay the due tax,” the official said.

He said that homework on these proposals has been concluded, and the new taxes would be included in the next budget to be presented in a few weeks time. Billions would come in the coffers of the cash-starved Punjab government through such measures, he said and believed that still there were many areas, which were untaxed.

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Salman replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 07:21 PM PST 

First of all Nawaz Sharif should pay tax himself. He only paid Rs. 5000/- last year.

Salman replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 07:28 PM PST 

Secondly, more than 75% of your Members of Parliament haven't paid a single penny in Tax and that includes our Finance Minister, PM and President. If they have money to contest elections, drive lavish cars, keep property in Pakistan and abroad, why dont they pay first....

Pakistani replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:07 PM PST 

@123
shukar karo us ne 5000 bhi de diye. warna woh bhi na deta to hum kiya kar saktay thay :)

tzk replied on Thursday, May 26, 2011 03:21 AM PST 

nawaz paid 5000 for either 2007 or 2008 now paid more but still very little. these crooks have to stand up and pay their fair share. They start it and we will do multiple times more. Lets say nawaz, zardari, gilani, kyani, altaf etc etc or atleast 10% of the leaders declare all of their wealth and give 10% to the country and i will give 50% of whatever i have

Nawaz Sharif Tax replied on Thursday, May 26, 2011 07:54 PM PST 

Though Nawaz Sharif pays a very little amount of tax individually but his Mills and other Business areas pay significant amount of tax , which is in billions.

The taxable amount that should be paid by Nawaz Sharif as in individual should be the based on his perosnal spendings per month which i belive would be under 0.5 million.Still , its his duty to pay no doubt about that but i would like to repeast they do pay taxes from their respective businesses which is in the range of 3-5 billion rupees per annum.

ua replied on Friday, May 27, 2011 12:55 AM PST 

If the personal earnings are Rs. 0.5 million, the tax liability still be a lot more than Rs. 5000. I earn a fraction of 0.5 million and pay a lot more than Rs. 5000 in a single month!!

tzk replied on Friday, May 27, 2011 04:15 AM PST 

Mr Nawaz Sharif Tax:

Tax paid by the companies of sharif family is NOT income tax. Major portion of the tax paid by those companies is the tax they collect from people and pay to govt on our behalf.

For the argument sake, lets say all the tax paid by his companies is the tax not collected by these companies but paid by them from their own resources, still it is not tax by nawaz shareef. Whatever money goes to Nawaz shareef, he has to pay personal income tax on that.

Just check with people who are doing business
I have small business where we dont sell products and hence we dont collect sales tax, but the company pays all kinds of taxes including corporate income tax. On top of that me and my partnerrs pay income tax on the income we get from that business.

Is it too complicated to understand? Stop giving that crap that the tax collected and submitted to the govt by sugar mills and other companies of nawaz is his personal income tax. It is NOT!

eh replied on Friday, May 27, 2011 06:18 PM PST 

Zardari's father owned 1 cinema during 70's and the business has a downward trend since then even then his businesses are in profit and he has purchase so many palace, properties in many countries. Did anybody checked how much tax he has paid. Where he is multiplying his money every year, if it is within Pakistan; is he paying any tax and if it is abroad how much taxes he is paying abroad? From where he got all that wealth to buy those palaces and properties? Is it from that cinema of his father or he is selling something else?

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Saturday, January 1, 2011 10:47 PM PST 

“Pakistanis are poor but Pakistan is not a poor country”,says one of the Swiss Bank Directors.
He says that “28 trillion(28,000,000,000,000) of Pak Rupees are deposited in Swiss Banks which can be used for:
* “Tax free” budgets for 30 years.
* Can create job for 60 million Pakistanis.
* Constructing 4 lane roads from any village to Islamabad.
* Ensure forever free supply to more than 500 social projects.
* Financial Assistance of Rs. 20,000 per month to every citizen for 60 years.
* Disbanding the need of World Bank and IMF loans.

Think how our money is stolen and blocked by rich corrupt politicians, bureaucrats & others.
We have full right to react against all these corrupt people.

imran replied on Saturday, January 1, 2011 11:33 PM PST 

so true

Rahim replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 01:01 AM PST 

Vote for Imran khan PTI who will ensure to get this money back to Pakistan Insha Allah.

ali11 replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 01:40 AM PST 

@ Strange

what's the source of this news ? would like to share ???

sincere advisor replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 01:45 AM PST 

inspite of this foolish people are saying that they are pets of zardari and muslim league and they will weave their tails only for these parties.Allah ka wasta aap logon ko aqal kab aaye gi.kia aap oon logon k paltoo koutay hein oon ko dakh kr dum hilatay hein.jo banday is mulk k saath mukhlis nahein ha oos ko ootha kr bahir phank do.sirf oon logon ko laao jo is mulk k saath mukhlis ha.jis ki property or paisa is mulk mein ha.oos banday ne apna sab kuch is mulk ko day dia ha.to kia ab aap frishtoon ka intizar kr rahay hein k wo is mulk ka intizam sambhalein.aap k paas aik sincere banda ha oos ki qadar kroo aisa na ho k humein aik bar phir pachtana pray.

Observation replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 02:38 AM PST 

Most of this money belong to the ministers of both ruling parties.
No one dare to ask.. what is your source of income and which means were used to send this money abroad.

In such circumstances those people have no right to hold public office.

dk replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 03:11 AM PST 

karz utaro mulk sanwaro money

bhutto zardari treasures

zakaat/sadqa from people who support altaaf
my aunts neigborhood in karachi gives all zakaat/sadqa to fund mqm
for their "nobel cause"
my aunts nextdoor had 2 sons one got "shaheed in the name of altaaf and she's willing to let the other get qurbaan for altaaf :)

sincere advisor replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 04:44 AM PST 

pata nahein hum logon ko aqal kab aani ha.

Guest replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 05:50 AM PST 

Imran Khan has also deposited one billion us dollar in swiss banks which he got from Jamaima after the divorce.

Khan. replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 09:20 AM PST 

Even if he has $10 Billion, its not Pakistan's money. Rest e.g. rich corrupt politicians, bureaucrats & others have Pakistan's wealth.

eh replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 01:29 PM PST 

Sadqa/Zakaat money i)s haraam for Ahle-bait. Altaf claim to be a Syed so he do not deserve this. Did anyone ever tried to calculate how much money MQM is collecting in this head and on the gunpoint as bhatta and sending it to London to Altaf(Bhaoon Bhaoon; this is what he did in his speech. What is his mental level but still the self proclaimed most educated people of Pakistan vote for him and sacrifice their sons and kill the others. As this type of sacrifice is never oneway, it is to kill or to be killed and this is called talibanization.

hassan replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 05:42 PM PST 

u were not able to get a letter written to Swis banks what else. what u want people the buzdil middle class have no ability to look about their nose only to criticise. pl staop

Strange replied on Sunday, January 2, 2011 10:05 PM PST 

http://pkpolitics.com/2009/11/13/properties-of-altaf-hussain-in-uk/

guest replied on Monday, January 3, 2011 05:06 PM PST 

Properties of MQM's Altaf Hussain:

http://www.easenews.net/properties-of-altaf-hussain-in-uk
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Friday, July 23, 2010 04:43 PM PST 
16 Marla House for Sale in Griffin Canal Bank Lahore

16 marla house is available for sale. It is situated in Griffin Canal Bank, Lahore. It has 6 bedrooms.

eh replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:55 AM PST 

Paisay?
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Friday, July 9, 2010 02:03 PM PST 

I am writing this to apologize......

To apologize from the previous dictatorial regime and its supporter...

To apologize from Rtd. Gen. Pervez Musharaf....

As I have been criticizing on them a lot during their tenure....

Advocating for the Democracy...

....I was wrong...very wrong...

All efforts, all struggle that the judges, lawyers, media, journalist, civil socielty, and political workers have done to bring democracy in Pakistan became successful on 18th Feb 2008.

But the PPP and PMLN led govenment has disappointed the whole nation.

..no no no...this is not the democracy...this is worst then dictatorship....

I already had no hopes from Zardari, but Nawaz Sharif and Shabaz Sharif have disappointed me a lot. Their role is negative in the whole situation.....they have done nothing positive

...once again...please if someone can find Rtd. Gen Musaharaf, Shaukat Aziz, Tariq Aziz, anf all their Azizs, and their supporter....tell them...that

....I apologize

....please come back

AD1 replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 05:46 PM PST 

Democracy is the best REVENGE !!! THAT ALL THESE F***ING LEADERS ARE TAKING and above all they have nothing at stake.

Dushman-ane-Mush replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 05:53 PM PST 

Mush.. kay naam! Teri yaad aee Teray Janay ke baad........

stn replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 06:06 PM PST 

stop crying over spilt milk

nasir1 replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 06:52 PM PST 

The problem, when these retarded dishonest politician are in opposition, they somehow speak for people, but when ruling, they are employees of west.

Democracy is not for our country. It will never be!

Ali Khan Jeddah replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 07:12 PM PST 

musharaf was ok. but he gave us terrorism as worst gift.

Salman replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 08:19 PM PST 

What the hell are u talking about?

Suicide Bombing is a gift of General Musharraf

Present Government is also a gift of General Musharraf thru NRO coz he didnt want Nawaz Sharif

Talibans are a gift of General Zia Ul Haq


and I am sure Mr AD, you are either an armyman or son of an armyman; who feels agitated that ARMY is not given a chance to EAT AND PLUNDER ANY MORE. YOUR EMPTY STOMACHS WANT MORE MORE AND MORE.

if Pakistan is uneducated today, its because we spent disproportinately high on DEFENCE. WE have been hostaged by your beloved GENERALS all these years

Imran replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 08:35 PM PST 

if you look around all over the world you will find monarch pattern (one man show ) in most of muslim countries.
Democracy is never for muslims i guess.

Asd replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 09:42 PM PST 

totaly agreed with Mr. Salman on this. These must be some retired "fauji's" thoughts or some other form of Military 'Tufailya'!!

javed replied on Friday, July 9, 2010 10:52 PM PST 

Mr. Salman and Asad are convergent in their views, i think both have some tilt and interest in the prevelant political scenario and are not independent in their views. And might not belong to the masses. What AD tried to convey is clear. No shortage, economy was better, out of IMF bound despite gambling in Stocks. We were against Musharraf principally and his action in Waziristan, Muslim slaughtering Muslim. Despite Gang of Qabza Group and Choor chaudhries people were some how in commofrts. Do not blame AD, AD has no courrage of showing his full name. My opinion is that he does not belong to faudi background, he is masses like us.

Aey Khudawanda teray saada dil bandey kidher jaien
Yehan Sultani be ayyari hey aur Darweshi be ayyari hey, Iqbal

tahir replied on Saturday, July 10, 2010 02:52 AM PST 

You know that is our problem , we start relating persons with others while listening to their point of view, like if I say govtm had done some good works(oh that's the voice of ppp supporter).I fink whtever the scenario our country is in, we ourself are responsible cause whenever we get a chance to humiliate someone we never hesitate in doing so. Nations take time to grow strong needs centuries(dnt think of china )give time to things we are in whether u like it or not dnt try to break it.INSHA ALLAH,we will become a stronger nation if not strongest

Jameel replied on Saturday, July 10, 2010 05:59 AM PST 

No Choice between the devil and deep sea,

Anwar replied on Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:56 AM PST 

There in no shortcut. What we need is democracy alongwith strong JUSTICE SYSTEM. KIndly support our Justice system. Inshallah we will survive, but definitely it will take time.
Once few politicians are in Jail, you will find marked improvements in political scenario. Further we should have NATIONAL PARTIES instead of provincial/localised. Its important for the bonding of all provinces& to reduce corruption.
I think Musharraf would be better , if he is the head of a party having roots in all provinces, elected & accepts Supreme Court supremacy.

Commentator replied on Saturday, July 10, 2010 02:46 PM PST 

The freedom of media has increased the political accumen of masses many times. Now people know their leaders far better than they could a decade ago. There is no Nawai waqt or Jang telling us who thinks what. We can see the leaders much more closely. Which is why I think, Pakistanis will start making right choices from now on.
Yes AD has raised valid food for thought. Perhaps a debate should take place whether Pakistan has the luxury of spending time on letting the democracy take roots.
In the meantime, please dont hesitate to condemn gross irregularities: like under the garb of free judiciary, freedom of media, cronies bought out by politicians start prvailing. People are not so dumb not to understand who is on whose payroll.

Khan-1 replied on Saturday, July 10, 2010 03:10 PM PST 

I agree with AD to great extant taht Musharaf was very bad and these people are worst worst than him.But the things may change, If the people of Pakistan show their wisdom and throw away these bad & corrupt leaders. Election of NA 123 indicates that the direction of wind is changing. PTI has got significant votes in these election, Althougt PML(N) attitude is very disappointing but much better than PPPP.If PML(N) will not wakeup now, they will suffer a lot. I am sure their grapf is coming down. Many of the people of Pakistan are corrupt bot they want honesty. If the system will change, there will be merrit and justice people will chane and elect good people. Insha-Allah.

MJM Dammam replied on Saturday, July 10, 2010 04:31 PM PST 

Imran - you have every right to disagree with any of comments given on this forum but please mind your language. When logic fails this type of language is shown by desperate people. Politicans always gave a chance to Army to step in!!!

Fawad replied on Saturday, July 10, 2010 06:25 PM PST 

First of all, before critisizing, clear your mind that Musharraf is not representing the whole army of the Pakistan. Although he blonged to Pakistan army but it is an institute and not a political party. So save your time rather than discussing a never ending comparison between army and democracy.
Secondly, regardless of the discussion that whether Musharraf period or current political system was/is good/bad, a patriotic pakistani will never go against his army.

tahir replied on Sunday, July 11, 2010 03:28 AM PST 

Salam, I have one question with all due respect to our army as an institute, but why armymen use this word "BLOODY Civilians"?

eh replied on Sunday, July 11, 2010 04:48 AM PST 

tahir, this is because they know their family members well since most of their family members belongs to civilians. Please don't talk about idiots who don't know what they are talking about.
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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 02:48 AM PST 
What is going on in Pakistan????

The court had restored the all the criminal charges against the Interior Minister but the President has pardoned him!!!!!!!!!

What else you expect….from a bigger thief to a comparatively smaller thief….

Pakistan has become a Dakoo-stan….where a Dakoo is sitting in the Presidency….people with proven illegal educational degrees are being given party tickets for elections and convincing by Prime Ministers…

Meray mooh may khaak….is this not the approaching end of Pakistan?

I am really disgusted with all that is going on in Pakistan



... :h

AD replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 02:53 AM PST 

One correction...

The Interior Minister is properly convicted not just the criminal charges against him. His most current status is a fugitive convict.

Imran replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 03:11 AM PST 

Aap k moun mein khaak,pakistan kabhi khatam nahi ho sakta.
Have patience, give time to democracy ,chor sab bhaag jaen gay.
Jo sach hai us pe dutt jaen
With all due respect CJP is also a biggest crook.
Why he isnt opening missing person case
Why he is not opening cases against Nawaz sharif.
Mian sb. Tou duur ki baat woh tou MNA KHAWAJA SAAD RAFIQ k khilaf( he said he became billionaire through prize bonds) case b open nahi kr raha.
Not ppp supporter
Not pml n as well
Wht i support is pakistaniat.
1 ko ganda kaho tou doosra acha nahi ho jata.
Please in sab choroun k khilaf 1 qoum ban k kharay ho jao yeh sab seedhay ho jaen gay
1 govt. Jae gi tou iss se b corrupt ae gi.

Or adliya azad nahi badzad hai.

Abdul replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 03:50 AM PST 

Trust me these BIG people in Government, Adliaya and opposition are actually very SMALL. They have power hunger and dam care for ordinary man even no worry for motherland.

Ali Khan replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 04:26 AM PST 

court restored but president waived off the criminal charges against him. this is our beloved Pakistan

GEO replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 08:35 AM PST 

Who can face a person who can tie bombs to the legs of overseas Pakistanis?
Democrazy hai hai.

eh replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:42 AM PST 

They are doing this knowingly just to propagate themselves as innocent victims in case of any eventuality.

limo replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 01:59 PM PST 

Blaming president makes no sense as he has been given this right by the constitution.Now why people gave vote to forged degree holders,chors, dacoos because they were simply asked by the SC to resign and were not punished for the crime they committed.Fine if you dont want to punish them, at least put a lifetime bar on them from taking part in elections.And now once such people contest in elections, all they need to do is just secure maximum votes among all the contestants, no matter how low is the voters turn out and how many votes have gone against him.Flawed system that needs to be blamed only.I agree with Rashid that its going to be worse than end if ..

AD replied on Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:05 PM PST 

Gentlemen

Please do remember that Judiciary is NOT Executive...the Government is...

So, you cannot blame CJP or Judiciary.

I see a severe conflict between Government & Judiciary which will result in disgraceful defeat of Government.

Sooner of later, all criminals that are sitting on higher position will end up where they deserve....Jail

But I am afraid that Pakistan will be severally harmed in this process.

May Allah save our beloved country from the Looter, Dakoos, NROs, and Miltary and Civil Dictators...A'ameen.

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Monday, December 28, 2009 12:56 AM PST 
Target Killing!

Assalam O Alaikum

I want to bring in to attention a serious matter to all my country men, as we know that our corrupt politicians have pushed our country to stone age only for their personal desires, sometime it makes me to come up to the conclusion that the only reason PAKISTAN have survived so far is because, PAKISTAN was taken on the name of ALLAH (S.A.W).

Today when we are suffering from external and internal malicious threats, our leadership have made people to just think about their daily survival food.

I am really sad and surprise about the current decision of Supreme Court of Pakistan about demolishing the SHOPPING PLAZAS which had been constructed illegally in the past.

I have been living in Gulberg 2, Lahore since my childhood, which is a LDA scheme and i know, how difficult it is to chase for a LDA sweeper to come and clean your street. it is the smallest example i can quote, i remember the time when i had been living in my own house for two years as a tenant because LDA corrupt employees just for the sake of bribe put us in their system as a tenant and i remember my father he used to go every day to LDA for two years to resolve this issue.

My purpose here to mention that when our whole regime, all politician and every department is corrupt then how come SUPREME COURT OF PAKISTAN has ordered to kill those people who have bought shops in this plazas, just ordering to demolish plazas is not a solution to this problem, it is all about killing people who have invested their hard earn money of their life, who have liabilities to marry their young daughters, the shop owners will be the victims they will be the target!

What about the plaza owners who sold out theirs shops, made good money and enjoying their lives!
How come some one construct illegal construction without paying money to LDA corrupt people? what action is going to be taken against Plaza owners and corrupt staff of LDA, who made it possible?

I know one of my uncle he invested his whole life earning and bought a shop, he got 5 kids including four daughters. what is going to be happen with him? Is it a justice to kill innocent people when we have
no system?

I really feel sorry for people of my country its really AZAB-E-ELAHI, YA ALLAH HELP INNOCENT PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN AMEEN!!!!

Regards
Usman

MM replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 04:39 AM PST 

I do AGREE,
The roots should be trimed off instead.I do feel sad about your uncle.
courts should gaurantee shop owners about their investment.
Regards,
MM

Irfan replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 05:09 AM PST 

which plaza's are these, I have one shop in Madina Centre Lahore, still under construtions.

May Allah protect everybodie's halal income.

eh replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 06:03 AM PST 

Nations spirit is dead and the vultures are on it. Where ever we find a hope we are deceived through it. Big people have their cards to play with but the poor are playing their lives. Who have the time to care about the people? Halal and Haram is for foolish people but for the have's everything is Halal, if you do not agree ask Ulema Karaam they can point thousand reasons to make Haram of your Rizq-Halal or declare you infidel and can bring ten thousand reasons to make it Halal provided you scratch their back what to expect from the Courts they are part of us.

Irfan replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 01:07 PM PST 

Strange to see that all against this Excellent action.

A good iniatative! The govt. is setting an example so people do not dare do it again.... we have to start to obey the law..... and no ifs, no buts!!! just think about the future. how important the implementation of the law is....


Regarding social prospect of this issue, remember Rizq-Halal kabhi bhi Haram ki place pa (like these illegal buildings ), Haram paso sa nahi milta

Regarding point that how can i get to know that the shop n plaza me going to purchase is legal or not. So remember shop rates in all illegal plaza's always little less then market around (15~20%) that the first sign of something wrong, 2nd almost no parking space and many other similar thing.. Ofcourse LDA corrupt is too much in past and now things going to improve.

Around more then 100+ LDA officer suspended and FIA register wih NAB help against them and ofcourse first time in pakistan history.

Finally there is always a right way to do work and sometime its little hard to follow. As nation we always find short cuts and endup in trouble.

Against the implementation of any good step there is always some or huge social ecnomical impact. So in one go can't do all so move at correct direction step by step.
e.g. Like Ban Basant many peoples say it give Rozi Roti to more then 50 thounsands but LAW supreme.

Habib replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 03:04 PM PST 

This will create even more negative sentiment in investors.

Aamir replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 03:15 PM PST 

Any structural deviation of these plazas from the LDA approved map is illegal construction. Demolishing the illegal construction is the court order which has to be up held. Now the suffers are the present owners of the shops in these Plazas. Who is to be held responsible for this suffering is yet another case. However,the original seller may be held responsible on the clause of "miss representation" that the Plaza was approved by LDA, whereas,a part or extension that was not approved sold by claiming the same.

ABD replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 04:15 PM PST 

It is the duty of individual to think before making investment and not to blame government good action against illegal construction.

Irfan replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 04:56 PM PST 

ABD, reference to your comment, if I need to invest in a shop from out of country or even if i am in country, where I can go or any government website, which confirm if the subject investment is APPROVED by authorities before I invest?

atiq raja. replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 10:06 PM PST 

pakistan is going back,this is the time to leave the country to safe you and your family,because day by day worse time is coming.

ABD replied on Monday, December 28, 2009 11:03 PM PST 

Brother Irfan,
By mentality we do not construct our own house with out violating construction rules, now you can imagine how much a developer can violate when he is constructing a selling purpose building. Unfortunately we do not have many opportunities of safe investments but to buy plot, file or construct a commercial unit to gain profit for future living.

DHA and BT is the only reliable places where one can invest with peace of mind, though these two giants are not caring well enough these days but there is no other choice. I suggest wait and see before situation improves.

SAVE Pakistan replied on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:47 AM PST 

Hei,
I am so sad to hear this news and completely agree with the Usman.
Simultaneously, we should double check before investment to make sure that the investment is accourding to the law and the land he is going to occupy is also according to the law. This needs a lot of effort but this is the only way.
We just want to become rich "rato rat" without having complete knowledge of consequences.
I think the time is coming soon that we all will be a part of civil war in the country. Once started, we should attack and start first from the parliament and then from defence area.
I will be happy if our supreme court brings few feudals/beurocrats/military generals behind the bar first.

ARG replied on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 AM PST 

@atiq raja

You call yourself a leader of PPP and now spreading this nonsense. everyone know we have problems and Inshallah we will overcome. Please leave Pakistan and never come back here again. Inshallah, we will tackle all the problems. We don't need people like your mentality in Pakistan.

And if you already left Pakistan then you don't have to post here coz you already deny your nationality. Pakistan is not for those who just come here for earning money and leave when the bad times comes. Stop this nonsense.

Jamal replied on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 02:12 AM PST 

Present govt. just want to destroy Pakistan and nothing more.
In front of my house some one has built his temporary shelter but despite numerous request from last many years Muncipal corporation is not interested to demolish it because the fellow who has encroached govt. land is actually work as middle man in corporation office. He simply go there every day and catch the needy people and get their work done by connecting them to respective officers.
Pakistan is doomed by politicians, our currency is being devalued on daily basis and those who know the monetary system knows why is it so? taxes are increased and only political activists are being benifited.

Waseem Malik replied on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 02:30 AM PST 

Atiq Raja and many others like him have brought huge investments to Pakistan. their investments not only brought business but also added up earning opportunities for so many. It has some meanings if people like Atiq Raja have lost their confidence in their own party leadership. He is not totally wrong.

saleem.k replied on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 03:06 AM PST 

dear brothres.
i am an overseas and living abroad from many years.

in my views this democratic system has failed,in which fudel lords and industrialists have all the say.they have eaten the wealth and waved off their loans and become billioners..
one attacked the supreme court and other are saying straight forwerd No to supreme court on NRO ,are governing elite.

in this system no one hears for poor.
all have their own fight for power...common people is just a tool to make fool..they spend their days and nights in lines for wheat and suger..
rather giving insentives , federal Govt is open in corruption and looting countrey,,,while punjab Govt and mian sahiban have stick in his hand just like hawaldaar of army and he says do work from sun rise to sunset and for eating you have nothing...
in other words do work 24 hrs but with out any overtime and right...

some time he is against the teachers ,,some time against the doctors but
may i ask that u are spending only 1 % on education and health ..in this what you demand from them .
ist increase the budget and give them insentive ...provide them relief and give the status as they have overseas like uk,usa and then check ,,wether they do good or bad..
our media is very free now
but may i ask that media person who has check on every field,,,
can they have well qualification to do that....
what is the qualification of media person who reports and having check and balance on every one >>????
they openly black mail ..
in keeping all this in view...i am not seeing the bright future of pakistan ..
we do not correct the grass root ...rather we always want short cut solution of every problem which always fail...

Jamal replied on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 07:05 PM PST 

Let's get honest Pakistan never had martial law in any sense but once when Bhutto was ruling.
We always had govt. ruled by civilians. Nawaz Sharif, Bhutto him self are some shining examples.
When army take control they always call for referendum, where as election of P.M. and President via votes of elected members is simple result of horse trading.
Imagine in recent Presidential elections, members of senate and national assembly sold the photo of their vote for 10-20 million rupees each, which they took while casting vote with their mobile phones.

Now analyzing the democracy of Pakistan;
I'm aged 40 but have never casted single vote in my entire life, simply because i'm not a registered voter. Although i made my Lahore domicile at the age of 16, nid card around same time and my nadra card almost 7 years ago and now i owns overseas nadra card, i made my passport at the age of 25 and todate renewed it 7 times. I have school, college and university degrees from Lahore, I’m also registered with overseas manpower.
Point is i'm a duly registered Pakistani but still can’t cast vote simply because of system.
Once, during 90’s i even went to election commission office but left the process because of undue hassle and waste of days. In the beginning I didn’t even knew where is election commission office. That was the time when Pakistan was not familiar with internet concept which is only introduced in Pakistan by previous govt.
At the same time most of people in neighborhood have their votes simply because the political parties got it done because they are sure that those votes will be casted to them.
Even those have registered vote, who don't have nadra card! or let say are 'khana badosh' even those have registered votes who are foreign nationals and it includes most of assembly and senate members.
This is the true face of Pakistan’s democracy. Our system is inherently undemocratic.

USA replied on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 01:21 AM PST 

Atiq raja is harami ppp jayala

atiq raja. replied on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 02:29 AM PST 

yes very easy to say USA, thmary jasy loog or mumhary jasy humakran.

Dr. A. Khan replied on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 06:58 PM PST 

Dear all !
My request to all of you is that please dont put blame to each other.
We should first of all behave as a decent human being and try to accomodate all opinions.
Needless to say that I have always a very good experience of Atiq Raja and I used to follow his valuable comments about realestate.
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