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Thursday, June 30, 2016 04:06 AM 

For everyone to understand taxes can someone please roughly calculate the cost of selling 5 marla prism plot at around 35 lac with new government taxes.
Thanks in advance

Ahmad786® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 05:55 AM 

Roughly 12% will be paid by seller (4 lacks approx) and 6 percent by seller (2 lacks). In one transaction government wins 6 lacks out of 35 lacks...wow what a business !!!

Ahmad786® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 05:56 AM 

Sorry 6 percent by buyer. I typed wrongly

Arif M® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 06:24 AM 

That is almost 18 lac tax on deal of 1 crore. Ahmad have you included Banking transaction tax in this ? Not to forget taxed imposed by punjab Govt on empty plot holding.

MALIK® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 06:35 AM 

Does 6 lac include everything like stamp duty ,advance income tax ,cvt etc etc

Ahmad786® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 07:23 AM 

Wait for complete information in July. This is just an estimate based on current information and rumors. Ideally CGT is on profits only and not on actual price. I hope Government will implement CGT in its true sense and then it wont be that troubling.

Adnan_Ali® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 08:23 AM 

Malik, currently till 30th June all taxes CVT/StampDuty/Membership Fee were supposed to be paid by Buyer and Seller does not pay any thing except soceity old dues if any.

Now after this Capital Gain Tax 10% on net profit (if you bought the plot in 28 lakh and you can provide document bank statement/PO copy to SBP and make prove that you bought the plot in 28 lakhs, so your profit is 7 Lakhs (35 - 28), in this case you would be asked to pay 70,0000 PKR as Capital Gain Tax.

A lot of people are making confuse to others by saying that seller have to pay 10% of Actual value, they are wrong.

Of Course this CGT is in case of Profit, if you are selling in loss, no CGT applies. And in case of Selling after 5 years, no CGT will applies.

In my opinion, it discourages to local short term small investors/dealers who are running their kitchen with their savings and profits, Dealers will keep continuing Biana/Open File System but their commission based income will reduced a lot due to less number of transactions (If some dealer previously was doing 100 deals a week, now he will hardly get 10-20 deals a week).

Since Foreign Investors are mostly long term who mostly do keep shuffle their assets in Real Estate by taking in/out from some certain society/phases but do not take out money from this Real Estate market. now they will stick to their portfolio for some longer period.

Summary, its loss-loss scheme for all players (Govt will get less Tax amount in volume, less foreign remittances for Govt, dealers will get less deals/less commission, New Buyers will move to Gold (no tax , no documentation, no white money/black money issue) instead of RealEstate and Seller (if not needy) will sleep until those stupids who made this policy/law comes out of his sleep and undo this foolish step.

KS® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:06 AM 

Following are the rate changes in addition to valuation change

Changes in WH Tax and CGT
Buyer:
WH Tax
Filer old 1% New 2%
Non Filer old 2% New 4%
Seller:
WH Tax
Filer old 0.5% New 1%
Non Filer old 1% New 2%
CG Tax
old 10% sale within one year
old 2% sale witin 2 years
old 0% sale after 5 years

New 10% slae withiin 5 years

Ahmad786® replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:08 AM 

KS you forgot to mention that earlier CGT was on DC value and now Actual price means 5 times CG

Asad-Ali replied on Thursday, June 30, 2016 02:05 PM 

@Ahmed786 CGT is on Profit and WHT is on sale value (early it was DC Rate , but now actual value will be determind)

Example in some scheme where DC Rate was 40 Lakh per canal and actual worth of plot was 65 Lakhs per canal.

After this new rule, 2% WHT of 65 lakh for non-filer
10% of Profit (if seller boughts in 50 lakh and earned 15 lakh profit) so it will be 10% of 15 Lakh plus 2% of 65 Lakh which is equal to 1.5 + 1.3 = 2.8 lakhs according to current formula.

Idealy CGT should be on same ratio like mutual fund/stock exchange shares (2% on net profit if encashed before 2 years) and DC Rate formula is better , but DC Rate should be keep revised monthly basis (Average Plot price should be mentioned in DC Rate and 10% plus in case of best location(facingpark/corner/boulevard) and 10% minus in case of bad location, Otherwise FBR/SBP officers will take bribe and will under evaluate the price like these were being done in rural areas till few years back.
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