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Second phase of recession,

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Tuesday, October 18, 2016 06:17 PM 

Second phase of recession is about to come. We can see further drop in property prices.

User_6006® replied on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 07:12 PM 

where is phase 1 located ?? :P

Fed up replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 02:28 AM 

Aay tinday lay gobbi lay aalo lay PROPERTY laayyy.....
Hope now Ahmad Hassan sb. would find some vicious satisfaction.

Observer replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 02:49 AM 

feb up bhai Ahmad sahib ki purani aadat hai. khud en sahib k pass hai kuch nahe dorson ki life saving par kahtey hain dob rahe hai aur chaskay laitay hain. leave it

Ejaz_EJ® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 03:15 AM 

Ahmed Bhai, be optimistic always, and please avoid such a pessimistic approach.
you will see a good returns on property by starting from next month and onwards.

Aseem replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 03:28 AM 

We may like it or not, today's dawn substantiates this point...read news regarding rupee free fall against $ due to tax on 'real estate'.....

HassanHC® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 03:31 AM 

Sir Jee relax phase 1 is any ways not bad and ppl getting use to it. Few months dull patch is common after every major push

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 04:38 AM 

At least we see some activity on this blog, although am target for all. But reality can't be changed. This is true one has cash ready will take advantage from this phase. Please look at file prices, falling on daily basis. If this is not recession, come out & buy because you ve something while I don't ve :)

Nabeel® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 04:53 AM 

Ahmed bhai can you share some numbers or examples of how much property prices dropped from last 4 months /Eid Ul Fitr?

Arif M® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 05:02 AM 

Balance of optimism and pessimism is key for any good analysis. As they say hope for best but prepare for worst.

Ahmad sb. can you share the logic behind your analysis. Any updated info about market activity will be helpful for all of us.

Adnan_Ali® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 07:44 AM 

If you are talking about Global Recession expected due to "Donald Trump if elected" or if its about Pakistan (political instability). PSX Stock Index is already experiencing this.

Local Property Market is already experiencing slowdown/correction and no one is declining this (its Fact) so lets see what outcomes after few week.

Khurram11® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 08:03 AM 

@Ahmad Hassan: which file prices are falling on daily basis? Plot prices may have decreased a little bit, but to claim that 'file' prices are 'falling' daily is very dramatic. If you just check LRE website file prices 4 months ago, almost all are at the same price! Infact DHA Gujranwala file prices increased during this period.

Well Done replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 09:15 AM 

Dear Friends,

Please don't blame Ahmad Hassan Sb. He is only doing his job, and gets paid for spreading Pessimism. Well Done Ahmad Hassan Sb!

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 09:52 AM 

My role is 0 in current situation. This has been set by default. None of market/business can grow without facing recessions. Even traffic on this Web page has been reduced. Worst is about to come but all will pass INSHALLAH.

test replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:59 AM 

There is a lot of sense in what AH is saying..I have been in touch with dozens of fellows here in Muscat and vast majority of them want to sell property, few buyers are waiting for the right time to make a deal. Public is in deep waiting mode due to short fall in remittances and expected unfortunate rupee devaluation.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 01:01 PM 

Prisim 1K was 78 now 75
Prisim 10M was 59 now 53
Prisim 5M was 34 now 31
Town 5M was 46 now 36 (I picked one at 35 few days before)
Rahbar Commercial was 230 now 160
Park View Commercial was 330 now 230
10 to 15% prisim plot prices has dropped.
DHA daily transactions reduced from 200 to 10 now.

Zeeq® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 01:30 PM 

I am partially agree with AHMAD HASSAN@ Statement. Market can't be controlled through wishes.
Life is full of Ups and Downs...so is market. But remember one thing..
Long term investor always WIN ...

User_PK9549® replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 02:32 PM 

Any one who wants to buy cheap property can contact Ahmed Hassan. Ahmad Hassan you can earn handsome amount in this recession if you can help people to find cheap property. The offers I get for my plots are more than I use to get before your first phase of recession. Hopefully your second phase of recession would earn me few lacks more now :P

ahmad hassan (Positive) replied on Wednesday, October 19, 2016 06:20 PM 

Ahmad Hassan is Dil Jala, a negtive person, lena daina kuch veee nai aweee da expert....

CuriousInvestor replied on Thursday, October 20, 2016 02:52 AM 

Asa,

I just want to request that we all refrain from the personal attacks going on in this thread. Just because there is a difference in opinion doesn't mean we should degrade one another. If you do that, then what is the use of a DISCUSSION forum? Respect each other and yourself enough to not partake in such acts.

Rana Mujahid replied on Thursday, October 20, 2016 06:11 AM 

One should not attack anyone for his personal opinions, had these been genuine opinions. The reason for attacks is the deliberately misleading comments.

Whosoever regularly visits this forum can easily judge that Mr. Ahmad Hassan is not an investor himself, but just an agent of someone who is assigned the task of spreading negativity in the market.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Thursday, October 20, 2016 09:02 AM 

Dear Rana, am not the one who launched ID, bring FBR in action mode & put market in correction mode. Prices are going down & down. In fact such dips cause market more strong. No one can earn if market always go up. Train must stop at stations & let others to join the journey. It's a quite logical. Yes I will call it second phase because 50% of my coleagues lost job this month. All were investors & sending remitance to Pakistan. There is nothing negative hidden. I am really sorry if someone changed mind to buy due to my comments & hurts to short term investors as they are in try to sell & grab cheap deals.

Muhammad Asif® replied on Thursday, October 20, 2016 10:32 AM 

@Ahmed Hassan sb, Agree with you. Also a big dent of GCC situation is still in pipeline. It could be a worst if happens.

http://www.argaam.com/en/article/articledetail/id/449687

Nabeel® replied on Thursday, October 20, 2016 10:49 AM 

To be honest till today price drops have not been very significant, many on hold, some fallen. Only activity has reduced.

Bahria Orchard 10 Marla prices dropped by 8.5% in September alone as per Zameen.com

CMY Sb. mentioned "many lakhs" reduction in Prism.

I have spoken to a few renowned dealers and they have mentioned some reduction in 1 kanal prices in Phase 7, and a negative outlook for Prism over the short-term with recommendations to hold buying.

The Middle East factor is looking increasingly bad for 2017, a few friends have gotten laid off recently and the outlook for 2017 is worse than 2016. Oil agreements look increasingly difficult to happen, and in its absence Shale Oil continues to affect the create the new equilibrium.

I hope people do not blindly start plugging their money into Pakistan stock exchange seeing its dizzying performance since last year : Everyone cannot be a winner, and when it crashes it will be ugly.

Economists are saying it is a time of "wealth preservation".

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Friday, October 21, 2016 08:24 AM 

@Ahmad Hassan Sb. DHA 9 Town 5 marla at 35 is an excellent pick, can you tell which block and nearby location!
Thank you very much!

User_19953® replied on Sunday, October 23, 2016 07:58 AM 

Dear Ahmed Shahib,

please if you can share details from of DHA town 5M and from where you have purchased it.


Regards
Khuram
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