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   seeking for justic
Monday, July 3, 2006 10:12 AM 
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Dears,
I want to know that who has got plot, can you reply.


regards
seeking justic
Haroon replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 10:31 AM 

I am one of the lucky ones who is included in the list of sccessfull s
Khalid Masood replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 11:27 AM 

What you want to know and why?

Do you think people are your servants that they will come on this call.

Have some sense - strike some balance - take and cold drink - go to sleep.

Do not invest in DHA next time. I will feel much please once looser people like you are not there to create mess and confusion.
jami\\ replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 11:37 AM 

i have got it 7/z/485
Just a common Man. replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 11:39 AM 

Khalid saab take a chill pill, severe anxiety and stress are very dangerous for health, a friend.
Khalid Masood replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 11:52 AM 

I have no stress but you seems to be under strain. And some of you who, after not finding their names in ballot list, are abusing Pak Army.

Who told your to apply for that..........Your Greed.......
SGA replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 11:57 AM 

Dear Jami

there is no plot 7/z/485 check and thell every one
hussain replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 12:14 PM 

This Khalid Masood is crazy or what?I ask you question Mr.Khalid who pay for you and your others felllow? We who you say bloody civilians.You should have respect for all pakistanis Ok.
Khalid Masood replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 12:41 PM 

Respect is at reciprocal basis.

If you want to be respected than please respect others.
Khalid Masood replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 12:54 PM 

Dear Mr. Zafar

thanks for accepting fact about these losers.

you have lived abraod so you are not aware of many facts. Do not be a victim of propaganda. Pakistan Army love Pakistan and Pakistanis. No one is doing any brutal activity in Balochistan. They have yet to show a single body so far and only they showed were fake pics of dead bodies on the net.

You have no idea what Indian Army is doing in Kashmir.

Isolated incidents of Bengal cannot become collective crime of entire Pakistan Army.

We are from you and we collectively are Pakistanis.
Pakistani replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 12:58 PM 

Calling civilians 'bloody'?? This clown can only be from corrupt army, Is his Pop and Mom included in the list of civilians??
Shahid Rasul replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 01:01 PM 

Whatever Zafar is talking about is not in line with this forum contents. His post should be deleted and he should be banned.
Pakistani replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 01:06 PM 

What respect was enjoyed by the Great Pak army on reciprocal basis in 1971 East Pakistan war. A shoe thrashing was organised and filmed, these people are once again heading towards similar destination.
If any army wala misbehaves on this forum now onwards, I can assure his stripping right here on this website.
Khalid Masood replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 01:13 PM 

Where did I say BLOODY civilian ? where did you read that.

I did say bloody to a fake software engineer. that is personal thiong to him who was feeding wrong information.

I know manners and I can never say that. I do not abuse people collectively as most of your post abuses to WHOLE ARMY..........
Zafar replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 01:40 PM 

Dear Mr. Masood,
Maybe I was unduly harsh in my post, and its probably because of another person's post who claimed to be an army man. He showed contempt, used extremely foul language towards "civilians"--the people who foot his bill. I am one of those people who pay USA taxes as well as Pakistan taxes(so I foot Pakistani ARMY's bill twice ;-) ).We certainly can't tar (our rather large ARMY) with the same brush. There are definitely good people in the army, and definitely people who have sacrificed themselves and died for Pakistan.
I do think that Pakistani ARMY of 2006, is unduly mercenary, get-quick-rich etc., more interested in maximizing wealth rather than doing its duty. However, its a broad discussion and its outside the focus of this forum. I would like to apologize for my harsh comments...we can't blame individuals for collective, systemic, institutional problems.
Regards,
-Zafar
choudhry replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 02:09 PM 

mr zafar...just a querry is your full name zafar bugti?
choudhry replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 02:12 PM 

this was in regard to mr zafar's earlier post. i did not read his second post before posting
s.a.malik uk replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 02:28 PM 

khalid masood,
left right left and now
about turn,
Hassan replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 03:15 PM 

I think the persons who are bad-mputhing the Army are Indian agents because that is exactly what happened in East Pakistan. The Indian agents submerged with the local populace did nasty things and blamed it on the Pakistan Army, which in turn fueled the emotions of the public against the army and that is the ONLY reason why our army lost in 71----because the army was fighting at 2 fronts;against the Indians and then against their own population who had turned against them! This is exactly what some pathetic jerks are trying to do in this forum---trying to fuel emotions of naive people whose lottery did not hit jackpot and they lost ONLY 5000/-. Let's be rational here and not be led by these bunch of traitors amongst us. I am a proud pakistani with no relations in the Army and I find it extremely disturbing that we start bad-mouthing our own brothers in the Army. What Mr. Zafar has quoted in his early post regarding 71 incidents is absolutely bull#@*%!. I have studied history in detail and all I can say is that he is one person who lives abroad and finds it fashionable to copy the U.S. system onto the Pakistani system. Mr. Zafar, you must have also noticed that recently all top appointment, including the CIA chief and the NSA chief are all Army men. When you have to face the adversary 24/7, I guess it becomes a compulsion that such decisions have to be made. Let me also remind you that it was the Army chief who forced Mr. Nawaz Sharif (then Priome Minister) to affect the Nuclear blasts in May 1998, otherwise the Indian PM had started addressing our PM with insulting remarks and Mr. Nawaz Sharif was comfortable with that.
Whew, enough of this discussion. I just wanted all you guys to know that we stand strong as a nation if we are ONE, but if we start tearing at each others throats just because we did not get a plot in DHA is absolutely unacceptable. And S.A. Malik from UK, YOU are the one who has turned about.
Zaidi replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 03:26 PM 

Bravo Mr. Hassan. I agree with you 100%. We must get our act together and behave responsibly otherwise our 4 provinces would turn into 4 countries and that's when we'd realize the error of our ways but then it would be too late!
Khalid L replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 03:39 PM 

khalid paa ji plz tell me why u ppl come im Govt??This happend not in India.why u ppl doing busness in pakistan.Its not ur duty why no body has right to ask Army?? paa ji app log agher ham me se hen then why we cant ask from u............or haan app log pakistani hen tu ham bi pakistan he pakistan is not just for Army,Army is for pakistan. so plz ye kheel band karen app log
tzk replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 03:41 PM 

Chaudhri: you might be a chaudhri because you inherited some land, I hope u had inherit manners and respect. Not all balouchs or even bugtis are bad like not all chaudhris are bad. A chaudhri might be worse than a 'kammi'
Ahmad (B) replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 05:48 PM 

Dear Zafar Sb., I think the reasons for the fall of Dhaka are complex. Qurat-ul-Ain Haider in her novel "Aag ka darya", which was published in 1959, takes us through some rural parts of East Bengal set in 1954. She describes how rural Bengalis felt disparaged by the government officials from West Pakistan who were posted in those areas. Therein she makes a prophetic prediction that East Bengal will separate from Pakistan.

My father served in Dhaka as a civil servant from 1958 onwards for about 3 years. He recounts no enmity between Bengalis and West Pakistanis.
PF replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 06:48 PM 

Dear CMY

I hope u r silently observing these RAW/ KHAD agents who are tarnishing the image of PAK ARMY through your web site on the plea of loosing Rs 5000 to DHA. They are misusing this facility which you have dedicated only for real estate and not for this purpose. Plz look into the matter. As far as the recent ballot is concerned even the military people who had applied in thousands against only 1500 plots,have also lost Rs 5000 each. Out of 2000 plots 25% quota was given to civilian brothers out of own quota of army personnel. This amounts to giving own share to civilian brothers by the army individuals.If we calculate, each category A to J(total 10) meant for army personnel had roughly 150 plots and thousands in number applied against their respective category. Not a single army loser including the retired, has shown his annoyance sofar since he considers it to be his luck. On the other hand some people like above are making unnecessary propoaganda against army and the benefit of this is being enjoyed by the Indian Agents. Therefore plz take necessary steps against such people who are using ur website as their plateform for such poisionus propaganda.You have the means of identifying such individuals otherwise the dedicated technicians of “Mr smart4u” may also solve the problem. Thanks
choudhry replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 06:49 PM 

tzk every one born legally inherits some thing. havent you. plz dont get personal
Khalid Masood replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 07:03 PM 

Mr. Hassan

Many Thanks for speaking truth.

Mr. Khalid L

You asked why army take over after couple of years in Pakistan and that does not happen in India.

Dear, reason is simple. Our politicians are not as mature as Indians. In Pakistan we do not accept defeat may it be for politician in elections or for people like you in DHA Ballotting !!
We blame other immediately that they have mal-practised without any inquiry or proof. Same is visible in this page about DHA ballotting.

Once a part loses elsection, its leaders goes on GHQ gate and start begging Army Chief to topple sitting govenment. That does not HAPPEN in India. They accept defeat and look for next time.

Once politician themsleves call Army for intervention then why to blame Army. Have you seen the musical chair of PPP and PML-N after Zia till President Musharraf took over ?

Fact is we have not got rid of UNIONIST PARTY of Khyzer Hayat Tiwana till now. Their generations have occupied places in all political parties. In India, Nehru being wise man terminated all Jagirs and Nawabs. So people in India are liberated and people of Pakistan are still slaves of Sardars, Choudaries, Rajas, Raees and Syeds........

If you like System of India about Army, Please implement Indian model for Politicians and for feudal lords as well

Allah may save Pakistan.
s.a.malik uk replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 07:06 PM 

mr.hassan,check this out
lost in 1965
lost in 1971
siachin 1984
kargal
they r only good for killing pakistani people,they r not protecting the country they r running the dha,hospitals factories,banks ,do i need to go on,this army of pakistan is a hired guns of usa,i think this is enough we better talk abt real estate instead of praisig pak army.
choudhry replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 07:20 PM 

this is very unfair and language of indians. only war we only lost was 71. and i say we because we lost as a nation and we must strive to put right what has gone wrong.indira said that they have settled the score of past 1000 years.well now we should make new score for next one thousand.
guys this is a property forum. please go to a military forum to discuss politics. stick to topic in hand
Khalid Masood replied on Monday, July 3, 2006 07:28 PM 

Armies do not lose war, nations lose wars.

Pak Army was defeated in 1971 once politician and other segemetns of society made the situation so worse that army of angels could have restored the situation.

SA Malik UK forgot the annihilation of Soviet Union under the able guidance and control of Pak Army where a Super Power was not only defeated but was disintigrated.

Kargil was lost due to stupidity of Nawaz Sharif once he assured Indians that Pak will not attack from any other place. This message eased indians and they moved all artillery in Kargil Area and butchered few odd Mujahids sitting on each hill top.

Pak Army never killed own people. There is nothing to show with Baloch Rebals except fake pics of dead bodies they showed on net.
Had Pak Army been triger happy then you would seen scores of dead in 1977 agitation , in Sind MRD agitation in 1984 and in Balochistan nowadays.

Please stop blamming your own Army for losing just 5000 rupees on baseless and false isssues.

Allah may save Pakistan from traitors
Pakistani replied on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 09:29 AM 

Irrelevant post deleted
Amjad replied on Tuesday, July 4, 2006 04:40 PM 

Please threat to Indian army not your countrymen civillians, they will break your jaws.This forum is for discussion and exchange views on realestate issues not threatning and abusing each other. I think all kind of political discussions should be stopped now.Last month i advised all of the viewers of this forum not to apply for plots in DHA but people did not take any notice and now they are crying, Let them cry, our brave army will never take a notice of this criticizm.
Your Dady replied on Saturday, October 15, 2011 06:58 PM 

@s.a malik uk
Bastards like u r the reason Pakistan is in this condition today. People like you stab knife in the back of your own brother and also traitors like you do business of Hundi, passports, marry some English begger to get red passport and so on. Now should i go on...
You better keep your views off Pakistan, you dont even deserve to take name of Pakistan on your bloody mouth.
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