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Thursday, February 28, 2008 02:14 PM 

How does one insulate a home that is just made of cement blocks? There is air conditioning in the bedroom, but the room never cools. I think it is because there is not proper insulation.

Can can one repair this problem after the home is built?

Ali - Doha replied on Thursday, February 28, 2008 03:21 PM 

Yes this is very easy if you are thinking this heating is effecting. from roof.
Lay one layer of Insulation Sheet 5 cm thick density if possible 30 Km/m³(also called Thermopore / polystyrene), then cover by Cement Screed 5 cm thick for protection of insulation sheet or you can lay Cement tiles fixed by thick cement mortar.
You can also increased effecency of cooling by replaciong of Windows by Double, Solar reflective glass windows.

Hasssan replied on Thursday, February 28, 2008 04:21 PM 

Is this applied to the inside wall/roof or on the outside of the house?

What is the approximate price to have this done by a professional?

Thanks

Naveed Yaseen replied on Friday, February 29, 2008 02:58 AM 

You may consider options like following (sorted by value-vs-cost in my opinion).

• Light color of sunwards surfaces (especially roof). It doesn't have to be very fancy. Any coating with light color and matte finish (unlike gloss finish). Just plain old lime whitewash is good (and perhaps better than most commercial paints for exterior). However the pure cement layer we often put on our roofs doesn’t hold whitewash well, so may have to prepare surface for a bit more porosity.

Importance of this point alone cannot be overstated. Keep in mind the sunlight has very intense energy at around 1 kilowatt per square meter, which may sum up to tens of kilowatts of additional heat-load for a house with dark sunwards surfaces. A lot of this heat-load can be avoided simply by, light color of surface!

• Radiant barrier for ceiling. It can be a simple fabric or plastic sheet with at least one side metallic shiny (like aluminum foil), stretched at a distance of 6 inch or more from ceiling.

• Light color blinds at windows.

• Proper sealing of windows and doors (especially at frame-flap interface).

• Conductive insulation at sunwards faces (by foam like materials described in earlier reply). External insulation performs better (by giving more thermal mass to interior), but internal is usually more durable.

• Insulative quality of windows. Double glazing is folds better than single. Un-tinted is better than tinted.

• Insulative quality of doors. Wood is better than metal. Hollow or porous is better than solid.

Sami Chaudhry replied on Friday, February 29, 2008 07:27 AM 

Hi-Grip membrane is available in Pak, about 3/16 inches thick, easily made adhesive at roof by heating with gas burner while its one side provided with thin silver white sheet to reflect back all sun rays, cost with material with application is about Rs. 60/SFT. I have used at my office roof with good result as 70 % heat source is roof.

Sami Chaudhry replied on Friday, February 29, 2008 07:41 PM 

The 'Hi-Grip' membrane is used at roof also to avoid water leakage as its inner side is like bitumen sheet while upper part is like very very thin sheet of silver metal, resembles like silvery paper always found in cigrate box. I want to learn more by valueable comments by Mr. Naveed Yaseen as I want to start my energy efficient dream house this year.

Observer replied on Friday, February 29, 2008 07:48 PM 

Exactly, for such reasons I say houses and buildings in Pakistan are not properly designed and engineered.
There is some thing called HVAC design which no Architect consider. Almost all houses design does not have HVAC plans. In addition many more items.
Climateof Lahore, Islamabad and Karachi is different but design of windows is almost same.
When a housing society is laid out, town planner totally ignores the aspect of sun orientation.
Our houses are not properly sealed, hence heating and cooloing is leeked through closed doors and windows. I have never seen proper window for outer walls in Pakistan.
Since walls are made of clay they are inherintly insulators but there are cracks and unnccessary openings and pipings.
Almost every bedroom have toilet and bath room, all drain wholes in there are reasons for leakes.
Their has been some solutions above about improving roofs insulation. I dispute that in Pakistan houses ever have roofs.
Pakistani concept of roof is very strange. Normally, what is built in Pakistan is a load bearing ceiling made of concrete and iron. Perhaps the idea behind is to use it as terrace or load bearing for gardening resons.
Roof is some thing on top of the ceiling and in between exist a space / air which it self is a great insulator.
Now comming to the materials of roof their are variety of materials or roofings used, metal panels, clay tiles, steel frames, wood frames etc. etc. but those are generally not load bearing but does not need any further insulations, other wise you loose the look of the house, If I may say a home for some one.
Look is one parameter to be considered for choosing roofing materials and colours.
Why the hell we put so much load on the foundations unneccessary, is their no architect who understand this basic thing.
Do you know every mortar have a compressive strength and with less load we can save the cost in terms of structure materials.
But first we do not do things in proper manner than we start spending time and money to fix the short comings.

khan from canada replied on Saturday, March 1, 2008 01:26 AM 

Great discussion. Thanks for sharing with all on this media. We need more of such discussions here.

Shahid, Melbourne replied on Saturday, March 1, 2008 08:25 AM 

Well very well versed discussion
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