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Friday, January 30, 2009 09:30 AM 

worth reading, for learned readers of this forum:

http://www.brasstacks.pk/pdf/BrassTacks_014_Dance_of_the_devil.pdf

Nexus replied on Friday, January 30, 2009 02:06 PM 

India was getting covert help from Bush administration to build laser wepons.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/AsiaandthePacific/wm2250.cfm

Please, note that the only purpose of indian wepons is to destroy Pakistan and kill all Muslims in sub-continent.

Please, also not forget friends of India in Pakistan.
ANP, PPP, BLA, TTP, PKMP, GA Sindh etc.

Why India need so hightech wepons to kill Pakistanis? Although it already owns a stock of military hardware which is 5 times more than as of Pakistan military.

yessss replied on Saturday, January 31, 2009 09:16 AM 

India is also getting much help from Izrael to defeat any and all Muslim nations, in this case Pakistan. Izrael says "The enemy of my enemy if my friend." Izrael is the biggest threat, in my opinion.

Izrael will NOT allow any Muslim nation to be become strong and powerful. They will do their dirty work through the US and India, and when needed, use their own military.

Jameel replied on Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:21 AM 

Please include Taliban also in friends of india, they are unknowingly getting Finacial aid from India and Israel, and destroying Pakistan more than India can in full scale war.

Hamid,Toronto replied on Saturday, January 31, 2009 01:55 PM 

Nexus, including PPP and ANP in the list is NOT fair. I think we cannot live in the world of hate. I would stronly suggest, when you post anyting for public, please please take it out your personal grudge from that post. In North America, there is slogan, "When you are at work then please leave your personal problem at the office entrance door. We can follow the same rule here. May be you are venting out your thought but you are not helping other.

As Jameel Bhai said, we are responsible for our own destruction. Even respected Qazi sahib said:
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May Allah give us courage and desire to choose the right path.

ok replied on Saturday, January 31, 2009 02:10 PM 

Hamid says we are responsible for our own destruction. Some things are out of the hands of the average person. Our leaders are responsible for our safety and/or destruction. That is why we have leaders - to protect us and guide us. I get angry when people start pointing fingers at the average guy saying the average guy on the street can stop Izrael / America / India. NO WAY !!!!!!

If the solution is in the hands of the average guy, let's tell Hamid in Toronto to come back to Pakistan and fix everything !!

Comments replied on Saturday, January 31, 2009 02:49 PM 

Hello,
I think by TTP means Tehrek Taliban Pakistan. responsible for the murder of BB, so their link with india is quite clear.
Such organisations disappear when their covert links got exposed.
They continue to exist but with new name.

Israel is definately supplying india with most sensitive technology from long time but again India remain the front line state against Pakistan.

Our best friend is China and Turkey and imagine the most foreigners who got killed or kidnapped in Pakistan are Chinese and Turkish.
By supporting those Mullahs and Iftikhar ch. where are we heading!

Hamid,Toronto replied on Saturday, January 31, 2009 03:31 PM 

Ok, as a Pakistani Citizen, this is our moral duty to condemn TTP agenda from our heart. As a common citizen we should support NGOs or Army who are trying re-building schools and doing some social work in that area.

I would like to give some examples here.
Taliban warn army off aid work
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp...009_pg1_10

“Mullah Fazal Allowed education for girls until grade 4th”

On this forum, if someone says that they are doing for some Islamic causes then GIVE ME A BREAK.
They cannot hijack our society or culture. These so called Mullahs cannot force us to adopt their own version of Islam.
Islamic parties should come out of the closet and play their part. Every Islamic party should follow Qazi Sahib Example
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jan2009-daily//col3.htm

At the same time, Media can also play an important role and should not highlight Mullah’ crimes with pride and honor.
As Comments said, they are not sparing our best friends. Poor Chinese are most vulnerable targets for them. Hat off for Chinese Govt, they are still supporting us politically and economically. Gomal Dam is a one of the examples they are still working on this project.

If we strong at home then we can face our enemies ( Isreal and India) with iron hands.

Hamid,Toronto replied on Saturday, January 31, 2009 03:58 PM 

As a Pakistani Citizen, we can also check few more things:

i) Watch your kids to make sure they are not IMPRESSED with Taliban’s propaganda
ii) Make sure we are not spreading Shia-Sunni poison in their innocent minds

In my opinion if we stay on democracy path then bad politician can be eliminated. There is no doubt that each party has some good and intellectual personalities.
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