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Sunday, March 1, 2009 02:49 PM 

I totally agree with my brother Azhar Syed from Manchester, which is nothing but all truth. I would like to add to his righteous observations, Pakistan a country where you find Muslims very less, where common social practices are even worst than the non believers. Where Even religion has been mutilated for money, politics etc.
A country about to be apart. Exact situation as of 1971. A country where its army does not know with whom they are fighting with criminals?talibans?RAW?america/Israel?any other country? Or collateral damage? Politicians the worst lot of ALL except Imran Khan(but lesser capabilities). Country where looters, murders, corrupts, manipulators, Judges, police, politicians, govt officers and serving generals say THEY have all the right to play with our country and lives, lives of our children and they will never be answerable.
We don’t need lawyers, Imran Khan, or a leader or Nawaz sharief son to save us but a nation which we are not.
If we were a nation or a little Muslim we all would have strength to end this tomorrow.
Dead people, zombies, heartless knowing well that soon Hindus and western effective forces would eventually disintegrate PAKISTAN giving lot of money and buying our generations. This is what QURAN/history of nations says.
A country where being shrief is a GALLI. Muslim Brother Azhar Syed I understand your grief(I have also faced hell for being patriotic Pakistani and still facing it) .MAY ALLAH give more strength to your and all Muslims hearts. AMEEN,
Often visit this site and write/comment seldom. But today compelled to support you after reading comments of another visitor who was calling your thoughts cancerous. I am sure and you are right they haven’t ever experienced being a patriotic Pakistani never experienced the cruelties and brutalities of our owners and system (their homes and lives never bombed, never been looted by police, never been subjected to years of manipulation by judges, threats by Qabza groups and body guards of politicians/ They would even say not to discuss situation of PAKISTAN on property forum as it would disturb their game of property property/peace of mind.
They will never come out of their sweet homes, even if you were standing right outside their houses, this is a gone nation.
Nations /people make great countries and nations break them. No Zardari, Nawaz sherief or other bad leader would do it, they are doing it themselves .Some time it appears to me
We have in abundance all the traits of doomed nations, most commonly (kum tolna aur faraoon ke zamane ka zulm).

Azher bhai if you ever come to Pakistan for some patriotic cause I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you. Sending/msging my cell number on your Email.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Usman Rawalpindi

EU replied on Sunday, March 1, 2009 09:43 PM 

Congress chief Sonia Gandhi on Sunday said the diplomatic pressure from New Delhi left Islamabad with no choice but to admit
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Diplomacy-forced-Pakistan-to-admit-2611-link-Sonia/articleshow/4209381.cms

Drone Attacks Inside Pakistan Will Continue, CIA Chief Says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/25/AR.html

Is govt. of Pakistan going to respond above claims?

aa replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 12:25 AM 

ok situation is bad
what r you guys doing about it...
trying to spread negative rumours...
praying from your dear hearts that kaffir forces walk over only viable muslim army.......while you sit safely in same countries with no social respect..... praying that pakistan would disintegrate....
aik baat yaad rakho

dushmanaan maryaan khushi na karyee,,sajna ve mar jaana....
aur
izzat ka aik din ..zilat ke 100 saloon say behtar hay...
i can only feel sory for you

TheReality replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 06:16 AM 

Dear 'aa' i dont get your point...... especially when u say "izzat ka aik din ..zilat ke 100 saloon say behtar hay...". well this is RIGHT and means that we all should not compromise with USA and have our own say.......BUT what is our own SAY?????? frankly speaking i only see TALIBAN who have their own SAY and they are fighting to implement it (does not matter if u like it or not)......but all rest of pakistanis have american SAY only.

anyhow i totally agree with brother Usman and Azhar. I came back to Pakistan from USA after studies with a hope to make some difference; but let me tell u that after working for years with some top and senior most government officials who can change financials of Pakistan and also with very common people on streets.... i have realized almost none of them is sincere with pakistan but for themselves only. i have lived and worked in karachi, lahore, islamabad and believe me every single person is corrupt. i have met several people who say they want to change the system but when i ask them to start from yourself ... they disappear. i have noticed that people dont mind injustice if they r being benefited.... but protest (by talking) only if injustice is not benfitting them.

after spending so many years in pakistan i am again planning to leave this country .... not to come back again.

Arzoo and friend replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 12:55 PM 

Mr eality read under below !!!
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Arzoo and friend replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 05:49 PM PST

All my friends! this is for your information that news paper mafia is helping corrupion in all governament departments (The way they are using is getting some proof from insider than they are calling that big man and used to start blakmailing.
This is hapen with me when i was in OGDCL (PAKISTAN)MR Khushnod Ali was in daily 'Khabrian" Me and my friend handed over him complet file of corruption done by G-Mananager with proof in 1990 .(Mr Khushnood Ali set deal with that General Manager and haded over this file to him I have sean this file with that guy .After that we started digging the fact and we came to know from news papers insider that 90% Crime reporter doing like that.
I am out side the contry since 1992 Some time i have sen Khushnood Ali as a Anker person of One TV channel.

I share this experience with you all of my friend to know the reality only. Kamran Lashari and others are Big lootrs With help of media

Azher syed replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 08:28 PM 

Dear Usman Bhai,
Whenever my heart bleeds it’s for Pakistan, I am sorry but I am not ashamed to admit that my family was never my priority, it was a common poor Pakistani to whom I was committed to serve. People on this forum will think I am mad for what I did whole of my life, just listening to my conscious. I was a high cadre officer but I did not do what most of the high ranking officer of Pakistan administration are doing. Every individual who is in the Government organisations has some targets in mind, I am sorry I was the lone guy who had no financial targets set during his entire service until the day I had to bid farewell to my dream country. It was with heavy heart, that I left my home land after I was chosen by the World Bank for a Ph.D. post-graduate Degree; having completed my degree I felt I was the lone reveller on the path of what I called serving the “poor creatures” of almighty Allah. I don’t want to drag you guys into my bitter experiences but would quote here briefly one or two examples..While I was at Karachi, I was going to see the Minister of the Department I was serving in, one person who I had seen couple of times at the Sindh Secretariat building gates, crossed my path, he had an application of his nephew for the grade 1 post (usually peons/chokidar) in his hand, this guy was from the rural areas of Sindh (Perhaps from the District of Larkana). What he said was”could you help my nephew in the name of God” I took this application with me and while I was getting some official papers signed by the minister X, I asked the Minister to mark it as “seen” and put his initials on it (Ministers do not appoint grade 1 employees) and I said I will issue his orders. Minister X stopped and asked me “who has recommended him? I said he is god sent, Ministers answer came, “he has brought discomfort to me”. On another occasion, some posts were advertised for the job of naib- qasid /qasid grade 1 posts in the news papers (although all those posts were already filled by the persons whose bio-data was sent along with their ID cards by the said Minister, he directed that salaries ofall these people should be sent to the Ministers residence). Dates of interviews were announced and on the specified date I was asked to interview the applicants. One of the applicants I was interviewing told me that he was Hafiz-e-Quran and had come from a far flung area of District Dadu after borrowing Rupees one Hundred from a relative; I could not control my emotions and tears rolled down my cheeks, I had to tell him that the truth is there are no vacancies; these are just fake interviews. This is just the tip of the iceberg, what goes at a higher level that would be impossible for the general public to know. One of the Ministers had called a meeting at a location in Karachi at 8.00 PM, when we turned up he was so drunk that he could not walk, the other minister was using a glass of stainless steel to pour cannabis drink from the thermos he kept all time with him. How the money was being looted I would not go into those details. Is this why Pakistan was created? The answer comes it was created for Muslims; I am asking the forum “are Muslims safe in Pakistan? They are not safe here; they are not safe in Palestine, yes right.... because of the Zionists in the neighbouring country? Then the big question is if there is no Zionist Government in Pakistan, why the Muslims are getting killed? Why are we asking the big brothers to stop the drone attacks on Pakistan soil and we are suggesting that they should supply us with the drones and we will do their job on our soil, where ever they will order will use drones as per their instructions (referring to Shah Ahmed Qureshi’s statement). Usman sahib, thanks for your kind words, its is very encouraging to see that at least some one from this forum has called me “MAD”. The email you referred, works both for yahoo and hot mail, but no capital words in the email address. Reagrds, God bless you.
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