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Appeal to all Pakstani brothers,

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   Ashraf
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 04:55 PM 
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This new wave of attack in Lahore shows our enemies whos aim is to destablize Pakistan are becoming weeker every day and now had came out to do act. I appeal to all feloow brothers who visit these sites to kindly show the following;
1) Unity 2) Stop abusing each others 3) Support our Govt (good or bad) .4) support our Police and Army.
5) Give a message to our enemies that we will not accept the defeat.6)Find the enemies which are from our community .7) stop blame games.
Pakistan Zindabad and Zindabad.Defeat for our enemies.
Ali3 replied on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 05:56 PM 

Ashraf, you are misleading the people. You are saying totally illogical things. Maybe you should appeal to our beloved Prophet (PBUH) that his sacrifice of Karballa was wasted, rhat Hazrat Imam Hussain (AS) should have supported yazid (good or bad) and his army and his police.

Remember, Pakistan is not something out of Quran! This whole world, whole planet is created by God! Islam is not only inside the mosque. I think Islam starts the moment you step out of the mosque!
Concerned replied on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 06:19 PM 

Ali3!

What is wrong with what Ashraf is appealing for? Please dont bring Mullah-ism into this discussion. All what we are suffering from today is caused by these uneducated maulvis/terrorists.

Think with your head and not ......
chacha replied on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 06:24 PM 

I think we should keep religion out of this ... close the madrassas or check them extensively.
Ali11 replied on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 06:27 PM 

@ Ali3

Ashraf is trying to say that "united we stand, divided we fall" & he is absolutely right. Its time, we stand together and i am sure that everyone has the same feeling.

Also agree with you Pakistan is not something out of Quran, I believe, forces who are trying to destablize Pakistan will suffer from its destability and if Pakistan's future is dark, so is our neighbors'.

May Allah forgive us and help us to act rightly and wisely.


Long Live Pakistan
Aamir replied on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 06:33 PM 

I agree with you.

1. I would request the visitors of this site try to understand the fact that dynamics of Terrorists/Guerrilla attack are such that only a little or no defence is available to against these tactics prevent the occurrence, no matter how qualitative or quantitative force is applied to. Therefore, bashing the security forces of Pakistan is not appropriate in larger interest of the country, especially on websites

2. I agree with many of you that there were security lapses but then if there had not been any,even then it was nearly impossible to prevent the occurrence, hence leading to the same conclusion, security lapses.

3. Therefore try to do as advised by Mr.Ashraf, instead of abusing and bashing.
yessss replied on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:35 PM 

CLOSE THE MADASSAS !!!!!!
CLOSE THE MADASSAS !!!!!!

Fantatic religious teachings, be they christian, muslim, or jewish, are dangerous !!!!!!!!!!!
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:20 AM 

@Ashraf

1) Unity ----- Ok this is required
2) 2) Stop abusing each others ----- No one is abusing each other but the government only
3) Support our Govt (good or bad) ----- I thought in deomcracy when someone goes wrong the people should correct him, also i can't support a proven hypocrite, u can its ur choice to have him. Also why should we support the government? did they support the students, other professionals, industrialists, farmers, or any poor? if they are not supporting us then why the hell we support them? infact we should kick this kabari's ass ASAP. & Rehman Malik should resign like indian defense minister did, but NOOO hypocrite is still on the seat.
4) support our Police and Army ----- yeah right, i guess u haven't seen how claimly those attackers left out of the scene while walking.. If they can't do what they are ment for then why the hell we support them? we all know how exactly those big names came into action (IG, SSP, etc) who don't provide training to the junior staff, yet let them die when these types of attacks happen
5) Give a message to our enemies that we will not accept the defeat.
----- don't worry when ever the moment comes all pakistani gets unitied against our enemies It is proven fact.
6)Find the enemies which are from our community . ---- yeah right, we all know where are our enemies (which is GOVERNMENT, Democracy, India, CIA, Masout, & their agents (BLA, TTP, MQM)etc)
7) stop blame game ---- 1st learn the difference between blame game & criticism, if u can't then stop behaving like this...
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:25 AM 

@yess

how many time u actually went to some Madrass? Do u know what happens in a Madrass? or u are also blind like other foreigners, who just behave like Madrass = Training Camp for the terrorists. Yes i agree if the terrorists means the Scholars of Islam, then Madrass = Training Camps for the terrorists.

@Concerned

Stop behaving like an illiterate Muslim. When someone speaks about Islam u call it Mullah-ism, if u can't handle Islam, then just change ur religion... get it?
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:40 AM 

@Chacha

i think u should be out of the religion i think. I have seen ur previous comments, i really feel pity on ur thoughts..
Advisor replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:50 AM 

@Waqar Latif
Little knowledge is not only dangerous for you but it may affect others as well. When you write something on this forum, please choose appropriate words, blind, change ur religion phrase are unacceptable on this educated forum. You are acting like a primary school teacher.

May Allah give you more wisdom and sense.
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:01 AM 

@Advisor

u didn't answer what exactly i said, but start pointing on me, so what you think about ur behavior?

Lastly, u don't need to worry about my knowledge or behavior, i am far more knowledgeable, literate, & foreseer then u.

& btw, atleast post something which i can answer. i am not accept some illiterate guy teaching me something, while not put my single point in front of him
Ali3 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 06:12 AM 

Well said, Mr. Waqar Latif.
Expat replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:58 AM 

Dear Waqar, There is a word for it 'netpicking' or 'nitpicking' please correct me and use the same for your 'Advisor'.
Concerned replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:29 AM 

@Waqar,

I am surprised that you just called me illiterate muslim when you have just started words war with everybody on this forum. I am sure you are one of those turban heads who have malaised our society and country. I hate people like you.

You are one stinky, uneducated mullah from bajour, I am sure. Go to hell!!!!!
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:34 AM 

@Concern

so u proven my point about "illiterate", while i meant only "illiterate Muslim" at that time:P

I don't wage war with everyone, other then only those who speaks against Islam. or Muslims, & i will continue doing this.

Just for ur information, i am double masters, (M.Phil) more educated then ur whole family (foreign returned). Yet, good enough learned muslim. Not a "Illiterate Muslim" like u, who thinks Dawah is Mullah-ism. while Quran is pretty clear in this. So far i am not a mullah, but would love to stand infront & u pray behind me. & I get the reward of ur as well as everyone praying behind me. & u only get the reward of only ur prayer.

But why u care? Mr. Illiterate Muslim, for u the only thing which matters is, this world, ur foreign kaffir lords, & Media.
Concerned replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:16 AM 

@Wicki :)

Now I am sure that you are not only from Bajour but also a child abuser in some madrassah.
JI replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 11:13 AM 

Bismillah Irrahma Nirrah Heem

La Houla Wa La Quwwata Illa Billah Alee Ul Azeem
JI replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 11:35 AM 

Mudrassah should teach people how to be good muslim as well as a doctor, engineer, perperty dealer, contractor, shopkeeepers etc,
Tell me any Imam who has announced in the Jummah Prayer "Please look into your soul, if you have cheated all week, told non-stop lies all week, no need to come to mosque next friday if you cannot mend your ways".
Azher Syed Manchester replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:05 PM 

BREAKING NEWS
According to the the criteria set by the Pakistan Census department:
Educated is some one who can read his name and write the spellings of his name correctly on paper.

No one on this forum not a single person can be reagarded as illietrate or uneducated.
cool down guys.
smile for this breaking news
Aamir replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:46 PM 

@Waqar

"If u get a chance to see the video when those attackers leaving the scene u will get surprised that they were not in hurry, doing everything claimly.."

This is called "Post-facta Analysis" of the situation; means its very easy to be intelligent after the event. I stand by my precept that there is no defence against a terrorist attack. No preemptive measure can prevent the act to take place, unless you know one or more of the "When", "Who", "How","Where". Can you or anybody provide info atleast one of the phrased word in the context of terrerist attack to prevent next occurrence in Pakistan?

The only way to prevent is to remove the underlying reasons of such an act.
Azher Syed, Manchester replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 01:38 PM 

Why blame madrassa? Has any agency built Primary, Nusery, or kinder Gartens, High Schools, or GCSE level or such fascilities where kids could start their schooling. None of us can answer these questions nor the establishment has done concrete work in this regard. We have failed to provide them ( I mean those people living in NWFP, Northern areas, Waziristan, Swat or where ever we are blaming the fault lies; We have been busy in gaining absolute power when ever we get a chance to win few seats here and there, then comes the horse trading, then we resort to Governor raj, we are happy to slaughter our own people to make the rest of the World happy in a show of solidirity against the Fake wars waged by others. How quickly we get carried away with the propaganda war against our intersts? this is not some thing hidden, we are quick each and every thing on islam, we don't see the that this is wrong doing on the part of some one, we should not blame Islam. If a army officer voilates the constitution, does it mean it is the fault of the army, no no it is the fault of the person, he should be held responsible for it. Let us broaden our vision and thinking.
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:16 PM 

@Concerned

i guess u found a person who abused u in ur childhood, that's why u r so much sure :P, No comments for u Looser..

@Aamir

Being a security person, i know we can't say that "we didn't know it could happen".. terrorists, robbers, thiefs don't alarm u before comming.. since this is our duty to analysis each situation, before anything can arise. We call it risk analysis, but these sifarishies only know just to put 3 cars (1 on the front, & 2 at the back) & close the roads then u are safe.

& also, i have said in many forums & saying here as well, that i can disintegrate RAW inside pakistan, as well suicide attacks. I just need 4 months in full power.
Advisor replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 04:20 AM 

@ Waqar Latif

Thanks but no thanks for your offer. You cannot control the people on this forum and you are talking about full power in Pakistan. I am 100% sure you do have some issues at home as well.
Look how many persons you bashed on this thread.
1) Concerned (i guess u found a person who abused u in ur childhood, that's why u r so much sure :P, No comments for u Looser)
2) @Chacha (i think u should be out of the religion. . Act like HeadMaster.
3)@yess (how many time u actually went to some Madrass? )
4)@Ashraf (which is GOVERNMENT, Democracy, India, CIA, Masout, & their agents (BLA, TTP, MQM)etc).
You are considering every single people is your enemy.

For sure you have some attitude problem. I would suggest you to take some behavioral change course and yes I would pay your tuition for this course.
Bro,you can express your thoughts very nice and politely if you want. There is no need for screaming and yelling.

Your well wisher and advisor with free suggestions.
Waqar Latif replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 06:02 AM 

@Advisor

Baby, i never asked for ur support so stop being behaving as over smart, Just learn some English, i said, I can do it, which means i am saying these Sifarishies don't know there Job Get it? or still need more explanation to this line?. & also my family & life is perfectly going fine, u don't need to worry about it. Now coming to bashing "Concerned". He initially attacked someone while saying something, if u can't go through whole thread then don't comment. Now coming to chacha, he is always being against Islam, so my comments were like that, & i never yeild on him, i only expressed my thought.

& yess, went against madrass without any reason, so i simply asked him "how many times u actually went to some madrass?" where is yelling or showing my anger?

I think u have some understanding problem, yes i went in aggressive mod only with Concerned, but i answered each & every his query. but he always went like not answering me, but only pointing... so in the end, i also went like that.. & why u are crying? u also behaved like pointing at me, do u also have some problem at ur home? or feeling complex?
Waqar Latif replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 06:13 AM 

Ohh missed this line..

4)@Ashraf (which is GOVERNMENT, Democracy, India, CIA, Masout, & their agents (BLA, TTP, MQM)etc).
You are considering every single people is your enemy.

So for u this is every single person. geat.. ur world only runs around these things...

For me only these are my enemies.. get it? which is ur whole world (Containing Every Single person)... & it is no where even closed to attack ashraf..
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