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Overseas pakistani Failed to show Courage,

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Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:26 PM 

My overseas brothers, money makes you coward.
Come to pakistan and live here.
Don't act like vultures.
Come, support lawyers and give some hope to the poor people of pakistan.
If you can't judge between righ and wrong.

Ask a 5 year old kid. He will be better unbiased judge.

Show some courage.

:1)
Pakitan zindabad.

ikhlas replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:30 PM 

support liars ???

why support stupid liars???

asim replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:46 PM 

You will join when the prey is dead.

is here anyone who can take initiative?

observer replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 02:23 PM 

ikhlas

you must change your name

Usher replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 03:22 PM 

Asim,

wht r u talking about? why overseas Pakistanis are coward?

u people living in Pakistan, have made life difficult for yourself and overseas pakistanis

corruption, dhokay bazi, jhoot are normal in Pakistan.

from the Airport, at shops, on the roads, u people r just ripping people off,

and then blame overseas pakistanis, why?

Observer replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 03:42 PM 

Living overseas doesnt rid you of all the vices mentioned. Similarly being in Pakistan doesnt mean you necessarily have all the evils. In short its a pointless discussion.

Usher replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 04:20 PM 

very true,

not sure why he started it, all the best/honest/honourable/educated people i have met, were from Pakistan

allah bless Pakistan and get rid of these evils

Expat replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 06:43 PM 

This why minimum voting age in Pakistan should be at least 30 years.
Any one below the education should have half vote.
A person who bring foreign excahnge to Pakistan at least $20K should be allowed two votes.
And if any minority brings same amount in Pakistan should be allowed 3 votes.
A person who take $30K should not be allowed to vote.

Expat replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 06:46 PM 

Correction; I meant:

Any one below the 10th grade of education should have half vote.
A person who take $30K out of Pakistan, should not be allowed to vote.

asim replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 07:32 PM 

i appretiate to do labour job outside the country but that doesn't make one a super human, everybody does that. Only pakistani national should be allowed to vote wether he's in or out.
brothers you guys dont have courage to speak!
You people just flew away and talk back negative.

Azher syed replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 09:16 PM 

oversease Pakistanis failed to show courage! in what respect?ASIM "what do you mean by this caption,When genius people like you and your calibre are inhabiting the vast country of Pakistan, You know and God knows one like you is enough for whole of Pakistan, you don’t need any more help from outside because “aik Machhli sarry talaab ko ganda ker detay hay”

asim replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 09:31 PM 

dont act like a crocodile and wait for the dead meat. come inside the talaab and show what you got.
anymore overseas??

Guest007 replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 09:34 PM 

Asim it appears that you are very emotional at this moment and lost your mind. Pakistan needs to send more labor and professionals abroad so they can remit money back to Pakistan. Do you have any idea one expat supports how many families or family members in Pakistan? Let’s stop this discussion.

Amjad replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 09:54 PM 

Asim i think you are really a stupid person, these are overseas pakistanis who send billions of dollars every year to their country and give good economical support to Pakistan and their families. What do you want more from them? For all of these problems your dictators army rulers are responsible.Before you write something first always think.

PK replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 01:13 AM 

IF THE VISA FOR COUNTRIES LIKE USA ARE OPEN ASIM AND SEVERAL OTHERS LIKE HIM WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO BOARD ON PLANES AND TAKE OFF.
OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS ARE REAL MEN THEY ARE NOT MAMAS COUCH POTATO.

WOH MARD HI KIYA JO JAIL OR PARDES NA KAAT SAKEY.

OVERSEAS PAKISTANI ARE REAL ASSETS SEE THE EXAMPLE OF CHINA THE STATE OF GONGZUHU DEVELOPED BY THEIR EXPATS.

IF OVERSEAS PAKISTANIS JUST STOP REMITTANCE FOR ONE MONTH THEN GHORA BJI HAZIR MEDAN BHI HAZIR.

My home replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 01:43 AM 

what Pakistan needs is to use its labor for its own building and its professionals for there own development.

Money makes all over seas Pakies go on the side of the west and to defend it. I have been to England and I am 19 years old. My family has made literally 10 times more money in Pakistan in 4 years then we did in 6.5 in London. So I just hope my over seas brothers can show courage and character and come back home for its batter meant and development and use the knowledge they have obtained from the west weather it be freedom, liberty, truth or any technical knowledge which they can use to make this country batter. I know Munafiqs who are leaving this country for England and the West just because they are greedy people, they are earning a good living here and have a car but they want to sell there sole for a few Pounds and the status of coming from England.

I hope people understand.

My home replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 01:52 AM 

I know things wont be easy and we will have to fight fight fight to improve this country but dosent our religion say that we have to stand up against oppression and injustice. But my overseas brothers say why should we come bake to risk our selves. So brothers what dose that make you?

Waqar Latif replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 03:38 AM 

@Asim & My home

no one leaves his country, home town just for funn, everyone has his own problems. I have been to UK, & i think most of the Oversea pakistanis are not living a luxery life like we are live here. But why they go, since what they earn seems like enough for them and there family. I saw many overseas who used to not to spend a single penny on him, just send money back to his family here in pakistan, & used to live worst life there. There are around 10% of pakistanis living abroad.. & the revenue they send to the country give a releaf to pakistan to get out of this trade defiset

Asim, can u offer 2 times low earning to any of the person to whom u r calling back? No, infact many pakistanis are getting jobless because of stupid political war between corrupt leaders. Yes, no doubt there is a hope of the people with IK, & NZ to recover us from this situation. But problem is, can a corrupt system will alow them? Also, u are calling overseas, how many pakistanis are helping CJs? not 0.0001 (Most of the successful darna could gather only 1000 persons) %, so there is no meaning to call overseas. Let them do there job!!!

@Usher

no pakistani wanted this, it is the corrupt system.. which has been given by previous leaders, that we are facing this!!

My home replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 04:13 AM 

Waqar only three things I can say to you, sacrifice sacrifice sacrifice. we all need to sacrifice for the good of our natiuon, thats what people dont seem to understand. All we do is to think of our selves, if we want batterment we need to sacrifice. I know there are many people a=who do manual labor inside our country and they want to go abrod to earn a little extra but even when they are over here they dont follow the rules of this countruy and dont follow the rules of Islam in whcih I think the most importent message is to not be surpressed by anyone else. I have talked to and known people from every walk of life starting from a Wasa worker to a supreme court Lawer, all of them have the same ideology in commen. The Wasa worker will not talk HAQ to his colouge because he's worried that his relations will be affected and the Lawyer will not talk about HAQ because the guy he's going to accuse to about a case is a mutual friend. Both these guys will and do crooked things every chance they get. The Raksha guy will ask for 3 times more fare form a passenger if it is raning just because the passenger Majboor.

These people don't know and dont want to know Sacrifice. Same goes for the over seas people. Do you think the Goras and Americans 200 years ago said lets go to India to the Mughal empior to earn money and send it back home to our family and kids no! they stayed in there own country and worked hard and then they came to trade as business men and heads of companies, not as workers. Please read the history of the Western world they have gone to Hell and back and after they realized there mistakes. Our people want every ting, they want religion and Bagarity at the same time, they want money and fame but dont want to work for it. They want to be respected in the world but they also want free hand outs from the world.

I know I am at a young age but I have seen this much in my life to realize that with out sacrifice come nothing. E.g, if you wana buy a plot and it is costing 2 million and right next to it is a corner one for which you know you will more profit then the market when you sell but it costs 25 lac. Now you can either buy the 2 mill one and get less profit or you can buy the 2.5 one but you have to sell your car in order to do so, What will you do. If you buy the 2 mill one you are lossing money and if you buy the 2.5 one you are lossing you Aram and Saqoon of a Ac car. But by sacrificing you own luxuary you are making cirtain that in the days to come you will have extra money with which you can buy an other car and also have spare moeny which you obtained due to the period you spent going on a motorcycle in the burning sun. This was a small example.

This is how a people, people and nations batter them selves.
Excuse me for the spelling I am getting late for College (smile)

My home replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 04:14 AM 

This is how a person, people and nations batter them selves.

eh replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 05:32 AM 

What is the purpose of all this discussion? Is it that all the Overseas Pakistanis should come back because you just think so?
You know the reality why most of the people are abroad? I did a diploma in Radio Electronics in 1973 and could not find a proper job for saveral years, therefore accepted a job as a clerk and then migrated to Saudi Arabia in 1983.

And you know how I got that job, In 1974 I paid RS 900/- to some agent of the then Railway Minister Attaullah for his signature. When I went to Railway Headquarter I found that there were thousands of applications signed by him some with Blue some with Red and some with Black inks. All of these were paid differently. We were asked to give a test and after the test we never heard about the result until 1976 Martial Law. Later I found a job in some Private firm.

When Government started giving CNG licences in 2001, Pakistan was in trouble about FOREX. I sent many applications from secretaries to the Chief Executive (through his web forum) that they should reserve this sector for the Overseas Pakistanis as it involve a major part of FOREX so that inspite of investing in Real Estate they should invest in the business, never got any response negative or positive. Tried my best to get a CNG licence but noway unless you pay or you have some other source.

OP's are sending around 6 Billions US$ yearly most of these are living thousands of KM's away from their families and homes miserably. I will not claim that we send money for Pakistan but for our families. After all this money is going to the FOREX of Pakistan. Because our families do not eat dollars in Pakistan they use Pak Rupees. When this money comes to our Banks and Market, you can see and judge what you local residents have done with this money? OP's did not took it to Dubai its all by the Locals. Therefore, Please don't drag us to your sins.

Our hearts beat with the tick tick of the clock in Pakistan,every minute every second Pakistan is in our heart and we are killing ourselves abroad because of the economic situation at home.

I have spent 25 years abroad and I am rewarded here with every year of my experience and if say, I would come back what will happen, where I find a job even 1-4th of my present salary.

I will pack tomorrow if you arrange a job for me only 1-4th of my present salary. Government has always fooled us, OPF is an example of it. They get a very handsome money for each and every person going abroad for his welfare, what welfare they have provided to the OPFs. OPF colleges, schools, housing societies are an example. In the name of OPF, the politicians, beaurocrates, ruling elite all have looted their billions of RS.

At home what you have done to our justice system? Political system? Defence Systems? Education System? Financial System? Health System? Terror, inhumanity, unrest, unjustice, what ever you can call good is not anywhere in our Country. Chief Justice of Pakistan is wondering for the justice and another Chief Justice is sitting shamelessly at his desk even after earning so much shame because of his daughter, believe me if it was me i would have suicided for the shame or to prove my innocence. Who did all this? we the expats living thousands of KMs away or you the locals enjoying all the benefits by looting plundering exploiting and whatever anybody can call.

So please look around and try to clean the mess you have created and then suggest anybody what to do, else it is non of your business.

asim replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 06:31 AM 

it is useless discusion for many but i am happy that i can conclude here after reading all above that 1 out of 11 people are ready to help and sacrify for others and have positive thinking. i am very proud of our young generation, just 19 years old and he's very talented. God will help you and i like your example, youre son of a good father.

ASK replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 09:16 AM 

Totally agree with the above 2 posts. If it was not for Overseas our country would have gine bankrupt and the economy would have crashed a long time ago. It is only due to the money being sent from Expats that Pakistan is still going and millions of families in Pakistan are living a decent life because of the sacrifice of living abroad by some of there relatives.

If today all the overseas Pakistanis were to come back, what will they do how will they earn ? The only thing they will do is create even more burden on our already over populated country. Human Resource is the only good export that we have in our country. If that is stopped then our country will cease to exist

concerned replied on Friday, March 6, 2009 09:04 PM 

We all have on thing in common and that is "We all are akistanis".

Doesn't matter where we live we all have the same Identity.

So we should share the responsiblities to build our "HOME LAND" stronger & better.

INSHA ALLAH

FOREIGN EXCHANGE replied on Saturday, March 7, 2009 04:44 AM 

OVERSEAS PAKISTANI's REMIT $ dollars to pAKISTAN, BECAUSE zardaRI IS WAITING TO TRANSFER FOREIGN EXCHANGE IN swis BANKS

Friend replied on Saturday, March 7, 2009 08:22 AM 

I think very much everything has said above. Let me just add one thing my dear brother asim you want me to come back where you idiot elected a Zaradari as your President. Think and think hard what I just said and this should cover everthing.

asim replied on Saturday, March 7, 2009 10:27 AM 

As i said, you need a dead animal. please wait, let us hunt him down.
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