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Thursday, March 19, 2009 05:08 PM 
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Is it true? To further de-stabilize Pakistan

Mr. Zadari (President of Pakistan) wants to restore the CJ as of Nov2nd position after the retirement of present CJ. As mentioned in local TV. To take the credit and to increase his creditability& honesty among locally and internationally. But somehow this information is disclosed to Mian brothers, who took the advantage.
Or.
It is planned by both the leadership?? Green buck is working on both ends
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It is game planned by out side??? To access the street power of Mian brothers in order to used against the present President beside NRO. Mians are presently out of power and cannot come back third time unless they become “YES” man. CJ is obliged. Threat already given by Governor Punjab to dissolve the Punjab Assemblies to further de-stabilized the government and State. PML (Q) tabled the new formula to resolve the Punjab issue. News week report about the extension of Throne attacks in Baluchistan. Increase of troops in Afghanistan. Who say NO to last two sentences.
Amjad replied on Thursday, March 19, 2009 06:06 PM 

Issue about their reinstatement is over. We are fed up now with CJ, Nawaz family, Zardari and media. Please discuss only on real estate matters.
Waqar Latif replied on Friday, March 20, 2009 03:56 AM 

@OP

1st of all if Zardari's plan was to restore the judge after the retirement of Dogar, then why he actually made promises like, i will restore in 48 hours, same day, 40 days? 2nd, if his plan was to restore the judges why he said "I haven't write any hadith which can be changed". If this was the plan of zardari, why actually he let to start this long march? Why he banned the media? why Ms clinton was just calling rawind & islamabad ? why Kiyani came to meet zardari & gillani for 4 days, even he was sure that zardari can handle thi? These all questions leads to, Zardari is a proven hypocrite (according to Islam)...

Basically what i heard is, kiyani given two option to chose, 1. restore judges or 2. Start packing up (as even said by US Army Chief, "kiyani gonna take over").. Also, now PPP want to put CJ into their credit, & try to recover they lost fame.. that's why they even try to change the order came from the court.. but still they left Salman taseer (drunker) for the shareef brothers..

Now comming to shareef's stand on this, well, they are corrupt no doubt it, but this time they stand on the principle, and managed to write a history, which no one can forget...

Now coming to outside, well, this is one proven fact that, they don't want pakistan to get stabilize, that's why they shown full confidence behind zardari.. But everyone is trying to get credit for this "1. Laywers, no doubt they work v hard, 2. PPP, they were totally against it, 3. US, who has nothing to do other then just call.. they even couldn't put pressure on zardari, yet they tried to get credit, 4. UK, I don't know why exactly they are trying to get credit.. but i saw their headlines as well..

but actually the credit goes to the 1. People of pakistan, who actually shown that they can fight for their rights, 2. Kiyani, who actually pressurized zardari tremendously and also didn't try to get power.. good going kiyani, 3. lawyers as i said, they worked v hard. 4. PML-N, yes of course they wanted CJ back so they can clear their case, but yes no doubt they worked v hard to gather more than half of million people on the roads. 5. Jamat-e-Islami, well, i must say the power they normally show on the roads, really make me thinking why they can't get the seats, i guess they normally boycott the election each time. 6. Tehrik-e-Insaf, well, he was also there.. 7. & last not the least Justice Hameed dogar, yes, he actually made the decision of disqualification of shareef's brothers, and made them so aggressive towards long march.. without his this decision, it wasn't possible to have a successful long march..
baloch replied on Friday, March 20, 2009 03:59 AM 

it was media war and we are fed up the bugti was killed in this cj time and he kept quite bugti made him judge
Waqar Latif replied on Friday, March 20, 2009 05:56 AM 

Mr. Baluch, have u ever been to the court, during ur life time? Judges are not mayor or government leaders, they are just Judges.. when something come in front of them then they can only take some action (on the basis of evidences), otherwise they can't simple take notice without any appeal done to them. Also, isn't Bugti order to baluchies to celebrate independence day on 15th Aug, while pakistan's independence day is on 14th, & india's us on 15th.. why exactly he said that? Also isn't same bughti, who invented BLA (Baluchistan Liberation Army), do u know the meaning of this? So, in eyes of pakistanis he was a traitor, and traitors don't have sympathy from the nation, or justice.

Now coming to ur baluch point of view of supporting bhugti, do u know how much government has paid to bhugti for the royalty of Sui Gas? it more then million ruppees, so now can u show me single peny which bhugti put for welfare of the baluchis? still u guyz give favor to him? why?

Ps: u write baloch, which which made me a suspicion u r an indian rather then a pakistan, so can't be a baluchi..

@CMy, can u post his IP address... So we know whether he is even a baluchi or not...
Rameez replied on Friday, March 20, 2009 11:06 AM 

@baloch

baloch are our brothers but their leaders didn't do justice to them,

i cannot believe that Bugti went to Cambridge and was still treating his people badly, his people were still sitting on the ground, they had no education, he has his own jail, was taking money from govt,

he was definitely a traitor
Advisor replied on Friday, March 20, 2009 12:15 PM 

@ Waqar
You should be head of Lalamusa primary school. Trust me you are not good for any educated forum.
Your advisor providing free services at your door steps.

@Baloch
There is no doubt that Bugti was not a good human being but may be good for Baloch cause. I thing we should bring him in negotiation table and discuss his concerns instead of killing him in cave.
This was another Musharaf unforgiveable mistake. Moving forward, yes, we should take Baloches in confident for any big project including Gawadar. I would recommend everybody before commenting on Baloch issue, you must read histroy of Balochistan province. Of course Emotional comments will hurt Pakistan's federation.
Pakistan first replied on Friday, March 20, 2009 08:40 PM 

Mr. Waqar Latif, Thanks for your comments.
You certainly have much clear thoughts as compare to those who are victim of media propaganda.
@Advisor: Bugti use to treat Balochs worst that slaves, most of BLA terrorists are those brainwashed children whose parents were killed by Bugti and children admitted in his BLArmy.
Our politicians are equally responsible who strengthened him by paying annual ransom of billions.
BTW, Musharraf will remain a nightmare for u Indian advisors.
He is the victorious soldier of Kargil, Khemkern, Chowinda battles.
Keep attacking him and invisible hand will keep saving him.
He is an asset and hero to the nation and we will keep his pictures in our hearts.
His classic Kargil maneuver has already become a curriculum for Indian army.
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