Pakistan's downward trajectory,

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Friday, May 15, 2009 06:00 AM 

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http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20090319

Waqar Latif replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 07:52 AM  Our pakistani government can make villan to a hero like A.Q.Khan, can kill thousand in lal masjid, south waziritan, swat and souroundings, Can increase taxes, just because of external pressue & their own pockets, what else we can expect from them.

buddy replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 08:56 AM  Dear Waqar, don't be confused and neither try to confuse others. It is very simple that enemy of Pakistan (India) have penetrated in our media, judiciary, research centers and political parties. Only, hinderence to enslave Pakistanis is Pakistan army. Just to clear your confusion, terrorists of lal masjid tried to destroy Pakistan's relationship with China and sent an untrue image of Pakistan in wider world. Wonder why? Lal masjid, mukhtar mai etc. were all engineered to toppel the reformist govt. of Pakistan. It is not simple to sacrifice your self for the sake of nation so sepearating AQKhan was a good job done. Don't you know India was the biggest benficiary of AQKhan's nuclear wall mart!

Paki replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 09:40 AM  Dear Buddy, You actually mean that Pak Army will not take orders from Pak Govt. We the people of Pakistan will make sure that this institution will come to its senses and start to realize that we the people of Pakistan is feeding Pak Army with our hard earned TAX money. 1) You are talking non-sense about Dr. A.Q. Khan. knowledge of a scientist is not a property of state any way. and all the scientists have spread their knowledge, American scientists leaked their knowledge to Russian scientists and Russian scientists provided their knowledge to Chinese scientists so what a big deal about the national hero of ours Dr A. Q. Khan. If you donot have the enough courage to stand up for your rights against USA than its not the problem of Dr. A.Q. Khan. 2) Pervaz Musharraf is responsible to order the attack on lal masjid and people on ground who carried out this attack should all be brought to Justice. 3) You probably belong to Army, thats why you are calling Pervaiz Musharraf GOVT a reformist GOVT. Its a joke actually, Democracy is the way forward, where four institions are indepandant of each other and keeping an eye on one another. a) Executive branch. b) Free media. c) Free Judiciary. d) Elected GOVT. a) Free media can bring any irregulation to public knowledge. b) Free Judiciary can take SOMO MOTO action on that information. c) Executive branch shall implement the orders from Judiciary. d) Elected GOVT shall keep in mind that their promises will haunt them in five years, people have strongh memory since media will highlight their short comings. Thanks you for Reading. Paki

Waqar Latif replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 10:06 AM  @Buddy 1st get out of your confusion then give suggestion to any one else. The nuclear deals were done by Pakistani government (Not A.Q.Khan Alone), his confession was just to satisfy our great great great Army Chief's Lords i.e. USA, & Russia. Secondly what i said for Lal Masjid or you made your own mind ur self? read again, i said "Killing of thousands in Lal Masjid", what it has to do with "Action of those Students?" Now let me tell u a story so you can get out of some confusion made in your mind by media. The total 5000 students were studying at Lal Masjid & when government started operation against Lal Masjid it was said that there are around 5000 Students in Lal Masjid. On the 2nd day of operation around 1200 girls came out and left the lal masjid & on the 6th day of operation a Deal was made between Lal Masjid officials and Army (which many media announce) and then v next night Army announced that they killed around 134 people in lal masjid operation and operation is finished, but no person were allowed to go inside. After 2 days people found many things were thrown into Islamabad sewerage system, and after some analysis they found it was sulphir thrown on the bodies. After a week the media persons were given permission to enter the lal masjid and the armors were shown to media people and everyone seen those armors (which were fresh and untouched). Now i let you to decide what actually happened in Lal masjid. From where a pressure could come to continue operation, where those 3500 women student disappeared (during operation). & also what would be the reaction of the people towards government whose daughter disappeared in Lal masjid. & lastly Mukhtara mai has nothing to do with external pressure topic. & also clarify me who is confused. U posted a article which says "On the external pressure Shahid Latif, were pushed down" Yet you think our only enemy is india.

buddy replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 10:26 AM  Paki! are you cursing Pakistanis with insulting names? I know what you indian drink and eat every morning! In today's Pakistan there is no govt. every politician choose his own people from top ot bottom and this is not form of govt. it is dictatorship what we have now. There is no country of the world where we have freedom. Infact, people of west are enslaved by some hawks through media and same formulae is being applied on Pakistanis. In every political rule we witness surfacing of fake National ID cards and this is all about your democracy. You spoke persons of democracy does not even know the name of your ministers! which are being replaced by unelected and uneducated musheers! @ Waqar, To kill thousands you need to fit millions in the said mosque? The boss of lal mosque was captured alive (in burqa) and he fialed to give thousand names! A.Q.Khan confesed for some one who work for Russia US!!!! and what does this made him?

Waqar Latif replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 11:30 AM  Lal Mosque was captured alive? & Also if don't know about something then dont speak yup. You are totally a ignorant person who even don't know Lal Masjid had one madrasa "Jamia Hafsa" with 4 story building for around 12 kanal plot. Pata nahin kahan se a jattay hain...It had 5000+ Register student (who were living there as well) making it 1st largest Islamic Madrass in 2004 which used to give Post Graduate Degrees. A.Q.Khan confused for pakistan get it or you have some mental problem? I already mentioned a statement which i my self heard live when Musharaf was getting questioning about A.Q.Khan, he said "Tu kiya main ek banday k liya Pakistan ko daw pay laga don?" Do u know the meaning of this line.

Asim replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 12:46 PM  Waqar Latif, i think people in Lal-Masjid were given many chances to give-up their ZID, those mullahs were aggressive and were causing damage to the whole Pakistan. I think the time has come that we stop our support to these religious rebels. They cannt just hide behind religious veils and keep committing crimes, can they?

Ali khan replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 06:38 PM  Assalam o alikum I wish to impement islamic law in all paksitan....Allah hamri hafazat farmaii...

Khan replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 07:11 PM  Whose Sharia? :-) 1. Mullah Umar? 2. Usama? 3. Fazal Ullah? 4. Baital Mehsud? 5. Diesel (Fazal ur Rahman)? all are menace. Religion is a personal thing and its b/w you and ALLAH. Quran itself says "There is NO compulsion in religion". Wake up Ali Khan and others. Contemplate, dont be blind, dumb and deaf.

yesss replied on Friday, May 15, 2009 10:07 PM  Sydney Morning Herald newspaper from Australia printed the horrific torture photos that Obama would not allow to be released in the US. These photos can be seen at JuanCole.com if you have the stomach for such graphic pictures. Let America fight America's war. Pakistan cannnot be brought down doing America's dirty work.

unknown replied on Saturday, May 16, 2009 04:54 AM  its wonder why still people fvg these extream moulanas.lets talk about mullah in lal masjid ,due to those two brothers thousand of people died,and finally he tried to escape in burqa with the group of ladies ,shame on him,,, if we talk about moulvi sufi ,he said democracy is created by non muslims so its against the rules of islam,and it is ,,kuffer,,but i wat to know one thing only if those moulvies hate too much from non muslim,and there democracy,then why those moulvies are using vechicals/cars etc ,mobiles ec ,why they are using there created weapons etc.... there are so many other examples,,we sould be realistic,awake up for the sake of our beloved country,... stand with the government and support it..........

Hamid,Toronto replied on Saturday, May 16, 2009 02:14 PM  Totally Agree with you Mr. Unknown Stand with Govt and support Pak Army couragous actions. These nonsense fanatic Taliban have to go forever from Pak soul. 3%-4% idiots cannot hijak our society/culture. They cannot force their own version of Islam on 96% Pakistani population.

Azher syed, Helensburgh replied on Saturday, May 16, 2009 03:50 PM  I am basically against the enemies of Pakistan, no matter what ever greviences or excuses they put forward in the name of sharia or they procalim to be Mujahideen, Mullahs or Talibsan, when I see them standing and roaming in the wagons with their evil faces covered with black turbans, my blood starts boiling, I wish some one would kill them all in one go, wipe them from the face or earth. They are worse than pigs. They are bringing bad name to Islam. No matter what relegion they observe, what ever they claim to be Mujahideen, Talibans, if they are enemies of Pakistan, they are worse than pigs.

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