17 the august is memorable day of history.
this is teh day when the plane of general Zia was crashed.
he along with his main team leaders were died in this accident.
rather this was not accident,this was killing.
killing of a man who gave recognisation pakistan in world.
who make us strong.
who saved our borders,
who was so quick in his policy that india who is eating us today was fighting for its strugle.
the great USSr was no more...
but as we did not continued his policies,we could not cover and control afghan refugee and afghan Govt,so are in severe desperate conditions.
no khalsa movement,no asaam movement,no name of kasmir freedom fighters......
the responsible are our great leader of today including Eitizaz ehsan who was interior minister when rajeev and BB met and decided for future of khalsaaaaaaa....which turned down our whole victory in to loss....
MM replied on Monday, August 17, 2009 09:05 PM
There is only Ejaz-Ulhaq left praising ZIA now you are the second one.
Regards,
MM |
Rashid replied on Monday, August 17, 2009 11:08 PM
If you praise dictator then we can only say Duya for you, May Allah give u the ability to recognize between bad and good. |
alpha beta replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 02:59 AM
...... and the dictator Zia had his final fate leaving behing his only off-spring ...... Guss who? |
ua replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 03:07 AM
Don't understand how can a person consider supporting terrorists in other countries (even if we don't like them very much) as a good thing. But, well, everyone has his own set of values... |
Long Live Pakistan replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 04:01 AM
Well if Gen. Zia Shaheed was a dictator, may Allah give us more dictators like him. He was the ONLY one after Quaid-e-Azam who made Pakistan strong to the extent that it has survived till today despite all efforts done by Gen. Musharaf to destroy Pakistan.
May Allah grant him highest place in the Heaven. Ameen |
Naveed Yaseen replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 04:45 AM
> Don't understand how can a person consider supporting terrorists in other countries (even if we don't like them very much) as a good thing.
1) Indigenous people bearing arms against invading armed forces are not terrorists.
2) Sovereign states have only two possible modes of equilibrium in their relationships. A less likely one where they trust each other's commitments and are wise enough to understand their right to live with fair limits and other's right to live their own.
But a more likely mode of equilibrium occurs where one or both states don't trust the other and/or cross fair limits. This usually occurs where at least one state is obsessed by superiority complex and have an outreaching identity to not honor other's right to live their own.
This is the mode of equilibrium between Pakistan and India. |
an dissapointed Pakistani replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 04:57 AM
See the attitude of so called biggest democratic leaders:
Bhutto made kala bagh dam consortium his daughter and son in law are against. What a hepocracy in big leaders.
Zia made very big developement in atomic energy, Benizer said if she would have been prime minister, no atomic explosion.
The biggest cheaters, thiefs are in biggest so called democratic party.
The movement of Khalistan which was also making Pakistani boarder safe was ended with one the reason that Benizer gave all proofs to India.
Zia and people like him made Pakistan save the so called biggest democratic leader Butto sloganed idar hum other tum just to save his government. |
another sad Pakistani replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 05:09 AM
Also see the so called biggest democratic leader made the biggest fraudis agreement so call NRO (between a dictator and so called biggest leaders like benizer, zardari, altaf hussain etc, what a hepocratic decision "a dictator is a father when NRO is required"
See the biggest badmash (living based on badmashi tex in karachi), making fool to Pakistani people.
See the so called biggest leaders statement before they said
SARRAY MAHAL is not for them and now there is a claim for SARRAY MAHAL.
The biggest 10% and now 100% is belong to the so called biggest democratic party. |
nabeel replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 05:19 AM
Last night i went to faisal mosque for prayer and i think zia-ul-haq is burried at the most prime location of pakistan and he will never be forgotten. i think if we keep looking at our secular media and think that whatever they are telling us is correct then we are losing our identity. no body dislike him other than ppp jiala. |
zahoor replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 05:32 AM
There is only Ejaz-Ulhaq left praising ZIA now you are the second one.????
i think there are many many like me who do not go on slogans and speech but see on ground reality..and
if we see on ground reality Gen Zia days were much much better...
i will only say that just compare his 11 years of rule from 1977 to 1988
and rule of 1988 to 1999.....
and just compare the facts and figures including security despite the afhan war...our central bank reserves,,our budget ....employment rate....our currency value...safety of borders etc..
some say that he was wrong while doing afghan war...
if pigeon will close her eyes on seeing cat and will persume that cat will not eat her.....this will be biggest mistake....
any ways every brother has its own right and views but i will say only one thing in the end that if we sincerely brought the fact of that 17 august accident which was killing of great Gen zia,,probably we were not be seeing december 27 (benazir death) |
Daniyal replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 06:57 AM
Zia,
Was a dictator,Killer of Mr.Bhutto,and destroyer of Pakistan and responsible for whatever is happening in Pkistan.May I ask his great descendents what is the source of their income for maintaing huge mansions in Pind,not doing any job and living like kings.How many people in the whole world can live like this by not doing any job for 20yrs,obviopusly its from corruption and money their father left for them.
Daniyal |
MKS replied on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:27 AM
I'm an expatriate in Europe and alone my company hired if not less than about 100-200 hundred engineers in last 5-6 years.
I was in the begining lot but later on Pakistan's image went so wrong due to daily protests and later due to bomb blasts and then last nail in coffin was mumbai drama and India being potrayed as a victim state.
In last 3 years 80% of those hired engineers are Indians and they are pathetic...some of them cannot speak english with correct grammer. Technicaly, they are dumber than engineers from any nation, I had ever came across but no body will ever hire engineers from Pakistan, despite the fact that my company have projects in Pakistan.
The point is terrorists have not inflicted as much damge to Pakistan as much nagative propaganda in media did.
India has been credited with jobs and visas in sympathy.
I'm a Pakistani, I understand Pakistanis are not terrorists and my western colleagues who once visit Pakistan have same opinion but why our own leaders go out in media and tell that Pakistanis are planning terrorist attacks in western states???
Does Zardari think that it is only his son who have all the rights to live abraod and come to Paklistan only to address the stupid nation? and we should leave our jobs and come back to Pakistan to act as voting slaves?
As I said I know Pakistanis are not terrorists but at the same time I also know we have many problems of other sort mostly those are cultural and we pay heavily for not letting go pre historic mind set of being jellous to every one around and act in opposite just to retard their growth, perhaps!
Once my young manager in Pakistan (a retired captian Engr. Mr. Saeed Zafar) taught me lesson, i was upset of my salary as compare to an elderly man who was in same grade as i was... that prticular moment i was bit hostile and angry but he politely called me in his office and told me that he knew my problem and as a piece of advice he said ''a pony is a breed of horse and it is bound to overtake donkey''.. discussion ends but that was the day i felt the strength of leadership. I learned to look forward and up not down and around. (thnaks God)
What we need is a qualified and experienced manager/leader, to fix all what has been broken. |
