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Why DHAI is better than CDA!!!,

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Thursday, October 1, 2009 05:41 AM 

It is very simple to set bench marking when you compare Islamabad to DHAI

(In response to the post#44932)

In Islamabad the street pavements usually completed at least 10 years after, from when the sectors are usually declared for making homes. In DHA they are made BEFORE they are declared for the same.
DHAI is keeping improving on standards: See DHA-1, then DHA-2 and now DHA-2 Extension, every later is better than the former one. In CDA: See earlier sectors of 60’s & 70’s and NOW see I-16 standards????
Do not you think that those 100’s of cement electric poles look funny???

DHA also lags in completions schedules but have been better in completing DHA villas-phase-1 and I think they will further improve on Villa’s phase-2 project but CDA…… OH my GOD!!!!!. It seems they have forgotten the meanings of word "shedules"?

DHAI is full of money but CDA? Where is the money to build stuff, probably the most corrupt organization in Pakistan now!!!

In DHA, if you buy a plot, you are assured of NOT having any problem, associated to it. IN CDA just go and try to get one in new allotments, for example in G-11, you will come to know, once you are in the hands of property dealers!!

Convince me if I am wrong in saying that:

In a 5 years time, the rents (NOT the prices of houses) in DHA-2 & ext will break even with the CDA sectors, like G-series, I-series and even after sometime in F-series.

Well! If miracles happen in CDA, Islamabad is (not most of it, of course) would be nice place in terms of investment, but DHAI will be better in both, investment AND living, with the passage of time.

MAS replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 06:37 AM 

Islamabad is the center of Bureaucracy

Islamabad is the center of Political institutions

Islamabad is the center of Judiciary

Islamabad will be the center of military power in the future (GHQ)

Islamabad is the center of diplomatic missions

Finally, the private corporate sector (which is the hallmark of Karachi and Lahore) prefers to be physically close to all of the above. It lets them interact with sources of power smoothly. Same can be said of foreign NGOs and International Institutions like U.N. or the World Bank.

There is enough room for the corporate sector to expand in Islamabad. Blue area is developed only up to F-8/G-8. It can continue to develop into the F-9/G-9 area and then on to the Margalla Road.

Also Islamabad has the beauty of Margalla hills.

DHA has done a great job but they have selected a very poor location which is too far from central Islamabad. I wish they had selected the Barakhu area instead. That would have been closer to Islamabad and more scenic. The quality of their work (and administration) is already reflected in the current market price. Why else would anyone pay 60-70 lakhs per canal (in DHA-2) 20-25 Kilometers away from Islamabad. As DHA continues to develop, it may close the price gap further but will always remain behind the pricey sectors of Islamabad (Zone 1) in both Price and Rental value. If the rental value would be the same then why would companies and individuals want to be in DHA instead of Islamabad?

MAS replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 07:39 AM 

Clarification: My comments above had to do with comparison between main Islamabad and DHA. It does not apply to zone-2, since I don't know much about that area. I don't like to give opinion on something I don't know much about.

Mian Nadeem Islamabad replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:02 AM 

I respectfully disagree with Chisti Sahab.
DHAI-II is good for living.
Overall DHA is loot mar program,people will have to pay heavy development charges for their DHA-II Ext files soon. They are looting overseas as well as local Pakistanis latest example is DHA Valley they should tell the people about location and joint venture with Bahria when scheme was launched. U cannot compare it with the CDA posh sectors like
E-7,F-7,8,10,11.
Even middle class sectors like G-10,G-11,G-13 are also better than DHAI.

In price of 5 marla plot in G-10 or G-11 u can purchase 500 yards plot in DHA.
Non developed sectors like E-12 where no sign of start of development work have more markeet value than DHA Why?? Very simple reason location is the most important thing in real estate.
CDA is unable to get possession of acquired land because government has not given authority to use force against illegal residents/occupants having received money and plots from CDA against there land.
What about DHA they cannot produce map of DHA-I II ext after allotment of about 6 years.No they are merging different blocks , people paid more for alphabatially earlier blocks will suffer more.
DHA-II Ext 20 blocks A to T will be divided in 4 blocks.
Suppose u have purchase a DHA-II Ext file and a 40*80 Plot in
G-14,1,2,3 five years back now u can purchase 3 DHA-II files in the price of G-14 undeveloped plot.

Asad replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:05 AM 

A.o.A ,

Can some one give detail analysis of all these new sectors of CDA , what are the prospects and how would be the development quality.New sectors being

e16,17,18

b17 , d12

g15

usman replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 02:47 PM 

ofcourse cda is better than dha
dha lost its credibility when it got teamed up with malik riaz of BT .the worst fear of people promoting dha is that Islamabad is moving towards Fateh Jang, then property prices of DHA and BT will slide down .

chisti wrote ..."DHAI is full of money but CDA? Where is the money to build stuff, probably the most corrupt organization in Pakistan now!!!"

ofcourse DHA is full of money when they looted all this money from noone else than the poor people of pakistan ,i still remeber that forms of DHA few months back were sold in black .ofcourse DHA is full cause DHA has manipulated and used people here .look at amar house sale everyone knows its going down .

what CDA charge for development ,me myself got a plot in F sector in balloting and paid measly 70,000 rupeses and sold the same plot in 40 lakh .

what BT is doing ? sucking up people money .

usman replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 02:56 PM 

Its high time for cda to break DHA monoply thats why they have announced to open new sectors too .army get taxes from our hard earned money and makes these housing schemes to loot people .

JK replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 04:44 PM 

@Usman
I believe in the hate rate of DHA you are supporting CDA for nothing. You were little rash writing against DHA. May be you was misbehaved by a Fugi Jawan in your child hood but does not mean entire organization is bad/corrupt .CDA has also looted innocent public in the name of E-12 D-12 and then I-14,15&16.

Infect Islamabad is much better then DHA-1 or 11 but does not mean CDA is better then DHA. Both are Crooke and looter but DHA can produce some thing where as CDA is a gone case now.

Azad K replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 05:35 PM 

Well it is true that CDA is much better in terms of location and much more developed than DHA and others. It takes time to develop into an urban community. You cannot really compare DHA with CDA.

On the other hand there is more potential for capital appreciation in DHA once that area becomes fully developed and occupied, which may take many years. Also if CDA can increase the development of new sectors quickly then prices may not rise by much in CDA, except in prime locations.

Chishti replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 05:35 PM 

CDA is getting bad name due to its racism!
What is this VVIP and VIP sectors? Where else in the world could you find this stupid thinking?
Actually where is Islamabad now? See G-8 and its Markaz. Only so called VVIP and VIP areas are getting love of CDA. Otherwise go see G-8/9/10/11/13 and if you see I-14/15/16!!!!!!!
DHA does not make any difference whether you live in B sector or F sector…. No VVIP or VIP stupid thinking. I do not know why CDA HAVE to make bad sectors and good sectors intentionally and what they are gaining by doing it?
When 45,000 plots in DHA-2 will get developed on DHA standards, then you compare DHA to I-16 and would see the difference?
Before there was only “I live in Islamabad” thing but NOW “I live in Defense” is also a matter of pride.
CDA is only for old VIP sectors and it will never take care of most of the “remaining Islamabad’s “POOR” sectors.
Take an evening walk with your family in DHA-2 and go do the same in G-9/10/11/8 or in G-8 Markaz and come back to me with, not your own feelings but with your family’s feelings!!!!!

AS replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 01:34 AM 

Very few would like to live near huge places like "Bureaucracy,
Political institutions, Judiciary, diplomatic missions and the center of military power in the future (GHQ) by spending 5 times more than the DHA living.
Please always avoid VIP culture if you really want to remain an independent citizin. I fully agree with remarks of Mr Chishti and others.

usman replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 03:46 AM 

jk

wrote " May be you was misbehaved by a Fugi Jawan in your child hood but does not mean entire organization is bad/corrupt"

jk are you some kind of pervert ??? your calibre shows that you yrself was molested by some man thats the reason you came up with this sentence .
or maybe some CDA clerk lured you in your childhood .

get a life looser

MAS replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 05:02 AM 

Dear AS, When I mentioned the centers of power, I did not mean to appreciate or show reverence for VIP culture. I was simply pointing out that most jobs are, and future jobs will be in Islamabad. Driving distance will be an issue for many DHA tenants and therefore will have a strong bearing on rental value. This does not make DHA a terrible place. I love DHA-2's quality of development.

saueed replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 08:35 AM 

Dear Mian Nadeen , Mr Mas

that,s great if you quotehere the different size plot price in G-9,10-11..just to compare the dha 1-kanal plot price.

Asad replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 09:36 AM 

@mian nadeem islamabad


Thanks for the detailed information.By your review ur suggesting that B-17 and G-15 are currently worth investing in.

I think am going to prefer g-15 for construction of my house in near future as near to motorway , front on GT road and offcourse near to NEW ISLAMABAD AIRPORT :D

JK replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 11:24 AM 

This is Pakistan where developers announce a scheme with out the final price of a plot/house neither give time frame of completion. But still innocent countrymen buy suffer and pay endless development charges.

All private developers are corrupt and so are CDA & DHA both do the same.
It is matter to select out of evils and DHA has an edge on it since at least they produce some thing while CDA takes the advantage of his name with out having plus point in his favor from the last 20 years.

Neither CDA has the capability to develop a sector any more unless drastic changes take place in this organization. CDA is lucky enough that Musharif did not survive longer otherwise CDA would have taken over by DHA by now.

The debate is between DHA and CDA and not Defense housing and Islamabad otherwise there is no comparison as Islamabad is well grown up born in 1964 while DHA is just few years old.

I personally suggest investing in DHA is better then investing in any private society otherwise you will have headache and nothing else. These societies are no way near Islamabad standard and culture therefore DHA is a better choice.

JK replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 12:30 PM 

@usman baby never insult your elder and especially your seniors like atiq raja. I came after you to make you realize and give you taste of your own medicine.

usman replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 03:54 PM 

jk

i dont think i insulted atiq ,i stated the truth and i dont think so his views are partial.

are you his advocate ? i dont respect liars no matter what their age is .

Guest007 replied on Friday, October 2, 2009 07:47 PM 

Great and very informative analysis by Mian Nadeem. As for the DHA and CDA, I think DHIA sounds little Pendi-esh.

Raza replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 03:46 AM 

I believe we all are forgetting the basic principal of supply and demand. The only CDA regular sector which are ready for construction at present is G-13 and in near future D-12. Look the price there very stable. Whereas the DHAI there is ammense supply of the plots and this will keep on coming in near future too. Thus any investment made in DHAI will not be as lucrative as CDA regular sector annouced by CDA or Housing Foundation expample G-13 or D-12. Any other non CDA sectors like G-15, 16, E-12, E-16, E-17, E-18, D-17 etc will take years to at the level of G-13 and D-12.

Mian Nadeem Islamabad replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 04:30 AM 

Mr.Asad
My preference for construction of house in near future would be
1-D-12
2-G-15
3-E-16&17
4-B-17

Mian Nadeem Islamabad replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 04:39 AM 

MR.Raza G-15,G- 16,E-16, E-17, D-17 are CDA sectors developed by the societies in Zone-II with the permission of CDA, planning of these sectors is as per CDA master plan e.g wide roads, right of way , green belts.
E-12 is proper CDA sector in Zone-I allotted by CDA and FGEHF along with D-12.

Mian Nadeem Islamabad replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 04:53 AM 

Mr.Saueed
Price comparison as desired
G-13 25*40 4 Marla 24 to 30 lekh
G-13 30*60 7 Marla 40 to 45 lekh
D-12 25*40 4 Marla 24 to 26 lekh
D-12 35*70 10 Marla 50 lekh
G-11 25*40 4 Marla 45 lekh
G-10 25*50 5 Marla 50 lekh
G-10 30*60 7 Marla 80 lekh
DHAI-II 500 Yards 1 Kanal 40 to 65 lekh

MAS replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 05:25 AM 

Dear Mian Nadeem. You are very helpful. Jazak Allahu khayran.

Malik Mubashir replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 07:08 AM 

Thanks Mian Nadeem:Dealers are selling plots in E-18 stating that these are in Zone-II Islamabad.I confirmed u are right E-18 is not in Islamabad. Thanks allot your postings are informative and helpful.

Asim Mirza replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 11:24 AM 

DHA is DHA and CDA is fraud.

Still Foojies have some princeples and I beleive them better then looters of CDA

usman replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 05:32 PM 

ghulam zahineet

foojis are not different

Lohdi replied on Saturday, October 3, 2009 08:05 PM 

I think JK wrote right about usman thats why his anger is hicking against foojis.

usman replied on Sunday, October 4, 2009 04:31 AM 

lodhi

i think you served as their personal servent that why tum un kay thalay lagay ho

maybe they used you also thats why yr mind is still not free

there are good and bad people in every field ,if u think they r angels then i have to say you are gone case .

Saueed replied on Sunday, October 4, 2009 07:36 AM 

Mr.Mian Nadeem Islamabad

Thanks for your kind efforts and updates.

My budget is maximum 65-70 Lac. I wish to buy a 25x50 house in G-SERIES of Islambad. i don,t boddried where the house is old constructed but liveable.
please adivice that is possible in my budget
and who much are the tranfer charges of CDA.
if posible please post here your e-mail adddress for our directr correspondance.
ALLAH HAFIZ.

JK replied on Sunday, October 4, 2009 08:11 AM 

Dear Mr. Lohdi
usman is like dog tail. You can not straighten it unless put it in a pipe. Surely a fuji gawan will do this to make him understand. so leave him alone

usman replied on Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:38 AM 

jk

i think u r one of those faujis who can lick my boots, yea better leave me alone or else i can make you walk like a dog with yr tail between your legs .

oops did i insult some faujis ego ???

go cry to your mama now

Mian Nadeem Islamabad replied on Monday, October 5, 2009 05:09 AM 

Mr.Saueed U an purchase 25*50 size old house in G-9 or G-10.
In G-11 u can purchase
house build by Federal Government Employees Housing Foundation during government of PM Muhammad Khan Junejo (Late).
My email address
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