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Monday, November 23, 2009 07:58 AM 

Dear Kashif Chohan sahib,

It is nice to see you actively participating in discussions at LRE. I want to ask some questions which I think will benefit many visitors of this site.

Q.1 There many people who can not construct their house in one go because of financial constraints. so people adopt different techniques for example some construct single story house with very basic finishing i.e. no fancy floors no fancy bathroom no woodwork , and then as the money comes they complete in bits and pieces. another approach some people adopt is that they complete the two stories and then complete the finishing in coming YEARS. WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST FOR THE PEOPLE WITH EXTREME FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS? How they should proceed? And What is your estimate of cost for a 10 marla house with extremely basic finish ( single story or double story with one floor finishing)?

Q 2. There is general perception that It is extremely costly to get the house constructed from professional Builder than constructing oneself. Can you put some comparison between the two?


Q 3 What is your point of view about bank financing?

Although It is neither your duty nor your obligation to respond to this post but your input in this regard will be extremely appreciated.

REGARDS

Milo replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 09:06 AM 

I just want to add another question in the above very useful inquiry:

- As per the previous discussions, in Lahore the current construction rate is approx RS/SQ FT. Is it still the same?
- How much we should have initially (to start the construction) if we want to opt from one the above min options?
(e.g. 40% / 50% / 60% of the total)

salman replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 09:06 AM 

dr sahib,
I need your email id ..as I also wanna build the home in same circumstances...10 marala in Bahria.
We can share experiences

Kashif Chohan replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 09:49 AM 

Dr Usman

Thanks for your posting, here i will try to answer your queries

Q1.Construction with tight budjet is bit tricky.Different approaches may be used to tackle this like

a)Construct less covered area then usual one to keep cost of construction down.Just to leave more open spaces for lawn,patio,pessage etc.This approach has been adopted by Eden housing in Lahore.
b)Construct one unit house instead of two units so need of kitchen & TV lounge at upstairs eliminated. Moreover single bed and bath at groung floor would be enough.
c)Prepare most economical layout design so sanitry,electrical and civil work will be minimised.Kitchen & baths should be closed to avoid costly sanitry layouts.
d)Common bath may be used to serve two bed rooms at upstairs.
e)Roof height may be down to 9' instead of 10' to save cost( as Eden did ).
f)Windows,Main gate, wood work are expensive items their sizes can be reconsidered.
g)To construct single story is good idea but in future when you double it you have to re spend on roof insulation, parapet wall.Moreover paint work at ground floor will be destroyed and ground floor roof will remain damped for atleast next six months beside have physical and mental disturbance due to labour mobility during first floor construction process.
h)Grey structure completion is normally around @700 per sft.Rest of all is your choice that how much you want to spend during finishing process.In this way you can calculate yourself the cost of complete house.Without wood work and paint we can windup it up roughly around 900 per sft for a ground level plot.

Q2.Yes it would be costly to construct house through builder then your own because it is his whole time business & he put his time,efforts and skills (which has monetary value)to construct your house. Do you not think that he deserves part of your few months income which you must have forgone if you involved in construction process yourself by keeping your routine activities at sideline. However a professional builder manage the purchasing of building material at much lower cost then you did due to your inexperience which partly offset benefit of self construction. However if you have time and energies the best way is to construct yourself.

Q3.I donot know much about bank financing.However in my opinion it is visious circle in which people trapped.Remember banks take large portion of interest in early instalments so even if you decide to close financing you suffer loss. Some people construct double unit and from upper portion of rental income they pay bank instalments for longer period of time. Best way is to get finance from your brother,sisters or close friends who trust you.

Should have any further query please feel free to ask

Thanks

Kashif Chohan
Consultant home builder
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Dr Usman replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 11:56 AM 

Thanks alot Kashif Chohan sahib for your detailed and highly informative response. Reading your views about I reach the conclusion that the Architect plays pivotal role in minimizing the cost of construction. Can someone explain what grey structure exactly means.
Regards

Kashif Chohan replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 12:51 PM 

Dr Usman

Grey structure means all brick work including boundry walls,complete plaster,complete sanitry work,rough flooring,roof insulation,safety grills and main gate installed so that house is ready to proceed ahead towards finishing stage according to client choices.

Gp Capt Irfan replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 02:25 PM 

Dear Kashif Chohan Sahib.
I appreciate your valueable guidance particularly for Dr Usman and generally for all viewers of this site. Thanks a lot.

Ashraf Zaman replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 03:18 PM 

I am reminded of the old gentleman Mr. Salman and all that he shared about parkview. I think he was right.Many thousands of kanals less land than what is shown on paper: That is the real problem!

limo replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 04:19 PM 

Dear Kashif Chohan, what i have understood from your suggestions is that you got to architecturally manipulate the layout and at certain places compromise the basic standards in order to accomplish your construction through a tight budget.What about someone who wants to go ahead with his planned layout of the complete lets say two storey house, wants to follow standard construction procedures and does'nt have enough fund to complete it in one go?For example i have a plan for a 10 marla d'storey with one bed at ground alongwith DD, TV lounge and kitchen and 3 beds at the upper storey.Do you have any tips for partly completion of such a house with tight budget.Thanks

Aamir replied on Monday, November 23, 2009 08:27 PM 

@G/C Irfan : Course?

Kashif Chohan replied on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 05:19 AM 

Dear limo

If you donot want to compromise on layouts then you have an option to compromise on finishing standards or left some portion of house incomplete.

Another option to save cost is to compromise on quality of building material ie use substandard building material. I will never recommend you to go for this option.Houses are built once in a life so just to save few thousands never put a question mark on basic structure of house.Technically and morally this is corruption.

Thanks

Gp Capt Irfan replied on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 05:20 AM 

Aamir Sahib my email:- and cell
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