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Market Alert: Lot Of Buying is Seen In DHA Lahore Market,

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:36 PM 

Lahore Real Estate is once again witnessing heaving buying in DHA market especially in DHA 6 plots and DHA 9-10 & 8 proper 1 kanal files. Very few sellers with too many buyers in market and the kind of buying from actual clients we are seeing is telling us plots in DHA 6 will gain 3 to 4 lacs in coming 12 weeks and files could gain 1.5 to 2.5 lacs during next 12 weeks.

We believe after 12 weeks you will never find a seller in DHA 6 under 40 lacs in any block. DHA 9-10 should try to touch 15 lacs in next 12 weeks and DHA 8 proper could see as high as 37 lacs soon. DHA 7 23 lacs plots will be history after this month of feb 2010. Many cheap plots where picked up by a large Karachi investor.

For me buyers and seller have equal respect and I never favor one over other because I dont know on next deal If I will be having a buyer or a seller in coming days. I could not gain extra business if market is flying high because almost nothing is available for sale when market moves up very fast or same way no buyers can be found when market is falling fast. Deals are extremely hard to lock in high flying markets.

From a dealer point of view its very easy to work in dull markets because we get most buyer and sellers agreed to deal lot easier and more deals are locked in dead market. In high flying market only prices shoot and dealers loose because acutely they dont get a chance to lock most deals at any price. Some people do make money on Baina plots etc but that kind of gambling is not happening these days at larger scale.

Today I thought for many hours before I wrote this post. I was not comfortable about writing this post but than It came to my mind its my duty to let every one know what I know and its their duty to think 100 times before investing their hard earned money any where.

Most of the times people do claim credit for their sharp thinking and right time investing if they make money on that investment and blame others if they loose money. I cant change their this habit :)


Ch Mujahid Yasin (CMY)
03224009967

Hopeful replied on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 03:23 PM 

Dear CMY,

I hope that your are right in the reading of your market trend. Unfortunately whenever I ring any dealer for selling my plot I get ridiculously low offers and get told that the market is dead and there are no buyers. I will off load my plot at the 1st opprotunity that presents itself.

Muhammad Ali replied on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 04:17 PM 

well market is dead as far i can tell with no light,dead industry and all the troubles heading towards pakistan
last night news govenment claiming to stabalize the worth of pak RS againsta dollar show that pak rs is going to go down.
today the ministary of wealth is again vacant as shukat tarrian has left and as far i can tell he is a banker and thigs where getting out of his hand so he left, so a lil boom ur refering to CMY is called bubble effect.
thats my point of view most of u may differ

Onlooker replied on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 05:04 PM 

My two cents: the brokers generally have been reporting higher activity in Phase 6. Also when you visit the area from any side, the huge infrastructure works in progress impress you. So that might be one reason. The second may be the type of investors that Lahore realestate attracts. They perhaps depend to a large extend on agri cashflows or overseas sources of income. Both sources have a boom like never seen before. Yes Karachi market which depends on the wellness of the salaried class and mortage funding is in pits with bottom not in sight. So there may be genuine buying taking place. The Capital Gains tax of the stock exchange may further support realestate activity.

Viewer replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 04:33 AM 

OLD TACTICS OF GETTING GAIN BY PROPERTY DEALERS. PREPARING GROUNG FOR GETTING PROFIT. THEY PURCHASE THE FILES AT VERY LOW RATE AND WHEN THEY WANT TO EARN SOME PROFIT LAUNCH A RUMOR IN THE MARKET TO ARTIFICIALLY INCREASE THE PRICE. REMEMBER DURING LAST MONTH RUMOR WAS (G. KIANI WILL INAUGURATE THE DHA TOWN IN PHASE 9&10) AND ALL OF YOU SAW THE PRICE CHANGE. THIS IS AGAIN THE SAME THING.

Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 06:17 AM 

Dear Friends

CMY's comments are promising, encouraging but pinching too. If I am a buyer why I should rush to get hold onto something & if I am a seller why I should off-load before it is too late.... once again? We need powerful arguments, what has made the investors to rush to get something in the DHA Lahore market ONLY?

Lets see:
1. if the given situation has undergone any specific & remarkable change?
2. Has any political or otherwise incidence has happened leading to draw the above conclusion?
3. Why only the DHA Lahore market?
4. Is the DHA management or its policies are changed?
5. Have they given a specific deadlines for ballotting, development or fixed the development charges for a given period?
6. The buyers & the sellers being the potential customers of DHA, has the DHA focused its customers & has facilitated them by taking extraordinary steps to safeguard its customers' interest.
7. Has the DHA realised that its customers has suffered alot in the last 3 years & has ensured that its new plans are meant for mutual advantage by providing a secure & convenient living & reasonable return of their investments.
....well! every assesment & projection should have some basis otherwise it is just an other bubble without any basis. May be some or all of the above have been fulfilled by the DHA lets hope, wait & see.

Prudance says, if I am a buyer I should confirm the given trend by watching the market carefully in the coming 8-10 weeks before putting my stake; if I am a seller I should wait 8-10 weeks to cover up my losses before taking a hurried decision.

HHH replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 06:38 AM 

Why the hell you people start blaming property dealers ....don't you have brains no one is forcing you to buy CMY is in market and you people are obviously not in market ...most of people who advocate that prices will not increase why do u come to this site ...well pretty much all those people who want to buy and don't have money to buy.....i Bought corolla for 1809000 in October 2009 today Indus company is selling same car for thousand increase in price .....Sugar is getting expensive ....Petrol is expensive .... price of making house is getting expensive.. and you people still want property to fall .......those who think there are many surplus plots....guys look at Pakistan population its exploding ....plot number may have increased but look at the size of land owned its decreasing in 1960s average size of house in lahore (look at model town) was around 6 to 8 kanals in 1980 to 1990 avergae size of a good house became 2 kanals(dHA PHASE 123)and now in 2000 it has reached one kanal ........You people have right to advocate your point of view that property prices cannot increase with logic keeping in mind property should be considered long term investment at least 10 years period...what happened in property business in 2003/2005 was gambling ....it happened in stock markets in Pakistan and in oil trade internationally as well.........a good property bought can never be bad investment its safest investment you will always have piece of land which cannot be made artificially..
Stop blaming others for you decisions

onlooker replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 08:13 AM 

The road in front of airport is perhaps now the most well built & well lit one in entire Lahore. After completion of commercial broadway DHA Phase 6 is at 5 minutes drive from the airport. Similarly access from phase 5 and 4 is being improved through a massive project. These are fundamental changes for any realestate. Secondly, Rupee has devalued by approx 33% while the price of realestate has been almost stagnant after they lost around 50% from their peak in 2005. Researchers tell us that Real estate prices give approx a 3% return over inflation in the long run. So prices have a lot of catching up to do. They can remain stagnant for one year or so more but they have to catchup with inflation at some point.
So I am not surprized if CMY reports an upturn/increased activity.

CMY replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 08:19 AM 

Pardesi, Jeddah bhai Can I respectfully disagree with you ? :)

"1. if the given situation has undergone any specific & remarkable change?"

Was there going to be a 10% capital gain tax on stocks last month? Smart people are now shifting their investment to property from stocks.

"2. Has any political or otherwise incidence has happened leading to draw the above conclusion?"

People feel political temperature has now cooled down a lot after prime minster and CJ meeting. People are thinking there is more chance for ZOORDARI to survive for a little longer.

"3. Why only the DHA Lahore market?"

Property sale purchase have picked up in all of Lahore housing schemes but DHA is a market leader. Once its gets rolling every thing moves with it.

"4. Is the DHA management or its policies are changed?"
Yes new management have taken up many steps to make DHA more beautiful. Current DHA administrator is making many moved that were pending for long time. Just for example for DHA 6 alone. They have started construction of boundary wall. Parks School Mosque is now under construction in DHA 6 by new management.

Have you seen the kind of work is now carried on ring road along DHA 5 and on interchange between DHA 5 and DHA 6 for ring road and on DHA 8 interchange at broadway? They have changed the entire shape of DHA area in less than last 4 weeks alone. Have you seen how ring road infront of Airport is looking after its 100% complete and how beautiful it looks now.

Have you seen how many houses are now under construction since your last visit to DHA 6. DHA 6 front blocks are now looking great in the good shape houses were looking in DHA 5 just one to two years ago.


We are slowly coming out of property market and political depression and now sellers are just not able to sell any thing any lower than todays prices. Market prices are same in last 3 4 months and refuse to go any lower but now they are getting momentum to rise up and they will now rise solidly unless some thing too bad happens.

My friends I have to buy and sell things daily to earn my living. I get chance to see what people are actually doing not what what they are thinking to do. From my office desk I get chance to see how many people are going in and out of DHA head office. I walk to DHA office every hour to see hhow many transfers are ahppening. You dont see that. I get call from most buyers and seller for advice no matter from what dealer they are buying or selling their properties.you dont have chance to see that picture. I get to chance to talk to people that make DHA market daily by giving rates that are trade able. From actual buyer sellers data available to me from my own cleint base I can GUESS more easily than most visitors of this website people that are not in touch with current market. Forget about other things i said above and just look at front page traffic of www.LahoreRealEstate.com alone

https://www.lahorerealesate.com/modules.php?name=Statistics&op=Stats

You will notice more interest of people in property matters is developing once again after long time. I have not changed any thing in front page of www.LahoreRealEstate.Com Why more trafic there?

I have 16 buyers now but unable to find plots in DHA 5 6 7 at last weeks prices. Sellers are looking for higher prices and postponing sales for now. When asking prices rise most sellers back of pending sales thinking to sell when current up wave stops.

Ch Mujahid Yasin
03224009967





Ch Mujahid Yasin (CMY)
03224009967

Shahbaz Dubai replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 08:36 AM 

Dear CMY

I 100% agree with u, keep it oup and continue posting ur valueable comments. We appreciated ur comments and suggesion in the property market.

Best regards
Shahbaz Dubai

Imran replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 08:42 AM 

look at Divine Gardens price trend for 10 marla, coz of the awesome location after completion of airport ring road phase

10 marla home price


May 2009 83 lac
July 2009 85 lac
Jan 2010 87 lac
20 Feb 2010 90 Lac

all these are official prices not artificial

Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:57 AM 

Deear CMY

I really appreciate your quick response; you can understand everyone's (ours & yours) commercial & psychological assocication with the issue. I am happy to see some information regarding DHA management though not agreeing 100% to all the replies, like politics & investors' sufferings but lets not boged-down into the nitty gritties.

With the given arguments one can figure out the future of Ph 6 but do you have good news for Ph 7 to 10, especially Ph 8 ballot?

CMY replied on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 01:03 PM 

Pardesi, Jeddah bhai

DHA 7 developed area plots are getting harder to find with each day passing. We will insha Allah have possession in R S T Q U and possibly P some time during this year. Major theme parks zoo and other attractions should be revealed in DHA 7 some time during this year perhaps on day of possession announcement. Future of DHA 7 is now very bright from current very low prices.

DHA 9-10 was a phase where people were thinking not a brick will be laid for next 15 to 20 years but please note Asakri 11 and houses scheme for solders in now under development in DHA 9 area with 1000s of houses construction underway. Today DHA 9-10 have developed or under development phases or schemes on ALL its sides. One side you have DHA 4 and 5. On other side you have densely populated area on Ferozpur road side, on bottom side you have under development Eden lands and country Homes. On fourth side you have developed Elete homes and developed DHA 6. In DHA 9-10 with ring road now under construction you will be JUST 5 to 6 minutes away from airport or densly populate DHA phase 1 to 4. DHA 9-10 allocation is issued against 4 kanal lands. Tell my where in Lahore can you find me 4 kanal land in Lahore. You cant find 4 kanal in 13.75 lacs in Raiwind or even Jallo or Hudaira. People just dont like to buy when its cheaper. They will start buying these files in herds when they are over 20 lacs :). Forget when the land will develop. Just think you will have a 4 kanal agri land or one developed kanal plot in DHA 9-10 area. With 13.75 lacs you are acutely buying 4 kanal land that give you right to get one kanal plot in DHA 9-10.


DHA ballot date is not known to me and only DHA Lahore will be able to tell you about it. When ever DHA 8 is developed it will be the best phase. Better than all current phases in my opinion.


Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
03224009967

v1s1t0r replied on Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:32 AM 

CMY said "Today I thought for many hours before I wrote this post. I was not comfortable about writing this post but than It came to my mind its my duty to let every one know what I know and its their duty to think 100 times before investing their hard earned money any where. "

Sir....i have no way but to say "Thank You" for writing your comments/opinion on current property situation & rate updates etc. As a nation, i am sorry to say that we do have this "sickness" of not praising some one's good work & always taking pride in finding faults !

Can't thank you enough for your absolutely free service. May Allah give you reward for your sincerity & devotion, despite of regular discouraging posts from otherwise "oh-so-useless" contributors of this forum !

ma'as-salaam !

Abdul Salam replied on Thursday, February 25, 2010 02:31 AM 

I visited Phase 6 last week and seeing the development works decided to start construction of house in Sec K.
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