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NEED MONEY BACK,

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Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:38 PM 

My father invested all his saving PKR 70 lac with very good friend who had a small business unit. His friend promised for confirmed ioncome of PKR 60-80 monthly (based on profit loss). My father invested as he want interest free profit.

His friend gave profit for 6 months and now due to slump in business not able to give any thing for last 1 year. Father has requested him to give money back but his friend asking for more time and now dragging the matter for over 14 months.

We have agreement over PKR 100 stamp paper and also we have two cheque of PKR 30 lac each from his friend (but his friend told no money in bank)

Please advise how we can take legal action against this man who is not giving money back.

Appreciate your feed back.

Overseas replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:42 PM 

File a case in police station for the cheque and then he will come for deal

IFTIKHAR replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 01:38 PM 

Dont do this mistake. Police is OK in abroad but not Pakistan.
Please try to get your money with piar and mohabat, otherwise left it to God.
If you go to Police, he will give a few rupees to police from your father invested amount and you will never get your money. only get enemity.

Asad replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 02:01 PM 

Same happened with me.A gentle man borowwed 7.5 lakh and in the begning he paid some profit then nothing and then not answering the phone
The check he gave to me wrere not hounered by bank.
i spend some 20 thosand and got my case registred.Now him is in Jail for last four months
Do the same it is easier

saeedusa replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 02:38 PM 

My brother is in police in lahore as DSP and according to him there are more cases with bad checks than robberies and once you file a case with police with bad check, they will issue a warrant against him and he can't stay in his house and he has to hide and then it will be most wanted so best way is to file a case in police station.

atiq raja. replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 04:39 PM 

no value of stamp paper and no any way to recover amount

IFTIKHAR replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 05:25 PM 

Asad, please dont make fool. you are saying he is in jail for the last four months. it is not possible, this case is baleable and even within a day bail is possible, or even before arrest is possible.
I will advise, please try to get him in good manner.

Tariq Masood replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 05:29 PM 

Ask father to post him registered AD letter,giving 15 days notice that father will deposit cheque in his account. after 15 days deposit and when cheques are returned, register FIR, U will reach a deal favourable to u. By the way, I as Banker registered first FIR in Lahore in 1999 as a banker and got results. Keep cheques safely and get back Chqs from Bank when returned un-paid.Hire an advocate and follow his instructions but on these lines

Advice replied on Thursday, July 22, 2010 07:22 PM 

Send cheques in clearing, since they will be dishonoured,keep the memo, atleast you can file case due to this, whenever you wanted to do so. Otherwise these cheques will become stale after six months from the issuance date, mentioned on cheques

Shakeel replied on Friday, July 23, 2010 08:04 AM 

mr need help
atiq raja is right . u can send him in jail for few months but u will not get back your money .
Financal problems did hit every where maybe his businuss is down . Arrange the meeting with him no one is giving this much big amount to any ordnery person your father must checked befor to invest and if u think that he is honest person and his business is down then wait otherwise registr a case agaist him send him to jail for few months and forget your money .

Irfan Doha replied on Friday, July 23, 2010 10:54 AM 

I am overseas pakistani and see that some people are saying our police is use less some are postive, Shakeel indicated may be his business is down.

This can all be fustrating and may lead to confusion

Why don't u ask u r father either him or someone else like his son to become running partner, so if he do say biz is down, since u guys are also shareholders, ask him to make an office for you and start getting involved in day to day matters, in few months u will have clear picture, best is take the role account and finance managment and let him do the sales

Adeel replied on Friday, July 23, 2010 01:46 PM 

AoA

Very sad story on how entire life saving is put at stake just thinking wahat he thought was better. Your father could have been much comfortable with investing in Government saving schemes or certificates, instead of throwing away money like this; which has resulted in a phase of mental agony for God knows how long. Whenever you get the money back do invest in safe schemes after doing more research for your father:


The excerpt:
NOTE for fellow Muslims: Because this topic of riba involves what is haram (prohibited) and halal (permissible) in Islam, every Muslim MUST do his/her own due diligence and conscientiously reach own position/decision in regard to personal practice. In doing so regarding this matter or any other aspect of life, Muslims should seek guidance from the Qur'an and the Prophetic legacy.

"There is nothing prohibited except that which God prohibits ...
To declare something permitted prohibited is like declaring something prohibited permitted." Ibn Qayyim*

Shaykh Mahmud Shaltut

Shaykh Mahmud Shaltut () was an eminent Egyptian Islamic scholar. He was also the shaykh or grand imam of Al-Azhar University in Egypt from 1958 to 1963. Dr. Fathi Osman, in his book, Concepts of the Qur'an: A Topical Reading (2nd edition, Los Angeles, MVI Publications, 1999), p. 919, mentions the following.

"Muhammad Abduh, the distinguished Egyptian mufti and commentator on the Quran [d. 1905], considered the interest paid by the post offices for the savings there as lawful, an opinion later supported by Mahmud Shaltut, the former Sheikh of al-Azhar [d. 1962] Moreover, he allowed for the interest on state bonds, if the economic development and the individual and public interests require issuing them [al-Fatawa, 8th., Cairo: 1975, pp. 351-355]. Additionally, Shaltut agreed to any transaction with any fixed interest in advance, if it was offered by the Muslim state or any establishments subsidiary to the state or affiliated with it, as it assumed that there is no exploitation of either party in such cases."

Shakeel replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 03:06 AM 

irfan doha u r right my business is down but i did not cheat to my partner and still we r very close friends.

Khan replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 06:07 AM 

Every problem solution is Dialogue

give him sum time to reset his bussiness.

dont leave your right , if he not paid u stipulated time then go and register a case against them..(jis ki lati us ki bains)

remember before go to police: if u have anuf money then go becuase u have to pay them step by step to solve your case..

Shehzad Malik replied on Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:46 PM 

In fact the ecomic disaster, specially the downfall in real estate sector, influenced everyone. Those who had invested in files and specially in bogus socities almost ruined. I know the persons who were giving all kind of guarantees for investment in Dubai. Like in case of some disaster, they will return back all the invested amount. But when prices came down, they all escaped. If we see the reality, then they had also not any other option. When they were gaining profits, they were giving to their clients or investors, but when they stuck also, they couldn't do anything. So in fact it is the business, loss and risk is part of business. That's why there is difference between Sood and profit. No doubt one should not make such kind of commitments to their investors. But bascially at that time they too become so much confident that they think that there is no any chance that prices will come down. I am also one of the effected persons, who made millions of losses in property fluctuations. But I am still hopefull that I'll InshaAllah recover my losses.
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