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Education & Expatriates,

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   Pardesi, Jeddah
Tuesday, October 26, 2010 09:13 AM 
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People debate & raise these issues; I would like to ask the following questions to the forum & seek your advice (a favour requsted from the moderators as these does not directly relate to property & investment):

1. How much (to what extent) education is critical & indispensable to cater both the material as well as spiritual requirements of humans?
2. Should each individual strive for specialized education upto the university level?
3. How to maintain a balance between getting acquired knowledge & revealed knowledge?
4. Educated expatriates are just the brain drains & adding no value to the country. Please comment.
5. Will it be a wise decision to call back all educated expats to the country for its growth & development?
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shahid replied on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:17 AM 

ohh pardasi, ohhh pardasi asya na poochna dubara
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 05:46 AM 

Your concerns & suggestions are logical. However, I believe that this the time to encourage intelligent & hardworking Pakistanis who are striving hard & on the other hand to motivate a large majority by promoting success stories of those hard workers.

An easy exit is to blame the govt. & some of its prominent personalities (which media is doing these days) but this does add to the frustration..... Govt. ..... v all know everything!!!

My objective to raise certain basic questions is to promote awareness among individuals what is the way out; how to ventilate the rising suffocation. It is non other than education, education & ...... once again education. I am positive if masses at large introspectively try to respond themselves & reflect upon these questions they can also become the part of intelligent & hard workers & can add to the overall development & prosperity.
Raheel replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 08:36 AM 

Salam,

Both are nesscery:

1) Right Eye Knowledge:
knowledge of deen, wisdom, insight, knowledge of our creator and creation, knowledge of our begining that is from where we have come, why are we here on this earth, where are going after this life, and what will happen after this life.

2) Left Eye Knowledge:
Secular knowledge of making money to survive on this earth, knowledge of earning a decent life for our parents, family and children. Knowledge of becoming independant from other humans, knowledge of inventions and concuring outer space.

We need to have a balance for above TWO kinds of knowledges to spend a successful life on this earth and be part of success when we will stand in front of our lord Allah(swt).

Salam,
Raheel
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:24 AM 

Dear Raheel, u put an excellent submission.

However, this is an era of specialization, how can a person cope with the given challenges & can invest time on both of the above fields of knowledge? Infact, somebody argued, last month in Pakistan, that this may divert one's energies resulting confusion in their minds & their lives.
Raheel replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 11:48 AM 

Dear Pardesi Salam,
There was a guy in America named Johnsson, I forgot his first name, he was covering below activities:
1) A professional American foot ball player,
2) A professional opera singer,
3) A professional athlete,
4) A professional Lawyer.
It was easy for him to distribute his time for above four professions.
What we are talking, is about only specializing in one of the above professions or any other one profession, plus carry on the duty of our deen.

Salam,
Raheel
limo replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:14 PM 

I agree with Raheel.The big divide on religious perspective that we see in our society today is only because of the imbalance raheel has pointed at.One class goes to the madrasas and ends up in earning a tag of extremist in our society.Whereas the other class (which is dominant) goes for the worldly education and comes out with a high degree of secular mentality that centralizes the world. Skills that we imbibe as a professional merely provide us means to survive, not to live. Our present education system produces mechanistic and materialistic human being without the aspect of humanity, completely lacking strict moral codes and upright ethics which are considered as fundamental components of a Muslim character.
Islam aims at producing a believing generation that works for its religion and this world. But enemies of Islam top their priorities with an education policy that will serve their interests and produce a generation that adopts their concepts and traditions and give them their allegiances. Hence today we need to show our proficiencies in both the fields of knowledge (Islamic education and worldly education) but not at the negligence of one. It is unfortunate that people are not able to balance these two important aspects of life and often end up at the extreme side of either of them which leads to an endless clash in the society.
@Pardesi bhai,
In order to strike a balance between these two does not necessarily mean that one needs to specialise in "Deen" or end up as a Mufti or Scholar also.Iqra chain of schools is doing a fantastic job in this regards.
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:28 PM 

Thank you. This was exactly my answer to that person last month.

Now, let me share a real success story to get further into the Q4 & 5. A company started an executive post graduate business management program with a university of international repute at a fairly high cost for its emplyees. Each year a group of selected individuals join the program as per the university abiding rules & regulations as regular students. The company suffered for the days in which they attend the university classes. Afterwards, these individuals completed their studies they were offered better opportunities & some of them started leaving the company. The company could have stopped the program immediately but they decided aginst it; rather they brought improvements to the program. WHY? It boosted an environment of learning & performing throughout the 3000+ employees of that company & improved their productivity drastically - A win win situation for the individuals as well as for the company at the expense of some of the individuals who left the company. Morale of the story - all educated individuals will not leave the country rather a balanced education (with both eyes of knowledge) will boost the overall performance of that country.
Naveed Yaseen replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 01:09 PM 

> 1. How much (to what extent) education is critical & indispensable to cater both the material as well as spiritual requirements of humans?

At least some education is very important. It makes the thought process more rational, proportional and balanced, thus affects life of oneself and others in many different ways.


> 2. Should each individual strive for specialized education upto the university level?

No. It is neither possible nor necessary from social perspective. Even economically most successful nations have only a minor fraction of their human resources highly specialized/trained, which is sufficient for society's needs. That is like a cargo train, where only a few engines can and do successfully drag lot more cargo cars.


> 3. How to maintain a balance between getting acquired knowledge & revealed knowledge?

Get exposed to both, even if there is no apparent need to do so.

One should try to...
- widen up the scope of life beyond just survival and comfort of oneself and one's own family
- involve in productive activities beyond the specialized profession and household
- see new people, places, institutions


> 4. Educated expatriates are just the brain drains & adding no value to the country. Please comment.

They would be lot more valuable if in country, but still add some value to the country in different aspects like forex support, new technologies/institutions, better life standards of their direct and indirect dependants and descendants.


> 5. Will it be a wise decision to call back all educated expats to the country for its growth & development?

Yes it would be wise to encourage educated expats to come back home. It would also be wise to encourage youngsters to get education and learn from abroad and then return home.
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 03:23 PM 

Yes! & each expat is an ambassador of its home country.

Marvelous 2 c ur remarks even at the busy schedule of ur marriage. Shadi mabrook in advance.
Salman replied on Thursday, October 28, 2010 04:34 AM 

Back in 1980s, some journalist asked Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi about the Brain Drain which India was having and asked him about what steps should Indian Govt. take to stop this brain drain.

His reply was very interesting...He said "Brain drain is better than having Brain in the Drain"
Pakistan's current situation is no exception. I hope it answers your question.
irfan replied on Friday, October 29, 2010 05:43 PM 

Well I am from UK and I read all above discussion and now I think we need to deliver quality education from lower level then Insha Allah we can bring the change in future,now my question to all of you what we can do in education for our country,please discuss about the method of deliver good education.thanks
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