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Future of DHA 8,

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Sunday, May 15, 2011 06:53 AM 

An important discussion has been triggred by by CMY Comment in Post no 53197 If DHA 8 plots have level 7,8 feet Lower than Main Broadway then what impact it will have on over all price of this phase.
This Question is very important to new investors as after hike of Prices in phase 6 some people are thinking of Buying in DHA phase 8 or 7, I have not seen any example in past where DHA has lowered the Roads if Land is Low, The examples are in phase 5 where L Block, B Block etc where land is 8 to 20 feet Lower than streets, I always used to admire DHA development standarad , I aam sure they will do their best to maintain drainage system but still in very hevy rains nothing works.
We have the examples like Taj pura where few ys Back people were evacuated using Boats

jk replied on Sunday, May 15, 2011 08:13 AM 

There was once a washer man who had a donkey and a dog. One night when the whole world was sleeping, a thief broke into the house, the washer man was fast asleep too but the donkey and the dog were awake. The dog decided not to bark since the master did not take good care of him and wanted to teach him a lesson.

The donkey got worried and said to the dog that if he doesn't bark, the donkey will have to do something himself. The dog did not change his mind and the donkey started braying loudly.

Hearing the donkey bray, the thief ran away, the master woke up and started beating the donkey for braying in the middle of the night for no reason.

Moral of the story One must not engage in duties other than his own"

Now take a new look at the same story...

The washer man was a well educated man from a premier management institute. He had the fundas of looking at the bigger picture and thinking out of the box. He was convinced that there must be some reason for the donkey to bray in the night.. He walked outside a little and did some fact finding, applied a bottom up approach, figured out from the ground realities that there was a thief who broke in and the donkey only wanted to alert him about it. Looking at the donkey's extra initiative and going beyond the call of the duty, he rewarded him with lot of hay and other perks and became his favorite pet.

The dog's life didn't change much, except that now the donkey was more motivated in doing the dog's duties as well. In the annual appraisal the dog managed "ME" (Met Expectations) .

Soon the dog realized that the donkey is taking care of his duties and he can enjoy his life sleeping and lazing around.

The donkey was rated as star performer". The donkey had to live up to his already high performance standards.
Soon he was over burdened with work and always under pressure and now is looking for a NEW JOB!!!!

All characters in the story are not at all imaginary. Any resemblance to person living or dying of work is purely intentional.

CMY replied on Sunday, May 15, 2011 08:59 AM 

Habib bhai let me make it so simple that every one can understand it.

Any 8 to 12 feet deep plot from road level in DHA 8 will need a basement or major earth filling when your start building your dream house. A basement adds 30 to 40 lacs extra cost for one kanal house construction. (A house construction without basement in DHA cost 60 to 80 lacs and with basement will cost 90 too 110 lacs).

Will you be willing to have two side open plots with access on both sides in DHA8 or will you be in more favor to have all one side open plots at same road level and save almost 8000 people 30 to 40 lacs in extra construction costs each.

If in DHA8 all roads including 50 feet are built on Broadway road level each plot holder in DHA8 will suffer very badly as plot holders will have to come up with 33% more money to build his house with basement or do major earth filling. A mud trolley with mud just enough for donkey cart cost Rs 2000 to 2500 each today.

I think DHA is doing it right in this case and one side open is more justified. You can have all kind of view front main road side but access should be from 50 feet side only.

Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
03224009967

adnan replied on Sunday, May 15, 2011 09:19 AM 

@jk

well said

lot of examples around us in real life
in urdu they say

iskoo chooty nal milee js nay sabak yad kia

Habib replied on Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:14 AM 

Thanks CMY I agree with your Logic I think it was only solution to lower the level of DHA 8, in both ways DHA 8 Plot Holders would lose but this way they will lose less,
I Think If that is the case a New Investor like me should prefer DHA 7, now it i obvious that DHA 6 will remain Jewel of this area and DHA 7 will get benefit of bring close to it.
Now at this stage I dont want to invest in DHA 6 as it has already gained so much that it will stay here for a while.

jk replied on Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:42 AM 

Dear Habib,
I believe you are taking unnecessary tension DHA has highly qualified expertise to design and care of cost issue. If the roads are designs on high level leaving plots low, how about the services. Will it be laid on fill? I can not believe especially when it is sewage network.

Laying deeper sewage line will cost heavier and to take these lines to end point has to be on gravity and for me I do not think DHA-8 is lowest in the area and roads of this sector will laid naturally level and not on fill.

Habib replied on Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:55 AM 

Dear JK at this stage you cant understand my posts you need few million years evolution, Go and have Look of the area then read it again,
Your favorite 150 feet Broad way is already on at least 20 feet fill

observor replied on Sunday, May 15, 2011 07:57 PM 

Dear Habib, you are right but calm down some of us need time to process issues :). On phase 8 though it is still a darling for many, however there are many issues that require serious thinking.

jk replied on Monday, May 16, 2011 03:08 AM 

Dear Habib, we can debate if engineering is your field , I doubt because you was quoted example of Taj pura discussing DHA-8. The maximum rain recorded in Lahore in 170mm and it is nothing if catching area is observed in designing and we should have no doubt while talking DHA-8

You must have visited and noticed it well but can not understand if not in engineering field that why I suggested not taking tension but you exploited.

just visitor replied on Monday, May 16, 2011 06:35 AM 

guys i checked the elevation of area of DHA pahse 8 on the google earth and it is average 699 to 700. (elevation means heoght above sea level)althopugh there are deep pits with elevation of 685 to 690 but on average phase 6 has elevation 702 to 705 and ring road in front of air port has elevation 702 on average similarly other phases nearby have average elevation 702 to 705 so there is not much difference of heigt or depth on average. also the comm broadway road has elevation 701 on avergae taken from different places.

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AG replied on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 03:00 PM 

Dear all,
AoA,

1. It is not advisable to backfill & raise the level of an entire scheme/block from 685 to 701 or above because settlement of backfill over a long period of time will spoil entire investment by DHA or Individual house owners without any remedy.
2. The elevations recorded by our brother @Just Visitor are really very valuable & show that DHA 8 site is below all the adjascent/nearby other phases the designer of the Sewerage/Storm water drainage system will have to take into account not only the maximum rain & catchment srea of the Phase 8 but also any possible inflow of rain/stormwater from nearby phases & design the system accordingly.
3. It is possible that DHA 8 will need its own dedicated Swerage Treatment Plant due to low level of the phase.
4. Beauty of houses on both sides of the Broadway is, of course, important but the Main Target of the design has to be "No Nonsence" living for all the times to come.
I do not know whether Broadway is a highway or an internal road of the Phase 8. I live in UAE & here all the Housing schemes along highways are usually build a bit away from the highway with houses backside facing the highway. This saves the residents from noise of traffic & other traffic related problems.
5. I belive DHA are capable & will do the job right.
6. I respect & appreciate the contribution of all visitors of this site.
This site is not only Informative but Educative as well.

Kind Regards.
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