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Wednesday, May 25, 2011 04:17 AM 

Dear All

I was born in mid 1970s and I saw my childhood during early / mid 80s. I still remember at that time, we used to wait anxiously for 14 Aug to celeberate Independence day. I belonged to a middle class family so did not have the luxury to have long pocket - at times, I didn't even have the money to buy a chewingum - still, me and millions of children like me, used to save their pockey money to buy Pakistani Flags and ghandian, just to celebrate 14 Aug.

I still remember the National songs aired on PTV used to excite us a lot - who can forget the songs like:

- Watan ki mitti gawaah rehna (Nayyra Noor)
- Yeh Watan Tumhara Hai, tum ho paban iske (Mehdi Hassan)
- Khayaal Rakhna (Alamgir, Benjamin Sisters)
- and so on...

I remember at that time, I did not have the money nor the qualification - did not even know how to drive motorbike or car...BUT my country treated me with its best - my country helped me to gain qualification through ordinary govt. schools by paying nominal fee. I acquired higher qualification through govt. universities and then I found my way to countries abroad.

I started living outside Pakistan, managed to get a luxurious life - got tremendous experience and exposure about economic and financial myths...at the same time, my country went through its most difficult time in history, simply because this country was generous enough to accomodate every one including those corrupt politicians and military leadership. The country allowed them to suck its blood and eat its meat by all means and never complained.

Now when I have become a "qualified and matured" person and country needs my support, I am evaluating whether or not it is safe to invest in Pakistan? Whether or not I should return back to Pakistan simply because there is loadshedding? I am happy to tell others that Pakistan is a difficult country, but I never had the courage to tell them this country had helped me when I did not even know how to turn on a computer.

Is this attitude acceptable? How will the nature forgive me if I ignore my country and don't return what it deserves? A country is superior than parents - will we accept to ignore our parents when they need us? and if we do, how will the society call us? (I don't want to mention that word).

All, let us take a step forward. Please do something for this country as this is the ONLY source of our recognition around the world.

Overseas Pakistanis, please ignore what "Financial Times" forecasts about our country - we have proved in the past that we can always surprise others with our skills, let's do it again. If we can help our country regain its footing, we will emerge as the strongest, most proud nation in the world.

Let's do that and insha ALLAH, ALLAH will help us.

An ordinary Pakistani.

Javaid

Riz Khan replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 04:55 AM 

Dear Javaid,

Its true we Pakistanies are thankless people. I live abroad as well and let me tell u all that "Indians they are so patriotic that always project their country as the leading economy they never tell negative points. And they truely hate pakistanies and they always try to create problems for pakistanies. Even Indian muslims they are the worst then Hindues for Pakistanies. I intevied Pakistani and mostly they start abusing Pakistan that that shit situation and that worst situation thats why we need job.........Its very sad ... i recently invested my all of savings in Pak ........ Let me tell you "Jews say invest in property during war situation you will be filthy rich" Love Pakistan and Invest in Pakistan.

AQ replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 04:56 AM 

Sohni Dharti Allah Rakhey Qadam Qadam Aabad Tujhey. Inshallah this phase will be over, Pakistan will stay for ever. It is test time, we are bad no doubt but still not worst then billion of others. Allah will protect us, keep faith. except leadership, we are not that bad

Salman replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 05:34 AM 

I am with you Javaid and I have the same feelings.

As Kennedy said "Ask not what your country can do for you, Ask what You can do for your Country"

Pakistan needs us the most at these trying times. We must do whatever we can to support it, be it in the shape of offering our skillset or financially.

Please, please save your country.

friend replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 07:59 AM 

Lenhty lengthy speeches, briefing the problems country is facing, ever try to come up with solution ?.
Come on kiddos grow up.
Bring up solution even if its absurd, and if some one feels its absurd and has loop holes, that person should come up with some !dea and so on,we should only criticise any one if we are coming up with !deas to bring change.

Lets start it out with Economy. how to stop inflation and all that ?

Guest replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 08:09 AM 

Salam,
We have already started to send extra 500 dollars per month to our families in Pakistani bank accounts to bring foreign excahnge in Pakistan.
InshaAllah we will bring Pakistan out of the curretn situation. Thanks to Allah(swt), Invest as much as you can in Pakistan.

/Salam

hafeez replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 09:23 AM 

This is the real saga of Pakistan. The sitution is attributed to our deeds. we are more talkative and less actions. The Pakistan doomed into dust in 1971 (but we do not admit) and is on the verge of the same situation - due to our deeds. To whom u will blame everybody including me and u - the clergy, the bureacracy, the politicians, the military the judiciary - these categories had made bandar bant of Paksitan. most commentators have travelled extanxively - and Pakistan was a beautiful country in the world.

Javaid replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 09:26 AM 

Dear CS

I agree with you that patriotism can't be measure based on your location or where you live. You are right - Pakistanis living abroad are one of the key strengths of this country - my point was, if a Pakistani wants to come back, he is forced to change his mind by his family, friends and what not. He has been told that the country has become very dangerous and you should stay away from it. I was targeting this approach / mindset only. The country will only suffer more if Pakistanis start fleeing the country without returning back.

Second point regarding investment - every person has the right to earn profit through carefully evaluated investment options. However, if ALLAH has already given you sufficient (I know it is difficult to say that I got sufficient from ALLAH), then try to invest in Pakistan - be it a property or any other thing - or try to engage in a busines that would help country in any form - I know many people living abroad who prefer to engage with a supplier in China or Bangladesh or even India simply because it lowers their risk (or may be mindset only) - if we are so concious about dealing with Pakistan back home, how can a foreign investor every invest anything?

So, I don't think that I was questioning the patriotism of those living abroad, just wanted to highlight that please don't forget Pakistan - if you hear any -ve comment made by your non-Pakistani colleague, dont just leave with a "courtesy" smile - try to defend your country to your level best.

God bless you all.

WatchList Canada replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:17 AM 

@ Javaid, please do not try to play with the emotions of overseas Pakistanis who earn money with great effort. It seems to me you have never lived abroad and living somewhere near DHA and running a Real Estate Agency, otherwise, you would never make such statements.

I would prefer to do a safe investment abroad in this situation. No point of investing in Pakistan at this point. My guess is some big names in Real Estate have various investments on Biyanas and playing this emotions game.

It's my request to everybody Please be careful in investing in property market or any other business in Pakistan at present. Wait and see once there is credible leadership in power with some sense of security.

Salman replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:18 AM 

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN UNTIL WE PUT PAKISTAN FIRST AND FOREMOST, BEYOND OUR BARADARI, BEYOND OUR RELATIONS, AND BEYOND OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS.... YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU AT THIS MOMENT; PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE CONTRIBUTE IN WHICHEVER FORM YOU CAN.

CS replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:14 AM 

Dear Javed,
In that sense u r right . Just few minutes back i had a skype talk with my Sister in Pakistan. She was saying to be there n settle ur self in abroad, and was giving examples; how people sold there business and got immigration to US, UK, Canada.. etc etc...
Furthermore, if i talk to any of my frnd back in Pakistan, they always says " Yaha kia para ha bla bla....
In such scenario, how can we develop courage to go back :(

Ahmed replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:32 AM 

I am crying Javed!!! Allah (SW) save our Pakistan!!! Ameen!!!

Javaid replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:43 AM 

Dear WatchList Canada

I am so happy to realize that no matter how long you have been living abroad, you haven't given up things which make this nation look bad - as an example, you first assumed that I never lived outside i.e I am a liar - then you went ahead and assumed that I am a real estate agent around DHA - third, I am trying to exploit the emotions of overseas Pakistanis...I am sure you ran short of words, otherwise you could have continued assuming and at the end, probably had linked me with all your problems :)

At least I had the courage to mention my name, in your casse, you prefered to remain annonymous "Watchlist Canada" - but I don't mind - it is your right and I will fight for your right to oppose me.

Despite the fact that being in a real estate business is not a bad thing, I am not in this business. Enjoy your "concipiracy theories" and self-satisfcation if it comes this way - may God bless you anyway. Aameen.

Salman replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:40 PM 

Mr. WatchList Canada ... We can see whats on your list (Greed, Selfishness, Conspiracy,) I am amazed at your thought pattern.

Its not abt investment into property; its about investing your time and resources to help Save Pakistan in whichever way you can.

AG replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 02:25 PM 

Dear All,

Allam Iqbal said "Pavesta Reh Shajar Se Umeed Bahar Rakh"

Jo Shakh Khizan mein Shajar se allag ho jati hae usper kabhi bhe Bahar Nahin aati.
Choice is ours now my Pakistani Brothers.

Muhammad Nasir Abbas replied on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 05:04 PM 

Piyare Bhayio,

See also
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20110525

and Insha Allah after these hardships, we will emerge a Respected Nation. --- Ameen

tzk replied on Thursday, May 26, 2011 07:22 PM 

I agree with javaid and have been through the same situation like millions of others. The problem is that in our childhood heros were aziz bhatti, rashid minhas etc but unfortunately now heros and heroins belong to the other side of the border. How can you instill patriotism and loyalty when your heart is across the border.

Also remember what American President JFK said,
"ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY"

The day we start asking this, the country & nation will blossom

KSA replied on Thursday, May 26, 2011 07:45 PM 

why in pakistan, when an army officer get retired, live a good (lavish)life with car, home(in good scheme), children in good schools, bank balance and when a jawan get retire... he start working with tractor-trolly as loader....?

Najam in Canada replied on Thursday, May 26, 2011 07:48 PM 

Javaid,
AOA. I salute your love for Pakistan.
I am with you all the way. I have read all the replies to your thread, some good, some bad, some clueless, some baseless... But these comments are made by my Pakistani friends, so I don't mind because everyone is concerned about Pakistan in his own way...
I am in the same boat as you and many others are ...returning to Pakistan after many years of abroad life ... I am returning next year regardless... I have made investments in Pakistan and I have some other plans before I leave for Pakistan next summer...
The only driving force for my decision was my love for Pakistan and my believe in Pakistan ... May Allah bless our beloved Pakistan...

Ijaz replied on Thursday, May 26, 2011 09:36 PM 

Aoa, Alhamdolillah, we are doing our bit in UK (London). Please visit www.pakculturalsociety.co.uk
We are proud that we have so many children who celeberate Paksitan Day and Independence Day with national anthem and mili naghmas. I am sure you will like the videos of these beautiful children performing on stage.
We are in process of preparing a documentary on Pakistan so any person can help us with high quality video clips about pakistan we will appreciate. Thank you.

Javaid replied on Friday, May 27, 2011 04:55 AM 

Dear Najam

I am so happy to hear from you, and insha ALLAH, you will have a mich better, peaceful and prosperous life for you and your family in Pakistan. I have a similar plan to return back very soon.

Sheikh Shabrati replied on Friday, May 27, 2011 05:54 AM 

Dear All,
Please leave my friend Watchlist_Canada alone,i beleve he is right in his own senses.Let us all ignore the financial condition of Islamic Republic of Pakistan.And let us say by investing in beloved Pakistan we can help build our nation,so let me tell you it is utter non-sense.Many years ago when i returned to the Pak-Zameen,i had many friends and people like Mr Javaid who would argue with me about being patriot and all that emotional stuff regarding Muhab-e-watani,Qaum Parasti,Patrioticism,Islam,Pak Fauj.And that even we are abroad we are classified as 2nd class citizen,Your own country is your own country.All are brothers,every one is Pakistan here and so on.

What Pakistan are you talking about?Just turn on your own Television,and forget about 1970 or 1950.Even as i write here for you my beloved country-men,i see sick news's on tv.From Faislabad Agriculture Univeristy Scandal to Quetta killings of innocent women.
What do you talk about?What nation?Bloody non-sense.Our nation cant sleep well on night if they manage to watch a stupid bollywood one-night.India is our traditional enemy.But we dance on there songs in our weddings.You talk about independense?And the two nationl theory.But look at our news channels,even if they tell some news on the background is there stupid bollywood music.What nation and what country you talk about?Dont misslead overseas pakistanis.They have seen bad days in Pakistan,and they have managed to go abroad by very difficulties.

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