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Friday, March 30, 2012 06:12 AM 

One of brother M.Abid from German has commented on DHA Lahore Phase 9.

I've few comments on that.

I'M SURE IF YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING IN EUROPE FOR LONG, YOU WOULD KNOW THE PROPERTY DEALER/INVESTOR/CONSTRUCTER have been in deep loss since 2008. We should talk about in general rather for particular or two / three cities/countries like Germany, Holland or France etc. These are the countries which have not been hit hard by recession due to their best Economic Strategies they used to handle recession.

You can't compare the most developed three countries with under under developed country's property business in Pakistan.

Did you not know America and rest of European Countries especially UK, Ireland, Greece, Spain, Italy etc. are still in deep recession particularly Ireland and Greece have already been bailed out by IMF due to bad & blind investment and management of property business. I'm not sure why did you not check the statistics of these countries about property prices before commenting above.
O.k I will tell you now, Property prices in UK, Ireland, Greece are at nearly half the price what it was in boom time in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. Even the current property prices are that low but still there are no buyer in the market because they can't afford it as people have no job or money. So do you think they spend money/savings on property business like what you are thinking or referring others. You might have millions of Euros that you can think of investing money. Goodluck...

How can you say property prices didn't fall during crises period in Europe / USA, above European countries are the examples for that.

I’ve mentioned already in my previous post that its best to invest in property if you can spare your money for atleast 10 years by not buying at high prices like what is now happening with 1 Kanal file of DHA Phase 9 that has high risk of loss.

Another supporting point for my concern here is that in Property boom time in Europe, people thought to invest in property business regardless what high price they were buying for because they saw prices were getting higher and higher. People bought even two to four houses having greed in their mind like they bought it at e.g. 500,000 Pounds or Euros and will sell it in double of that price in couple of years time but they have been bankrupted now as they have no money to pay it back to banks or to sell the property because current price of same property/house is nearly half what they have bought in boom time.

And banking system in Europe and America has already been collapsed as you know already. So people who would have bought at lowest price back in 2000 to 2003 have already made the profit or even double of what they have bought before recession started. Do you know what I mean? That’s my point to tell others never ever buy at higher price especially when price changes so rapidly whether going up or down.

I totally agree with brother Abid to be 100% faith in Allah for any profit and loss in life but there are number of hadith of our beloved prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to first do the needful before you leave everything on Allah Mighty Allah. One of Sahabi (Razi Allah Talah Unho) was to leave a hourse outside house/camp and beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) asked him have you locked the horse with any locking point on ground but Sahabi said he left it on Allah who look after or save him but Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told him to lock the horse first then to leave on Allah. So point is we should do the needful or think wisely before we say that we leave it on Allah whether profit or loss.
Please correct me if I couldn't describe the Hadith properly.

Brothers/Sisters, I'm not an property expert but Allah has given us wisdom to use & spend your valuable money only when you see its worth investing.

MS replied on Friday, March 30, 2012 06:50 AM 

UnRealisticPriceOfPhase9 ,
I m not seeing DHA Phase 9 Prices are going Down in future @ rapid level ,it will be traded in future @ 25 +. Because there is no files behind left except DHA Phase 9.Before ballot of Park view file and Phase 5 Ext , people have choice either to buy phase 9 or other files.now for buyer of the file there is only one choice that Phase 9.

Khalid replied on Friday, March 30, 2012 09:05 AM 

investment in property and expanses on your children's education never get wasted . similarly opportunity do not knock at door so often. in an average life span it comes to you maximum 4 time and if you act in time it rewards and if you miss out you keep regretting whole life.

An opportunity in shape of DHA-9 has already approached you and if you have missed out it is time to regret now and prices will never ever be so low. longer you let it go higher you have to pay to catch it.

Remember DHA-3 was 12 lack in 1995 . DHA-6 16 lacs in 2003 and DHA-9 16 Lacs in early 2011. Now you keep thinking and do not waste you time in proving crow in not black.

CHASN replied on Friday, March 30, 2012 09:38 AM 

Thanks for such an intellectual discussion. Really enjoyed...

Khan replied on Friday, March 30, 2012 09:55 AM 

Dear UnRealisticPriceOfPhase9,

You must also be realistic in your views about DHA 9. Please do not misguide others by writing a lot against DHA 9.

Salman replied on Friday, March 30, 2012 10:37 AM 

You can't compare the situation in Europe with that of Pakistan for following reasons:

1) Very little prevalence of mortgages in Pakistan; hence no banking risk involved.

2) High double digit inflation since last 10 years whereas the prices of property have decreased compared to their original value already.

3) 180 million people with 48% population is below 18; As they grow older their demand for independent houses rise enormously...Genuine Demand

4) Huge number of Overseas Pakistanis believe in investment in Real estate.

Salman replied on Friday, March 30, 2012 10:41 AM 

and point no. 5) Phase 9 is worth a little more than the price of a Honda Civic. In Europe can you buy a 500 square yard plot or future promise of that plot in that value?

6) It is still 1/4th the value of a plot in DHA on which you can start construction today.

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ABID replied on Friday, March 30, 2012 06:37 PM 

Salam to all readers,

Bro Unrealistic, thanks for ur comments. Those were good but not complete. Bro if you talk about whole eastern and westeren Europe then you would find some European countries even behind of my lovely country" PAKISTAN ". Specifically people made a lot money in Spain, Greece, Uk and other ur mentioned countries in the sector of real estate. And LOSS you know why people got, because they were greedy.
As u said, didnot use their own brain and listened their heart.
They just looked others,oh he became millionair why me not.
And everyone must know, EVERY RISE HAVE FALL.
Its principle of nature not mine or yours.

There is also a princple those who think too much THEY ALSO LOOSE. Just win those who act and have trust in ALLAH.

Right Pakistan is a poor state but who made it poor you and me too. What we done? also nothing like our politicians.

But geologically this moment your state is situated in most IMPORTANT POINT, in the centre of,BEST FINANCIALLY GROWING CHINA, 2nd best fin growing INDIA, Muslims battlefield AFghanistan, Most courageous muslim state IRAN, and Arabian see.
Thats why prices will rise in any way even bombs blast, no energy, no security,no roads, no discipline.

Our opponants like to keep Pakistan backward but then Pakistan is ALIVE and INSHAA ALLAH will stay ALIVE, Grow and Prevail.

Those who are having money let them to invest in property.
If someone will buy a file with 25 lac in ph.9 or a plot in Ph.8 would gain INSHAA ALLAH.
Rupee is getting down and down so its impossible that an owner will loose in dha.

European developed and industrial states are also "TAX STATES" but Pakistan is so called a "TAX FREE" state.
No body ask from where money came, how u earned, why u made so big profit, pay tax.

There is big risk as bro unrealistic says but not in dha. Why? because people like to have home in some good developed, well knowned and trusted area.

Bro unrealistic,
Hadith of tieing a camel having concern with security of yourself not with trade.

Business is the name of risk thats why is halal otherwise it was also forbidden if was just profit.

And if we talk about need, then we shouldn't loose time to get villas but to pray ALLAH Rabul ALLAMEEN while living in tent and having ramadan whole the year round.

But u may live in Villas if all is halal and zakat paid money.

May Allah Bless all of us, the muslims.
amin and wa salam.
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