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   Paaro
Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:14 AM 
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Dear All,
This is my first time on this kind of site. I live and work in Dubai with my Father. We want to buy some property, plots in Islamabad only in CDA or housing foundation etc, because this is only safe investment. We can invest for around 2 years and then want construct our own home by utilizing same investments. Please give some good advise, as we dont want to live anymore in Karachi after coming back to Pakistan.

I read some in news that G14 sub sectors 2 and 3 are going to be developed soon, in future we can get good return on investment their, but, we are confused. Please advise, even one can write me on my yahoo email

stay cool
Daar replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:22 AM 

Hi Paaro,
Its sweet name.....how much is budget..?

Daar
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:24 AM 

Hi Daar,

Ohh sorry, I didnt write budget, I think my Dad can manage 2 crore Pak Rs, 20 million.
Daar replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:34 AM 

If u can get plot 40x80 in G14/3 at price Rs, 7,000,000 is very good investment, I beleive buy 2 plots of 40x80 in G14/3, I am sure u will get at least Rs, 8,000,000 in Nov 2012 if the machinery moved in this sector for development within 2 weeks from today, which is expected as per Housing Foundation.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:37 AM 

Thanks Daar,
I am waiting for more advises coming and looking for coments on your price assesment about G14/3
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:37 AM 

buy a 50X90 plot in D-12 and a 25X40 in G-13. Once you are back; sell the 25X40 and build your home in D-12.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:41 AM 

Hi Akhter,
What are prices for 50x90 in D12 and 25x40 in G13 at this time and what can be expected prices after one year time from today?
impartial replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:07 AM 

F 17 F 17 F17 F17.................. all the way
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:24 AM 

@ Paaro.. D-12 prices for 50X90 are from 14M to 18M whilst 25X40 in G-13 would be from 4M to 5M approx.

@ impartial..yes F-17 is all the way to Taxila and so far away from Islamabad. We are discussing Islamabad property prices- will let you know when we'll discuss Taxila.
ZK replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:39 AM 

1 kanal plot in g-13 or g-14 or 2 kanal plot in g-15 ..:D
Arshad replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:45 AM 

+ Akhtar Advice
SLK replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:02 PM 

To be honest- all property seekers (for investment and residence both) have their work cut out really- You don't really have any choice but G-13 and D-12 if you want to stay in Islamabad. All the other sectors/societies/schemes are either not there yet or are at least 30-50 Km from Islamabad.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:07 PM 

Hi all,
F-17 is deffinitely not good. I just checked D12, its location is great as compare to all other sectors, but, prices are also very high already, do u think we will get good appreciation if we buy 50x90 plot now in D12 and sell after 1 year. and what price for 25x40 in G13 can be expected after 1 year?

What prcies can we get in G14 and G15 after 1 year?
My Dad say, to live may be D12 or G14/3 is good option, I only once visited Islamabad 6 years before, dont have much idea, but, I want to live in Islamabad not in Karachi any more, Islamabad is fantastic

Thanks in anticipation for all advises,

Paaro
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:07 PM 

Prices in both D-12 and G-13 will go up by at least 75% by 2014. This is keeping in view the fact that there is nothing else coming up in Islamabad for the next 10 years.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:16 PM 

D-12 and G-13 are very good, I can see the MAP and D-12 location is best among all.
I am just reading online a news about G-14/3 and G-14/2 that they are starting development, may be this is good time to invest their now for 1 plot and 1 plot in D-12,
I am discussing with Dad, if we buy 40x80 plot in G-14/3 or small plot in G-13 and 1-Kanal 50x90 plot in D-12 now, it will cost like this
D-12 = 50x90 = Rs, 15 million
G14/3 or G13 = Rs, 7 Million

How much we should expect prices after 1 year, may be we can sell G14/3 or G13 plot and make our house in D-12...? what do u say please
SLK replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:22 PM 

I agree with this strategy. Buy 1K in D-12 and get a 40X80 in G-13.
Safe, sound and wise investment
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:23 PM 

Ok- Please visit to see the location of the plots at least twice before finalizing the deal.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:36 PM 

Guys,
1- DO u think we can buy 50x90 in D-12 @ Rs, 15 million?
2- G-13 40x80 price is also looking above 12 million,
3- G-14/3 sector looks good, what will be best option among G13 and G14/3 for investment, ?

I really thank you for your advises,

What do u think G14/3 is good option for investment, as prices in G14/3 for 40x80 are around Rs, 7 million today
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:45 PM 

You can get a plot in D-12 in 15 Million though will have to compromise on location. Better to get a good location plot and keep a budget of 18-20M for this since you'll be living here.
I'd still suggest to go for 25X40 in G-13 if 40X80 is out of your budget. Investment wise G-13 is far better than G-13. It is nearer to main Islamabad, doesn't have pockets of villages like G-14.
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:46 PM 

You can get a plot in D-12 in 15 Million though will have to compromise on location. Better to get a good location plot and keep a budget of 18-20M for this since you'll be living here.
I'd still suggest to go for 25X40 in G-13 if 40X80 is out of your budget. Investment wise G-13 is far better than G-14. It is nearer to main Islamabad, doesn't have pockets of villages like G-14.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 01:14 PM 

Thank you so much,

My Dad really enjoyed our conversation, We are now seriously thinking to put efforts to fetch some good option in D-12 and G13 side. Dad is more convinced on G14/3 and 2 to invest at this time, because development is going to start as per news in the media and he says we will get very good profit within 6 months time and he say G-13 is good but, now G-13 prices will not go too high as the G-14 is next to it and prices are still better in G-14/3. But, D-12 we are convined is the best option.
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 01:38 PM 

Cool then- Adios
ks replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 01:43 PM 

@Paaro, I too agree that instead of getting a larger plot (50 * 90) & compromising on location, buy a smaller plot 40 * 80 with better location; especially since you are thinking of buying two plots in 20 million budget. 40 * 80 costs around 12 to 16 million, depending on location in D-12, where as one kanal ranges from 15 - 20 million (I believe). In todays' day and age 40 * 80 is more than sufficient land to build a house for a large family. Remember you can build a basement to increase your living space.
Also to lower your expectation, I just want to reiterate that D-12 infrastructure is incomplete and if you visit there today, thinking it will look anything like Bahria development, you will be disappointed. I have sent you some pics in your email to give a 'flavor' of what it looks like today. You will need your 'vision' goggles ...
Good luck and don't forget to visit onsite BEFORE making any final decision. Islamabad is just 3 hour flight from Dubai.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 01:58 PM 

Akhter,
Adios, and mucha gracious, :)

Ks, D-12 is under development and yes we can't expect its looks like any other developed sector, I hope it will be developed in 1 year or at least better looks than pics you sent to me.

Do we have any idea or hope of this E-12 sector development, its location also seems good to me. Some one told my Dad about E-12, that if its development will be announced then E-12 will be best option for investment, but, for living D-12 is the best at this moment of time.....what do u say...?
JK replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 02:27 PM 

Good discussion and nice combo of D-12 and G-13. Best affordable sectors in real Islamabad
ZK replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 03:28 PM 

before you buy any thing , keep this thing in mind

in D-12 prices are already so much high ,no juice is left there prices will go up by only 25-30 %

while G-13 is new and still have potential. prices are expected to rise upto 40-50%.
once the new airport is functional(expected in 2013) the prices of g-13 will go up as it is more close to new airport than d-12.
dollarman replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 04:33 PM 

hmmm just wondering why no one has mentioned bahria enclave here??
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 04:43 PM 

I beleive their is no comparison of D-12 with G-13 or these enclaves, because of the location of D-12. Mr. Akhter was very right about D-12, and near future we can expect very good appreciation on D-12. If E-12 sector will be open then we can say the second option is E-12, but, at this time G-13 is 2nd option, although getting closer to airport is not very good, infact other countries land near to airports is cheaper than other lands around.

I just googled settelite view of D-12 and E-12 ...both are excellent. I wish if this E-12 get announcement soon, because prices are yet very cool in E-12, and its very close to heart of Islamabad, true Islamabad.... I love Islamabad...and my Pakistan
HeShe replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 05:19 PM 

Mr. Paaro you have done quite a research.
Paaro replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 07:32 PM 

Hi HeShe,
I am just 19, and I am very exited to have aplot in Islamabad as I really like Islamabad, I never liked Karachi before we shifted to Dubai. My dad is convinced now to buy plots in Islamabad, therefore I am trying to learn, I am not expert, please don't mind my writings, may be I am too exited and I should calm down.
Anyhow, we are trying to avoid mistake in making this investment in Islamabad. Rest all I am trying from here and there mostly from online research kind of thing. Please be cool and instead of criticizing give me good advise.

be cool
Akhter replied on Saturday, September 29, 2012 07:56 PM 

As the name implies, HeShe has bigger problems to worry about. Not that I'm against it or anything--just saying...
PoI replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 04:02 AM 

Dollarman, shouldn't it be obvious that Bahria Enclave isn't really in Islamabad when no one is mentioning it here.

All, note the fact that all big societies or small usually pick the land that is of no value to anyone (due lack of access, distance from main road etc..almost for free, then build an access road from the main road. This way only real cost is the development charges alone as land is almost negligible cost. Case in point, Bahria Town both Lahore and Islamabad, DHAI,DHA Valley etc.. Bahria Enclave is a classic example.
All is welll replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:32 AM 

@ PoI
Anybody who says that bahria enclave is not in islamabad has'nt visited the site, wait for one to two years and BE 10 marls plot will be touching 1 Crore.D 12 is far behind bahria enclave in terms of development.

All those people who have been criticising bahria enclave from begining should divorce real estate sector and find something else to think about as all thier predictions and observations have proved totally wrong. (unless you are a typical paki who wont accept his/her mistake and will continue to argue like a jahil person). I have sold 10 Marla plot in Phase 1 for 42 lac making profit of 10 lac.
That Ends Well replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:25 AM 

Brothers,

All is Well that Ends well...nice kutchi name
Kmc replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:43 AM 

Whether u buy or not but u generated a good discussion miss paro after a long time. Thanks for Ur name...haha
Paaro replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 02:38 PM 

Hi all,
After such a discussion, we got our mind fixed on D-12 and G14/3, we have almost selected plots to buy, let me share with u guys.

D-12/2 = 40x80 = Rs, 13,500,000, its a good plot
G-14/3 = 40x80 = Rs, 7,100,000, its also a good plot

The reason to select these plots is very simple.

D-12 locatoin and price for this plot is not bad to make our future home. I am sure in a year or two year timwe this plot will woth more than 16 to 17 million

G-14/3 40x80 is a good buy in a sense that development is just starting over in couple of weeks. Payment is already been made to NCL, construction company to start moving machinery in the sector. We are hoping we can sell same plot for Rs, 10 million after 1-1/2 year.

What do you say.....? thanks to all who encouraged me and this discussion. I will love to be part of all serious discussions. I am thinking I can join real estate after coming back to Pakistan next year.
ZNS replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 05:13 PM 

Go head with you decision, my Allah put blessing in your decision.
Kmc replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 05:38 PM 

Paro please generate a similar discussion for Lahore too, may be wit this amount u buy a plot in phase6 and 8 too...
Paaro replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 06:19 PM 

I really dont know much about Lahore, I have been there for once, but, not familiar with property issues. By the way how much is the price of plot of 1 Kanal and 10 Marla in DHA Phase-6 & 8,
Nadeem replied on Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:44 PM 

@ Paroo... u r saying that the development in G-14 will start soon, as per news. But please don't believe anything until things r really on ground. At least D-12 is on ground with possession, i m not sure but I think u can get possession right away. If u can get the possession of G-14 right now then buy it... even for investement point of view. How sure r u about the 100% acuracy of the news or will the CDA will start development of G-14, if not then ur investment will take many years to get u good return. Make decision on ur best knowledge of better do istakhara first.
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