‘Computerisation of land records to end corruption’
‘Computerisation of land records to end corruption’
LAHORE: Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif said on Sunday that the project of the computerisation of land records was of great importance and that after its completion, not only would the people be facilitated in obtaining revenue records, but they would also get rid of the patwari culture and corruption.
He said this while presiding over a meeting which reviewed the progress on the project of the Land Record Management and Information System. Members Provincial Assembly Khawaja Salman Rafiq, Syed Zaeem Hussain Qadri, Muhammad Shafiq, Rana Muhammad Afzal Khan, Rao Kashif Rahim Khan, the chief secretary, the planning and development chairman, the Board of Revenue senior member, the home secretary, the law secretary and other officers attended the meeting. Project Director Irfan Elahi informed the meeting about the pace of progress of the project.
Addressing the meeting, the chief minister said that fraud and forgery with regard to registration of properties would be eliminated through the computerisation of revenue records and that the people would be facilitated in obtaining the record of ownership of their land. Expressing his satisfaction over the progress of the last three months on the land records’ project, the chief minister lauded the efforts of the steering committee in this regard. He said that five service centres would start functioning in various districts, including Lahore, next month, which was a welcoming step. He said that due to the efforts of steering committee, more than Rs1.5 billion had been saved in the operational expenses of this project. He claimed that the scope of the project of computerisation of land records would be extended in all districts of the province under a phased programme.
Earlier, the project director said that the hardware of four service centres had been completed and that the process of obtaining human resources for these centres had also been completed while the process of recruitment of staff for eleven more centres was underway. The meeting was told that the website of the Land Record Management and Information System had been launched, through which citizens could obtain information about their ownership.
Rahim KSA replied on Monday, November 7, 2011 04:55 AM PST
Its good step by which one can get information thourgh internet if he is in abroad specially |
Khan replied on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 09:03 AM PST
I really don't think so. Imagine Chief Minister has a web page for complaints. I posted a very simple complaint. It has been over two years I have had no result. The complaint was simple: I wanted my house water meter to be fixed instead of being charged a flat rate.
I even followed up with WASA, Lahore. But it is what it is. They don't have meters,was the answer, when they will get it they will fix it.
I remember they computerized the car registration and renewal in Karachi. My friend bought a car in Karachi. After four years when he wanted to sell his car, he found out that all registration papers were fake and he had to pay penalty and what not. So we have great intellect and make all these improvement equal nothing. |
uae replied on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 07:22 PM PST
@khan
is a matlab hai kay kuch bhi improve karnay ki koshish na karo. hamesha statu quo mein hi raho. |
Khan replied on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 08:27 PM PST
Uae, Nice observation. I am not against improvements. All I say is go on with a steady speed and consolidate along the way.Take one step at a time. Just not import and transplant some thing from some where and thats about all. Even if you want new techno;logy, which you should, try to adapt it it to the local conditions. |
Muhammed replied on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:18 PM PST
It's not a matter of only adaption of new technology but to change the system. You will found everywhere Patwari even if you want a copy of so called computerized FARD. If he will not sign you can't get any FARD, you will only get if you pay him something under the table.
Corruption is on height even after computerizing the land records ... even worst. I still had a bad experience with this system.
Allah may help us all! |
Mirza replied on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:25 PM PST
Why does our institutions are dependent on one man?
In 2003, i sent email to the secretary of municipalities and requested for my birth certificate and it was delivered at my house within a week.
Such a service saved me an airticket from Europe valued approx. 1400$ and holidays from my work.
I wish Pakistan get backs to same position as it was in 2003. |
Khan replied on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 03:17 PM PST
Mr. Mirza, Sure bright spot are there even now. Once in a while you get service and response comparable or better than any where in the world. But that is far and few between.Some how these are individuals who give you such pleasant surprise. What should change is the system and that no one man or party can do.Be it any one. It should be started from one end and spread gradually without creating a hype. Instead talking about angles and devils we should treat all these persons as human beings with more shortcoming than virtues. So it is selecting best out of the worst and not the best from the best. We don't have bests or betters or good. We have worst,bad and less bad. |
Baba Ji replied on Thursday, November 10, 2011 02:06 PM PST
Just like Matric results they computerized ? Remember what chaos it created ? it would be a fiasco if "kissi ka plot mera and mera plot kissi ka" on computer !!!!
May Allah give our nation education and intelligence ... |
abc replied on Thursday, November 10, 2011 03:30 PM PST
Ultimately, computerization of land records is the answer. It is being utilized in the west very successfully. It will have flaws initially, but will get better with time. Same thing as Nadra ID card system, which they have done a superb job so far. Initially, it would be a challenge, but going forward with new societies that are being developed in an organised way, if done correctly, one could just go online and find out the ownership of a specific house or a plot with correct address. The Patwari may still be there, but sole reliance on him will go away with time, and less manipulation of records as a result. Just like when the first batch of computerised ID cards were issued, lots of people made duplicate ones just as a bad habbit. But when time came for renewal, their finger prints matched on duplicate records, and both cards were cancelled and non renewed. They are being fined between 10K to 25K with an affidavit of guilt and imprisonment in future before a renewal card is being issued. In short, a good step to start. |
Khan replied on Thursday, November 10, 2011 08:02 PM PST
No body is against improvements and computerization per Se.What is suggested is pick one sector let us say first in the urban area. Try it improve it and then expand it to other ares. Literacy level of masses will have to be kept in view. Can 60 yeas old baba Khairoo would know what he is holding in his hand, when some body gives him a piece of paper telling that it is FARD.
The discussions in open forum be encouraged and feed back taken before a plan is made. The governmental officials think they are the wisest guys and whatever they come out with should be accepted by all |