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DHA Quetta Files Prices Market Pulse ( Closing Rates For Today )

*DHA Quetta Files Prices Market Pulse* ( Closing Rates For Today )

1 Kanal Affidavit 45.00 Lacs
1 Kanal Allocation 43.00 Lacs
1 Kanal Early Bird 152 Lacs Very Rare Trading Buyer Or Seller Hard To Find

Lahore Delivery On Full Cash Payments. We Dont Buy Sell Our Own Files And Only Match Buyers' Sellers. After Many Days Of Rise, We Are Seeing More Sellers Than Buyers Now In Here.

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Wazz replied on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 09:57 PM PST 

This seems total sattay bazi here.

A well wisher Pakistani replied on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 10:00 PM PST 

Please convey a true massage to all your clients being as fair and sincere dealer of the market. Kuch din wait karlain yehi files dobara apne purane rate par aane wali hain. Take this screen shot than Wait and watch.

Shahzad replied on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 11:36 PM PST 

can't find the files below 46 lacs today, Lre staff did not convey the correct rates
Early Bird rate is also not correct as its around 175 lacs

Opinion replied on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 11:46 PM PST 

Dha Gujranwala file is too high around 92 lacs, DHA Multnomah around 72 lacs, Bahawalpur plots more then 60 lacs....we have have only available cheap option is DHA Quetta, it's still below 50...Definitely worth buying

Overseas Pakistani replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:21 AM PST 

Need to buy 1 kanal DHA Quetta file, what's the procedure to buy files form UAE.
Please guide Mujahid yaseen sb

alpha replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:51 AM PST 

I do not know if this is intentional - but at every Eid, the dealers start jacking up the prices for the Expatriates visiting Pakistan - this has been the case since last 10 years. CMY saab does the same

Well wisher replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 01:18 AM PST 

This is not the case Mr.Alpha, Cmy sb is a Gem of person, we buy this on his recommendation, Thank you CMY sab for your support, prices are still very much less then other DHAs, Its still a good choice for investment
Lahore Real Estate is authorized dealer and always support such good investments

Arhum arhum replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 01:30 AM PST 

Files everywhere have suddenly become expensive. Maybe because budget news was overly positive that's why but I don't see any other reason. Quetta and Bahawalpur still seem reasonable for investment but Gujranwala and Multan rates are through the roof.

Alpha, personally don't think CMY involves himself in such tactics, he discourages it in fact but maybe LRE dealers do it intentionally to raise their commissions. I don't think deals will take place at such high asking rates and rates will come down for sure because the expected overseas travelling will be negligible once again on Eid due to middle east travel bans continuing. The extended travel ban, I must admit, is ridiculous though. We have successfully contained corona and yet these countries aren't lifting the ban, seems like some fishy politics is at play.

Reality replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 01:35 AM PST 

Agree.. these high rates are fake (same as other DHA files). Hopefully, expatriates have gotten smarter and avoid these kind of gimmicks by so-called investors

DHA Quetta is several years away from ballot.. there will be lots of ups and downs.. its foolish to buy 1 kanal outside the 30-35 range..

Arhum arhum replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 01:38 AM PST 

Reality, agreed but generally when you buy files, you buy for long-term hold so you shouldn't mind buying Quetta files in 40+ range because you will be holding them till ballot and possession. File prices always go up and down, you can't predict how and when they will move. You'll be paying maybe slightly higher for those files but it is not like Gujranwala and Multan were I believe prices are overly jacked up.

KS replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 02:12 AM PST 

Always swim in water flow direction, not against it or not in stopped so similar rule for any market.
DHA-GWA now offering instalments plots + apartments on very high prices, rest prices have reached on higher side now. No time to invest until it takes deep correction. Big Investors have made money from here.
DHA-MTN prices reaching high side but little more room to go up, they will also be offering (instalments plots or villas/houses) end of the year.
DHA-QTA has room to move up but there is no news of dev. progress from their MGMT side so it can move down & up for next year or so.
DHA-BWP, it remained at bottom for last 3 years, much dev. progress has done, files+plots also gained 30-45% in last 30 days, still room to go up. Looks like investors group currently active here before they move to other city.
DHA-LHR (all phases), prices reaching high side but little more room to go up. Other societies have already increased 30-45% since IK announced construction package.
RED NOTE: Instalments (plots, houses, flats) are mostly offered in market by any DHA when Big investors have already taken project prices on higher side so that general public don't consider instalments offering prices on high side. Just sit back and think what happened in last 10-15 years.

Javaid John replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 02:33 AM PST 

I am watching Pakistan Real Estate Market since long time. Price gains in DHA Lahore, Gujranwala and Multan is more then 100% Now in just 6 months.

MY 2 cents for DHA Bahawalpur & DHA Quetta as they just gained way less then others as of now and its the logic to buy such less expensive things which are equally is good as others (DHA's)
Quetta is capital of balochistan just like Peshawar is capital of Kpk, If Its early bird file is around 160 then how will the other 1 kanal files be under 45 to 50 lacs(Logic). I see on DHa Quetta website and it seems early bird possession and balloting will be in this year maybe around November.
IF YOU can spend 75 to 95 lacs then go for DHA Multan and Gujranwala other wise no best choice then DHA Quetta or Bahwalpur under 5 million, which are equally good as Sole DHA projects

Budget is good and grab the cents before its too late..:)

Arhum arhum replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 03:51 AM PST 

Javaid, positive budget news is giving slight price gains everywhere. I'm seeing slight increase in prices in phase 7 and prism both in Lahore. But yes, Bahawalpur and Quetta DHAs have been underpromoted and valued for a while now. I still believe they are undervalued.

Omer replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:05 AM PST 

Humble suggestion is to stay away from Quetta till discovery of Water resources...

alpha replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 12:29 PM PST 

I agree Mr. Well Wisher. CMY saab is a gem. A month ago he mentioned in the market direction that places like Multan do not have the fundamentals to support price increases - however price in Multan increased. I think if everyone starts buying daffodils, there will be a run on daffodils and daffodils will be next best investment

Well wisher replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 01:54 PM PST 

Mr.Omer, I think water supply is not a big issue in DHA Quetta as they already signed contracts for water.
The price of 1 kanal files in this project is lucrative compared to other DHA's and societies...
Best option in this budget and soon the price gap may reduce

Omer replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 04:53 PM PST 

Dear WELL WISHER
there is no water as such contract is there for entire Quetta and Balochistan.. unfortunately no underground sustainable resource available. in Addition there is hardly any population to move to DHA Quetta...no Migratees too. unlike Multan Lahore Karachi Pindi and peshawar, where all Castes, races and ethnic people are accommodated.
Quetta will remain a limited attraction even if Water comes out from somehwere

Salman 777 replied on Thursday, July 8, 2021 05:27 PM PST 

Dear Omer, I have personally visited Quetta many times, Land is too expensive over there and 1 kanal plots in Quetta city and Quetta Cantt are more then 250 to 300 lacs. Local residants do have attraction in DHA Quetta as its still very cheap also there is no such society in entire Balochistan.
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dha rahber

dha rahber ballot is just 2 x weeks away. at one time CMY / LREwas a great supporter of the same in good old days. i honestly feel for people of lahore any investment outside lahore like multan or bahawalpur is no match to lahore. see rupee devaluation multan file on 45, 3 years back even if sold at 60 is at loss unless it matures and possession after 4 - 5 years..it may be 100 plus due to over supply as plots are in 1000s. in dha Peshawar plots are less and all kpk is a genuine buyer so prices have tripled in 1 year. dont expect same in others. if dha rahber commercial comes on defence road which is likely it will be best ever gain. has potential of doubling from present rates in less than 6 months. experts can comment

Zameen replied on Saturday, June 8, 2019 09:33 PM PST 

Will the commercial be balloted as well

Overseas Pakistani replied on Sunday, June 9, 2019 12:44 AM PST 

DHA Rahbar is a hot investment now a days as balloting is very near in this month , commercial files are touching 185 lacs and residential files also gaining price..let team and other dealers are praising DHA Multan only and trying to convince people that there is no other investment in Pakistan now... Even then DHA Rahber is gaining at a good pace and being located in Lahore will always be a way ahead..It is worth buying now a days..

ZF replied on Sunday, June 9, 2019 11:38 AM PST 

I tried to buy 5 Marla residential file. Before Eid but none were available. I hope now just almost 3 weeks some people would sell before ballot.
I have visit other phases of rahbar and some many beautiful home build there.
It's definitely worst investment. It's Lahore after all....

Habib replied on Monday, June 10, 2019 01:24 AM PST 

I don't think that creation of New Province have something to with DHA Multan Price. I am not very much convinced with idea of division based on "administration and Distance", In the Time where you can pay and get Pizza Delivered to your home in Multan staying in US, This all Logic of Slow administration because of Size or distance looks falsified exaggeration, This is only Political stunt, divide and rule, People are more receptive when you divide them.
Coming Back to DHA Multan, I Think it is Best Investment for Local People, People staying in Lahore or Karachi have other better Options, To me DHA Gujranwala have better Prospects than Multan if you talk of in long run.

Rahbar replied on Monday, June 10, 2019 01:31 PM PST 

4m commercial in Rehbar on ground plot in block M etc is 225lac.
File rates touching 185lac.
Does this make sense?
Defense road only rumors.
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Saturday, February 2, 2019 07:44 PM PST 

Whether you invest in " pakistanbanao" or any other profit schemes. This all is "INTEREST" SOOD and that is Haram. Better to do and promote business or invest in property. Every year around 8 to 9 billion USD invetsed in property that is HALAL whereas profit / SOOD of all kinds is prohibited in Islam.

Ahmed replied on Saturday, February 2, 2019 07:56 PM PST 

True,

Ahmed replied on Saturday, February 2, 2019 08:11 PM PST 

Yes Imran bhai it is haram in islam. Btw according to islam taking a picture or getting photographed is also haram, so you dont have a picture on your ID card or passport?
Lets not get into this discussion of halal or haram here it is a never ending very contextual question.

Thinker replied on Saturday, February 2, 2019 09:15 PM PST 

Hoarding something so a shortage is created and prices increase is also Haram, so buying a plot on which you dont intend to build a house, then you are creating a shortage for a genuine buyer and increasing the price for him. I think that is Haram too.

Imransheikh replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 12:22 AM PST 

@Ahmed , brother, there is no second opinion in Islam on Sood/Profit. !!! Clearly prohibited , all scholars are agreed on it.
Whereas ID and passport pic are today's requirement because of dishonesty of people and different School of thoughts available, some says Yes to pic and other says No !!!
@ Thinker, brother, it all depends on NIYYAT regarding hoarding, buying plots, increasing price deliberately, all our actions are related with NIYAT.I read and listed to many liberal and strict scholars everyone says that profit/SOOD is strictly forbidden in Islam, no second opinion.

Waseem® replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 01:16 AM PST 

@Ahmed,

Where in Quran it is written that taking a picture is Haram ? For interest it is clearly mentioned though.

Hasan replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 03:33 AM PST 

What ever you say. Our nation is unique. Till the real estate investment was fruitful, interest is haram etc. When property is doomed and there is option for high profit they will turn towards dollar certificates. No halal haram fatwa will work. All want profit. Where is it maximum. Period.

Imransheikh replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 03:51 AM PST 

@ Hasan , you are right , but Allah does not give Fatwa , He orders to keep yourself away from SOOD and so called profit.
In the presence of Quran and Sunnah, we don't need any kind of FATWA.

Profit replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 05:25 AM PST 

There is a difference between "Sood/Interest/Riba" and "Profit" so I would suggest that profit is very much halal so lets not mix up the two.

For example:
You build a house yourself and puts up the asking price of Rs. 100 no matter what might be the cost of building the house yet you have every right to ask Rs.100 or Rs.1000 or Rs.10000000 with a profit of 10% or 50% or 5000% because first of all you are not forcing anyone to buy your house therefore it is very much Halal, however if you have invented a life saving medicine and then put up a ridiculous amount of profit just to exploit the people as they cannot survive without having your medicine then its Haram.

So I believe it helps and secondly if someone can point out anything wrong in this would gladly love to know.

User_6006® replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 06:48 AM PST 

State ,Govts have different position thn indvidual.when state can give subsidies in hajj which jlis only applicable if people can afford thn how come state given policies can come under haram sood it should be call something else and its not like dealing with indviduals so national based scheme is not haram and people should help their beloved country under GOD.

ZB replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 10:30 AM PST 

Well said by Brother Imran Sheikh sb..... sood is haram in whatever form it is, clearly mentioned in Quran e Pak

Curious About Islamic Law replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 05:59 PM PST 

If "SOOD" is haram, then why Government of Pakistan paying 3 or 3.1 % interest to Saudi Arabia and why Saudi Arabia is taking "SOOD" ? I am talking about dollars we borrow from Saudi Arabia and UAE?

OVERSEAS replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 07:10 PM PST 

Sood is haram and there is no argument over it. It is haram under the same circumstances as prevailed 1500 years ago. i:e certain amount from an individual paid to other individual who is in need for certain period for returning with a fixed overhead+actual amount.
Above conditions seem different from today when I buy these PBC or I keep money in fixed
deposit in bank basis I am not dealing with an individual in need.... yani.......
"Mey kisi insan ki majboori sey faida nahi ley raha."
Instead I am dealing with institutions having all kind of bussiness experties.

However I stay in doubt on above.
Pls guide . Thanks

Imransheikh replied on Sunday, February 3, 2019 11:14 PM PST 

@ overseas
If I accept your justification by dealing and getting profit from there then SOOD becomes HALAL.
YEHI to Rona hai society ka that we all need profit with money without work . Buy commodity physically and get either profit or loss that is only HALAL with good NIYYAT

OVERSEAS replied on Monday, February 4, 2019 02:30 AM PST 

What about rent. ? . Instead keeping the money in bank deposit , one buys a house and give to individual for returning the same after fixed period alongwith fixed additional money as rent There is no selling of house on profit or loss and money as rent is being earned without work similar to profit paid by bank..

dxb replied on Monday, February 4, 2019 03:07 AM PST 

brother @overseas

your understanding has a basic missing element when it comes to sood.

If i buy 100 houses and give on rent then its pure islamic? why? because there is a physical entity (house) involved. I purchased a tangible asset and rented it out.

in this PBC certificate, I am handing over money to other party with no knowledge of how they are going to utilize it or how they will earn profit? we are not purchasing a physical/tangible asset.

its a money deposit scheme with promiss of more money returned in future. Purely unislamic
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Real estate taxation — a blessing or a curse?

Real estate taxation — a blessing or a curse?

The Finance Bill 2016 caught everyone by surprise in the real estate sector especially persons with black money and short term speculators. For them it is a nightmare that FBR can value the properties at fair market value which have taxation repercussions regarding source of investment and thereafter can levy Capital Gain Tax (CGT) if the asset is held for less than five years. The whole real estate market is in shock and statedly it has been learnt that in some major housing entities the business is almost at halt. There are visible signs for arranging strikes in some major cities in Pakistan but so far no defined agenda in terms of demand has been made public especially by real estate dealers association.

Interestingly, the here-say is that the two major amendments would discourage foreign remittance to Pakistan, which apparently is totally misplaced. The overseas Pakistanis, if they remit their money through normal banking channels per income tax ordinance 2001, are exempt from tax and the remitted money is treated purely “white”. In fact, previously when an overseas Pakistani with “white” money used to buy as asset and get it registered at Deputy Commission (DC) value he was willingly or unwillingly converting part of his “white” into “black” money.

As an example, an asset bought for PKR 10 Million and registered at a DC value of PKR 2.5 Million would transform an overseas person’s major chunk of money i.e. PKR 7.5 Million into “black”. This was totally undesirable but he had to follow the market practice by getting the sale purchase agreement registered at the DC value. The beneficiary was other party who in most of the cases did not have enough “white” money to complete the transaction. Therefore, the worry should be for people who have untaxed money but not the overseas Pakistanis who have, in fact, only “white” money.

Secondly, the capital gains tax has been levied @10% of the gain between sale and purchase price if the property is sold within five years of its purchase. This amendment is also geared towards curbing speculative trading which majority of the overseas Pakistanis do not intend to undertake due to their remoteness and investment strategy. Hence, practically it will not impact the overseas Pakistanis and even in case a 10% tax is paid on the gain, it should be acceptable considering the high tax rates on capital gains which they are bound to pay in most of the foreign countries of their residence, except for middle east.

The 10% tax slab is rational considering that on other business incomes, the applicable rate is around 35%. Hence the applicable rate is very well lower than the tax rate levied on normal business income. Conclusively, the overseas Pakistanis should consider these aforesaid changes in the tax statute as a blessing in disguise as it will allow them to properly make their declaration and let their “white” money remain “white” instead of being forced to convert it in to “black” money, under the older system. However, a piece of advice for overseas Pakistanis would be to at least stick to the below:

1) Use normal banking channels to remit their money into their bank accounts from overseas. Keep the relevant documents in their record for future purposes. The documents in order of precedence would proceed realization certificate issued by their Pakistani bank, bank statement from Pakistani bank and remittance receipt of overseas bank.

2) If you intend to purchase the property it should be with “white” money. The sale-purchase agreement should be on the fair market value of the property and not the DC vale. The agreement has to be signed by both parties and should not be left blank. If you are a filer, you can declare it, else keep it in safe record for future use.

3) In case you intend to sell a property, hold on till the dust is settled and the issue of capital gain is cleared. Else, the maximum you have to pay is 10% of the gain between fair market value and purchase price.

Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) remained helpless especially during last five years and was made to accept DC values owing to FBR’s own circulars wherein the aforesaid were binding. FBR tried to suggest changes in the statutes which included desperate measures including proposing to the government that FBR could acquire the property at 25% additional price compared to the registered price. But government rightly struck down these proposals as it could have created panic in the market. However, the recent amendment regarding fair market valuation and levying of capital gain if an asset exchanges hand within five years of its purchase merited consideration which the government approved through legislature. The implications of these two amendments are far reaching:

Fair Market Value: If the transactions would be registered at Fair Market Value, the seller would have to pay CGT (within five years of its purchase) and purchaser would have to produce “white” money to complete the transaction which will be an uphill task. Else, the tax implications, including levy of evasion penalties and additional tax, could eat up major portion of the market value of the asset under transaction. The measure would definitely discourage “black” money holders who were hiding their wealth in real assets.

Capital Gain Tax (CGT): The levy of CGT withholding period less than five years is an attempt to discourage speculative trading. Currently, speculative trading had resulted in creating artificial hike in prices, leaving it to be a mere dream for ordinary Pakistanis to build a house of their own.

Surprisingly, the real estate dealer associations have not yet come up with their official demand of charter. I even wonder what a rationale set of demand could be; do away with fair market value or abolishing the holding period of capital gains tax. Both of these do not hold merit for serious consideration in view of the fact that the provisions have been included to check “black” money and speculative trading. Hence, what could be the options at hand and what could be the possible outcomes:

1) Stay from Higher Courts: Apparently, there is no cogent reason as the bill has been passed by the National Assembly and the intention of legislature is clear – discourage black money holders and curtail speculative trading

2) Street Protests and Hold Off: Unless there is a genuine and rationale agenda, it will be difficult to muster supporters from ordinary citizens apart from the stakeholders which will be represented by real estate agents. The government may not be pressed for revenue loss due to halt in business considering their long term goal. Per daily Express clipping by Shahabaz Rana dated July 14, 2016 Naveed Zafar Ashfaq Jaffery & Co, a chartered accountancy firm has revealed that there is PKR 7,000 Billion of “black money” in the real estate sector. If taxed properly, there could be one time wind fall tax collection and recurring thereafter.

3) Negotiation with the Government: Apparently, this will be the desirable and best route forward. FBR is in a strong position and it is expected it will not budge with undue demands. There could be number of suggestion but I would suggest the following:

a) Tax Amnesty: Government has announced tax amnesty schemes a number of times in the past with the recent one for traders just few months back but the response has always been lukewarm. However, here the situation is different wherein noose is around the neck of tax evaders and it will primarily be at their request with only available and acceptable solution. It is expected that FBR will take advantage of the situation and will not offer amnesty at any rate lower than 10% of the amount to be made white. The aforesaid is the rate which FBR has normally used as a benchmark rate for amnesties declared during last few days. The impact of this would be enormous for the economy wherein huge amount of tax will be collected one time and then perennial collection based on the market value. In case we agree with the number quoted by Express Tribune then 10% of PKR 7,000 Billion would translate into PKR 700 Billion tax collection. It is important to mention that the current year collection of FBR was 3,104 Billion and hence it would translate into 22.6% of the tax collection for current year and even FBR would not have any issue in meeting Fiscal Year 2016-17 target, which is fixed at RS 3,621 Billion.

b) Capital Gain: Reducing the holding period from five to three years would be reasonable and acceptable to all the parties. Earlier, it was two years wherein after this period there would not be any liability under capital gains tax.

c) Giving Powers to FBR to Inquire the source of Foreign Remittance: The Protection of Economic Reforms Act 1992 debars FBR to request foreign exchange remitter to disclose the source i.e. who remitted the money and whether that person had the financial health to remit that money. The lack of these powers has in fact caused more damage to the FBR than any other restriction as it has robbed Pakistan of trillion of rupees in terms of tax collection ever since the act came into force. Practically, all sophisticated investors who are fully conversant with legal implication send their untaxed money through ”hawala” abroad and get it remitted to Pakistan statedly at less than 5%. This is a big loop hole in the system and has to be plugged immediately. It is odd to understand that if the remitter is genuine then he should not have any issue if his financial health is probed. But apparently, due to known reasons to everyone in terms of beneficiaries, none of the political government has ever shown willingness to give this power to FBR. In the instant case, if this power is not granted, even if amnesty scheme is declared and implemented, it will not meet set objectives. Just consider, if the rate for amnesty is 10% all sophisticated investors will be inclined to whiten their money at much reduced rate and hence exchequer will be robbed of the requisite revenue.

Conclusively, the changes in tax statute regarding real estate taxation is a blessing in disguise for the overseas Pakistanis who can do transactions with their “white” money freely and without any hassle. However, these measures are a nightmare for “black” money holders and speculative traders who had become used to having unprecedented gains in short time frames. The government and FBR has got a golden opportunity to set things right, and with the assistance of stakeholders, they can come up with a viable solution wherein a tax amnesty can be one of those. However, equally important is to make amendment in Protection of Economic Reforms Act 1992 by giving powers to FBR to probe the source of remittance to distinguish between genuine and “hawala” transactions.


A very well written article by LRE WhatsApp group member Aamir Ali sahib ( Abdal® here). Was shared by him in LRE Gulf group no 53 today. Please share in all groups you are a member .

Habib replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 03:00 PM PST 

I agree with the Post, Govt Just needed to tweak a little bit DC Rates especially in provinces other than Punjab where the DC rates were 10% of fair market price. But they mishandled the situation very badly at very critical time when real-estate sector was Consolidating its enormous "unhealthy" gains last year.
I see the situation in broader prospective, Less interest in NSC break of Confidence in real estate will result in Following negative Impacts
Foreign remittances will decrease as there is no other options for Overseas investors in Pakistan, This is very important Chunk of Trade balance and can result in fall of Pak rupee Value.

For Local investors, There will Capital Flight from Pakistan as Low interest Injection is Not going to transform in Industry due to Lack of facilities Lack of Market and Multiple hurdles in establishing industry.

The Net Tax revenue will decrease to about 1/3 of last year and Volume of Trade will fall to 1/5 of last year
Real-estate sector will take time to recover.
I Clearly see incompetence of Federal Govt making and implementing these decisions.

Abdal® replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 03:31 PM PST 

@ CMY. Thanks for posting my article on the web. Appreciated.

Would welcome a constructive discussion for my better understanding and for the forum members. Please note that I have purposefully not touched the issue of Valuation of Assets by State Bank and reduction in tax rates which are part and parcel of the matter under consideration and hopefully will take it up in the next article. The solution has to be coherent and equitable covering all the angles as partial solution will be a disaster and will only benefit few.

Abdal® replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 03:43 PM PST 

@ Habib. Not sure but DC rates are issued by provincial governments which may have divergent interests. Like giving compensation for land acquisition etc and may not be interested in bringing it close to the market rate. Secondly, due to globally depressed markets, money laundering laws and terrorism financing it is not that much easy for ordinary Pakistani to take his capital outside the country and have security and return which he enjoys in Pakistan. For already outside Pakistanis apart from Canada there does not seem to be really attractive real estate investment at this point in time and due to globally backlash against muslims, a person with white money would still prefer the home land. FBR and Government strategy to me is to start with big and may be settle in the middle. However, I am still not clear whether the valuation will be implemented across the board or on selective basis. However, I am positive that the eventual settlement would be good for all the stakeholders which includes our beloved country as this confusion cannot be prolonged. However, I hope the solution is a permanent one bringing stability and gradual growth to the market. These are just views which you may totally disagree.

Abdal® replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 03:45 PM PST 

@CMY. Thanks for posting the above article written by me. Appreciated.

Akhtar KSA® replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 03:45 PM PST 

Dear Brother CMY,

Please advise about TAX return & property disclosure for overseas Pakistanis, how to do it and any good TAX consultant may be utilize to file the returns?

Any Brother can also advise about the above please

naveed replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 03:55 PM PST 

Very good article to kill rumors and to guide and educate investors investing white money

User_11472® replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 03:56 PM PST 

Very good article to kill rumors and to guide and educate investors investing white money

MJM Dammam replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 05:50 PM PST 

@Akhtar KSA - please try:-
Farid Adil Choudhry
Tax Consultant
23-Temple Road, Lahore
Mob. e-mail:

Qamar replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 06:19 PM PST 

A big article just to explain why govt. did this move. But the question is what shall be the impact on sector. Strangely trading with white money is best but at the same time most hurting for gains. If FBR shall remain stick to market valuation for property trade, the whole sector will collapse and white money guys will sit on their white money for years without gain. I am not against the step to white the few hunder billions in real estate but this should be gradually planned at least on 5 years - not a HUGE SUDDEN JERK......

M Arshad Ali® replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 08:00 PM PST 

What Govt has done is that it applied an emergency brake on a car running at the speed of 200 km/hr.Although it was necessary to stop the car but unable to understand why emergency brakes applied to stop it.

M Zahid® replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 08:48 PM PST 

Those of you who thinks this issue will be resolved in favour of real estate market favour are living in fools paradise. Because this was identified by IMF and is highlighted in IMF 8th review. Here is the excerpt.


"To this end, the Federal Government will encourage provinces to modernize agriculture / real estate taxation and to develop a strategy to identify mis-declarations in this area, and to establish a centralised electronic cadastre to better record transactions and assess real estate tax for each property based on periodically updated market valuation."

This was identified in 8th review October 2015 and now Pakistan is on 11th review. During this period govt was vigorously pursued to implement this which resulted in Finance Bill 2016. FBR market evaluation will not go away but percentage will be played.
Also property market is under the knife and will be sliced periodically to satisfy and guarantee IMF returns as well as govt's tax hunger.

Shahzad replied on Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:03 PM PST 

Who will get benefit from newely proposed tax system,it should be revert back to previous system as it was till June 16 as soon as possible ...nobody will get benefits from this newly imposed huge taxes,in that way buying/selling will be reduced to 25% only compared to last year & tax collection will be quite less than previous year,investors will not earn reasonable profits neither govt will be able to achieve their targets,coming to so called hot topic about recovery of black money,people with black money also already have paid taxes applicable at that time during their buying/sellings,so how does government identify the specific people in huge real Estate market of genuine people as well ..people having black money should be questioned about their source of money before buying not after buying...big money from pakistan will be exported to other countries and offshore companies if it is implemented...
Coming to the solution/suggestions,already people were paying handsome amount on purchase of properties i-e if anyone bought 1 kanal plot in DHA for 150 lacs,almost more then 3 lac were taxes to be paid before buying..
Also tax amount should be on DC rates in private or cooperative socities as these societies buy open land on DC rates and develop the land with their own sources/funds & with collection of development charges from their customers and then there is price appreciation & govt taxes money/funds not used for development in these societies

Coming to the solution/suggestions
1-previous system should be implemented again with some revisions of DC rates

2-just like buyers/sellers pay 1% commission to dealer, flat 2 to 3% or reasonable % tax could be paid to govt

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Wednesday, July 20, 2016 11:48 AM PST 

@Shahzad
You have valid points and good solutions/suggestions.
We all agreed that with the new system in place, the tax collection will be less as buying/selling will be reduced to 25% or even more.
In my opinion, it seems government doesn't mind reduced tax collection. In-fact they want to collect less tax from real estate as compared to they received in previous years. They just want less transactions/discourage people to invest in real estate. The objective seems to shift the investment from real estate to factories, business etc to stimulate the growth. I don't think this idea will work.
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