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(75186)
Monday, July 25, 2016 06:23 PM PST 

Salam to all,

Dear LRE and all experts,

Plaese assess the value of ph.7/x/1460/1, 2kanal.
Should we keep or to sell to go to some better growing phase? And which one?

Thanks & regards,

Rana

Hassan Raza replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 07:21 PM PST 

Dear Rana Sb,

Current value near X 1460/1 is around 225 lacs

Hassan Raza
+923028449766
Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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(75185)
Monday, July 25, 2016 05:45 PM PST 

Aoa, dear LRE team, pls tell me the price of my 1 kanal plot in dha phase 9 prism N block near 615. Pls tell me is N block will be good in future because of oval complex in this block. Thanks

Aseem replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 10:51 PM PST 

In my humble opinion,its a prime
location plot and worth holding for long term...regards...
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(75182)
Monday, July 25, 2016 03:06 PM PST 
Plot Evaluation Prism R-1099

Dear LRE Team,

It is requested to kindly evaluate the price of the following plot


Dha 9 Prism
Plot no. R-1099


And also let me know when is the good time to sell it and buy 10 marla in the same phase. I.e DHA prism 9 .

Thankyou
Best Regards

Asim Irfan replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 04:56 PM PST 

Dear Shahwaiz Sb,


Current value near R 1099 is around 35 to 36 lacs ( 2 paid )

Asim Irfan
+923224003475
Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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(75180)
Monday, July 25, 2016 03:03 PM PST 

Evaluation Required Prism
Please Estimate Current Value of zone 2 92

thanks
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(75179)
Monday, July 25, 2016 12:32 PM PST 

Many reserve names errors were noticed recently. S trying to check the reason for errors. If getting error please inform.

At this time checked few names and they are working fine. Due to sever rain storms here recently internet connection is not very stable for server and possible to have data disturbance.

Flex01® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 01:33 PM PST 

i was getting error posting yesterday

User_19581® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 02:20 PM PST 

Me too for last two weeks getting error

ButtSaab® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 02:27 PM PST 

I also cannot start a new post, can only comment under a post.

I get advertisement error.
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(75178)
Monday, July 25, 2016 12:00 PM PST 

Post:



I really appreciate fast successful meetings our FBR Team, Mr. Haroon Akhter and Minister for current Tax Policy. Why did not this respected management utilizing goby from other countries like Europe, Australia, USA or Canada. Currently the discussion concludes that Black Money (OVERSEAS HALAL EARING) becoming issue day by day and it will effect drastically to Overseas Pakistani. A small change in system can resolve many issues and will give best conversion and usage of “WHITE MONEY”



I will feeling itchy and uncomfortable by giving the example of India our neighbor where all overseas Indian have one NRIs (Non Residence Indian) account (NRE), which is using very efficiently and effectively in-country and no BLACK and WHITE concept for overseas workers. Our Management can take other country best goby.



Non Residence Overseas account lets Overseas Pakistani transfer Our earnings to Pakistan conveniently with complete security in “WHITE” mode.

Features & Benefits: (1.) Free transfers of funds freely between Pakistan and abroad. (2.) Pay ZERO tax on the interest earned on your Non Residence Account in Pakistan

Accessibility: (1.) Withdraw cash easily and shop worldwide with International Debit Card. (2.) Appoint a mandate to operate your account for you

Managing your account: (1.) Transfer your funds freely to any place outside Pakistan. (2.) Conduct transactions securely online, 24x7 with Net Banking . (3.) Other benefits of Pay utility bills, Cheque books, sage deposit lockers same typical.



To transfer money to your NR Overseas account, we can: (1.) Transfer funds from abroad in a freely convertible foreign currency (2.) Present foreign currency notes / traveler’s cheques brought in by us on your visit to Pakistan. (3.) Directly remit the amount to Pakistan bank from your overseas bank account. (4.) Transfer funds from an existing Non Residence Overseas Account held in other banks in Pakistan.



Now when one overseas will use this amount purchasing the property by paying from his overseas account the money will be always WHITE and no need to worry to overseas employee as well as FBR. It will save a lot of time and work very professionally.



Best Regards,



Rehan Ahmad

Habib replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 12:32 PM PST 

I 100% agree with Rana, there should be NRP account Like in India NRI account, It works like Legal off Shore account and helps that Country,
Honestly I have to transfer money in Pakistan from UAE but looking for Off Shore account as I don't know where my Kids Need this Money In future, UK Canada or Somewhere else. From Pakistani account it is difficult to transfer Money out though not impossible,
I will appreciate if Govt can establish NRP account of same or even more functionality than NRI account. It will be a great help for overseas people and Pakistan itself.
Already Govt initiative for Pakistan origin Card have helped a Lot many overseas Pakistanis, They can still fell they are in Home and buy property and Come anytime when they want.
I will ask Forum Members if they have experience in transferring Money out of Pakistan from Foreign Currency Account, what are the regulations? and How lengthy is Process?.

Arif M® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 02:35 PM PST 

Good points. But this is PMLN'S Pakistan that is run by businessmen. Unlike India where Politicians run the country. Not businessmen.

Dude replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 05:02 PM PST 

I think, a good businessman can be a good politician as well, and I don't see any problem in PML (N) regime's being business entity. I also have no problem if India's business community didn't get any opportunity to get into politics or rule their country. Being a common man having no political affiliation with any one in any context, I believe, good job done by anyone must be acknowledged and criticism for the sake of criticism is no criticism, therefore, must be avoided.

Arif M® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 05:39 PM PST 

A good businessmen will ALWAYS keep his own business interests at top. and that is what Nawaz is doing. Sacrificing country on his personal business interests. With India, KSA and Turkey. Whereas our Finance minister Ishaq Dar has business interests in Dubai real estate. When you elect businessmen to rule you then you get sudden change in policies just 2 days before budget approval (policies kept secret again to safeguard their own business interests.) If we go back to Nintees we know that same businessmen rulers made special laws for for 2-3 days just so can take advantage of them. Thats what you get with businessmen rulers.

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 06:04 PM PST 

Asad Kkaral on THALKA TV reporting that current property taxes are part of specific planning. Read details here.

http://tehlka.tv/ur/2016/07/17/%D9%BE%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%81-%D9%84%DB%8C%DA%A9%D8%B3-%D9%86%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%8C%D8%B2%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C-%D8%AE%D9%81%DB%8C%DB%81-%DA%88%DB%8C%D9%84-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%B1/

FAA.awan replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 07:20 PM PST 

It is dirty politics by Nawaz league .Nawaz and party are taking revenge from real estate investors.Nawaz league is a dull and narrow minded party.Do n't worry they have failed ,at last property business will be a winner.
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(75175)
Monday, July 25, 2016 01:16 AM PST 
A question to ponder!

It is being said that the Govt. and Real Estate representatives are negotiating a deal to save the real estate sector, but I think the currently available information suggests that the RE Reps are ignoring a major factor that would be more harmful for Real Estate business in the short and long term

As it seems, there will be an agreed "Fair Market Value" on the conclusion of negotiations, which will be declared as DC Rate.

It means that an investor will have to pay 5% (3% Stamp Duty + 2% CVT) on DC (Fair Market) Rate at the time of purchase, and 2% Withholding Tax at the time of sale of a Plot.

In addition, investor will also pay 1% commission at the time of Purchase, and 1% commission at the time of sale of the same plot.

Moreover, about 1% Transfer Fee/Documentation Charges for the transfer of the same plot will also be paid by the investor.

This means that an investor will have to pay about 10% of Fair Market value (3+2+2+1+1+1 %) on a single plot investment/deal. It means that an investor will not be able to sell a plot until he covers these 10% extra charges.

Such a scenario is bound to damage the real estate market until the percentage of Stamp Duty, CVT, and Withholding Tax is not reduced reciprocally in accordance with the increase in DC Rate.

For example, the currently announced DC Rate of DHA Phase 9 Prism is 30 Lac per Kanal. But if the DC Rate is increased to say 100 Lac (approximate Fair Market Value) per Kanal, then the Stamp Duty + CVT + Withholding Tax (3+2+2 = 7%) will increase from Rs. 210000 (at current rate) to Rs. 700000.

This situation will sharply reduce the number of transactions. So I believe that the Real Estate representatives must take up this matter on top priority, rather than just focusing on Amnesty for Source of Income that perhaps will benefit only the major players in the business rather than the real estate business in general.

Hafiz replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 02:57 AM PST 

Hmmmm good observation bokhari sb . But right now 210000 on 30 lac is around 7% old rates . Then whats the difference when it goes to 1 crore ??? Kindly check please . Thanks

Abdal® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 03:09 AM PST 

Fair Market Tables will be developed and agreed separately. DC Rate Tables which is the domain of provincial government will stay separate. CVT and Stamp Duty being provincial taxes are calculated based on DC Rate Tables and effective July 1, 2016 DC rate is binding for the aforesaid provincial taxes. For Filers, effectively the impact of Advance Tax of 1% on Seller and 2% on Buyer will be calculated on Fair Market Value will be NIL as these are adjustable. However, for Non Filer it will be a big impact i.e. 2% on Seller and 4% on Purchaser of Fair Market Value as for him it will be non adjustable unless he becomes a filer; apparently the intention is to increase the cost of doing business for Non Filers. Hope it clarifies.

Tahir Islam Bokhari replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 03:27 PM PST 

HafI Sb, 7% of 1 Crore will be 700000 at new rates.

Abdal Sb, It will be unrealistic to have two rates: 1) DC Rate 2) Fair Market Rate, because once you declared to have purchased a plot at DC Rate, you will have to pay 10% Gain Tax on the difference between DC Rate and Fair Market Rate at the time of sale, which will again be a huge amount.
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(75174)
Sunday, July 24, 2016 07:54 PM PST 
Valuation

What is the market value of T 782 phase 8 Dha?
Regards
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(75173)
Sunday, July 24, 2016 05:35 PM PST 
Want to Invest RS. 4.2 Million for 3 years

Dear LRE,

I am overseas Pakistani and coming Lahore in first week of Aug. 2016. I want to invest Rs. 4.2 Million for next 2 -3 years. Please advise good options in 5, 8 or 10 Marla plots that give me good profit.

Also advise which area is best for investment ?

Thanks
Z.Ali
Saudi Arabia

humayun replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 05:50 PM PST 

Dha rahbar 5 marla.

Naveed@786® replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 06:19 PM PST 

Raiwind Road Societies is the best option espacially Bahria Orchard lahore.

Usman® replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 08:12 PM PST 

Buy one kanal file of multan DHA

Lucky® replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 09:10 PM PST 

Priorities

1-
DHA multan 1 kanal file allocation.
2- DHA multan installment plan files if available once you are here. (Everbody is waiting for this opportunity)
3- DHA town 9 file or Prism R block 5 Marla

Regards
Faisal

Arif M® replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 03:18 AM PST 

1. Let the dust settle after new taxes and Let the market take clear direction (up or down)
2.
Files and plots far-away from possession might be little risky but they can give higher return (if market direction remains positive)
3. On ground plots or near possession will be safe but will give lesser return
4. Try to find options that are not overpriced and have good margin to groom
5. DHA Multan, SuiGas2, are good and still lot of room for growth.

FK replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 01:53 PM PST 

If you are looking to invest for 2-3 years then
DHA Multan one kanal file is the best option. When you will be here in Pakistan the file rates for DHA will be very low because its launching was expected on 24th July but it has been delayed to January 2017 aprox. So you can buy the file on low rates and retain in for 2-3 years to get benefits.

Abu Muhammad replied on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 01:23 AM PST 

Dear FK,

Your analysis was spot on, Regarding both July and August False announcement of DHA Multtan, Please advise what is the best time and rate now to buy
DHA Multan File?

Thanks
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(75172)
Sunday, July 24, 2016 02:44 PM PST 
Advise

Dear Brothers. I am overseas (middle east) and living with family abroad. I have plots Phase 7 Q (near 212 & 800).

Kindly advise shall I start construction on Ph7 plot (which one shall I construct, near Q212 or Q800?).
Who is good designer and contractor?).
OR
Buy 10 Marla, 14Marla, 1Kanal house in Defense Raya (for security reason).

I hope I will get good and kind advise.

Please advise

Ali replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 03:06 PM PST 

I would say you should start construction on phase 7 plot. There are more security issues now in GCC/middle-east than in Lahore. So no need to go for Raya.

User_9325® replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 03:17 PM PST 

if security is primary concern then go for raya. but if yu want more growth price wise then phase 7 is better. but Dha phases are open from all sides with no entry/ exit check points. plus phase 7 has got many villages which can serve as hide outs for robbers. also Q block is nearby barki road which will also be a concern as people can easily flee after a robbery etc. dont mean to scare you but had a personal experience of robbery at my house during day light in DHA (and our house is infront of a water tank which has some DHA offices also and 24/7 security guard sits on the gate of that water tank)

Flex01® replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 03:56 PM PST 

Raya construction quality is not good. Strongly suggest to construct one in Q . Do idea which plot is better
location wise for construction.

Ibrahimdxb replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 04:18 PM PST 

Q-212 approach is more better than Q-800 but Masjid and sector shops are more near to Q-800, so if you pray regularly then Q-800 is better option. decision is yours,

FAA.awan replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 06:35 AM PST 

Bahria town projects are the best for security and maintaince point of view,they are matchless in pakistan.
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(75171)
Sunday, July 24, 2016 02:10 PM PST 

Salam:

I am not able to post a reply to post # 84518 so trying to post here:

In Australia, u will get the benefit of leverage i.e by paying AUD 175 k, u will own property of 700,000/Though u will incur interest expense, but however u will be having equity in each year, by paying part of EMI towards principal repayment. ( i have not accounted for any capital gains in this)
However, as mentioned by Jameel Mughal, Pakistan property has its own capital gains charm. If I were you, i will diversify to hold at least one property in AUD, if i do not have any RE in Australia.
Jameel Sb:
Pls comment on leveraging and buying a property In Dubai via bank financing. is it worth it in current scenario with low Dubai RE prices? Thanks (Asking this as nowadays, I am confused whether to invest AED 300,000 in Pak RE or In Dubai. Thanks

Ahg replied on Monday, July 25, 2016 02:13 AM PST 

Security situation of whole region prohibits any forseeable property growth in dubai... with syria iraq and yemen up in flames, and terrorist already making way into saudia... oil
prices will stay below 50 usd / barrel due to frackling / iranian oil dumping...

Dubai prices should fall further...

Uk can also be very volatile after brexit...

Australia is stable...but not much capital gain i persume like USA since they are a huge country... but choice i agree comes down ultimately to life choices... there us no clear winners here
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(75170)
Sunday, July 24, 2016 01:09 PM PST 
Real estate set to win biggest tax amnesty

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1146857/real-estate-set-win-biggest-tax-amnesty/


ISLAMABAD:
The government on Thursday agreed, in principle, to offer the biggest ever tax amnesty scheme in the country’s history, which will whiten a whopping Rs7 trillion untaxed and black money currently stashed in the real estate sector

Finance Minister Ishaq Dar and representatives of the real estate sector discussed the broader contours of the amnesty scheme, which will be implemented by either promulgating a presidential ordinance or introducing a bill in parliament, said a government official. It was the third round of talks in last four days.

Taxing real estate: Govt forms body to address concerns of property dealers

After the talks, Dar told media that the next meeting will be held on Wednesday in which real estate sector representatives and FBR officials will share their respective property valuation rates. “On Wednesday, the two parties will reach a consensus as things are going towards positive direction,” he said.

Real estate sector representatives would bring their own property valuation rates of 18 main cities and FBR officials will share their rates. On the basis of both the rates, valuers will work out ‘consensus rates’. These determinations then will become the base for giving amnesty on past transactions and calculating taxes on future transactions, said the officials.

Dar ducked three repeated questions on whether the government was going to give another tax amnesty scheme and left the venue. It will be the tenth amnesty scheme in the history of the country and the third of the PML-N government in last as many years. The government’s last tax amnesty scheme to traders miserably failed, as it could bring in only 9,090 traders in the net against the claim of over one million.

The need for the tax amnesty scheme arose after the government brought legal changes to determine fair market value of the properties by amending Income Tax Ordinance through Finance Act 2016. However, a move that was initially aimed at capturing actual income gains from the property transactions would end up whitening about Rs7 trillion untaxed and black money currently parked in the real estate sector.

Real estate sector, govt close to breakthrough on controversial tax decisions

The ill-conceived changes in the tax law immediately created two problems, putting a question mark over trillions of rupees transactions carried out till June 30 and the fair market value of the future transactions, said a senior government official who attended the negotiations.

A government official told The Express Tribune that it has been decided that the government would not ask the source of income of the past transactions from investors.

Abdul Rauf Alam, President Federation of Pakistan Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FPCCI), said that this issue was not only the issue of real estate and builders associations but it was the issue of every businessperson, industrialist, importer, exporter and bureaucrat.

Since the beneficiaries of the schemes are from all segments of society, the scheme is expected to pass through all the legal obstacles, said FBR officials.

“The big players in speculative business in real estate and capital markets are the beneficiaries of policies of appeasement,” said eminent tax expert Dr Ikramul Haq. He said these big players, in between politicians and corrupt bureaucrats, get their share courtesy a few leading tax experts who in connivance with some stalwart in FBR provide support to tax evaders. Haq added that the whitening of assets by compromise is a great fraud depriving the country of trillions of rupees in taxes.

According to the broader contours of the likely amnesty scheme the government would settle the past property transactions by charging a fixed tax of 4% to 5% of the price differential between the deputy collector rates and the new rates, which will be determined by next week.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 22nd, 2016.

Habib replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 02:20 PM PST 

Congratulations, This was Only workable solution. I will advise forum members once this bill is passed they should Act ASAP to file Tax returns, When Govt was already charging CVT, stamp WHT and Advanced Income Tax, there was no provision for such action.
The Only hitch was the clause the past Pay CVT stamp etc on DC rate or Sale deed "WHAT EVER IS MORE" People have been paying blindly @ DC Rates and there was No objection.
Now another clarification will come soon, After this amenity the Gain Tax Collection mechanism will also need revision. That will also Come up as 2,3% of fair market price at time of sale to seller which is Fair and acceptable.

Muhammad Asif® replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 05:51 PM PST 

4% to 5% on differential is ok, but will they not ask for source of funds?

Thanks

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Sunday, July 24, 2016 09:26 PM PST 

Pakistan's external debts crossed $75b figure. Ultimately inflation will raise and PKR will fall further against $. GOVT had no choice but to impose taxes as they also intends to spend all reserves before elections. But new property taxes will be a cause of flight of money too. In fact these unplanned taxes are nightmare for Pakistan same way GOVT seized forign currency accounts in 1998. Now even GOVT reverse this decision but damage has been done.
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