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Saturday, July 2, 2016 07:40 AM PST 
Clarification by a senior FBR officer friend

It was sent to me by a FBR officer friend on my WhatsApp


I would like to clarify the misconceptions about the changes in property taxation


1. The withholding taxes collected on property transactions will be on the basis of the registered value and not on the basis of fair market value which according to the recent change in law will be determined by the valuers to be notified by the State Bank.



2. Property registration and recording transactions thereof is the domain of the provincial governments and the federal government has no role in that.



3. Individual cases shall be referred to the valuers for determining the fair market value not for collection of transaction taxes referred in the above post but for determining the sources of investment made by the purchaser. When a person makes an investment he is required under the Income Tax law to prove that he has available with him sufficient declared funds on which he has paid due tax at the time of earning the income from which the surplus is being invested. If the purchaser can not explain the investment from known (taxed) sources the amount invested by him is treated as his income and subjected to tax and penalty. When a person understated the quantum of his investment he is required to explain the sources of the declared investment and not the actual amount. This then becomes an easy way of gising un taxed money.


4. The proposal for determination of fair market value through independent valuers is meant to plug this loophole that promotes tax evasion and provides a mechanism for parking un taxed money.


5. It also needs to be understood that it is in the interest of the seller to declare the actual price received because he will have white money available with him that he can use subsequently to explain any investment or expenditure made by him. Receiving underhand amounts make the seller fall in the vicious circle of trying to understate his investments and expenditure too.


6. This proposal was put forward by FBR and met stiff opposition from the politicians and business people because it has the potential to improve our tax system and contribute towards increase in our revenues.
8. The expatriates have no problem regarding explaining the sources of their investment provided they have remitted the amount through normal banking channels and the change in law will not reduce their appetite for investment in real estate.
8. The detailed procedure and mechanism of how the system will work is still to be issued.
I have tried to explain in simple words a complicated subject and I am available if any friend needs any further clarification

Salman.A® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 07:53 AM PST 

How will SBP evaluate the property is the main question and at what rates..... This will determine the market direction.

Secondly increase in CGT from 2 to 5 years and double cvt stamp duty on evaluated price will increase the cost of sale and purchase.

In the end we will be paying double taxes than last fiscal year. And how it effects the property market ? Only time will tell.

CRASH is not on the cards but correction is certainly going to happen. Healthy correction for few months and then steady increase according to the development will bode well for the market in the long run.

Let's hope for the best and wait for the detailed procedure and mechanism

Maztek ( Plz Register) replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:59 AM PST 

Yes salman sahib, your assessment is absolutely to the point. Any type of formula issued by the Govt will make an initial "to and fro" movements in the estate market and after some time the things will settle down, since we get used to each and every law imposed, adjusting to the prevailing environment, of course with some adjustments here and there.

But in the process Govt will succeed in increasing revenue.....a healthy indicator for we all as Pakistani.

MIT® replied on Sunday, July 3, 2016 11:47 AM PST 

CMY thanks for sharing, but how FBR notified it to be effective from 1st July 2016 while "the detailed procedure and mechanism of how the system will work is still to be issued"? creating panic & confusion purposely for some 'hidden' motives.
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 06:18 AM PST 
DHA Lahore Phase 8 Prices Update June 30th 2016

*DHA Lahore Phase 8 Prices Update June 30th 2016 (Before Tax Imposed)*
(All plots prices are with development charges included)

*S Block*
1 Kanal 150 To 200 Lacs

*T Block*
1 Kanal 180 To 270 Lacs
2 Kanal 500 To 580 Lacs

*U Block*
1 Kanal 150 To 275 Lacs

*V Block*
1 Kanal 150 To 280 Lacs

*W Block*
1 Kanal 250 To 315 Lacs
2 Kanal 600 To 650 Lacs

*X Block*
1 Kanal 150 To 225 Lacs

2 kanal 525 To 600 Lacs

*Y Block*
5 Marla 53 To 65 Lacs
10 Marla 90 To 105 Lacs
1 Kanal 125 To 175 Lacs

*Broadway Commercial*
4 Marla 325 To 500 Lacs
8 Marla 650 1600 Lacs

*DHA Lahore Phase 8 Proper Commercial Plots*
CCA1 4 Marla 600 To 800 Lacs
CCA2 4 Marla 650 To 750 Lacs


*Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)*
Lahore Real Estate
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Resident replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 08:37 PM PST 

WoW the rates around 315 lac in phase 8 even before possession show in 2-3 yrs time when there r a few houses constructed, kanal plot will be trading above 4 crores.

Phase 8 rocks as always.

Junaid® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:57 PM PST 

Phase 8 will be the first phase in
DHA Lahore to cross 4 crore barrier Insha ALLAH :)
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 06:05 AM PST 
DHA Rahbar Sector Lahore Prices Update June 30th 2016

*DHA Rahbar Sector Lahore Prices Update June 30th 2016 (Before Tax Imposed)*
(All plots prices are with development charges included)

*Rahbar Phase 1*

*1 Kanal*
140 to165 Lacs

*10 Marla*
90 to 105 Lacs

*8 Marla*
75 to 85 Lacs

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*DHA Rahber Phase 2*

*5 Marla*
40 to 60 Lacs

*Files Rates without Development Charges*
5 Marla Residential 31 Lacs
4 Marla Commercial 220 Lacs


*Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)*
Lahore Real Estate
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 05:58 AM PST 
DHA Town Lahore Prices Update June 30th 2016

*DHA Town Lahore Prices Update June 30th 2016 (Before Tax Imposed)*
(All plots prices are with development charges included)

*A Block 5 Marla*
50 Lacs to 62 Lacs

*A Block 10 Marla*
95 Lacs to 110 Lacs

*B Block 5 Marla*
50 Lacs to 60 Lacs

*C Block 5 Marla*
52 Lacs to 65 Lacs

*D Block 5 Marla*
49 Lacs to 58 Lacs

*A Block 8 Marla*
75 Lacs to 87 Lacs

*C Block 8 Marla*
76 Lacs to 86 Lacs

*D Block 8 Marla*
75 Lacs to 95 Lacs

*D Block 10 Marla*
95 Lacs to 105 Lacs

*DHA Town Commercial*
4 Marla (342 Lacs)
8 Marla (625 Lacs)

*Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)*
Lahore Real Estate
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 05:45 AM PST 
DHA Lahore Phase 8 Z Block Ivy Green Prices Update

*DHA Lahore Phase 8 Z Block Ivy Green Prices Update June 30th 2016 (Before Tax Imposed)*
(All plots prices are with 1 installment paid for civil development charges)

*Block-Z1*
1-K: 105 to 120 Lacs
10-M: 55 lac to 65 Lacs

*Bock-Z2*
1-K: 105 to 125 Lacs
2-K: 220 to 240 Lacs

*Block-Z3*
10-M: 60 to 75 Lacs
5-marla: 34 to 40 Lacs

*Block-Z4*
1-K: 110 to 125Lacs
10-M: 60 to 70 Lacs
5-M: 35 to 40 Lacs

*Block-Z5*
10-M: 62 to 72 Lacs
7-M: 70 to 75 Lacs
5-M: 28 to 38

*Block-Z6*
1-K: 110 to 130 Lacs
10-M: 65 to 80 Lacs

*Army Quota 5 Marla*
DHA Letter : 38 to 46 Lacs
NOC Plots (All Dues Clear): 38 to 48 Lacs


*Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)*
Lahore Real Estate
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 05:39 AM PST 
DHA Lahore Phase 6 Block Wise Prices Update Prices Update

*DHA Lahore Phase 6 Block Wise Prices Update Prices Update June 30th 2016 Before Tax Imposed*
(All plots prices are with full development charges paid)

*A Block*
1 Kanal 160 to 250 Lacs
10 Marla 145 to 165 Lacs

*B Block*
1 Kanal 185 to 250 Lacs

*C Block*
1 Kanal 165 to 235 Lacs

*D Block*
2 Kanal 360 to 450 Lacs
1 Kanal 155 to 210 Lacs
10 Marla 140 to 150 Lacs
5 Marla 75 to 85 Lacs

*E Block*
2 Kanal 340 to 365 Lacs
1 Kanal 145 to 190 Lacs
5 Marla 58 to 68 Lacs

*F Block*
1 Kanal 135 to 185 Lacs

*G Block*
1 Kanal 185 to 225 Lacs

*H Block*
1 Kanal 185 to 250 Lacs

*J Block*
1 Kanal 175 to 250 Lacs

*K Block*
1 Kanal 150 to 210 Lacs

*L Block*
1 Kanal 165 to 210 Lacs
10 Marla 140 to 150 Lacs

*M Block*
1 Kanal 155 to 210 Lacs

*N Block*
1 Kanal 115 to 215 Lacs

*Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)*
Lahore Real Estate
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 05:32 AM PST 
DHA Lahore Phase 7 Block Wise Prices Update June 30th 2016

*DHA Lahore Phase 7 Block Wise Prices Update Prices Update DHA Lahore Phase 7 Block Wise Prices Update (Before Tax Imposed)*
(All plots prices are with full development charges paid)

*P Block*
1 Kanal 115 to 160 Lacs

*Q Block*
1 Kanal 90 to 140 Lacs

*R Block*
1 Kanal 125 to 170 Lacs

*S Block*
1 Kanal 140 to 160 Lacs

*T Block*
1 Kanal 105 to 150 Lacs
10 Marla 68 to 78 Lacs
5 Marla 50 to 55 Lacs

*U Block *
2 Kanal 220 to 240 Lacs
1 Kanal 100 to 160 Lacs

*U Block*
10 Lacs 73 to 78 Lacs

*V Block*
1 Kanal 95 to 140 Lacs

*W Block 1 Kanal*
140 to 160 Lacs

*X Block*
2 Kanal 210 to 220 Lacs
1 Kanal 100 to 130 Lacs
10 Marla 65 to 70 Lacs

*Y Block*
2 Kanal 215 to 225 Lacs
1 Kanal 95 to 145 Lac
10 Marla 58 to 85 Lacs

*Z Block*
1 Kanal 85 to 145 Lacs


*Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)*
Lahore Real Estate
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. replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 08:58 AM PST 

Commercial plot rates please.
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 03:30 AM PST 
A open letter to Ishaaq Daar

I am writing this article purely as a real estate analyst and have no political affiliation and motive.
The real estate sector in Pakistan has been a leading sector in gain and performance, exemplary not only in this country but the world over. If you compare the gains in terms of foreign currency, the UAE, UK, USA and India all are flat. Only a bit of comparison with Canada can be made. Here, not only does the private developer make available roads, sewage and other basic infrastructure, but even power plants which is exclusively the government’s responsibility. And above all, the government is gaining money in the form of Taxes. Government-backed housing developments like LDA, KDA, etc. could not deliver high- class housing for residents, except CDA. Neither could they uproot corruption, the land mafia, qabza groups etc. But still I will rank their performance as mediocre but not at par with private housings.
Nothing is free of cost. Due to such a boom in real estate the Government is tackling with two mighty powers, namely DHA and Bahria. (Money in Might everywhere). The current Government’s rivalry with these powers is not a new story. The real estate sector is booming so much that it is engulfing many industries, and people are diverting their money to real estate as it is hassle free and the gains are unmatched.
I just listened to the interview of Ishaq Dar. He told that DC rates are exclusively determined by provinces and a lot of power politics and influence is exercised to keep DC rates low. He told that in some parts of Pakistan, DC rates are 1 lac per acre but their real value is 25 Lac. I am not sure but in Lahore certain areas have DC rates about 30 to 40 Percent of their market value. I very well know that a show of power, influential contacts and money is shown at the time of determination of DC rates. From 2007 to 2010 the DC Rate of UET was 1.5 Times the rate of Valencia whereas property in UET was 60% cheaper.
It looks as if the Government is ready to bargain and make the procedure easier. There should be some executive body of real estate agents to bargain with the Government so that the transition be smooth. The proposed procedure is too cumbersome where the FBR will contact you after many months to give you valuation and pay tax. The best thing is for a 3rd party to mediate between the federal Government and the provinces to reach an agreement for DC or FEDERAL RATES. All the procedure of Sale purchase should be a 2-3 days procedure as now.
Overseas remittances are a big chunk of GDP and more importantly, the trade balance. Any breach in confidence will be detrimental for the economy and the whole country.

Kureshi® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 05:40 AM PST 

bravo!

User_15601® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 07:17 AM PST 

what is the meaning of DC rate?

CMY replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 08:52 AM PST 

Deputy Commissioner Rates

Ali Bianco replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 08:06 PM PST 

Property community is quite strong in pakistan and this kind laws cant work. Govt will have to ease out to keep the sector running because it is only sector in pakistan which has foreign investments...

Ali.Bianco replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 08:07 PM PST 

Property community is quite strong in pakistan and this kind laws cant work. Govt will have to ease out to keep the sector running because it is only sector in pakistan which has foreign investments...
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 02:09 AM PST 

An extract of my discussion with a chartered accountant friend whi is tax expert regarding the Capital Gain Tax.
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Saturday, July 2, 2016 01:05 AM PST 
No Need To Panic

It may be perceived from the interview of Finance Minister and other relevant personalities on different TV channels that some big names in property business are on board with FM to make/ammend the finance bill workable in such a manner that property business keep on going not only generating the sizable revenue for government but also safeguarding the rational interests of investors/public. The matter looks to be settled within some weeks. Hope for the best. Thanks

AHMAD HASSAN® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 01:49 AM PST 

That means they implemented policy without any study.

Kureshi® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 01:59 AM PST 

Finally some good news. Ishaq Dar interview on Geo also indicates flexibity due to intervention of big property stake holders.

I hope and pray that some middle ground is settled without involving FBR whereby DC rates would be enhanced to be reflective of reasonable value ; not market value.

It also indicates that law was passed with an intent to scare people and get them to agree on the higher DC value. So it is important that people / dealers / investors should protest and suggest alternate.

I am very disappointed to see that many dealers have panicked and sound scared instead of uniting and voicing their concerns with their governing associations. some of them have really got used o easy money, I guess.

Salman.A® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 02:05 AM PST 

Yes ISHAQ DAR slept, SAW A DREAM, and implemented the policy overnight.

Thinking that it will turn the tides in favour of Pakistan.

Those who think property does not help PAKISTAN is mistaken. The construction activity keeps 60 industries alive and millions of jobs are created by construction industry.

Government earn billions from property transactions.

When you buy a property it is documented economy not black economy. It does not matter if it is in wife's name or children's name. Government knows every thing about your family.

It is negligence of government by not pursuing people who buy properties worth billion of rupees and ask them about their source of income.

Government implemented DC rates and it was perfectly legal to declare your asset at DC value.

SAK replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 07:39 AM PST 

Government should, rather bound to close the doors of corruption instead of asking the source; even if this money has got no trail it is contributing in the vibrancy of economic activities as compared to capital outflow in the form like panama leaks: it is the moral duty of present govt to, at first stop the corruption and flight of capital and then ask the source: for which they have already been taxing heavily.
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Friday, July 1, 2016 11:02 PM PST 

All posts and replies to non registered friends are deleted or will be deleted. Please dont waste time to answer non registered posters because their posts and all replies to non registered poster will be deleted anyway when seen.


1000s registered so please must start using their phone numbers as passwords. Must needed to remove fraud posters.
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Friday, July 1, 2016 09:31 PM PST 
Dont panic

Dear friends,
It is a trubulent time and the main reason for panic is that nobody trusts FBR or income tax officers (due to past record).
My sincere advice is especially to overseas friends that we should compile our money trail properly for all the purchases that we have done and make a file of all our evidence.
Secondly tax filing should be given a proper thought rather than blindly filing and not declaring all assets including files as if you buy something later on you have to prove the money trail. So think wisely about it.
Third is my personal advise. Hold if you can unless you need money because of two reasons=
1- As all cycles, this tough time will be over as well and people after a decade will thank the Alighty for buying these plots at current rates.
2- For a common pakistani who has some money where will he invest otherwise? how many can run a business and feed all these hungry officers and clerks to save business from their unfair taxataion etc and run from office to office to pay bribes etc.
I thought this might help someone so decided to werite it.
Finally if your investment is giving you hypertension or sleepless nights----get rid of it-its not worth the agony!
Hope it helps!

User_20873® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 11:25 PM PST 

Swiss government released data that in swiss banks indian, usa, Chinese money decreased during last two years but Pakistanis money increased by 16% during last two years of nawaz regime.

User_20873® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 11:26 PM PST 

Swiss government released data that in swiss banks indian, usa, Chinese money decreased during last two years but Pakistanis money increased by 16% during last two years of nawaz regime.
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Friday, July 1, 2016 08:53 PM PST 
Wealth Tax in Pakistan

Request for the Forum Members who are more in taxation, Is Wealth Tax in place in Pakistan? It was there in 1990s and then was abolished,
Is it in Place now if So at what rate and what Brackets.

I am an overseas Pakistani, Have No problem in proving all my money white. There is No Income Tax Payable. I guess in Budget Govt made it mandatory for Filers to disclose the assets but up to my understanding there was no wealth tax. Is Filing need to be done even if there is no Tax payable?

For The people who don't know basics Overseas are exempted from Income Tax, but they have to show source like salary statement etc,


Over seas are NOT EXEMPTED from
Property Tax
Income from Business in Pakistani
Withholding Tax on Profit or savings in Pakistan
Gain Tax
CVT
With holding Tax on transections
Wealth tax

User_528® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 09:52 PM PST 

Habib for your question around "s Filing need to be done even if there is no Tax payable?". Yes filing needs to be done. you will just declare you received overseas income of say 50lacs and than indicate tax exempt income also as 50lacs.

i did it few months ago for last year and no issues in audit and it went fine.

User_6006® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 10:03 PM PST 

i want to ask a simple Q , i studied in private school,college,univ, i went to private hospital for medical treatment , i never get a penny from govt , i gave tax from toothpaste to gold leaf ,

govt not able to give me security or job , i am jobless , my father was in pvt bank though it was once govt but pmln sold it , my father gave me bit of money which i am using to live and now was thinking to invest this money in property and this tax issue arrived , i am non filer , i have no job , how i can become filer by selling my kidney ?? please advice me as non filer taxes are too much high . please tell in easy to understand way :)

Habib (Plz Register) replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 10:42 PM PST 

Dear User, I don't know which world you are living one of my friend who is living and working in UAE for 10 years is paying about 30 Lac Tax/ Year to US Govt.
Interestingly his due will be even more but other than his Job he opened a Fake Laundry in UAE, showed his wife as Manager and some fake workers though he has to pay rent and License fees, He is Showing Loss in Laundry for last 6 years and showing lesser Taxable income to fall in Lower Bracket.
Another Friend when was Living in UK as Doctor was earning Lot of money in Locum working very hard 7 days a week, he had opened a Company in Home showing wife as secretary and son as Driver Car on Lease and he was changing rent in his own home, he was also showing loss to Company to decrease net income.
UK Citizens have not to file Tax out of Country but US Citizens have to

Szaidi® replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 01:40 PM PST 

There is no wealth tax at the moment but you have to sumbit wealth statement every year together with income statement. And the wealth showed in wealth statement shall match with your income statement. That is called white money transaction in pakistan.Tax is implied on income statement but overseas pakistani have exemptiin if they bring money via banking channel for which they would gave proof from bank to show that money came from outside pakistan.
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Friday, July 1, 2016 05:46 PM PST 

The ultimate solution for overseas Pakistanies is to sell properties and move money to offshore accounts because if you sell before 5 years, will be paying 10% and if keep more than 2 years, paying 10%. And finally if plan to construct, pay 10% before starting construction. So it is a chess check made by GOVT for us. In reality we overseas canot run any any active business. I remember in 1998 NS GOVT started a campaign against HUNDI transfer which was good but they also freez forign currency accounts and blocked all the ways of money to get in Pakistan. Till today Pakistan canot rebuild trust to keep forign currwncy in Banks. Now this is same suicide attempt from GOVT. If they want to bring overseas in tax network then should define a formal procedure and we will follow. But the way they are implementing it will impact forign remittance which already reduced due to recent job cuts in GCC.
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Friday, July 1, 2016 05:39 PM PST 
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Friday, July 1, 2016 04:52 PM PST 

To all overseas pakistanis : i dont think there are many countries in the world where you can buy a property , sell it im three years at double the price and not pay any capital gains tax. In fact, there are some countries, like US, which require citizens to report and pay capital gains taxes on property sales wherever it is in the world (after deducting any taxes paid in the country whete the property is held). There is no concept whatsoever of non market rates - it is always supposed to be done at non market rates. Dubai is an exception as it has no income or capital gains taxes - this is an attraction of Dubai , which has hardly any indigenous population and needed to give something attractive for the world to come there.

Even in Dubai, there is a 4 percent transfer charge on the actual market value of property at the time of transfer.


As for western countries the rates are much higher.

So please stop crying and applaud a bold and rational step by the governmnet to increase Pakistans tax to gdp ratio.

Aa replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 04:56 PM PST 

Sorry for typo - i meant always done at MARKET rates.

Also, to say that rulers are corrupt and therefore taxes are unjust is a ridiculous argument. By that logic no onr should ever pay any tax and the givernment should shut down.will overseas pakistanis then step in to pay the salaries of the hundreds of thousands of army jawans, teachers, and doctors employed by the government?

Grow up guys.

User_20873® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 04:57 PM PST 

Mr. Aa

You pay the tax and enjoy the facilities in return. When rulers don't pay tax and their children are doing business outside the country, why we should. What we get in return of our taxes.

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 04:58 PM PST 

People are more concerned on sudden increases. No one deny paying tax

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:01 PM PST 

Not even a good hospital in lahore where you can get treatment after retirement or in old age

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:10 PM PST 

Again. No one deny paying tax but the mechanism. People were already paying a tax of around 100,000 on tranfer for each DHA Plot . You can make it 200,000 this year and go on. People are more concerned on the methadology.

Szaidi® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:13 PM PST 

Everybody will pay taxes if rulers also pay the tax. I am paying tax more than all of these minsters. Is my income is more than that. Not at all. This create rebellion attitude. The facilities available in returns for a common man is pathetic. Every ruling party has made it simple. Earn money via corruption and send it outside Pakistan. Every Pakistani loves his country and wanted prosperity of this country but when they see un justice they cry.

Aa replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:13 PM PST 

786 i understand your point. Most people are not complaining about that, they are talking about cirruption of sharifs. As it is by the way declaring a sale at dc rate and paying tax on that was ILLEGAL in my understanding. The dc rate was supposed to be a minimum rate and transfer was to be recorded and paid for at actual transfer price.

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:16 PM PST 

Government itself take benifit of DC value if they buy plot for some road or bridge. What do you say about that? isnt it unfair?

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:19 PM PST 

Last year they had rule that after 2 years you have to pay 5% tax on DC Rate. I kept it for two years and this year they made it 10% . Now i have to keep it for 3 more years? Who will answer my concerns and policies made last year?

User_6006® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:22 PM PST 

Aa come in pakistan with all u have than do this chutter putter and stood with it , untill thn getout of here

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:24 PM PST 

Next year they can change it to 6 years and i will be after that truck ki batti.......if i pay tax then do i have any rights as well? or should i pay like a slave because i live in a country which is ruled by them?

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:30 PM PST 

Justice is if you have bought a property last year then last year rules apply if you are buying this year then this year rule applies. They change rules as and when required because they have spent money on metros and orange train. At buying there are different rules and now when i will sell i have different laws. Dont you think i deserve to know laws applicable to my buying? or should they change with time just because goverment has empty pockets?

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 05:41 PM PST 

Thanks for understanding .I am salaried person and my tax is deducted from source. I will wait for 3 more years before i sale it. Allah knows what will be tax laws at that time. I will be living on rent and will be paying taxes on empty plot to punjab givernment from this year. It is no less than slavery . Belive me !!!

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 06:16 PM PST 

I am not blaming anyone but why all nationalists people are not using registered nick? :) You are doing a great job by persuing people to pay tax. It would be good if you also use registered nicks so we are sure that it is not same person commenting with different nicks

AhmetKildir® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 06:34 PM PST 

@Ahmed786 Votes bhi jali, IDs bhi jali. ;)

Asad-Ali replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 07:03 PM PST 

Ask Mr Dar to calculate the worth of Raiwand Palace/FormHouse according to current market rate in surrounding societies and then send them property Tax.

As soon as these Ganjey will pay this tax on their property which they built from black money, no one on this forum will have any problem to pay even 15% CGT.

Ahmad786® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 08:55 PM PST 

NT dont worry , fbr and excise are working in back dates . They will look at all transactions done in last 5 years for filers and 10 years for non filers. I wish you get a chance to pay all the taxes in back dates :)

Bilal® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 09:04 PM PST 

@AhmetKilder very well said.

MIT® replied on Friday, July 1, 2016 11:42 PM PST 

@Aa...Come and live in the 'mess', be more loyal than the kings as there are 'many' now a d days devoid of facts and harsh realities being faced by a common man in Pakistan. Feel heat where it burns.

Aa replied on Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:41 AM PST 

Mit, firstly as i said i am living in the mess. Second of all, if u think people who sell properties for multiple crores can be considered the "common man", you are delusional. These are highly privileged people who have benefited immensely from the government, not least because of the governments
Infrastructure spending wjich has helped their own properties. Now someone will say dha doesnt get infratsructure spending... Really? What about the ring road interchanges planned arounf dha? Ehat about ring road itself? What about 200 billion rupees which government paid to buy landfor orange line?

Act like adults please

Tariq Iqbal Khan replied on Sunday, July 3, 2016 06:07 PM PST 

Dear Aa, I can tell your age... you are below 30 for sure...a so-called adult, but not really mature enough! You only know a quarter of the reality...but you don't know the remaining two thirds... Kindly learn to see things from all aspects... This advice may help you grow up as a true adult!
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