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DHA Phase 7 Lahore | Current Files & Plot prices | Latest Development Activities | October 2021

DHA Phase 7 Lahore | Current Files & Plot prices | Latest Development Activities | October 2021



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Thinker replied on Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:03 PM PST 

Very good progress in Phase 7. I think after Phase 6, the next phase to fully develop will be phase 7. Prices are still low, so lots of people can purchase plot and build a house. Fairways is developing nicely and with Mcdonalds and other restaurants it would soon become a nice place to live.

Qaiser replied on Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:21 PM PST 

Any news on Masjid in P,Q,S,Q,T and U blocks?
Any updates on Park in T/S block?
thanks

Arhum Arhum replied on Sunday, October 3, 2021 09:34 PM PST 

Thinker, if you've been holding plot for a long time having purchased good location plot at value of 2.5 crore or below, then I can see worth of investment. But right now, good location plot is costing 3+ crore which is not worth it because you'll see maybe 10-15% gains in 1-2 years time. The initial investment has become too large and it's still a 'maybe' because giving phase 9 possession of 2-3 blocks is definite by end of this year. Whatever your thoughts are on phase 9 prism, there is no doubt that it will definitely take away genuine demand from phase 7.

Qaiser, I am hearing very solid news that because mcdonalds has started now, park in sector Y will start early next year within first or second quarter of 2022. As for masjid, unlikely a masjid comes in P, Q or S blocks as R block masjid is close by for them. Much more likely that T or U block masjid starts in first or second quarter of 2022. I am aware that DHA has planned one masjid for early next year, can only speculate the location but most likely T or U block.

Tahir replied on Monday, October 4, 2021 12:09 PM PST 

AOA
I am a non DHA investor but used to see increasing or decreasing rates in DHA as many relatives have investments there. In 2015 my cousin purchased a 1 K good location in W block DHA phase 7 amounting to Rs. 1.25 Crore. At that time all friends were abusing him along with me as well. From the owner he purchased was selling because he was going to purchase two plots in DHA 9 Prisim. Actually the purchaser was living in USA and did not have any experience of investment in real estate and on recommendation of any friend he invested in Phase 7.

In 2015 in Blocks B and Q demands were 80 and in R, N, M and H etc. demands were 60 in Phase 9. So 80 + 18 = 98. Although Phase 9 has some edge at present and there are prominent chances of increasing of investments there but as we were expecting Phase 7 is a border area and People have to shift in other localities as tension will increase with Indea and keeping all these things in mind investments are going to stuck there.

So at the end investments have increased in Phsae 7 as well.

Lost... replied on Monday, October 4, 2021 04:08 PM PST 

Dear Tahir, are you saying that in case of any conflict with India, Phase-7 will be a more dangerous place to live compared to Phase 6, 8, and 9?

Tahir replied on Monday, October 4, 2021 06:02 PM PST 

Dear as I mentioned that I am living outside DHA and I think phase 7is situated on BRB so that BRB was last defence line in 1965 war saved by Maj Aziz bhatti so I think so. However I have not seen physically DHA phase 7

alpha replied on Monday, October 4, 2021 06:13 PM PST 

Sir Tahir - you are right - Phase 7 touches the BRB canal. I think Arhum sb. is saying that Phase 9 has yet to fetch a the possession dividend ( which can be 1 crore or 1.5 crore ) - hence there is juice still in Phase 9. The better location of Phase 9, I believe is already accounted for in the current plots prices - however I might be wrong as I am not an expert here. Phase 9 has an edge of Phase 7 in the sense that the it is protected by the Hudaira drain and the enemy will have to literally swim through our *)(* to get to phase 9

Arhum Arhum replied on Monday, October 4, 2021 07:31 PM PST 

Alpha, thanks for yet again making a joke out of the discussion. 7's train for investment is gone now, 9 prism's is only getting started. 9 prism is the future of DHA living and no other developing DHA lahore phase after it will come to match it in terms of location or living. The location of phase 9 prism is already accounted for in price, sure but once it gets possession, it will quickly close gap between itself and phase 7. Either phase 7 prices will see a crash which is unlikely or prism will see boom which is definitely the more likely scenario. Not to mention that without a doubt, phase 9 prism prices will double in coming time.

Tahir, it is not a matter of whether investment increases or not. Over long periods, real estate investment anywhere in DHA's developing phases will increases. It is a matter of how quick, how much will have to invest and what is return rate. Phase 7 return rate is low right now, in fact you are better off investing in Multan or other DHAs instead. And there are no concerns of war happening ever. 1965 was a special time when he didn't have atom bombs, now we do. In terms of safety, Phase 7 is fine

Tahir replied on Monday, October 4, 2021 11:35 PM PST 

I don't intend to break hearts or destroy pleasent atmosphere but for sake of arguments I will add that Kargil war of 1999 and 2001 Pak India tension when hundreds of bankers were constructed on BRB is a prove that there is still a chance for limited conventional war may be after 50 years. These were remarks of an Indian Army Officer, however an Army personal may explain it well either it's wrong or right.

As far as increase in prices of property is concerned, we see every property prices are linked with each other. Increase in Phase 9 have also increased dead investment of Bahawalpur, Phase 13 etc.

At present Please 9 has edge due to its location which is near to city and I mentioned rates of 2015 above. Can someone guide how much Phase 9 investors have been benefitted till date as compared to Phase 7 from the rates of 2015 as at present I don't have correct idea of prices.

Thanks

Tahir replied on Monday, October 4, 2021 11:40 PM PST 

The effects of war may be worse for Phase 6 and 8 or for whole DHA as well. I mentioned that an Army Officer may explain it well but still there are chances of conventional war may be after 50 years

alpha replied on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:01 AM PST 

Again, I am not an expert so take my opinion with a grain of salt. It is an efficient market - when plots double in price in DHA 9 ( or in any other phase ) the prices will increase ( by 80% or 90% ) in other phases of DHA as well.

Arhum Arhum replied on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:58 AM PST 

Tahir, what joke-like comments are these. I'm pretty certain now you are sitting overseas commenting on this issue. Anyone with a sane mind sitting in Pakistan will know that we will never go to conventional war in that sense again. Kargil war is perfect evidence to that, both sides de-escalated tensions when international community pressure came in due to risk of nuclear war. Only army propaganda nowadays that we are still at threat of conventional war against India especially on our border along Lahore! If there is any chance of conventional war it will happen in disputed territory or foreign soil not along Lahori border.

Alpha, may very well be an efficient market but only to a certain point. Developing phases act similarly only to a certain point and developed phases do not change much in prices. DHA phase 1-5 barely saw jump in prices unlike phase 7 or prism did. Phase 7's juice is running out, it will not keep on increasing forever. It is approaching its limit or cap.

Tahir replied on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:22 PM PST 

Dear Arhum, as I mentioned that an army officer may explain well that in 2001 being atomic force both countries deployed their force on Lahore border and hundred of bankers were constructed on BRB and you may google Gen Aziz statements on the issue the then Core commander, Lahore. However, your comments right or wrong were expected to be delivered in good and polite manner.

As you are a property expert and especially phase 9 Lover so we were expecting from you to explain compression on gains of Popular Phase 9 and Dead Investment of DHA Bahawalpur which gained from 25 Lac to 60Lab (1K) and same case is the case of Phase 13 Lahore and all happened in less then one year.

Tahir replied on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 12:51 PM PST 

and also the compression with Phase 07 from 2015 to date and all know that after population rate of increase in property are bound to stop or see very less gains.

alpha replied on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 01:39 PM PST 

Dear Sir Tahir - Lahoris generally prefer to be close to the border rather than away from it whenever the tensions are high. This has been the case since 1965. Even now, whenever the tensions are high, the Lahoris venture out to the border areas to help our brothers in the trenches

Arhum Arhum replied on Tuesday, October 5, 2021 06:58 PM PST 

Alpha you are a king of comedy! Well done!

Tahir, I am a Pakistani investor living in Pakistan not a dealer. When the Abhinandan fiasco happened back in 2019, I remember military was mobilising along border, tanks and aircrafts could be heard moving in Lahore. Then what happened? Absolutely nothing! Army is there to prepare for the worst possible scenario but in 99.99% cases the worst possible scenario does not happen when you have nukes! Only overseas Pakistanis get scared like kittens over such things.

Tahir replied on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 12:49 PM PST 

Dear I can only say that you are 110% right, however, I was expecting your comments as expert of Investment in DHA, what investors have earned from Prisim, and from dead investments which I mentioned above from May 2015 (Balloting date of Prisim). As far I know that my friend sold a average location 1 K in May 2020 in only 105 Lacs and dead investments also increased during this period almost 200 %.

Yes Prisim future from now to onward seem to be bright being close to city but what was profit ratio in past of Prism and other dead DHA areas as mentioned above, I think it is close to each other.

Arhum Arhum replied on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 04:02 PM PST 

Tahir sb, there is nothing such as 'dead investment' when it comes to DHA Lahore market or DHA in general. In short run, DHA market can act irrationally or speculation can be seen but in long run, you will always see good returns. Property market in Pakistan went through stagnation period from 2016-20 hence why you think it is a 'dead investment'.

If you're buying property in Pakistan, buy it with the mind of long run gains because if you look for short term gains, chances are you'll end up disappointed and sell at a loss or reduced profit.

Phase 9 prism investor replied on Wednesday, October 6, 2021 08:36 PM PST 

1000% agreed with Mr. Arhum Arhum. For every ones knowledge i bought a plot in B block in 2016 cost of land in 80 paid 20 lac development charges and costed me 105 lac approx. But i was in dire need of money in 2020 so sold at 95 after 4 years of holding at 10 lac loss. But right after one year now same plot rate is 250.

alpha replied on Thursday, October 7, 2021 01:04 AM PST 

Sir, what Tahir Sb. is saying that for pari passu comparison, last year has been crazy for all sorts of assets. Lithium doubled in price, containers cost increased by 5 times, US real estate market went up the roof, BTC broke $50K, USD crossed 170, MRNA vaccine went up 4 times. While the price appreciation in Prism reflects fundamentals ( location, iminent possession etc ) - but last year gave similar results for all sort of assets

Arhum Arhum replied on Thursday, October 7, 2021 12:31 PM PST 

Alpha, I can only touch upon reasons for why commodities and other assets have boomed. BTC was pure speculation as interest rates were lowered everywhere and people had savings they wanted to invest now that they were spending less as businesses were closed. The rest of the commodities you mention like lithium, containers/shopping, vaccines is all due to sudden increase in aggregate demand post-covid lockdowns. US real estate market once again boomed due to low interest rates and a changing social attitude of younger generation to own homes+older generation not willing to sell homes leading to high demand and low inventory.

For DHA property market, you fail to ignore the fact that prices were stagnant or slightly decreased from 2016 to 2020 April. In an efficient market, that does not happen. The market now is just making gains it should have slowly made from 2016 to 2020 April, a great lag took place. I don't expect prices of phase 7, 9 prism or any other developing phase to come down (at least not by much) even if market again returns to stagnation. Only files will be impacted by such a scenario. And let it be known, phase 9 prism has outperformed most assets and this is genuine growth. Prices of containers, lithium will return to normal and bitcoin will crash sometime in future but DHA property market will not crash or decrease in value as other temporary gaining assets/commodities have. There is a major difference. Investing in DHA is a sound investing decision, investing in bitcoin is foolish.

Old man replied on Thursday, October 7, 2021 02:01 PM PST 

Prisim saw a bad time from 2006 to 2010 and investors have to bear major losses. From 2011 to March 2015 there were minor profits or it was a stagnant stage. So I think investing in Dha is lucky for most of time but it my be bad time for some unlucky people for a specific long or short period. There are some chances it may happen in Dhv 10 or 13 as well.

Arhum Arhum replied on Thursday, October 7, 2021 06:46 PM PST 

Old Man, prism had not been balloted at the time. I will never understand prices of files, they go up and down very randomly. Again if you're buying file, keep in mind that it is a very long-term plan. Be prepared to hold your asset for 10-15 years if you want suitable gains.

alpha replied on Friday, October 8, 2021 03:54 PM PST 

Who acts as a market maker for DHA files. Is it that DHA indicates the price to its partner dealers and they set the price indicated by DHA ? If that is the case, if I am a seller and there is no buyer at that price, will DHA or the dealers buy the file ? I doubt that the price is determined by supply / demand
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Friday, April 8, 2016 02:42 PM PST 
Investment Advise Request

Dear Experts. Please advise to invest Rs 12 Million. I can hold this investment for long term. Which option looks better or suggest any other better option :

1) 01 Kanal Prism Plot in A, C, D, Q or P sectors

2) 01 Kanal Prism Plot in Sector H, E , G or L and 1 Kanal File in DHA Multan

3) Two 5 Marla Plots in DHA Town

4) 01 Kanal Plot in Phase-7

5) 01 Kanal Plot in Phase-7 (around 9 Million ) plus DHA Multan File

Talal replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 03:00 PM PST 

Don't forget development charges of 20 lacs

Qaiser replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 03:08 PM PST 

@Talal. Yes, the development charges being spread over 2-3 years would be managed.

Surfer replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 04:00 PM PST 

Click Option no 1 avoid Multan. If you are able to manage development charges.

Ekrar replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 05:03 PM PST 

If you can hold for more than 5 years, go for Option 1 without any hesitation!!! Try getting a TOP LOCATION plot in prism A,C or D!!!

dubai replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 06:02 PM PST 

I think go for Dha 9 town two plots...hold for one to two years as appreciation is expected there bcoz of main boulevard, construction activity etc. after having reasonable gains shift to prism.

Qaiser replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 06:33 PM PST 

@Ekrar. Thanks for your input. Will it be possible if you can share your views on Dubai's comments wherein to buy two DHA Town plots and switching to Prism after materializing gains. I fact, I was also inclined on this strategy but may be missing some thing, therefore you assessment would be valuable. Thanks @ Dubai too.

Ekrar replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 07:06 PM PST 

Dear Qaiser, This is somewhat tricky.

If u live in Pakistan, u can opt for this strategy(told by dubai)...
There are always more chances of gains when u keep switching in properties where the construction activity is about to start!

It is true that 9-Town is expected to increase by 6-8 lac further during current year, BUT what will happen after that?
The cost of SWITCHING from Town to prism at a later stage i.e hassle of paying the dealers, membership fee, CVT, paying something extra for "GOOD" location to lock the deal in 9-town,etc etc may eventually lead u to a lesser profit margin(may be)...

So the question is how much further profit would u earn from 9-Town: may be 12-16 lac?


At the same time, there is a risk that u may not be able to catch a top location plot in prism A, D, C even at 150 once development activity starts in these sectors in full boom(which is highly likely)!
Already top location plots asking price is 125+!

Mustafa replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 07:19 PM PST 

Its best to invest in DHA Town plots for 2 years. You should be able to buy decent plots for 58 lacs each and sell them around 85 lacs in 2 years. After that shift to Prism or what ever is offering safe and healthy returns. You need to remember that your investments to have lower shortfall risk and DHA Town has that specific property at this moment in time.

Ekrar replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 07:30 PM PST 

Mustafa sb,
even if he buys 9-Town at 60 today n sells at 85 after 2 years(according to your assessment): Profit of 25 lac per 5 marla?...total profit 50 lac

Don't you think, PRISM top location after 2 years(in Sector A/D/C) will be 175+?

THEN WHY GO FOR PAYING DEALERS/MEMBERSHIPS etc etc. ???

Qaiser replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 07:59 PM PST 

Thanks @ Ekrar and @ Mustafa for your pertinent views. Infact, LRE has given us a platform to have assessments and share views from different perspectives. The follow up points for consideration are:

1) Whether in 2 years time Prism Top locations would be around 175 lacs?

2) Whether, in 2 years time Town 5 Marla would be around 85 lacs?

3) Considering the transfer fee + Membership Fee + Dealer Fee (twice; one for selling and one buying) would be around Rs 240,000. Of course extra the hassle for sure would be on top of that?

Ekrar replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 09:16 PM PST 

Dear Qaiser, TOP LOCATION PRISM plots are usually held by people having STRONG HOLDING POWER....so I doubt you will be able to grab the deal after 2 years even in 200!!!(I told the minimum price as 175+ after 2 years)

On a lighter note: After 5-6 years, u can "SHOW OFF" people that I own a TOP LOCATION PLOT IN PRISM :P, this charisma will not be attached with 9-Town!!!!

Now comes ur decision,as it is ur money n ur risk!!!!
Good luck for future!

Qaiser replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 09:44 PM PST 

@ Ekrar. Thanks for your valuable input. Just one more opinion. How to do you rate Prism Sector H,G,E, L Vs A,B,C over 5 years investment horizon.

Mustafa replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 09:52 PM PST 

Dear Ekrar, no offense but i expect Prism plot at 175, after 4 years in good blocks that will be developed first. I am sure things can be different from what we expect today, but DHA Town offers minimal downside risk in a collapse scenario while everybody knows what happens to non-possession plots in bad markets. In good market Prism will gain proportionate to DHA Town, but why take the downside risk when same return is achievable in less risky investment. I would myself invest in Prism after a few years but the existing rates in comparison to Phase 7 add to the downside risk, that i always avoid being a financial analyst as I have seen how markets shift over the past 15 years.

Aa replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 11:54 PM PST 

I just dont get what investers in 9 town are after. Aray bhai 50-60 lakhsfor 5 marla iss say zyaada kitnee hee jagon pay hain?

Qaiser replied on Saturday, April 9, 2016 01:02 AM PST 

@ Mustafa. Appreciate the scientific / logic based argument.
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Friday, April 8, 2016 01:23 PM PST 

Dear members I have a question about the construction rules in Lahore property. I have a 9 Marla commercial in architect society. I want to build 3 stores in addition to ground floor. Is that allowed by lda bylaws thanks

Qaiser replied on Friday, April 8, 2016 02:01 PM PST 

Better pay a visit to LDA office and check it out there.
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Thursday, May 28, 2015 04:45 PM PST 
Investment in DHA lahore

Dear CMY,
Asalamualikum, Hope you are fine i have 1.25 crore
pakistani rupees for investment.i need your highly
valuable suggestion that where should i invest this amount,should i buy 1 kanal in phase 7 R block or 10 marla in phase 6.and secondly for your information
my plan is to sell this plot after construction.
Your advice will be highly appreciated

Qaiser replied on Thursday, May 28, 2015 05:33 PM PST 

Sir it should be phase 7 R block obviously. Phase 6 has somehow reached its peak whereas Phase 7 has a lot of potential to grow. Specially R W & Z1 blocks have a lot of potential as these block are facing Raya and are almost part of Phase 6.

Abdur Rab Lone replied on Thursday, May 28, 2015 05:41 PM PST 

Thank you very much for your response,but in R block there is one grave yard.would it effect my plot or house??

Saudia replied on Thursday, May 28, 2015 08:26 PM PST 

Is Grave yard not effecting R block Phase 7...?
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