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Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:25 PM PST 

DHA Ballot 2016 results? :pkf
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(71726)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:15 PM PST 
DHA Prism 9 -

Dear LRE Team,

Can you please evaluate Plot # 1867, Block-K DHA Phase 9, 5 Marla?

Can you please evaluate Plot # 953, Block-J DHA Phase 9 Prism, 5 Marla Corner Plot?

Thank you in Advance

AsimIrfan replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 07:06 PM PST 

Dear Amir Sb,

Prism Plot # K-1867 Around 26 to 27 Lacs &
Plot # J-953 Around 25 To 26 Lacs

Asim Irfan
Lahore Real Estate
+923224003475
Email:INFO@LREPK.Com
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(71725)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:12 PM PST 

L725 and h518 one kanal plots

can you please tell me the value of my plots

i need ur advice shall i hold it or sell it .



regards :pkf
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(71722)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:32 PM PST 

L725 and h518 one kanal plots

can you please tell me the value of my plots

i need ur advice shall i hold it or sell it .



regards
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(71720)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:08 PM PST 

Any chance of uprise Dha 9town in coming month. :h :h :h
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(71719)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:07 PM PST 
Plot Evaluation

Dear LRE,

Please evaluate the following Plot:

Plot No. 1296, Phase 9 Prism, Sector C

Thanks

LRE® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:38 PM PST 

Dear Ali Sb,

Prism Plot # C-1296 Around 80 Lacs


Salman Maqsood
Lahore Real Estate
+923224009967
Email:INFO@LREPK.Com
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(71718)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:50 PM PST 
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(71717)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 02:51 PM PST 

I am leaving in USA.We want to purchaze one house in DHA or Bahria Town lahore, 10 marla newly built.
My husband is very busy man.He asked me to visit Pak first and have a good reaserch.Can anybody answer these questions;
1-Should we build our own house or purchase already built house by private contracotor.
2-Contractor are professional in Pak Technically and financily.
3-How much extra they will take. (their profit)

Suggest me any good house Contracotor name/group.

Guest replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:40 PM PST 

AOA,you can't trust on them ,there are very few people who are honest.If you bought new house you will be surprised by cosmetic thinks but you don't know about concealed things e.g foundation,wires and pipes inside the walls,cement and sand ratio,roof etc.Hence be carefull .Everybody here want to become millionaire overnight.

Khalid Javaid replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:59 PM PST 

I am also a non-resident Pakistani & will like to advise you based on my personal experience.
1. Constructing a house while your family is settled abroad, will be really painful task, lot of dependence upon others, lot of wastage of time and money. I had my house completed in 2014 but it took the double of time which it should normally take & dealing with contractors etc. was agonizing.
2. Buy a newly constructed house but get it inspected by any professional 3rd party for any possible hidden defects as pointed out by Choudry.
Good Luck
Khalid Javaid (Dubai-UAE)

Nabeel Khan® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:21 PM PST 

dear Mrs Arsalan,

I may be able to assist you in finding a suitable house in Bahria Town. We keep a video record beginning from the foundation laying to finishing of houses. Currently 3 projects of 10 marla houses underway at different completion phases.

Please write to me on my email address if interested.

My email address is

Thank you

Nabeel Khan

Nabeel Khan® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:25 PM PST 

dear Mrs Arsalan,

I may be able to assist you in finding a suitable house in Bahria Town. We keep a video record beginning from the foundation laying to finishing of houses. Currently 3 projects of 10 marla houses underway at different completion phases.

Please
contact me if interested. Email:

Thank you

Nabeel Khan

visitor replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:27 PM PST 

Mr. Choudry and Khalid Javaid rightly pointed out the issues that should be considered before making the decision.consider these.
purchase from the trusted contractor or builder. enquire about his reputation from the market. visit his earlier built houses and sold. better to exchange words who purchased earlier. you can enquire from the neighbours about the quality of materials used. hire a technical person to evaluate the built house. if you want in Bahria 10 marla you can visit the newly constructed house cornor in front of akhtar saeed medical college. mr. shafique () builds and sale. the deal can be done through LRE as they know him.

Adeel replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:39 PM PST 

You can have a look at Zaamin villas at Fazaia Lahore. Payment is in installments and construction standard is reasonably good.

Waseem® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 09:16 PM PST 

@Mrs. Arsalan.

1st Tip: Avoid telling everyone & real estate agents that you are from abroad. This will save from you lots of trouble.
2nd Tip: Don;t rely on single estate agent.
3rd Tip: LRE can evaluate all properties in Bahria & DHA, so do check with them.

Adrees® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 09:35 PM PST 

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Adrees® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 09:37 PM PST 

Mr. Choudry and Khalid Javaid rightly pointed out the issues that should be considered before making the decision.consider these.
purchase from the trusted contractor or builder. enquire about his reputation from the market. visit his earlier built houses and sold. better to exchange words who purchased earlier. you can enquire from the neighbours about the quality of materials used. hire a technical person to evaluate the built house. if you want in Bahria 10 marla you can visit the newly constructed house cornor in front of akhtar saeed medical college. mr. shafique () builds and sale. the deal can be done through LRE as they know him.

Tariq replied on Friday, March 18, 2016 04:13 AM PST 

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Tariq replied on Friday, March 18, 2016 04:14 AM PST 

I live in USA. I am building my house and can provide you my feedback and possibly help. you can call me at

Ahmed Naeem replied on Friday, March 18, 2016 02:20 PM PST 

Mam,
While you visit Pakistan, do visit "Dream Garden" Defense Road. Almost all their build houses are purchased overseas... A very good society with compact environment. Construction Masters of M/s Izhar Construction are the partner of this project.

Do visit before taking decision.

SaeedUK® replied on Saturday, March 19, 2016 05:30 PM PST 

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(71715)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 02:08 PM PST 
Prism phase 9

Dear LRE team Fawad sb Salman Maqsood please evaluate prism phase 9 plot H 1343. Thanks

LRE® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 02:33 PM PST 

Dear Sir,


Prism Plot # H-1343 Around 72 To 73 Lacs


Salman Maqsood
Lahore Real Estate
+923224009967
Email:INFO@LREPK.Com
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(71714)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 01:52 PM PST 
Reply to 80482 post

Main Sab , i have created that post 80462.
My intention was just to understand the reason of price difference between already developed and long waiting developed Prism although their location is super class. I am planning to invest in Prism and i am not against any thing until i am getting return out of it.
The reason of just 15 min away from Ferzopur road is not justified for such high price difference.
Lahore map/Transportation systems and many other things might change by the time of 15 years until Prism is developed.
Why not we enjoy (so called bad location) on ground and in hand Phase 7 now rather we wait for Phase 9 for decades.
Not to forget DHA 7 is adjacent to 6 and 8 and altogether DHA 6,7,8 will be a huge consolidated . well established and active society in next decade. While DHA 9 will be still under development and will take at least 25 years to reach the point of fully developed and active society. At that time 15min away from Kalma chowk really lose its meaning.

I dont have any investment in DHA 7 and trust me i am not intended to invest there , but somehow prices seems attractive to me and i was curious to understand and foresee.

In property business, nothing is HARF E AKHIR... I remember DHA 9/10 file was bought by my uncle in 2007 in 53 Lax and in 2004/5 it was something like 86 Lax (Please correct me if i am wrong). And later a friend bought the same in 15 lax in 2010.

I am not discouraging any one and again i am trying to understand the things. I know ppl have invested from their pensions, for thir kids future for retirements etc and Same is the case with me. i have hard earned money and dont want to through anywhere without knowing and having understanding on things.

mian ifran replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 02:25 PM PST 

bhai mafi de do mafi de do maaaaaffff kar do

Asif replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 02:49 PM PST 

Mian bhai.. Jain maaf kia ;)

mian ifran replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:02 PM PST 

thanks

JK replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:03 PM PST 

Asif sahib tum joo kutch marzi likh loo Phase 7 BRB sa nikal nahi sakta, oh bahi
location matter karti haa. Tumhara Clients joo Phase 7 mn phansa howa hain wooo nahi niklna wala.

Kashif.K replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:05 PM PST 

Bhai No one tries to answer your query rather most replies are targetted at your views favouring phase 7. I will try to answer you briefly. The main idea is that most profits are withdrawn in Dha non posession items be it is in the form of
files or Non posession plots and it is observed that most investors dispose off their holdings before or very close to posession and cash it out and reinvest. While it doesnt mean that on ground plot doesnt give profits, offcourse they do but to a lesser extent than non developed plots. Therefore dear brother although phase 7 being physically on ground and developed is not much an investor focus than phase 9 where the real game is on and most transactions are taking place in prism.

Asif replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:05 PM PST 

Thanks for appreciation Adnan :)
I am not against Prims , I would love to buy until the price is justified, for me I am not convinced at all for this price.

To get a piece of land Just 15 mins away from Kalma chowk and 15 years wait for development doesn't seem sensible to me :(

Once DHA 8 is fully developed, may be it will be new center of Lahore, close to airport , Cantt and Mall road.

Furthermore, close to Boarder also doesn't mean for me.. It doesn't mean that my house or DHA7 is only at boarder. DHA 7 is joined with DHA 6 and 6 with 8. So all these phases are already closed to boarder.
DHA 7 Something like 17 Km, and DHA 6 is 22 km away.. So whats the difference?

Kashif.K replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:06 PM PST 

Bhai No one tries to answer your query rather most replies are targetted at your views favouring phase 7. I will try to answer you briefly. The main idea is that most profits are withdrawn in Dha non posession items be it is in the form of
files or Non posession plots and it is observed that most investors dispose off their holdings before or very close to posession and cash it out and reinvest. While it doesnt mean that on ground plot doesnt give profits, offcourse they do but to a lesser extent than non developed plots. Therefore dear brother although phase 7 being physically on ground and developed is not much an investor focus than phase 9 where the real game is on and most transactions are taking place in prism.

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:45 PM PST 

@Asif
You mentioned some important points somewhat similar to those I mentioned several times in previous posts and replies. Now, there are mainly two types of people in property business i.e. investors and genuine buyers time being leave about short term investors or others. Investors buy land and sell at profit then buy somewhere else always looking for highest percentage gain. Genuine buyers buy land purely for constructing home may be immediate or few years later.
Broadly speaking the percentage gain in developing sector/phase/society is far more than developed sector/phase/society. One of the key reasons is the possession premium i.e. you can always built a home on possession plot and get rental yield. Whereas in non-possession plot the gain is only from the land therefore gain is usually higher and faster. Yes you can counter that, there are few exceptions everywhere and always there but just time being assume that.
Now possession plot (good
location) in phase 7 S block is around 135-145. General perception is; as possession is handover, the juice is gone and price is peaked. Though I believe it’s undervalued (at least 15-20 lac). For developed plots, price rise steadily as construction activities pick up. So, I believe you will see at least 20 lac jump by the last quarter of this year and price will increase steadily 10-15% per year. But keep in mind the maturity price (on possession) in phase 7 was around 140. That too for one of the top blocks (S-block) and good location or clean plot.
Phase 9 is a developing phase (ideal for investors, and buyers intending to make home say after 10 years). As respected Mr. CMY, Mr. Ahmet, Mr. Mian, Mr. Opinion mentioned in their posts and replies, that location is better than phase 7, large number of parks, streets, ring road, huge commercial, better access point etc. So, one can say that decade ahead 9 will be better located/developed than 7. One thing I missed previously that is keep in mind the time factor. If phase 7 plot gain 70-90 lac in 4-5 years’ time the similar gain will happen in phase 9. Once developed and possession handover, Phase 9 (I believe) will priced comparable (little less or little more) to phase 7 (as there will be lot of houses/construction activities) in short term but in long term will be ahead than phase 7. Just like phase 8 now (without possession) is ahead than phase 7 (possession). The maturity price (on possession) of Prism will be more than that of phase 7. That’s what interests to investors. The development time is the most crucial part. As Mr. CMY mentioned that most of the land in Prism is possessed by DHA and that too is a level land. So, fast track development in 5 years’ time is challenging but not impossible. If you consider all these factors in mind, then current prices in Prism make sense. If somehow DHA manages to complete development in 5 years’ time then Prism holders will be the highest gainers. Though I believe, the possession will be in year 2025. Mr. ShahzadQamar believe possession will be in year 2023. Possession year is not that important factor for long term holders (as prices in both Phase 7 and 9 both will rise over the period of 6-7 years) but when the development take so long (if above 10 years) then there is a possibility that many investors loose the nerve to hold investment. So ups and downs can be expected (if development time is so long) otherwise no down is possible.
I hope I answered your curiosity.

Iftikhar Afzal replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:17 PM PST 

@ Asif. ur comments-
1. many other things might change by the time of 15 years until Prism is developed.
2. rather we wait for Phase 9 for decades.
3. While DHA 9 will be still under development and will take at least 25 years to reach the point of fully developed and active society.
4. 15 min away from Kalma chowk really lose its meaning.
So u already made up ur negative mind about phase 9. I wish u a happy life in phase 7.
Many property experts/Gurus including CMY passed following comments about phase 9 Prism-
1. phase 9 is future of DHA.
2. Its
location is excellent.
3. Huge roads and over 50 parks planned in phase 9.
4. Well connected with rest of DHA phases.
5. LRR, Phase 5 under pass, Ferozpur road and road from 9 Town (to Bedian raod and phase 6) are major approaches leading to phase 9.
6. Just adjacent to already developed areas of Lahore.
7. An excellent investment for 3 to 5 years duration.
8. Development work already inaugurated in feb 16.
9. Boundary wall work in progress.
10. Development will complete in approx 36 to 48 months. Now it may not be delayed as cost of work will increase manifold.
NOW
Let the people decide which phase is best for them for living/ investment. I pray that all people may live happily at their dream places and get maximum benefit out of their hard earned money.

tepu replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:48 PM PST 

I like the ph7 vs ph9 biased discussion. I did invest in both.
I have bought ph 7 for myself and phase 9 for my kids and their kids.

Farooq replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:15 PM PST 

not the people, but time will decide, by the grace of Allah

AhmetKildir® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 05:17 PM PST 

@tepu, adnan, asif,

I hope you guys will post with the same names starting April 1st when everyone has to post with a verified identity :)

25 years of development? seriously? Phase 1 was launched 25 years ago or so.

I'd give Prism 5 years. Maybe even 4 considering the tough competition Bahria is showcasing.

Subcon replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 06:39 PM PST 

@Ahmet, unsure of the point you are trying to make by implying that the guys you refer to should post by their 'verified' identity. There are actually some people in this world who like some sort of personal privacy without giving out too much. By inherently implying their opinions are less credible or repetitive is not quite classy to be honest.

I think both Prsim and Phase 7 are excellent phases of DHA and they both project excellent potential just at the different phases of an investment lifecycle!

Ahsan replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 08:07 PM PST 

In my humble opinion, Phase 7 is better positioned in short term for gain while prism is an ideal option for long term. Now lets evaluate some facts and draw conclusions from past;

1) Phase 7 is in growth stage of lifecycle and heading towards maturity stage in next 3 years. Consumers are paying for DHA brand rather than a
location in context of DHA.

2) Prism is in introduction stage and will reach growth stage once development charges complete i.e 2018. Now to sustain the activity and protect the brand image, I believethat DHA will give possession in some blocks and that will be in A , D, H and G. ( I think we need to consider the redefine the defiantion of upper and lower cutting. I think that Once the LRR complete than the blocks near to it will get quick completion because the main access is through LRR ring road.

3) In 2019, the Prism will enter growth stage and Phase 7 will become mature. from this point, real gains in Prism will emerge. As per my research all big societies, always develop few blocks to justify their existence.

4) In sum, an ideal investment which will face few bumps such as second half of 2016, 2017 stable, first hal fof 2018 due to elections. Ultimately, it will gain alot.

5) Now ...KEY POINT> DHA is a brand and since DHA is launching too many phases , it can be a possibility that it sets a price ceiling and price floor. In my opinion,Average plot will be anywhere between 190-220 and upper limit might be 3.5 crore for exceptionaly good locations. The main reason is as the price reach a premium level many substitutes appear even from the same brand such DHA.

Ahsan replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 08:08 PM PST 

In my humble opinion, Phase 7 is better positioned in short term for gain while prism is an ideal option for long term. Now lets evaluate some facts and draw conclusions from past;

1) Phase 7 is in growth stage of lifecycle and heading towards maturity stage in next 3 years. Consumers are paying for DHA brand rather than a
location in context of DHA.

2) Prism is in introduction stage and will reach growth stage once development charges complete i.e 2018. Now to sustain the activity and protect the brand image, I believethat DHA will give possession in some blocks and that will be in A , D, H and G. ( I think we need to consider the redefine the defiantion of upper and lower cutting. I think that Once the LRR complete than the blocks near to it will get quick completion because the main access is through LRR ring road.

3) In 2019, the Prism will enter growth stage and Phase 7 will become mature. from this point, real gains in Prism will emerge. As per my research all big societies, always develop few blocks to justify their existence.

4) In sum, an ideal investment which will face few bumps such as second half of 2016, 2017 stable, first hal fof 2018 due to elections. Ultimately, it will gain alot.

5) Now ...KEY POINT> DHA is a brand and since DHA is launching too many phases , it can be a possibility that it sets a price ceiling and price floor. In my opinion,Average plot will be anywhere between 190-220 and upper limit might be 3.5 crore for exceptionaly good locations. The main reason is as the price reach a premium level many substitutes appear even from the same brand such DHA.

Asif replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 08:54 PM PST 

Hello guys..
My intension is not to discourage or encourage any Phase.
I understand non developed plots have more margin and gives more return, But my question is simple; why it is so high at this stage?? although it will take another 10 years to grow.
Please refer my post 80462..

Agar isi speed say barhta raha to I blv k by the time of possession it will be highly expensive Phase of Pakistan..
just a wild guess, an average plot will be something like 3 Corror until possession.
I understand k waha bla bla amenities hain but kia ya sari amenities itni high price ko justify karti hain???

Ekrar® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 10:56 PM PST 

The rise in
prices of phase 7 is a big PLUS for prism holders as phase 7 prices will prove to be cap value for prism (as DHA lahore brand will continue to attract buyers and will continue to provide on ground alternative to them) until the development in prism reaches near possession when prism will out class phase 7.


So if ur investment is for 2 years,you may go for phase 7 but in the long run say 6-7 years, profit gain in prism will be twice that of phase 7.
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(71713)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 01:27 PM PST 
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(71712)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:59 PM PST 
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(71711)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 08:54 AM PST 
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(71710)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 07:36 AM PST 
NFC2

TEAM LRE AND ALL FRIENDS PLZ OFFER YOUR COMMENTS. NFC 2 MAI GHAR BANANE KE UMEED KAb TAK RAKHNI CHAHE. KITNE YEAR LAG SAKTE HAN MAZEED

CMY replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 08:00 AM PST 

3 to 5 years

Saeed Ud Din replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:09 PM PST 

Min 3 years After Complete Development of NFC2
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(71708)
Thursday, March 17, 2016 03:51 AM PST 
Evaluation of plot

LRE please evaluate below plot

Phase 9 H block. Plot 121. 1 kanal

Khawaja Saqib® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:01 AM PST 

Anyone from LRE could share evaluation about LDA Avenue 1 block K plot near 858 (10 Marla)

Hassan Niaz TeamLRE® replied on Thursday, March 17, 2016 04:13 AM PST 

Dear Sir
Your plot no H 121 Prism is around 80lacs
Hassan Atta Niaz
DHA Phase 9Prism, DHA Phase1-5
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Rashid Rafique replied on Saturday, March 19, 2016 12:32 AM PST 

Khawaja Saqib®
Your plot no 858 K near graveyard is around 32 Lack
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