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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:10 PM PST 
Zakat on Land bought to Hold

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105334: If the land does not sell, is zakaah due on it?

I have bought some land, intending to sell it when its value increases. But its value decreased and it did not sell, it remained in my possession for 10 years and its value did not increase, should I pay Zakah on it?.
Praise be to Allaah.

Land that is bought with the intention of selling it after a while when prices have increased is subject to zakaah, because it comes under the heading of trade goods.

The value of trade goods should be worked out at the end of the year based on the current market price, regardless of the price for which they were bought, and zakaah must be paid. The rate of zakaah is one quarter of one tenth.

See the answer to question no. 38886.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: I have a piece of land and I am waiting for the prices of land to go up so that I can sell it, and it has been several years. Should I pay zakaah on it?

He replied: If a person buys land to make a profit then the land does not sell and becomes cheaper, and he keeps it until the price goes up, then he must pay zakaah on it every year, because it comes under the heading of trade goods. If he does not have anything with which to pay the zakaah, and he cannot find a buyer, then he should work out its price at the time when zakaah becomes obligatory and work out its zakaah, and in the following year he should work out the zakaah on its value, then in the third year and so on. Then whenever he sells it he should pay the total amount of zakaah that he had calculated. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (18/225).

He was also asked about a person who bought some land with the aim of trading in it, but it remained in his possession for a number of years. Does he have to pay zakaah on it?

He replied: If a person buys land for trading, then he has to pay zakaah every year, whether the value increases or decreases, and whether it sells quickly or it does not sell. He should work out its value every year at the current market price, then if he has money he should pay its zakaah from the money that he has, and if he does not have any money he should work out the zakaah for each year, and when he sells it he should pay the zakaah for the past years. End quote from Liqa’ al-Baab al-Shahri (15/12).

And Allaah knows best.
Islam Q&A

http://islamqa.info/en/105334

SalmanKhan replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:22 PM PST 

JazakAllah for this comprehensive post

HHH replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:40 PM PST 

http://www.crescentsofbrisbane.org/
Files/Iqbal%20Lambat%20Ramadan/Week%204/8.%20Property.pdf

Property can be purchased to hold for the long term and realise rental income or it can be bought for speculative purposes to resell as soon as an appropriate gain can be realised.
1. Land
Dr Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, Dean of the University of Qatar, in responding to a question on whether land is subject to zakat, statesi: "The purchased land can be categorised as one of two types. The first type is purchased for resale after a period for profit. This type of purchase is a trade transaction and the land in this case is considered a commercial commodity. The land should be appraised annually to determine its value and then Zakah is paid at a rate of 2.5% of that value. This is the opinion of the majority of scholars. Only the followers of Imam Malik have a different opinion. They hold that the land is not subject to Zakah unless it is actually sold. The Zakah is 2.5% of the amount a person receives when the property is sold. The majority of scholars, however, consider this land as wealth and it is then subject to Zakah. This opinion is the most appropriate.
Land held for resale or being held to be developed is subject to zakat at the market value of the land.
"The second type is a land that is purchased to build on and not for resale. In this case, it is not subject to Zakah unless the owner has actually built on the land and rents out the property. Then, he should pay Zakah on the revenue derived from the rent."

Habib replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 08:54 PM PST 

what about Agri Land it Gives you crop and gain value as well, mY agri Land Gained 4 Times value in 12 years

Ashfaq Khan replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 09:28 PM PST 

Zakah on agricultural land.

Mu' meneen Brothers and Sisters,

As Salaam Aleikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh. (May Allah's Peace, Mercy and Blessings be upon all of you)

One of our brothers/sisters has asked this question:

is there zakat on agricultural land, if yes then how much? also zakat on industrial productions, and on saliried persons?

(There may be some grammatical and spelling errors in the above statement. The forum does not change anything from questions, comments and statements received from our readers for circulation in confidentiality.)

Answer:

Zakah on agricultural land

In the name of Allah, We praise Him, seek His help and ask for His forgiveness. Whoever Allah guides none can misguide, and whoever He allows to fall astray, none can guide them aright. We bear witness that there is none worthy of worship but Allah Alone, and we bear witness that Muhammad (saws) is His slave-servant and the seal of His Messengers.

Your Question: …is there zakat on agricultural land, if yes then how much?

Agricultural land is absolutely exempt from ‘zakah’ in Islam; thus even if one owns agricultural land worth millions of dollars, one is not liable to pay ‘zakah’ annually on that agricultural land itself.

The ‘zakah’ on agricultural land is determined from its produce:

If the land is irrigated naturally through rain the ‘zakah’ would be 10% of the produce of the land.
If the land is irrigated artificially through tube wells, tributaries, etc…the ‘zakah’ would be 5% of the produce of that land.

Your Question: …..also zakat on industrial productions

‘Zakah’ is not determined on the annual industrial production, but rather on the net value of the industrial business itself.

Your Question: …..and on saliried persons?

‘Zakah’ is not determined on the monthly/annual salary of the person, but rather on his net excess assets which he accumulates after paying all his expenses.

Thus if the annual salary of the person is 10,000 and his total annual expenses are 8,000; thus assuming the person has no other assets or savings upon which ‘zakah’ is due, he will be liable to pay ‘zakah’ on his savings of 2,000 at the rate of 2.50%.

Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allah’s Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me alone. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength.

Your brother and well wisher in Islam,

Burhan

http://www.islamhelpline.net/node/6949
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:09 PM PST 
Zakat on Land bought to Sell after some time

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38886: He bought some land in order to sell it after a while – how should he pay zakaah on it?

How should zakaah be paid on land which was bought with the aim of leaving it for a while then selling it?.
Praise be to Allaah.

If a person has bought land with the intention of selling it after a while, one of the following two scenarios must apply:

1 – He aims to save the money so that he will not spend it on anything else, but he does not intend to trade or make a profit. In this case there is no zakaah on the land.

See question no. 34802

2 – He does intend to trade and make a profit, in which case this land comes under the heading of trade goods, so zakaah must be paid on it.

The value of trade goods should be worked out at the end of one year on the basis of their current value, not the price for which they were bought, and the zakaah must be paid on them. The rate of zakaah that must be paid is one-quarter of one-tenth, i.e., 2.5%.

For example: if you bought land for one hundred thousand riyals, and when zakaah becomes due on it its value is now one hundred and fifty thousand riyals, then when one year had passed you must pay the zakaah of one hundred and fifty thousand riyals. The converse also applies. If you bought it for one hundred thousand riyals and when one year has passed its value is now only fifty thousand riyals, then you only have to pay zakaah on fifty thousand riyals.

See Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 9/334; Fataawa wa Rasaa’il al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 18/205, 236

Note:

It should be noted that the year for reckoning zakaah on trade goods does not begin from the time one bought the land or other product, rather it begins from the time when the wealth with which you bought those goods reached the nisaab (minimum threshold).

Based on this, the year for this land is the year for the money with which you bought it.

See question no. 32715.
Islam Q&A

http://islamqa.info/en/38886

SalmanKhan replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:21 PM PST 

JazakAllah for this comprehensive post
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:48 PM PST 

Dear CMY & LRE Staff,

can we send you the file no. & data for 9 town files as well to check the ballot status or you are checking the proper 9 files only?

Thanks in advance for your time.

CMY replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:51 PM PST 

Can send Both DHA9 or DHA town.
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:48 PM PST 
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:41 PM PST 

Phase 9 - 1 Kanal
Experts,
In your opinion where do you see the estimated price of 1 Kanal in Phase 9 -- 6 months post the ballot on 15th May?

secondly, what's your estimate of the maximum 1 Kanal file will reach leading up to the 15th of May?

Regards,

MNI

Maroof replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:12 PM PST 

Please also comment on expected price of 5,10 marla in Phase 9 AFTER 6-12 months.
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:39 PM PST 
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:52 PM PST 

With 1000s of files info to my surprise I see very huge numbers of 5 marla and 10 marla files holders in DHA Phase 9 Prism.

So getting a bad location plot now in DHA9 is further reduced in this phase due large numbers of smaller plots.


In past DHA gave the worst possible locations to 5 marla file like Y in DHA8 because 5 marla files were so few but It MAY change in DHA9 Prism with many 5 marla full blocks of 5 or 10 marla alone.

Choudry Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )

Habib replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:06 PM PST 

It means DHA 6, and 7, 8 will remain for Kanal Lovers?

khan replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:09 PM PST 

hmmm.... what are the approx development charges for 5 marla?

Wasim Akhtar replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:20 PM PST 

CMY replied on Friday, May 1, 2015 11:21 PM PST


Also

DHA Lahore Phase 9 Proper Expected Development Charges

5 Marla = 7 Lacs
10 Marla = 14 Lacs
1 Kanal = 19 Lcas


99% confirmed news.


Choudry Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
Info@LREPK.Com

syed shoaib replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:20 PM PST 

Snall dealers and investor will rip you down all 5 marla holders , stay firm to gain most . Hold
files dont get panic

Aamir replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:20 PM PST 

Dear CMY,
I have not recieved any intimation letter from DHA regarding my plot number and installment detail etc in 8Z ivy green.
Does any one else has recived or not. do i have to
contact DHA or still have to wait??

CMY replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 05:27 PM PST 

Aamir bhai Insha Allah you will get it within 90 days after ballot. No need to call DHA
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:51 PM PST 
Phase 9 - 1 Kanal

Experts,
In your opinion where do you see the estimated price of 1 Kanal in Phase 9 -- 6 months post the ballot on 15th May?

secondly, what's your estimate of the maximum 1 Kanal file will reach leading up to the 15th of May?

Regards,

MNI
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:43 PM PST 

Dear,
Please let me know what will the best investment after phase-9 balloting?
Have to sale and invest in new place or hold the 05 marla file.
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:39 PM PST 
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:34 PM PST 

Ad Type
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
For Sale
state life
2
ff
177
5 marla
Dear lahore real estate team.i have aplot in state life phase 2. I want to sell it.what is ur experienced advice.

Lahore Real Estate replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 09:33 PM PST 

Dear Sir,
In current market your plot is around 12 lacs

Ch Saeed
Lahore Real Estate
+923224333661
Email:INFO@LREPK.Com
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:31 PM PST 

Dear CMY I hope & pray for your health. you are always kind to all the people on this forum & answers the people query's at your level best without any intrest. I appericiate the LRE team for all the breaking news regarding phase 9 ballot.
In Shaa Allah i would certainely like to meet you when you visit pakistan. Plz don't forget to metioned regarding your visit to pakistan. I would like to ask you what would you suggest a holding time period for DHA MULTAN file if I buy it today as you suggest it for good short term investment?
when did its ballot expected in your opnion as i have very short buget? AS i have set a side this amount for kids education.
your sincere advice will be highly apprciated.
Thanks once again
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:29 PM PST 

Salam CMY sahab. Hope u are in good health by the grace of Allah. It's about DHA 9 TOWN LAHORE (Shuhada town ). 5 marla files. Please advise about the following.
1. when do you expeCT it's balloting and development work start
2. Whether development start first or bollotting
3. What is the expected price range after possession
4. Is this a good investment
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 12:03 PM PST 

reinvest
Dear Jameel sab/
thanks for all valuable inputs about current real situation.
i am holding two 5 marla and two 10 maral files in phase 9.is it right time to sale any of them and get good location one lanal plot in phase 5M .i have some money to adjust the funds.
thanks

Jameel replied on Wednesday, May 6, 2015 04:11 AM PST 

still that is good idea, Though
prices came down a bit, if prices go further down then Hold But It also depends at what price you bought, If you wait for ballot then Better sell it after 12 Months or so when low priced plots will be absorbed, but may be at that time M Block will be expensive,
M Block is best located as Compared to DHA 9, It does Not have access issue. travelling 2 Km to interchange is Not issue Travelling 7,8 KM for Interchange will be an issue.
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:44 AM PST 

Asslam o Aliqum CMY sb and other experts on this forum.

My question is regarding DHA Multan and Gujranwala.

Are foriegn Pakistanis purchase property in these 2 projects on their name, where they can't able to visit Pakistan.

However their relative may present on their behalf in Lahore/Multan or Gujranwala.

Regards. :flg

CMY replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 02:11 PM PST 

Yes you can buy it with traveling to Pakistan as long as you have CNIC NICOP POC


All frineds I am too busy right now in sending back ballot check email. 100s emails sent today but still 100s friends left. I am done till April 30th entries. I will not be able to post here till i am done with updating all my expat friends. On page you got 100s friends to help each but they are looking for my help in ballot check and waiting too long for my input. So please forgive me for 1 day absence today and let me finish 1st as time is running out if any correction address changes etc are need. Please assist each other. You all know every thing now that I know. So be kind to all who need to learn.

Will try y best to recheck page again every couple of hours. Only thing you may have to know is 1st day DHA opened after ballot announcement and saw more sellers than buyers at end of day. I will
update and explain you why. Right now buyers 38% sellers 62%.


YESTERDAY was a historic day in DHA.


Choudry Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )

HHH replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 03:52 PM PST 

Dear CMY
Please elaborate. Larger number of sellers means lower
prices? Why historic day?

Z.F replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 04:39 PM PST 

why more sellers at last day and yesterday was historic day ??? Kindly explain it ...

UAE replied on Saturday, May 9, 2015 09:13 PM PST 

Due to panic, since very long people were waiting for the ballot as of now date is confirmed, people are confused at this stage where they should not be. If this situation people gets confuse then why they always wait for the ballot news. Whatever has been written in ur destiny u must get that. So it makes not any sense for u if u stay here or move somewhere else in confusion. The most important rule in it for the dealers who want to make money on transfer. As I feel about Myself this is the real time to stay confirmed, if ur destiny is strong now a days u must get well profit here. This is the same phase 9 where a lots of people have made good profit and same some of them lost big amount and time. First believe in Allah Grace second in u then others because u r the only one for u lost and profit. May Allah bless all of us

UAE replied on Saturday, May 9, 2015 09:17 PM PST 

Due to panic, since very long people were waiting for the ballot as of now date is confirmed, people are confused at this stage where they should not be. If this situation people gets confuse then why they always wait for the ballot news. Whatever has been written in ur destiny u must get that. So it makes not any sense for u if u stay here or move somewhere else in confusion. The most important rule in it for the dealers who want to make money on transfer. As I feel about Myself this is the real time to stay confirmed, if ur destiny is strong now a days u must get well profit here. This is the same phase 9 where a lots of people have made good profit and same some of them lost big amount and time. First believe in Allah Grace second in u then others because u r the only one for u lost and profit. May Allah bless all of us
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Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:22 AM PST 
NEED ADVICE FOR 4 MARLA COMMERCIAL FOR BROADWAY PHASE 8

Dear CMY,
Aoa,
. Dear may ALLAH bless u with gud health. I wanted to enquire about the prospects of investing in 4 Marla commercial file BROADWAY phase 8 as right now it is priced at 220 lacs. Will it be a good investment. Your expert advice is needed.
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(61743)
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 06:03 AM PST 
Investors from Karachi

Dear CMY
When big investors from Karachi visit your office nowadays, what housing societies and plot sizes do you recommend them to buy for investment?
I am interested to know where all that money will end up so that I can follow its trail :-)
Regards

Khalid replied on Tuesday, May 5, 2015 01:33 PM PST 

Dear HHH,
Safe and Secure societies by funds and living are:
DHA Lahore, WAPDA Town phase 1, NFC phase 1, Tech Society, PCSIR phase 1 & 2. Plot sizes depend on your investment figure.
Normally 10 marla and 1 kanal are preferred.
If you want to build triple storey, want to do semi commercial work then only WAPDA Town phase 1 is the best option.
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