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Tuesday, February 16, 2016 03:35 PM PST 
Expert opinion required

What are the chances that DhA-Town,s 120 feet road will be joined with R block near 216 R block?
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Thursday, February 11, 2016 01:22 PM PST 
Where to invest in Prism R block?

A lot of people are asking about where to invest in the R block. This is my personal opinion (disclaimer: my personal opinion = my personal opinion. Please know that I do not have any investments in R block yet and there is no vested interested of mine to promote R block).

- I would strongly suggest investing in ‘clean’ plots around the APARTMENTS and PLAYGROUND. By clean plots, i mean plots that are not facing school, farmhouse, waterworks, boundary or masjid. It hurts me to say this but masjid plots are relatively more difficult to sell because of the traffic that accumulates during prayer times.
- All 10 marla plots on the 120’ road are gold plots. Just make sure they are not too close to the factory.
- All 5 marla plots on the 60’ road close to the playground are gold plots.
- All corner plots close to the park, apartments and playground are diamond pots (except for the ones facing the masjid, the boundary or the water works).

Sohail replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 03:16 PM PST 

Dear Ahmet,

Thanks for the information.

I would like to know the market value of 5 marla and 10 marla plots facing big road near to park.

Ahmet replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 03:48 PM PST 

I dont know the updated market prices for R block but for a best location 5 marla plot i.e. any 22XX series clean plot or a 23XX facing 60" road, I would pay up to 41 maximum. For a great location 5 marla plot i would pay up to 37 maximum. For a best location 10 marla 27XX facing 120" road, I would pay up to 57 maximum. For a great location 10 marla I would pay up to 53 maximum. Anything below these prices would be a 'great buy' and we should go for it immediately.




opinion replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 03:56 PM PST 

Dear Ahmet many people are of the view that dha has acquired land on the other side of the boundary near the site where apartments are located on map i.e 60 feet road can be extended and boundary will be eliminated and new files of 9 town could land there hence will boost R block plots near apartments. what your knowledge says about it?

Ahmet replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 04:07 PM PST 

@opinion. I have no knowledge of it. Sorry. What I can assure you is R block is DHA's sweetheart. :)

opinion replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 04:17 PM PST 

Yeah! agreed :-)

Imran replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 07:53 PM PST 

Respected readers,

I just saw, R block on map and wondered that Hudira Drain is very close. More than half of the R block will feel the smell in specific months. I just surprise that nobody has considered this issue. At least property experts can throw some light on this issue.

Habib replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 09:01 PM PST 

No offense intended to stake holders but for new investors in my opinion R Block is Lowest cutting and farthest from Ferozepur Road, If you see 6,7 map, it is almost same distance from A Block phase 6 to T Block phase 7 Lowest Cutting. In long run it will not be good investment to hold unless appartments made and some pockets are cleared. J Block Upper Cutting is Much more superior in all respects. Murkee etc is Not going let it gain see the old DHA Club surrounding Blocks it has no positive imnpact on them.

investment solutions replied on Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:51 PM PST 

there is much difference between phase 7 T block and R prism. there is nothing alluring in T phase 7 but in R prism there will be apartments plus very close theme park will make R block very busy area. there will be lot of hustle bustle in R due to these to factors.

MUZZAMIL replied on Friday, February 12, 2016 12:48 AM PST 

i,ve got plot near 218 R , before selling it i,m hoping that Dha-Town,s 120 feet road will be joined with R block near it and it wont be boundary facing anymore.What are the prospects of that happening @Ahmet?
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Sunday, February 7, 2016 11:51 AM PST 

Dear LRE Team , I signed NDC for this plot for 93 lacs with dealer saying (market is not good ) but on Thursday when i came to Lahore from Pindi ..other dealers were offering 120 lacs ( 2 installments paid as well as I am a retired army officer)..
What can i do now ? i dont want to sell it for 93 ( dealer has taken 4 weeks time and given me 5 lacs biyana )


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farah replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 01:25 PM PST 

cancel deal

dubai replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 02:30 PM PST 

you are stuck. best way is to negotiate and return the biana amount 5 lac rs plus 5 lacs penalty for not fullfilling the agreement incase yu have signed biana. dealer can also take stay on yur plot if yu have signed biana and back off now which will take considerable and long painful legal procedure to deal with. best way is give them 10 lacs with proper documentation if worth is really 120 lac

humayun replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 02:47 PM PST 

Where is this plot. i mean in which phase of dha.

Habib replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 06:24 PM PST 

Most Imp is to Know to Correct Worth of Plot, My realtive Bought a Plot in 68, Plot next to it is being advetised for 4 weeks in 82 by some Colonel, If Minimal difference go ahead.

Waseem Amjad replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 07:29 PM PST 

Plot is C-4 DHA Phase 9 Prism ( 2 installments already paid i mean 19-4 ) so now u have to pay 15 lacs only

Habib replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 08:32 PM PST 

Correct worth of Plot is about 110, But may be when you applied for NOC the Plot was 100, it must have taken 30 to 45 days and could have taken even 90 days. In that period it gained another,Keep in mind NOC Plots are offered less money as price can go down as well If Plot was 100, 93 was right offer. Now Opposite happened it is justified benfit of risk taker. However Convince him to pay you bit more.

Dude replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 08:37 PM PST 

Deal agreed at 93. Addition of 15 into it as dc, makes it 108. Further addition of transfer charges of around 2, would make it 110 for the buyer. You have already earned reasonable gains on it, that too within very shot time. Let the buyer enjoy further gains, for which he would require years, to be honest. Cancellation of this deal neither favours you nor the buyer. Please follow your obligations and proceed ahead for its finalization.

Ahmed pak replied on Monday, February 8, 2016 02:57 PM PST 

If u have not signed any agreement or sale deed, and just taken token, then it is not necessary for u to complete this deal, the dealer may get stay from court. But cannot make u sell it.

Dude replied on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:06 AM PST 

Waseem saab there is an option, as u said u r an army officer
kindly go to legal branch of dha there is farooq butt saab therw
inform him that dealer has lied to you about the market
and tried to rip u off, he will take your case to director
transfer and will force dealer to renegotiate with you
as dealer is making a huge margin over it, ndc canot
be applied without the prwsence of seller buyer now
do quickly and take ur case ti dirextor transfer and legal
branch

Naveed replied on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:06 AM PST 

Must be in prism.

MUZZAMIL replied on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:06 AM PST 

disappear from scene for 2-3 months and sell laters if u think you are betrayed by dealer.

Faraz replied on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:06 AM PST 

1. Was biana given to you in the presence of buyer ?
2. Was any clause permitting further sale of plot on yet another biana, included in your biana deed ?
3. was buyer's name mentioned on NDC or you signed blank NDC and handed it over to dealer for processing with DHA ?
4. What is end date of 4 weeks time, and has DHA given the date for transfer ?

Habib replied on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:06 AM PST 

I was tempted to advise you as you are in the Army.
1. Ask Director Transfer in DHA.
2. Take your COMMANDER on board.
3. If it is OK with both of them:-
a. Forgo your Biyana.
b. Cancel your NDC.
The dealer may take a court stay order or pressure you through service channels.Keep your plot for 6 months and try to save from loss.

Tulsi replied on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 04:10 AM PST 

Since your stance is genuinely strong, you may exercise all or any of the following options :

1. Step back from the signed deal, take on board your commander and Director Transfer, without leaving an impression that you are a greedy man, have no ethics and running after the money.

2. Ask the buyer to increase the price contrary to agreed deal. If he dares refusing it, either confiscate his biana or return it without penalty, and tell him that you are a characterless retired officer who can do anything.

3. Disappear from the scene for 6 months, and cause him as much loss as possible.

Neelum replied on Wednesday, February 10, 2016 01:42 PM PST 

Isn't it that he signed the deal because he had no other better offer and accepted biana because he needed it for clearance of plot dues and release of NOC. Date of acceptance of biana and date of payment of his final dues, can be helpful but I doubt he would ever share it or come out with the facts. Didn't even feel shy to disclose his identity and plot number. Lets pray, he cancels the deal first, and plot's worth falls below 80 thereafter, and remains stagnant for years.
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Saturday, February 6, 2016 06:09 PM PST 

i am fed up with people saying phase 9 will be developed in 5-7 years reason being dha management failed to develop and handover phase 7 and phase 8 within 3 years. bhai there was lots of ligation problem in phase 7 which caused an unwanted delay in possession similarly too much deep land in phase 8 was played a major role in slow development pace. phase 9 neither has litigation issue nor land is unreasonably deep which would stop dha not to develop hence handover it within 3 years.
i believe in Dha`s promise to develop it within 3 years
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Ahmed replied on Saturday, February 6, 2016 06:30 PM PST 

What is bad even if get developed in 5 to 7 Years. Prices are going up constantly. Last year gain was 40% of upper cutting plots

Mir replied on Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:14 PM PST 

Sheer size of Phase 9 makes three years impossible.

Mir replied on Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:15 PM PST 

They won't even be able to complete Pentasquare in three years, let alone Prism.

Atiq replied on Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:48 PM PST 

They would leave all projects and complete prism first.

dubai replied on Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:01 PM PST 

Dha 9 town is i think size of only one block of Prism. land is leveled and there are no villages/ litigation issues. yet DHA took around 4 years to develop it.

Ahmed pak replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 01:35 AM PST 

@opinion
Please don't take this 5-7 year prediction for development of ph9 serious. Dha Lahore will develop pH 9 all blocks until jan 31 2019.even if they don't give complete possession of ph8 &ph7 until 2019.your approach is very practical and realistic.

Khush raho replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 03:16 AM PST 

Naa 9 mann taill ho ga, na raadha naachay gee..

MUZZAMIL replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 02:42 PM PST 

R block will be handed within 3 years from today , MARK MY WORDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

investment solution replied on Sunday, February 7, 2016 05:21 PM PST 

not only R but A P C B also within 3 years

shazi replied on Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:06 AM PST 

relax people,prism is not end of the world,all this fight between supporters of prism n dha 7 has made me decide not to buy neither.money is sitting in the bank rotting.it gives me headache thinking what to do with 60 lacs?
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Thursday, February 4, 2016 07:25 AM PST 

Dear CMY, Ahmet, LRE team and all respected property Gurus,

Today I received my allotment letter and got surprised to see my plot no. Changed from B-245 to E-488 in Prism.

Could you please advise whether this new location is better or not as compared to previous.

I will be grateful if you can evaluate it's current price and also advise whether I should keep it or sell.

Thanks
Kind regards,

opinion replied on Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:24 AM PST 

not possible that dha change your location. be sure that you really saw B-245 in the ballot result list against your file reference number?

Jameel Mughal® replied on Friday, February 5, 2016 07:10 AM PST 

E 488 is bit better

MUZZAMIL replied on Friday, February 5, 2016 07:10 AM PST 

u must have seen OLO file result instead of OL which is for civilians.i also got my R block letter yesterday

Ahmet replied on Monday, February 8, 2016 09:20 PM PST 

Your new plot is a whole lot better.
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Thursday, February 4, 2016 01:51 AM PST 

Hi all! I know this is not completely relevant to the kind of forum this is but nevertheless its always good to get advice from wherever one can.

I have recently purchased a 1 kanal plot in prism with a view to build a house 5 years down the line. I currently own and live in a 12 marla house in Askari 8. The plan is to sell this house (Askari) and use the money for construction when prism is ready.

My question is: what is the best way to finance the construction. Should I

a) sell Askari first, and live on rent for a year until construction is complete:

b) use Askari house as collateral to take out a loan from a bank for construction

Or are there any other options?

I know im planning wayyy ahead of time but i just want to be mentally prepared for the decision.

Thanks

Fantastic Idea replied on Thursday, February 4, 2016 02:07 AM PST 

Sell your house and buy some more plots in prism. On possession in prism you can sell one of those additional plots to meet constructional requirement on one kanal plot. Till then you can stay in rental house.

Hassan replied on Thursday, February 4, 2016 06:03 PM PST 

Rent aap bhar dijiye ga bhai please.

MUZZAMIL replied on Friday, February 5, 2016 07:10 AM PST 

i,d suggest u to sell the house few months before starting construction.get a house on rent near to ur new construction (the nearer the better)
avoid bank loan IMO

sam replied on Friday, February 5, 2016 03:50 PM PST 

AOA,Bro sell your apartment before construction to carry out construction of new house. Avoid going on rent now if u dont have a healthy and permanent alternate source of earning.If good and permanent source of earning available till u start construction then invest in 2 small/med size plots to dispose off sccessively before / during construction.Regards
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Wednesday, February 3, 2016 12:22 AM PST 

START OF DEVELOPMENT WORK IN PRISM

Most likely the work would start as per following sequence
1. Development of major roads (150 & 120 feet) all over the phase
2. Development of 2-3 blocks simultaneously.
3. In my point of view it will start from A, B & Q blocks (personnel assessment based on location, no work on LRR, easy accesses from already developed areas etc). It may skip B block temporarily due to a large excluded area.


Thus In my point of view it is going to be
A & Q

Followed by C,D, P & R

ANY EXPERT OPINION?

Ekrar replied on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 01:03 AM PST 

It should start from A(alphabetically :D), being close to developed area!

The block from which development starts would turn out to be the ultimate winner as there are significant chances of its early completion(within 2 years may be!) as then development would move towards other blocks. So that particular block will start competing the prices of Phase 8 and/or 6!!!!

Ekrar replied on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 01:08 AM PST 

Sector A is:

1): very well planned,
2): easy to get developed
3): linked with already developed area
4): More plots of army personnel, Dha staff here
5): independence from construction of LRR
6): face saving for DHA to take the plea that it started construction alphabetically

MUZZAMIL replied on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 01:25 AM PST 

A and R for obvious reasons

Khalid replied on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 02:11 AM PST 

Ekrar i think u hav solid logic to support ur point.....
However (without disagreeing with ur point) i think DHA will start on at least 2-3 block simultenously to keep the people guessing & keep tge prices high.....
Moreover approach road to / along A is common with Q & then to R so

lets see wat is in the bag of DHA
I am convinced that they will start from direction of DHA TOWN & most likely with two blocks at one time or even three (adding B)

Wat ever they do i hope they do it quick & early
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Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:46 AM PST 

Bahria townLahore Non-Construction Charges Policy
Posted: 26 Jan 2016 09:38 AM PST by Hussain Kaisrani
Bahria Town Lahore management imposed Non-Construction charges of Rs.500,000/= per year for 1 Kanal plots with effect from February 28, 2016. This is applicable to all projects for which possession was announced more than 3 years ago. Bahria Town Lahore Sector C and Bahria Orchard phase 1 members are specially affected by this decision.
Bahria Town Lahore announced possession of its Sector C plots around 7 years ago. As per Bahria Town policy the non construction charges were applicable after three years of possession announced (without an affect whether an owner applied for possession or not). This decision of Bahria Town is a tactic to populate the area. With the start of construction activity in the area, the business activities boost up followed by increase in the market rate of plots.

We should understand that Bahria Town is not a missionary organisation. It keeps on taking steps and measures that investors and buyers are attracted to its projects. When members are in the position to earn high, it is then Bahria Town's time to take its share from their high level profit.

The ground reality is that the rates of Bahria Town Sector C possession plots have increased at least Rs.15 Lac during last one year. This trend does not seem changing in near future due to limited supply and high demand for Sector C plots. The uncertainty issue of Lahore Ring Road Route has made the Sector C and other possession plots first choice of contractors and residents. Bahria Town management understands this fact and wants to take its share either from profit, construction fees or transfer fees. Whatever decision an owner of possession plot takes, Bahria Town will be earning at least Rs.500,000/= from a 1 Kanal plot.

This non construction fee is likely to increase in coming years. If members have no plans to construct a home on its plot, it is better to shift the investment in other projects. Even within Bahria Town projects there are many options where non construction charges are not yet applicable.

Shah replied on Thursday, January 28, 2016 06:57 PM PST 

Mr Raza
Only one kanal plot or every size of plot will effected non constraction charges.

Habib replied on Thursday, January 28, 2016 07:03 PM PST 

all but different rates

Amir replied on Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:11 PM PST 

Aoa.what will be the non construction charges on 5marla plot in bahria orchard??

kkkkkk replied on Thursday, January 28, 2016 10:18 PM PST 

There is no plenty for non construction in bahria orchard phase 2 or lco or loc phase, as plent is fr possesion plots over 3 years.. in orchard 2 people dnt have possesion once possesion given then 3 years will strt.lets say charges may b applied in 2019 if possesion givn in this.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:05 AM PST 

Many thanks Raza Sahib for sharing this post here. I am sorry that I missed to post it here.
The complete post is available on following link:
http://kaisrani.blogspot.com/2016/01/change-in-bahria-town-lahore-non.html

Ali replied on Friday, January 29, 2016 12:25 AM PST 

Hello,

Can you please let us know how much is non construction plenty for 10 marla in Jasmine block (Sector C).

Thanks

jamz replied on Friday, January 29, 2016 02:45 AM PST 

when was posession announced for overseas-B?
how much penalty for 10 marla?

MUZZAMIL replied on Friday, January 29, 2016 08:05 AM PST 

when was posession announced for overseas-B?
how much penalty for 10 marla?

Raza replied on Saturday, January 30, 2016 01:24 AM PST 

I called Bahria town office and found that this fine will be only on sector A & B one Kanal plots only.
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