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(38192)
Monday, March 2, 2009 02:39 PM PST 
Wapda Town Manooabad

pair plot No. 423-424-G 1-Kanal plots are available for sale, Price Rs. 300,000/each, it is a good investment.
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(38191)
Monday, March 2, 2009 02:31 PM PST 
Appartment For Sale in Phase IV, DHA

Appartment for Sale in PHase IV, Facing Bait ul Salam Masjid, corner, 2 Bed, Drawing, TV Lounge, Kitchen, Ist floor, without mezzanine, for visit or further details please contact.

Irfan Zafar Vohra
Shaukat Enterprises
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(38189)
Monday, March 2, 2009 11:30 AM PST 
Furnished, Family Guest Rooms with bath and kitchen in Lahore

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with bath and kitchen in model town, Lahore.

please see this page for details
http://baytalhabib.wordpress.com/

or email at

Guest from Riyadh replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 02:59 PM PST 

DO we have similar in Islamabad/ Rawalpindi? Please share if you have
contact numbers.
Thanks
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(38188)
Monday, March 2, 2009 03:46 AM PST 
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(38187)
Monday, March 2, 2009 12:17 AM PST 
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(38185)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 11:49 PM PST 

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I totally agree with my brother Azhar Syed from Manchester, which is nothing but all truth. I would like to add to his righteous observations, Pakistan a country where you find Muslims very less, where common social practices are even worst than the non believers. Where Even religion has been mutilated for money, politics etc.
A country about to be apart. Exact situation as of 1971. A country where its army does not know with whom they are fighting with criminals?talibans?RAW?america/Israel?any other country? Or collateral damage? Politicians the worst lot of ALL except Imran Khan(but lesser capabilities). Country where looters, murders, corrupts, manipulators, Judges, police, politicians, govt officers and serving generals say THEY have all the right to play with our country and lives, lives of our children and they will never be answerable.
We don’t need lawyers, Imran Khan, or a leader or Nawaz sharief son to save us but a nation which we are not.
If we were a nation or a little Muslim we all would have strength to end this tomorrow.
Dead people, zombies, heartless knowing well that soon Hindus and western effective forces would eventually disintegrate PAKISTAN giving lot of money and buying our generations. This is what QURAN/history of nations says.
A country where being shrief is a GALLI. Muslim Brother Azhar Syed I understand your grief(I have also faced hell for being patriotic Pakistani and still facing it) .MAY ALLAH give more strength to your and all Muslims hearts. AMEEN,
Often visit this site and write/comment seldom. But today compelled to support you after reading comments of another visitor who was calling your thoughts cancerous. I am sure and you are right they haven’t ever experienced being a patriotic Pakistani never experienced the cruelties and brutalities of our owners and system (their homes and lives never bombed, never been looted by police, never been subjected to years of manipulation by judges, threats by Qabza groups and body guards of politicians/ They would even say not to discuss situation of PAKISTAN on property forum as it would disturb their game of property property/peace of mind.
They will never come out of their sweet homes, even if you were standing right outside their houses, this is a gone nation.
Nations /people make great countries and nations break them. No Zardari, Nawaz sherief or other bad leader would do it, they are doing it themselves .Some time it appears to me
We have in abundance all the traits of doomed nations, most commonly (kum tolna aur faraoon ke zamane ka zulm).

Azher bhai if you ever come to Pakistan for some patriotic cause I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you. Sending/msging my cell number on your Email.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Usman Rawalpindi

EU replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 06:43 AM PST 

Congress chief Sonia Gandhi on Sunday said the diplomatic pressure from New Delhi left Islamabad with no choice but to admit
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Diplomacy-forced-Pakistan-to-admit-2611-link-Sonia/articleshow/4209381.cms

Drone Attacks Inside Pakistan Will Continue, CIA Chief Says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/25/AR.html

Is govt. of Pakistan going to respond above claims?

aa replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 09:25 AM PST 

ok situation is bad
what r you guys doing about it...
trying to spread negative rumours...
praying from your dear hearts that kaffir forces walk over only viable muslim army.......while you sit safely in same countries with no social respect..... praying that pakistan would disintegrate....
aik baat yaad rakho

dushmanaan maryaan khushi na karyee,,sajna ve mar jaana....
aur
izzat ka aik din ..zilat ke 100 saloon say behtar hay...
i can only feel sory for you

TheReality replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 03:16 PM PST 

Dear 'aa' i dont get your point...... especially when u say "izzat ka aik din ..zilat ke 100 saloon say behtar hay...". well this is RIGHT and means that we all should not compromise with USA and have our own say.......BUT what is our own SAY?????? frankly speaking i only see TALIBAN who have their own SAY and they are fighting to implement it (does not matter if u like it or not)......but all rest of pakistanis have american SAY only.

anyhow i totally agree with brother Usman and Azhar. I came back to Pakistan from USA after studies with a hope to make some difference; but let me tell u that after working for years with some top and senior most government officials who can change financials of Pakistan and also with very common people on streets.... i have realized almost none of them is sincere with pakistan but for themselves only. i have lived and worked in karachi, lahore, islamabad and believe me every single person is corrupt. i have met several people who say they want to change the system but when i ask them to start from yourself ... they disappear. i have noticed that people dont mind injustice if they r being benefited.... but protest (by talking) only if injustice is not benfitting them.

after spending so many years in pakistan i am again planning to leave this country .... not to come back again.

Arzoo and friend replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 09:55 PM PST 

Mr eality read under below !!!
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Arzoo and friend replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 05:49 PM PST

All my friends! this is for your information that news paper mafia is helping corrupion in all governament departments (The way they are using is getting some proof from insider than they are calling that big man and used to start blakmailing.
This is hapen with me when i was in OGDCL (PAKISTAN)MR Khushnod Ali was in daily 'Khabrian" Me and my friend handed over him complet file of corruption done by G-Mananager with proof in 1990 .(Mr Khushnood Ali set deal with that General Manager and haded over this file to him I have sean this file with that guy .After that we started digging the fact and we came to know from news papers insider that 90% Crime reporter doing like that.
I am out side the contry since 1992 Some time i have sen Khushnood Ali as a Anker person of One TV channel.

I share this experience with you all of my friend to know the reality only. Kamran Lashari and others are Big lootrs With help of media

Azher syed replied on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 05:28 AM PST 

Dear Usman Bhai,
Whenever my heart bleeds it’s for Pakistan, I am sorry but I am not ashamed to admit that my family was never my priority, it was a common poor Pakistani to whom I was committed to serve. People on this forum will think I am mad for what I did whole of my life, just listening to my conscious. I was a high cadre officer but I did not do what most of the high ranking officer of Pakistan administration are doing. Every individual who is in the Government organisations has some targets in mind, I am sorry I was the lone guy who had no financial targets set during his entire service until the day I had to bid farewell to my dream country. It was with heavy heart, that I left my home land after I was chosen by the World Bank for a Ph.D. post-graduate Degree; having completed my degree I felt I was the lone reveller on the path of what I called serving the “poor creatures” of almighty Allah. I don’t want to drag you guys into my bitter experiences but would quote here briefly one or two examples..While I was at Karachi, I was going to see the Minister of the Department I was serving in, one person who I had seen couple of times at the Sindh Secretariat building gates, crossed my path, he had an application of his nephew for the grade 1 post (usually peons/chokidar) in his hand, this guy was from the rural areas of Sindh (Perhaps from the District of Larkana). What he said was”could you help my nephew in the name of God” I took this application with me and while I was getting some official papers signed by the minister X, I asked the Minister to mark it as “seen” and put his initials on it (Ministers do not appoint grade 1 employees) and I said I will issue his orders. Minister X stopped and asked me “who has recommended him? I said he is god sent, Ministers answer came, “he has brought discomfort to me”. On another occasion, some posts were advertised for the job of naib- qasid /qasid grade 1 posts in the news papers (although all those posts were already filled by the persons whose bio-data was sent along with their ID cards by the said Minister, he directed that salaries ofall these people should be sent to the Ministers residence). Dates of interviews were announced and on the specified date I was asked to interview the applicants. One of the applicants I was interviewing told me that he was Hafiz-e-Quran and had come from a far flung area of District Dadu after borrowing Rupees one Hundred from a relative; I could not control my emotions and tears rolled down my cheeks, I had to tell him that the truth is there are no vacancies; these are just fake interviews. This is just the tip of the iceberg, what goes at a higher level that would be impossible for the general public to know. One of the Ministers had called a meeting at a
location in Karachi at 8.00 PM, when we turned up he was so drunk that he could not walk, the other minister was using a glass of stainless steel to pour cannabis drink from the thermos he kept all time with him. How the money was being looted I would not go into those details. Is this why Pakistan was created? The answer comes it was created for Muslims; I am asking the forum “are Muslims safe in Pakistan? They are not safe here; they are not safe in Palestine, yes right.... because of the Zionists in the neighbouring country? Then the big question is if there is no Zionist Government in Pakistan, why the Muslims are getting killed? Why are we asking the big brothers to stop the drone attacks on Pakistan soil and we are suggesting that they should supply us with the drones and we will do their job on our soil, where ever they will order will use drones as per their instructions (referring to Shah Ahmed Qureshi’s statement). Usman sahib, thanks for your kind words, its is very encouraging to see that at least some one from this forum has called me “MAD”. The email you referred, works both for yahoo and hot mail, but no capital words in the email address. Reagrds, God bless you.
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(38184)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 11:11 PM PST 
Thank You Mr. President

Please read this nice peice of work on BBC website on the current political situation in Pakistan:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/miscellaneous/story/2009/03/090301_baat_say_baat_nj.shtml
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(38183)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 09:57 PM PST 

can anybody please let us know

DHA Lahore Phase 5 M Block


isnt that as same as dha 5 extension location i mean on the other side of ring road and adjacent to dha 9/10

or is it anywhere adjacent to proper dha phase 5 inside ring road

regards
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(38182)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 09:40 PM PST 
4-Marla plot for sale - Reasonable price

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Street-12
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4-Marla plot for sale - Reasonable price

On Main boulevard, At DHA Entrance you enter into Street-12 (Kitchen cuisine is at corner), go straight and street ends and turn right to see 4-marla plot. See map.

One problem is that on rainy season lots of water accumulate in front of plot, and the road is only 20 ft, and then people also throw garbage here.

Please feel free to contact me to discuss

6600744




I am available 24 hours to receive calls. thanking you, yours obidientally
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(38181)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 09:23 PM PST 
1 Kanal Plot in E11/3- SALE

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I am putting ad on my friends behalf.

Measures 500 sq yards
E-11/3 Multi Professional Housing Society
Towards Margalla Hills (second last plot and second from the corner)

Please contact Khusro Malik for more details
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(38180)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 06:38 PM PST 
Pending housing projects in Gwadar irk investors

Pending housing projects in Gwadar irk investors

Assad replied on Sunday, March 1, 2009 07:24 PM PST 

Already shared here @
http://www.pakrealestatetimes.com/showthread.php?tid=3325
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(38179)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 05:51 PM PST 
THE TIMES HEADLINE NEWS‏

Have a look the link below how Pakistan govt make fool to Pakistani people......



the news publish IN THE TIMES (UK)18 FEB 2009.





http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5755490.ece



PLEASE ALWAYS DUA FOR prosperity of Pakistan .

Abba-G replied on Sunday, March 1, 2009 07:13 PM PST 

Pity the nation that wears a cloth it does not weave, eats a bread it does not harvest, and drinks a wine that flows not from its own wine-press

Pity the nation that acclaims the bully as hero, and that deems the glittering conqueror bountiful.

Pity the nation that despises a passion in its dream, yet submits in its awakening.

Pity the nation that raises not its voice save when it walks in funeral, boasts not except among its ruins, and will rebel not save when its neck is
laid between the sword and block.

Pity the nation whose statesman is a fox, whose philosopher is a juggler, and whose art is the art of patching and mimicking.

Pity the nation that welcomes its new ruler with trumpetings, and farewells him with hootings, only to welcome another with trumpetings again.

Pity the nation whose sages are dumb with years and whose strong men are yet in the cradle.

Pity the nation divided into fragments, each fragment deeming itself a nation.

Pity the nation that is full of beliefs and empty of religion.

Kahlil Gibran

Azher syed, Manchester replied on Sunday, March 1, 2009 09:14 PM PST 

"Abba-G" thanks for the beautiful quota from the "Khalil Jibrans" thoughts. This exactly fits as if it was actually foressen by Khalil Jibran in relation to people of Pakistan. May God bless you for the vision and thinking.

Ali3 replied on Sunday, March 1, 2009 09:55 PM PST 

All these evils can be described in a single word: "ELITISM".

Pakistani nation will not rise or rebel even when their neck is placed between neck and block.

Pakistan is full of religion but empty of faith.

Many people say Pakistan is like Jungle. I tell them, please do not insult the jungle.

Faisal.

asim replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 06:18 AM PST 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=86145&sectionid=

Momin (UK) replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 05:50 PM PST 

Why are Muslims failing?‏ (Part-1)
Some thoughts: Extracts of speech by Hafez Adv. AB Mohamed: Director Al Baraka Bank, South Africa

Demographics:
o World Jewish Population. 14 million
o Distribution: 7m in America
5m in Asia
2m in Europe
100 thousand in Africa
o World Muslim Population: 1.5 billion
o Distribution: I billion in Asia/Mid-East
400 M in Africa
44 M in Europe
6 M in the Americas
o Every fifth human being is a Muslim.
o For every single Hindu there are two Muslims
o For every Buddhist there are two Muslims
o For every Jew there are 107 Muslims
o Yet the 14 million Jews are more powerful than the entire 1.5 billion Muslims

Why?

Momin (UK) replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 06:32 PM PST 

Website doesn't let me post any more Extracts of this speech. We are not allowed to share knowledge with our fellow Muslims.

Pity the nation that raises not its voice save when it walks in funeral, boasts not except among its ruins, and will rebel not save when its neck is laid between the sword and block.(kahlil Gibran)

mulsim replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 08:09 PM PST 

What is difference between

World MUNAFIQEEN Population: 1.5 billion
World Muslim Population: only 10% or may be less?
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(38178)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 02:32 PM PST 
ABDALIAN society Plot Required

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We are urgently looking for a 1 kanal & 1.5 kanal plot in Abdalian housing sociey near Johar Town & Expo Center Lahore.Call for transparent deal with down payment.
I-U-Rehman


Waqar Latif replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 08:42 PM PST 

Lolzz.. i thought u posted ad of selling plot of 13 marla, 1k & 1.5k on pakistan real estate...

btw what is the rate of 1.5k, 1k & 13 marla plot in Abdalian?

Jan replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 09:02 PM PST 

Waqar sb, what do you mean Lolzz !
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(38177)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 02:20 PM PST 
NEW LALAZAR 105 KANAL Raqba For SALE

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New Lalazar near GT Road 103 Kanal raqba for sale
Single owner Demand 50 lack per kanal

Paradise Real Estate, Main Adyaila Road
Rawalpindi Pakistan
M ARSHAD RAJA - - Pho


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Hello Panda replied on Monday, March 2, 2009 04:48 PM PST 

Wait for fifty years and you may get 5 crores per Kanal, Inshah Allah.
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(38176)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 02:06 PM PST 

Property rights for democracy and development
By Nadeem Ul Haque
Property rights lie at the heart of society and are the foundation of economic development. The principal function of any state and government is the provision of sound and secure property tights. Without property rights there can be no trading, no investment.

Property rights are at the heart of any economic activity--nobody will become economically active if he can be cheated out of the fruits of his efforts. In addition, meaningful prices and efficient use of resources require secure property rights.

It is for this reason that Douglass North in his Nobel acceptance lecture concluded that "an essential part of development policy is the creation of polities that will create and enforce efficient property rights."

There could be a symbiotic relationship between property rights and politics. A system of politics where power takes precedence over property rights cannot lead to democracy. If public property ca be used for private gain of the powerful, if land acquisition can be used to benefit the rich, if zoning laws can be tampered with at will to suit the incumbent, if supra-legal, above-the-law entities can be created, such as the Defence Housing Authority, to manipulate rights for a certain group, democracy cannot take root.

All of us are heavily involved with the drama of democracy vs. dictatorship that is on the telly every day. There is a myth that says that all will be solved if only there were a vote. Yes, independence of the judiciary is one. But another important issue is the system of property rights.

In Pakistan, ironically, secure property rights obtain only in DHA and Islamabad, where the powerful have invested. But both these properties were made through an abuse of eminent domain. Often the poor peasant was forced to give up his valuable land for yesterday's price to the benefit of the members of the fraternity of the army or the bureaucrats. Whatever system of governance we have (whether democracy or dictatorship) our leaders are competing for the benefits derived from "property rights for the rich!" They are not competing for providing governance. Nor is property flowing to the talented.

Qabza (land-grabbing) remains a most lucrative business today. Why should anyone do any serious work when the gains are in grabbing land!

A particular housing society in Islamabad is a case study in point. The society was formed 20 years ago and was going nowhere. Then the new airport (new at that time) was set up in front of it and suddenly value was created. Enterprising people got involved and established links with senior government officials and generals.

What about the original claimants who had invested their hard-earned money? Many of them were overseas and not always on top of their property. So they were easy targets. The new management committee, made up of the rich and famous, sent out a letter to the poor unsuspecting targets saying that development charges were due and that if they were not paid, their plots would be rescinded. Apparently, dues for development charges were in the region of about Rs150,000. The value of the plot is about Rs4.5 to five million. Well, to collect a debt of about Rs150,000, they were able to seize a property of value over 37 times without any due process of law. Just a board meeting! How many widows, orphans, old people and poor immigrants were caught in the net, we will never know. But someone (the board) has done well!

Our so-called free media is too scared and often even beholden to the rich to talk about issues like this. No one wants to look at this important case study of property rights.

Fortunately, everyone concerned is overlooking a simple solution that humans in civilised societies worked out many centuries ago -- at least as early as Shakespeare's time. Ok, let us concede that development has to go on and that dues have to be pai,d and those who cannot be reached should also contribute. But their debt to the cooperative society is backed by a marketable claim to a piece of land. Even though the society has not yet handed over the plot, the property right is clearly recognised by law and, above all, is being transacted in the market every day.

A marketable asset has intrinsic value, which cannot just be taken over by anyone without due process of law. A housing society can enforce its claim, and should, but to take over such a marketable claim, it must go through some court-approved foreclosure proceedings. They should not be able to take over an asset with market value on the basis of a meeting in someone's living room.

Once foreclosed, the properties should be auctioned in a transparent, open process for all to bid by open outcry in the presence of a court appointed observer. The monies received belong to the owner of the property. Of course, the society has a claim to its debt, but no more. We have Shakespeare famously saying that the debt of "a pound of flesh" must "obtain a pound of flesh and no more -- not a drop of blood." The cooperative has taken more than the whole body for their pound of flesh.

Even defaulters have rights. Thus, the society gets the money it is owed. The owner should be able to get whatever is left over. The principles of property give the full value of that property to the owner of the property. Lenders to whom the property may be collateralised cannot collect more than their claim. Yes, they can force a sale with the court's permission. But they cannot take more than what is owed to them.

What is to be done of those who cannot be traced. Twenty years is a long time. Some of them may have died, disappeared, or whatever.

Should the board or management or other members of society take over their claims. Not at all (in civilised society)! As I outlined earlier, their property can be foreclosed and sold at an open auction. After the society's claim has been settled, whatever is left over must be put in escrow for some legally specified time, say, seven years, in special savings certificates. If in that time the claimant turns up, he realises the value of his property.

If that person does not turn up after seven years, or whatever time specified by law, the money should go to either the government or to some charitable cause, again in a very clear, transparent manner.

In the case described above, people did sue the housing society. But these cases have been in court for many years. Politicians and generals brokered deals. Interestingly enough, in January this year, without informing their membership, the society changed its ownership, eventually being taken over by the DHA. The DHA is more or less a supra-legal body that does not come under the cooperatives law. No attempt was made by the military body, DHA, to deal with this issue of property rights. No even a simple newspaper ad was placed or a public meeting held to understand the plight of those who had been dispossessed.

What happened to the claims of the dispossessed on the cooperative society?

Who cares in the land of the holy? We have the Chief Justice's case to watch and the Lal Masjid battle to worry about. Little issues like property rights do not matter. But the real issue is property rights and the rest is a red herring.



The writer is former vice chancellor of the Pakistan Institute of Development Economics. Email: nhaque_imf@ yahoo.com
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(38174)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 11:50 AM PST 
Office for rent near mall road , Tempal Road in Mian Chamber

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:pkf Office for rent near mall road tempal road. Office at first floor with 375ft square area having attached bathroom. Rent Rs7000 per month
Contact Khalid Mahmood on phone no6305843
or mobile no. for further details.
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(38173)
Sunday, March 1, 2009 03:27 AM PST 
PETROL PUMP INCONE OF 400000 FOR SALE

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