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   sleepless_in_islambad
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:25 PM PST 
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Silver Oak Apartments F-10 Islamabad
Can anybody tell me the current rate of Silver Oaks Apartments in Islamabad?

I think the location is pretty good and seems like it is coming up in good time.
Iqbal Ch replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 04:46 PM PST 

The bookings were made in 2004-05. The project is much delayed. Very greedy people. Not using good materials.
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   ZB
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:04 PM PST 
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Dear Friends,

I am regular readrer of this web page and have feeling that this page is little quite these days. But nothing to worry if the good days has gone then these bad days will go soon too. Inshallah.

Kindly recite Darood o salam as much as you can and beg Allah for pardon and success.

Once Jibrail (alaihissalam) came to Prophet (sulallah alaih waalihe wasalum) said: Allah has given me the knowledge to count every leaf on trees on earth, every fish in the sea, every star in the sky and every particle of sand on earth, but there's only one thing i canot count.

Prophet (SulAllah alaihe waalhe Wasulum ) asked Jibrail {Alaihe Salam}:what is it? Jibrail {Alaihe Salam} replied........

When one of your Ummati recited Durood ow Salaams to you the blessings Allah showers upon him becomes impossible for me to count. SUBHAN ALLAH.

I request you to read Durood as much as you can and ask your love one to do so.
limo replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 04:53 PM PST 

ZB u said it right, these are the "izkaar" that cost you nothing and look very small too, but help you earn a lot of sawab and blessings from Allah SWT.I have heard that if you once say SUBHAN ALLAH, a tree is planted in Jannah for you, that is so big that if a horse continues to run at a gallop for almost 500 years under the shadow of that tree, he won't be able to cross that. May Allah SWT give us taufeeq to be regular in "izkaar" alongwith other religious obligations.Ameen
replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 05:30 PM PST 

please always mention the source of prophet sayings. We should not affiliate any saying to Muhammad sallallaahu alayhi wassalam without making sure that it our beloved prophet's saying.
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 05:38 PM PST 

@ZB

mention source please since it is getting conflicting with this hadith.

"“For one who sends blessings upon me once, Allah will send tenfold blessings in return” (Muslim and others)"

or

"`Abdullah ibn `Amr ibn Al-`Aas is reported to have said, “For one who sends blessings upon the Prophet once, Allah and His angels will send seventy-fold blessings.”"

So the hadith which you mention conflicts with both.. it will be good if you give authentic source of it, unless then kindly don't spread un-authentic hadith..
Wondering replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 05:51 PM PST 

Not denying the personal importance of Izkar and darood but why is it always given as a remedy for the bad social situation.

If we have injustice in society it will not go by Darood. We have to give sacrifice to bring justice around us. Anyone up for that.
hak replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 08:29 PM PST 

Wondering, our lawyers and so called civil society are already giving enough sacrifices to restore justice(I.Ch). Did you mean the same justice ...
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   AAA
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 01:27 PM PST 
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Maleer Bridge Karachi will open today for operation.

Inshallah................
Zaman replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:11 PM PST 

Its good to see develoment work in our lovely country . One really feel so pleased to see such like news on this post, otherwise in our print n electronic media there is nothing other than depressing news regarding our LAND OF PURE " PAKISTAN"
May ALLAH Bless our country with prosparity n happiness, Ameen.
AAA, Many thanks for giving such like pleasing post
CMY replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:25 PM PST 

A salute from my heart for those who took time and had courage think and build this long bridge. I also salute to the workers who build this bridge.

We can do it IF some one is there to guide us to right path.

Congratulations to all Pakistanis. Long live Pakistan.
Engr. JAK Meo KSA replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 03:08 AM PST 

It is an other landmark achieved by MQM backed NAZIM SAHIB. He is a common man like all other MQM MPA,MNA. HE is MBA from university of wales, UK. He is no wadara nor fuedal. People should think for change like i USA. Next election will be on agenda " Change We need". Not again same faces.

Regards
ahmed replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:16 PM PST 

Congratulations to all. I have never been to Karachi, can anyone tell me please why this bridge was made. I mean the picture does not show any river or crossing of other roads. Why they did not make a simple road. Just curious nothing else.
Hamid, Toronto replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:16 PM PST 

No politics but I do have a lot of regards for Karachi Nazim Sahib for his dedication and amazing work ethics. Well done bro!

May Allah give us more courage and power to complete several projects like this. Ameen!
Hamid, Toronto replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:25 PM PST 

Ahmed Bhai,
Bridge on Maleer Stream. As name describes, but at this moment we cannot see water there. I am guessing that Moonsoon days, this place will be flooded with water.
MQM lover replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 01:11 PM PST 

Dear Ahmed & Hamid,

This nullah is carrying flood water of most of the parts of Karachi. It is divided Korangi & landhi (population about 5 million)from other parts of Karachi.If we want to go korangi & landhi we have to travel about 20 km more. Now we can reach these areas by drive only 3 KM. Also we bypass Quidabad mostly consisting of dacoaits.
Ahmed replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 01:31 PM PST 

Thank you Dear Hamid and MQM Lover for making me understand the reasons of this Bridge. Good luck and enjoy the Drive.
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   ss
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:38 AM PST 
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CURRENT VALUE OF JINNAH GARDEN TOWN PHASE I EXTENSION
Ad Type
Plot
Cur. Rate
30x60
Kindly anyone inform me current value of Plot size 30x60 in Jannah Garden Pahse-1 extension Islamabad.Where I can find thorugh net the Map of such society?
Regards,
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   Jameel
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:07 AM PST 
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Park view on Ground Plots Vs DHA 6
what is comparision between DHA 6 with possession plots with Park view n round average Blocks, if intend is to make home in 2 years
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:29 PM PST 

Last Dec I visited both places. Location & approach of Parkview (PV) is better than Ph 6. A wide enterance of PV with service roads straight from the airport (also shortest path to Mall road, Cantt., Canal & the Railway Station) makes it a prefered place.

DHA 6 will become a good residential area once all links from Parkview & Air Avenue are build & operative but still it lacks direct approach; presently, either v have to take the Broadway Commercial(which is a horror road at nights; it will take more than 5 years to reach to the beginning of what is projected in DHA advertisements) or fom DHA 5 via Bedian Road from one of its corner. A positive charm in DHA 6 is the Defence Raya & Golf coarse but still a long way to go. Still no signs of foreign developers investing/constructing commercial & business centers there as has been projected since 5 years. Approach from Barki road is not recommended todate. These differece are reflected in their prices as well which is from 20 to 50 lac.

Well for construction within 2 years price difference is considerable but for those friends who can wait 3-4 years they should go for a file in PV or DHA 8.
Rehman- Qatar replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 03:39 PM PST 

SO if i want to build a house in 1-2 years, u r suggesting Park view or DHA 6?

ALso, am i right in saying that it is better to pay 15-20 lacs less and buy DHA 6 plot , as after 3-4 years, it will also have a better approach just like PV.
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 04:08 PM PST 

Good point raised! Infact I was not suggesting, I presented an analysis.

Its one's own decision either to compromise on location if requires a house within 2 years (btw, stand-alone DHA 6 is not a bad decision at current prices whereas the original question raised was the comparison between PV & DHA 6) but if one can wait 3-4 years he can have it in PV at almost the same price with better location/approach.
Rehman-Qatar replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 04:31 PM PST 

Pardesi,, i myself is exploring the same idea. Your opinion is welcome. I just wanted you to ellaborate your analysis. I am not exactly aware about PV status. Why u have suggested to wait for 3-4 years if anyone is interested in PV. Is PV not ready for constrcution nowadays. In DHA 6 , DHA has start giving possession in some blocks.

What is your view about DHA homes in Phase 8/PV
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:08 PM PST 

As I already presented in my post 41541, “Ph VI will take approx. 5-7 years before it get populated like ph 3,4”.

PV (now, it is a part of DHA 8) is already an reasonably good on-ground developed society having much more construction than DHA 6, having an excellent approach & a wide entrance straight from the airport (You can well imagine why DHA was anxious to acquire this society as a gateway to DHA 6, 7 & 8) with some of its files still waiting for ballot. Prices of good on-ground plots are more than double that of its file.

The problem is that DHA is sort of more attached to its 6 & 7 phases because of their farther distance due to which they have not balloted DHA 8 & PV (remaining), otherwise Ph 8 will take all the benefit at the expense of Ph 6 & 7. (Probably till the time when all the plots allotted to the armed-forces only on the payment of development charges will be further sold to general public). Once balloted PV will become much much better option. “Seeing is believing” works here. I have also learned that DHA is holding more than 80% land required for Ph 8 & it usually process balloting after reaching the level of 80%. Therefore, balloting is expected shortly which will further take approx 2-3 years for development.

I visited DHA Villas in Ph 8 twice. These are reasonably good (not exceptionally outstanding) construction with zabardast location on the main boulevard in Block C ext. Having 4 beds, drawing, dining, kitchen, living & a servant quarter. Possession is expected soon & I guess these are available at around 2/3 lacs above the booking price of Rs. 85 lacs. These are best-suited to expats who cannot invest time on building at their own.

So, can u share ur decision with us? :)
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:16 PM PST 

From the post 41881:

"CMY replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:45 AM PST

Gossip in market that DHA 8 will have ballot in lacs week of Feb. I am unable to confirm it. This is the main reason DHA 8 is hot since past couple of weeks."
Habib replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:24 PM PST 

PV vs DHA 6
Another point to consider is that is development standard is same in both. Is is possible to redo all development work in PV again ?? I think at present price of on Ground plots of PV is comparable with DHA 5, Not DHA 6. PV has only psychological impact as most of buyers are overseas and once you exit from air port you see it and it looks very accessible. same is the reason DHA took over the PV but still they are not able to fix all the problems. Air avenue have much better development than PV
Rehman- Qatar replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:30 PM PST 

Pardesi Bhai:

Thanks a lot for your valuable input.Being an expatriate, i am looking for a 10 -14 marla constructed house. Or buy 1 kanal plot and construction a house on it on area of 12- 14 marla or so and leave a bigger ground. I need 4 bedrooms etc and neither believe/nor have the money to have a covered area of 6000 or more sq. ft in 1 kanal plot.

I am not in favor of buying 10 M plot and constructing on it, as generally price of 10 M plot is around 70% - 75% of 1 kanal plot so in my view, it better to buy a 1 kanal plot and keep less covered area.
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   FK
Wednesday, February 4, 2009 12:38 AM PST 
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10 Marla/1 Canal Plot price in DHAI Ph 2 Ext - Islamabad
AOA, Please let me know 10 marla/1 canal plot prices in Sector B, C & E in DHAI Ph 2 Ext - Islamabad.

Also please let know if above investment is good.

Thanks & your early respone will be appreciated.
FK replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 09:38 AM PST 

AOA CMY Sahib, Could you please give your suggestions.

Thanks
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   salman
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:06 PM PST 
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property devalued doubled than Rupee
..for example one purchased a DHA plot in 60 lac.
If he sold it one year befoer he may got one lac US Dollar in return,..... but on the other hand ..after one year luckly price of plot remains 60 lac rupees he can get only 75 thousand US Dollar only..so he lose twice i.e. 1.can not get perofit of holding investment and secondly devaluation of rupee
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:51 PM PST 

ok.. u win.. :)
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:54 PM PST 

btw isn't that means price in rupees is not changed but only dollar change.. so property is not devalued then rupee but equal.. how it is double?
View replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:01 PM PST 

I also invested Half Million Saudi riyals. Now it worth two Lac Fifty thousand only almost half is loss. While in Pak Rupees it is same amount as it was before.
atiq raja. replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:22 PM PST 

it is all depends upon luck,calculation are not mater,6 year back i purchase plot on 15 lack rupees,now its worth is around 1 crore 50 lack rupees,dont go on calculations
test replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:18 AM PST 

Atiq Raja jee , Six years ago u bought a plot in 15 lacs and now price is 1.5 crore rupees. Will u please be so kind to tell us in which sector of Islamabad u bought this plot because i know that there was no plot available in 15 lacs whose price is now 1.5 crore.
Ali11 replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 03:00 PM PST 

@ salman,

u r the biggest looser in every aspect, moneywise & morally.

if you are investing in pakrupees, then think of your profit in Pak rupees.

don't degrade yourself,
just try to respect yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
salman replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 09:02 PM PST 

Ali Sahib ! I just replied to question of Waqar Latif.. I am not investor .. I just creat a question.. sorry if I heart your nationalism
salman replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:38 PM PST 

Waqar sahib its not matter of win of lose .. we just doiscussing ...may be i wrong and u or any one is correct so ,,can i say we all win who are dicussing these matters
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   Destiny
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 07:58 PM PST 
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Price and development of Formanites Housing Society
Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Size
Cur. Rate
Lahore
Formanites
Phase 1
L
10 Marla
AOA, well as now we are in the recovery stage and hopefully soon our economic condition will become better and we do hope that the same will happen in Formanites too.

I know there are many serious and experiance people working on this website. can you please tell me current development status of Formanites especially in L block phase 1, and also what is the current price trend in same block for 10 marlas where still installments due also what is the future of this society.

Anxiously waiting for serious help

Destiny
we r nothing doing replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:48 PM PST 

formanites society like trotries slow n very slow. these r doing some
devolpment in block n.and devolpment reached in l block and stopped.
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   salman
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 05:50 PM PST 
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suppose one invest one crore rupees in DHA or any Housing scheem and other simply get 14lac per annum profit/mark up from bank deposit.question: who will earn more? :h
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:03 PM PST 

Yes you are right.. but you must know the rupee can get devalue, while your property is not.. & the prices go up with the passage of time. for detail you can compare prices of the property 5 yr back with today's prices

btw there are scheme from where you can get upto 18% profit from the banks...
Nadeem KSA replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:03 PM PST 

This is an intresting question.

can you please discuss here the best options for investment banks etc other than property and the profit margin....? will appreciate. Thanks in-advancs.
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:12 PM PST 

well nadeem, you can get around 14% profit from any bank within pakistan.

btw national saving pakistan gives around % profit, for more information you can go to this website

www.savings.gov.pk
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:29 PM PST 

i guess mybank & UBL are giving 18+% profit
Habib replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:35 PM PST 

yes It is right Banks and national savings are giving much more return than realestate, upto certain limit realestate is also subject to devaluation if pak rupee devales.
But we should keep in mind that in unfortunate severe inflation realesatte investment can save you from compleletly losing savings. I hope it will never happen in Pakistan but at least 20+ countries in recent history have faced rates of inflation 100+ percent/year. If that happens then you will end up losing all your savings. So in current circumsatnces one should not invest 25 to 30% in realesate and about same in NSS or stable/ islamic banks. An rest of money should be kept in foreign currency.
This is for the people who have surplus money or savings and cant do any busniess with it.
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:45 PM PST 

yes the habib rightly pointed about islamic banking since you can't loss money in that incoume is less but good enough to survive..(PS: National Saving is not Islamic Banking)
Rehmat Ali replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 07:51 PM PST 

Dears:

I purchased DHA 7 file in 2004. It cost me 28,50,000 at that time. I paid development charges of 6,00,000. Now the price in DHA 7 is 24~30,00,000. How can you say that investment in property after 5 years is good.

And properties going down now also.

Regards.
salman replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:01 PM PST 

if rupee devalue than property devalue autometically..for example one purchased a DHA plot in 60 lac of he sold it one year befoer he may got one lac US Dollar in return,..... but on the other hand ..after one year the price of plot is still60 lac he can get only 75 thousand US Dollar only..so he lose twice 1.can not get perofit of holding and secondly lose of devaluation of rupee..
Property more rewarding replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:04 PM PST 

Rehmat Ali sahib I bought a DHA phase 6 allocation file in Nov 2003 at 15 lacs. I paid 4.5 lacs for development charges for my DHA phase 6 plot. After all major corrections in property market my plot in DHA phase 6 H block is still valued at 57 lacs.

Can any bank match this return ?
salman replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:15 PM PST 

I can goive you example one person purchase prize bond of 40 thousand and winn 2.5 crore rupees but at the same time hundred of thousand purchased same prize bond but not winn any prize...less or more same case above if some invest in DHA 6 may get profit but thousand others lost in hundreds others scheem and even in DHA,s other sectors
salman replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:21 PM PST 

on fix deposit of four,one can doubled the investment
Habib replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:31 PM PST 

Dear Sir, "property more rewarding, thanks for sharing with us 2003 price. It was per boom price so in real sense I think your Plot price had right or even more than realistic gain like for 15 lac land you should get 15+20 and for Development 4.5 you should get 9 Lac, total 44 lac so still it is about 12 lac overvalued, the correct worth turns out to be about 45 lac, I think if you take average Plot of phase 6 it is about 48,49 Lac ranging from 36 to 70. in other words it looks DHA still bit expensive than it should be.
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:48 PM PST 

Habib

but at that time profit which banks were giving were only 7%, so if you have invested 1 million let suppose in the bank at that time, then only profit you could get would be 70,000 per annum.. - 10% tax, and after 5 yrs it would be only 1,350,000, which becomes 1.5 million = 2,050,000 only.. so how you are comparing it with property?

Salman

it is not the case.. in 2003, i was getting DHA Phase 1 plot for only 6 million, now can you tell me what are the prices in DHA Phase 1 at that moment?

Also in wapda 1K plot was for 13, what are current prices of 1K in initial blocks like A,B,C,D .... ?

my one colleage built his house 7.5m house for 23 lac (inc plot) in 2001, at the moment he is getting 8 million blindly...
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 08:51 PM PST 

waisay seriously i think, profit or loss only depend upon luck... i remember in 2007 we were selling our house for only 10 million, everything was done.. & something happen the deal got cancel.. & guess what we get 10s of customers who were even giving 13 million after that, but our demand goes to 15 million.. because of rates also goes up in surroundings ..
Asif A. K. replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 09:01 PM PST 

It is correct that Curently simply buying a land is not good investment. However, if yo have alredy land then construction on it will be bear fruits.
In international era, real estate mini-boom comes back only in 10 years due to economic cycle, while big boom re-appears only in 20 to 25 years. So looing at current econmic crunch world over and in Pakistan, it is safe to say that mini boom in Pakistan is still 2 to 3 years away, while big boom shal appear in 10 years time at least.

Hence, investments in Banking sector is really good option. It will save your money from de-valuation at least.
My interest is not creat panic here, but to give honest and real picture of the market.
atiq raja. replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:26 PM PST 

mr salam i am giving you tip for double your investment with in 2 year,just purchase any size of plot in d/12 islamabad.
test replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:38 AM PST 

Raja sb, please dont give wrong advises to viewers, prices in D-12 is already increased too much and in two years time can be increased max. 25% more, as u know price of one kanal plot in E-11 SECTOR is 1.5 cr to 1.80 cr. in F-11 2.25 and in D-12 1.5 cr which is already over priced.Please dont talk like double shah. I think best sector for investment is E-11 sector where u r already constructing a house.
Khayyam replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 03:05 AM PST 

Dear test,

In sector D-12 I think you can still buy a one kanal for around caror. I agree with Mr Atiq Raja that if you can buy it for that price, it is possible that the value could go up and become comparable to prices in sector F-11 in two years. That depends on key assumption that CDA finishes the development work which they are claiming to finish by June 30. Additionally your biggest risk is further devaluation of rupee any investor needs to account for.

My advice is that if someone really wants to invest in realestate, BT phase 8 is a better option for the long term. If C ring road project does complete and exceptional access to BT is provided linking BT with airport and Islamabad, the prices there might catch up to slamabad CDA prices. However that can take 8-10 years.

However don't take my words, do your own homework
ShoaibM replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 05:59 PM PST 

better to invest in G-14/1,2,3. Investment will definitely be double in 2 yrs.
ShoaibM replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:03 PM PST 

I invested in G/15 1.5 years ago and now the rates are approx. double, So, G-14/1,2,3 would be the ideal place to invest. Soon the development work will be starting coz almost all plots belongs to Govt. Employees and most of them are retired and in hurry to start constructing their houses.
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   Zaman
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 05:22 PM PST 
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I request my brothers in Pindi/Islamabad to kindly tell me some details regarding Soan Garden, its location, development/living standards and present cost of 10 marlas/one kanal plots. can it be compared with bahria town or DhaI in some way.
Regards
atiq raja. replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:30 PM PST 

very simple in zone5,only invest in dha or BT,even dont think to invest any other schemes like,sohan garden,pwd,korang etc.
Zaman replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 01:19 AM PST 

Thanks and regards Mr Atiq Raja
Amjad replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:50 AM PST 

PWD, KORANG TOWN AND SOHAN GARDENS ARE THE GOOD SOCITIES AND ARE GOOD FOR INVESTMENT IF YOU BUY PLOTS ON THE GOOD LOCATION.
Mian Nadeem Islamabad replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 12:46 PM PST 

Sawan Garden is CDA approved society in Zone-5. Location better than Bahria Town, 21 km from Zero Point Islamabad. Development standard is not as good as Bahria.H Block is on depression and situated near river other blocks are good.
Zaman replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 01:20 PM PST 

Mr Atiq Raja , kindly elaborate your view point regarding sawan garden n pwd schemes in view of Mr Amjad n MR Nadeem Mian comments
ShoaibM replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:16 PM PST 

Mostly, Middle class people living in SOAN Garden or PWD, whereas BT or DHA preferably belongs to a little upper Class.

Location: Soan/PWD is far better then DHA or BT.
Value: As in Pakistan, the class differences getting bigger n bigger so it's a trend to change a class. DHA is a kinda lable symbol for elite class and have more buyers then PWD/SOAN or else. thats why it's famous even though it's too far from Islamabad. It's so simple, if you have more buyers in the market then automatically the price goes up.

10 Marla in SOAN/PWD is in range of 27-35++.
Safwan Khan. replied on Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:45 AM PST 

I have been to Soan Garden and I could say for sure that they are not even close to what Bahria and DHA has done or doing. Location is better but living conditions are much better in DHA and Bahria. If I have some extra money I would go for Bahria ph-6 that connects to GT and Isb hwy. Right now I built house in Zaraj which I believe is equally better, only time would tell if I am right or wrong. But Bahria Town is alot better. I only went and bought in Zaraj couple of years back due to my limited budget and I guess more value for the money. I bought 12 marla for the price less that 1o marla in Bahria. Last time I checked 1 kanal in Bahria is b/w 35 & 40 lacs.
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   ss
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 03:18 PM PST 
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Jinnah Garden Phase 1 extension Islamabad
Ad Type
Plot
For Sale
30x60
Kindly some one inform me latest value of Plot size 30x60 in Jannah Garden Pahse-1 extension Islamabad.Where I can find thorugh net the Map of such society?
Regards,
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   LRE Rates Update
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 03:15 PM PST 
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DHA Lahore Plot File Prices Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse
Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse Feb 3, 2009 03:30 PM

DHA Lahore File Prices

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Allocation File 1 Kanal seller at 37 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension Allocation File: Buyer(s) at 25.10 Sellers(s) at 25.25 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 34.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 21.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 36.70 Seller(s) at 36.75 Lacs

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation TRANSFER file Buyer(s) at 28.90 Seller(s) at 29.00 Please note OPEN files are priced lower.

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 20.40 Seller(s)at 20.45 Lacs.

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 14.70 Seller(s) at 14.75

DHA Valley Islamabad 5 Marla at losses on paid amount from 14000 to 22000

DHA Valley Islamabad 8 Marla at losses on paid amount from 14000 to 18000

DHA Islamabad 2 ext is at 11.35 lacs.


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Jameel replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 06:02 AM PST 

DHA 8 proper file is gaining again, and parkview both 10 merla and Kanal are stand still, what is argument for that?? File 5 ext is also Flat same is DHA 9
CMY replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 02:45 PM PST 

Gossip in market that DHA 8 will have ballot in lacs week of Feb. I am unable to confirm it. This is the main reason DHA 8 is hot since past couple of weeks.
JI replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 03:24 PM PST 

Good Days and Bad Days::(

Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:13 AM PST Reply:
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Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse Sept 11, 2008 11:00 AM

DHA Lahore Phase 5 . Allocation 1 Kanal seller at 47 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension. Alloc: Buyer(s) at 33.35 Sellers(s) at 33.50 lacs


DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation: Sellers(s) at 45.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 Allocation: Sellers(s) at 25 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation: Buyer(s) at 40.50 Seller(s) at 40.60 Lacs


Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation OPEN file Buyer(s) at 31.85 Seller(s) at 32 Lacs allocation Transfer file Buyer(s) at 32.50 Seller(s) at 32.65 Lacs

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 22.75 Seller(s)at 22.85 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Alloc: Buyer(s) at 17.65 Seller(s) at 17.75

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   ashraf
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 04:20 AM PST 
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   Khayyam Shahzad
Tuesday, February 3, 2009 02:07 AM PST 
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House Construction Prices. (Question for Mr Atiq Raja * Mr M. Yousaf)
Mr. Muhammad Yousaf,

In an earlier post you have mentioned that the cost per sq feet for the house you are building in DHA is around Rs 220. Are you sure about this number? Perhaps I am misinterpreting your statement. The cost of class 'A' construction that I have inquired ranges between Rs /sq ft. Do you mind providing your contractor contact information?

Mr. Atiq Raja, since you are also currently in the building phase, can you please share your costs? BTW how can you build a 12000 sq feet home with five servant quarters in one kanal? Do you mind sharing your architecture plans?

I can be contacted directly on my email listed below.

Thank you
Khayyam Shahzad
Mohammad Yousaf replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 03:09 AM PST 

Khayyam Sahib,

This cost is what is called "Tesi and Crundi" job only and all the material cost will be from the owner's pocket. This is just a labor cost and the terms & conditions are always set between the contractor and the owner.

The cost of construction, you are quoting is OK. In this cost, the builder will bear all the material cost as per the agreement.

Mr. A. M. Butt, the regular reader and a valuable contributor of this forum, is requested to shed some light over this please, as He is doing exactly what is being asked by Shahzad Sahib!
Khayyam replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 04:29 AM PST 

Dear Mr. M. Yousaf,

Thank you for a very prompt response! I am learning something new every day. "Tesi and Crundi" ... hmmm ... has a weird sound to it :-)

Kind regards
DHAI 2 Islamabad replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 04:50 AM PST 

@ M Yousaf , Khayyam

Could you gentleman please give a very rough idea of overall cost (in lacs) of construction for

a) Single storey construction on standard covered area for 500 sqyds
b) Double storey construction on standard covered area for 500 sqyds

Please pardon my ignorance as I cant seem to get a reasonable estimate with the quoted per square foot cost.

Much obliged.
Khayyam replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 05:52 AM PST 

Best answer is it depends on how you want to structure the construction process.

If you use a "turnkey" solution, which is what I am looking into, the cost of a very good construction is somewhere around Rs per sq feet. Please note that Rs 1200 that I mentioned earlier was the rate before the ruppee dipped 30 percent in the recent months.

Therefore for 500 sq yard it will range from 22.5 lakh to 27 lakh for one floor. For two floors it will be double.

Also please note basement construction is about 20-50% more expensive than above ground construction.

You may be able to save the cost if you choose to be the main contractor and use this "Tesi and Crundi" approach described by brother M Yousaf. Additionally you will save if you use lesser materials/standards.

Hope this helps
Khayyam replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:05 AM PST 

One more point to clarify about the term turnkey.

Contractor will provide all labor, & material. It is lesser of a headache especially if you are perdesi like me. However there is a bigger risk that the contractor will cheat in your absence and it probably is more expensive. Some brothers have advised previously to hire a separate architect/supervisor to overlook the contractor job. Therefore if some one can provide a good reference there, it will be greatly appreciated in Islamabad area.

I am planning to use the contractor referred to me by my good friend Safwan. The contractor details are as follows:

Manzoor: (Islamabad area)

I meet this contracor in November and will see his final work again in March when I visit Pakistan. He appear to be a very nice person and per Safwan has done a very honest and good job.
Khayyam replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 07:28 AM PST 

Correction: 500 sq yard = 4500 sq feet
Therefore cost of construction will rage for a 500 sq yard from 67.7 lakh - 81 lakh (for each floor)

That is a size of a palace :-)
A.M.BUTT replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 12:37 PM PST 

Mr Khayyam,

RS-1200 to 1800 per sqfeet is rate with material base on area and quality because in some area transport and raw material is expencive.
2nd quis-you ask sigle story about 40 to 45 lakh double story 70 to 80 lakh in normal A class constraction.
I am building my house in lahore by signing agreement with contractor RS 1200 per sq feet.All material quality is metained as per mention in the contract.with the consultation of Archetact Engineer.
I can provide you the detail if you write me on ( )
Happy replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 05:48 PM PST 

I tend to agree with butt sahib's estimate.
Safwan Khan. replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 01:00 AM PST 

AOA All,
I got my home constructed in Zaraj Housing (Zone 5 Isl), its almost 4000 sq ft on 12 marla lot. Double story, 4 bed/bath, 2 living rooms, drawing/dining, small storage. Back in late 2007, I got a rate of 1300/sq ft but after negotiation we got 1200/sq ft. Its "A" grade construction and I am very satisifed with the work contract has performed. Now in 2009, I believe the rate could be around . I am not an expert but with 30% inflation and rise in cement, bricks and iron you expect the price to be >1500/sq ft.
Common man replied on Wednesday, February 4, 2009 04:46 PM PST 

In Wapda town and adjacent societies, the average rate is 1500 Rs /ft2 for construction of home on turnkey basis.
dr faysal replied on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 05:30 PM PST 

AoA, sir i am planning to build a house in rawalpindi, can u guide me in this matter, my contractor is demanding 1300 per sq-ft.
what you suggest? is it ok?
also can u email me the legal documents with details for contracter ?
i will be grateful
wsalam.
replied on Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:51 AM PST 

A good reasonable construction designed by a consultant cost rupees 3000/- per sft quality of work is very essential due to investmennt and life of work
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   shoaib shahid
Monday, February 2, 2009 11:28 PM PST 
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1-kanal plot for sale
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   Pardesi, Jeddah
Monday, February 2, 2009 10:38 PM PST 
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Using others ID
Dear CMY/ All good friends

It is my humble request to device a system of login & password by which people cannot use others name & may provide fake information. Someone has used my ID as Perdasi, KSA & has given bank accounts of Zardari. This is no way a good practice as it hurts the our credibility. You can check all my inputs are in reasonable limits. Hoping you will find the fake person & expose his intentions.

Best Regards
:1)
Mohammad Yousaf replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 03:27 AM PST 

Agreed!

People are posting and changing their names, without any standard authentication rights, all the time, this is inappropriate.

Also if RSS feed is ever introduced on this place , the readers will highly appreciate that!
CMY replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 02:50 PM PST 

Perdesi Bhai any one can send me an email with the name they want to reserve. No one but reserved name person could use that name.
Send email to Lahorerealestate@gmail.com to reserve the name.

Yousif bhai I will look into RSS feed issue. I need some time to use it properly.
Waqar Latif replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 03:48 PM PST 

CMY

have you put the limit on the threads, or number of postings you do, since i c@nt pôst..

Also if i reserve a user name, can i use it on different locations?
Pardesi, Jeddah replied on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 06:37 PM PST 

Dear CMY

Mail sent as desired.
Can you publish a list of reserved users for the interest of all?
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   Muhaq-qiq
Monday, February 2, 2009 10:12 PM PST 
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Dubai Real Estate Market News and Trends
Buyers can approach Property Court for terminated off-plan contracts
Posted: 30 Jan 2009 10:19 PM PST
A senior government official has revealed that property buyers can contest their "terminated" off-plan contracts signed after 31st August 2008 in the newly established Property Court, by going through the Dubai Land Department (DLD). The buyers can also claim compensation from the Property Court, if he establishes a ground for the termination, said Emad Eldin Farouq, Senior Legal Counsel at the



Major property developers in Abu Dhabi reports decline in profits
Posted: 30 Jan 2009 10:28 PM PST
Abu Dhabi property market, which so far was able to cope with the pressure of global slowdown, is slowly beginning to feel the heat, with its two major property developers, the Aldar Properties and Sorouh Real Estate, witnessing considerable decrease in profit during the fourth quarter of 2008. This fact emphasizes that the impact of global credit crisis has been felt on the capital's real
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   DHA Lahore Plots For Sale
Monday, February 2, 2009 08:55 PM PST 
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DHA Lahore Phase 6 Plots For Sale
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DHA Lahore Phase 6 near N 1140 @ 38 Lacs
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friend from jeddah replied on Monday, February 2, 2009 09:24 PM PST 

Thank you mujahid bhai...
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   Park view Lahore Plots For Sale
Monday, February 2, 2009 08:40 PM PST 
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Parkview Lahore Plots For Sale
Parkview Lahore Near A 285@60 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near A 325@ 65 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near F 62 @ 81 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near B 44 @ 80 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near B 216 @ 83 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near C 303/27 at 68 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near C 51 @82 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near D 256@68 Lacs
Parkview Lahore Near D 375 @ 60 lacs
Parkview Lahore Near D 316 + 317 @ 75 Lacs each
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Monday, February 2, 2009 08:23 PM PST 
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