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Saturday, October 26, 2019 07:23 PM PST 

AoA, just wanted to know the opinion of real estate gurus regarding commercial projects which are offering rentals from the first day of payment. From r example, the company behind Mall XYZ in Islamabad is offering 0.8% rental from the day total payment of an office is made.
- How authentic are these offers?
- What should be confirmed/verified before investing?
- Should they be considered scams? One company already has developed one such mall in Islamabad?

AvoidGreed replied on Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:06 PM PST 

Please avoid anything that seems to be too good to be true. There is no bargain in Pakistan, only deceit and frauds wrapped in sweet deals and honest looking conmen.

truth replied on Sunday, October 27, 2019 02:29 AM PST 

if I take full payment of office today......and keep it in bank ......... I will get much much higher profit per month...... from this profit, I will pay you 0.8 % ....

I may develop the mall very slowly, thus keeping more money in my hand in bank, which I collected from many buyers ....... thus earning extra profits on top of property price ...

wrong practice..... how can rental be paid if building is not yet materialized

Sleepless replied on Sunday, October 27, 2019 04:53 PM PST 

Agreed with your comments @truth. They are investing that money and also utilizing in construction. 0.8% per month comes to 9.8% annually and you have a commercial property at the end of the day. The best banks are offering is 13.25% annually over a period of 1 year. Property is bound to appreciate over time as well.

Asif replied on Sunday, October 27, 2019 07:34 PM PST 

Please be very very careful with the buy back clause in these type of projects, and possession too. will you get the possession on completion of the construction, and can rent it out to whom you want, check these things,

Tahir replied on Monday, October 28, 2019 12:43 PM PST 

This is not the time , when properties will earn and make you rich . The more people wait , more it will fall. It’s an honest suggestion to please do something meaningful with your money so it may creates jobs in a country whose labor force can turn its fortunes and off course for the one who is investing as well
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Tuesday, December 18, 2018 06:10 AM PST 
Property in comparison to dollar.

Dear Readers,

I would like to get your feedback regarding buying property in current scenario . Is it feasible option ?while all indicators are directing towards property crash.

Would appreciate if logical discussion based on ground reality is initiated.

Mirza replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 06:35 AM PST 

Dollar will touch 150 Or Max 160 in 3 months to 7 months.

While coming to property. Don't buy files/plots where only investors are playing. Its very risky.

OR Buy property with handsome rental income (6%+) and some growth potential based on on ground realities. If a property increase 14% in its value and gives 6% rent. Overall it will be 20% per anum. I think its not bad.

Mirza replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 06:37 AM PST 

Also note downside risk. property may not increase in value for next 2 years.

My analysis is based on Lahore's Market.

Khan88 replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 07:07 AM PST 

Saying if for a while now - stay clear of property

Tahir replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 12:48 PM PST 

In relation to dollars with property, we need to see history taking any property into account. Phase 9 property in 2005/06 was in range of 40-45 lacs while dollar was in range of 60-65.
Thus making file trading at around 67k $. These dollars as of today makes 94 lacs + 19.5 development charges make 1.24 crore.
The good location plot in phase 9 comes in this range. So to make break even with dollar one must have a Good location plot.
Those were peak time of property and so is the case these days and we all know what happened afterwards.
So in my opinion buying property at right time and getting out of it is the crucial factor. I hope stucked people would have bought properties in 2011-12, else it would only be profitable for them in next boom, since property bubble may burst. When ? Only time can tell.

Sleepless replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 01:23 PM PST 

So is it a good time to sell? I have some commercial property in Islamabad, which is providing me good rent. It has appreciated considerably but I think the rent is low as per potential. But rather than keep it empty, I rented it out. I am currently making 6% per annum (calculating at the price I bought it for, not what it is worth right now) rent on it - and rent is increasing 10% every year. So I will hit close to 7% in the early half of next year.

Looking for advice on what else is there in the Islamabad market to invest in? I can only invest in Islamabad, because I do not have spare time to explore options in other cites.

Adil replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 02:12 PM PST 

Best of luck in selling in such volatile market

Khan88 replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 05:41 PM PST 

6% yield is quite decent - I wont sell if I was you.

Some opportunity to make some cash in dha valley - balloting is due on 23 december.

Adnan replied on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 09:00 PM PST 

So there are two ways of looking at it, first is whatever everyone is saying, dollar goes up, property value comes down unless the property market is booming. I bought properties that have more than doubled in the past few years, but in terms of dollar value, probably at the same value. Alternatively put the money in the bank and with current interest rates, you earn nothing. So if you are living outside of Pakistan and can buy property wherever you are, its a better bet than buying in Pakistan. The flip side of the coin is, your bank dollars are currently worth a lot of rupees and property is down, so for an investor, its a pretty good time to buy. Unless of course you don't want to live in Pakistan in the long term in which case, you don't want to buy property here and get stuck with it. In my opinion, the current property market challenges in Pakistan also present opportunities for the investor in the longer run. Dollar price is expected to go down in the coming few weeks, not up. The slide is the result of lack of confidence which should come back with the IMF and other programs plus foreign funding that are all being finalized currently. So upto the investor to take a risk and make some money or stay away. In my particular case, I am staying away for now and looking to buy some property where I live. However, I have investments in Pakistan and keep a close eye on their market vis-à-vis dollar value. Over the past 8 years, I have made more money than the bank would give me interest on, even with the declining rupee dollar parity. But its a game of long term investments. Anyone looking for short term gain will be disappointed.

Khan88 replied on Wednesday, December 19, 2018 06:16 AM PST 

Pakistan is going through monetary contraction (rising interest rates/inflation and devaluation of currency), this coupled with the fact that people, a considerable portion who have ill gotten gains do not want to be investigated by NAB and FBR and are unlikely to invest,circulate money in the economy,

You have to be very lucky to time the market, majority in the world fails at this.

On another note, much of previous unrealsied gains will be lost as ruppee devalue further meaning you barely made any money above the marginal interest rate increased. I say bring this on, we need this to happen for economy to become productive.
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Tuesday, December 4, 2018 12:24 PM PST 
DHA Overseas Valley, Islamabad

Does anyone have any news about the fate of DHA Overseas Valley (Islamabad). The project was launched back in Nov 2008 with an apparent sense of urgency. Over 10 years have elapsed (and all payments completed in 2012), but ever since we have had no update whatsoever from DHA Islamabad as to where do we stand on this.

Sleepless replied on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 07:37 PM PST 

Balloting is expected on 23rd December for file holder whose files are clear (11 installments cleared).
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Monday, October 3, 2016 03:59 PM PST 

Want to sell house in GG sector Phase 4 DHA Lahore. almost brand new just. UV cupboards all fittings and accessories in bathrooms and kitchens with ACs lush green lawns. Terrace upgraded for fence BBQ area and plantation area upgraded elevation. SDM and rope lights. New false ceilings. 5 Split ACs. Please contact if interested.

Sleepless replied on Monday, October 3, 2016 06:32 PM PST 

What is the plot size/covered area of house? The number of rooms/kitchens/dining etc would also be helpful
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Wednesday, December 2, 2015 03:31 PM PST 

Dear All,

I wanted to buy and give on rent a house. In order to provide a second source of income for my family. My maximum Budget is 1 crore and 20 lacs.

Now the options are:

1.one 5-marla house in DHA Phase 6, or
2. two 5- marla houses in Bahria

Which option is better (and I do not want to venture outside of DHA and Bahria to another society).

Regards,
Aamir

Farooq replied on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 04:17 PM PST 

One in DHA-6 is better than two in Bahria

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 04:24 PM PST 

Dear Aamir,
The management of rental property is a serious issue (even in Bahria Town or DHA) so it is better to have one unit instead of 2. Further more, one should give preference to the area where it is relatively easy for you / your family to visit.

Nadim replied on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 06:41 PM PST 

Dear Amir sb,
Getting a flat in Askari 1 , serfaraz rafiqi road and rent out.
Totally secured and rent would be around 35/40 K.
Newly constructed and available in this proice...

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 09:47 PM PST 

@ Nadim,
Please shed some light on recommended flats - size, rate, accomodation etc.
Thanks.

Sleepless replied on Thursday, December 3, 2015 01:22 PM PST 

I had approx the same budget. I bought a shop measuring 560 sq feet. reasons:

- More rental income
- Higher appreciation
- Less maintenance cost

Muhammad Ayyaz replied on Thursday, December 3, 2015 02:02 PM PST 

Dear Hussain Kaisrani Sahib,

In Askari 1 Sarfraz Rafiqi Road flats have 4 different models

1985, 1992, 1994 (each model have 3 Floor ) + Seprate Car garage.

2011/2012 (4 Floor)

These flats have almost 10 Marla (2250 Square Feet) covered area.
3 Bed with attach bath, drawing room, TV/Dining room, store, Kitchen, Servant quarter, Back and Front Balkoni (not in 1985 model)

Sorry i don't have the latest rates information.

Akeel replied on Thursday, December 3, 2015 03:54 PM PST 

@Sleepless Dear in which area you bought this shop and what is the rent?

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, December 3, 2015 07:02 PM PST 

Thanks Muhammad Ayyaz Sahib for sharing the information.
Best regards.
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Wednesday, October 28, 2015 04:09 PM PST 

Bahria town is offering to exchange plots of DHA Valley allotees in Bahria Town Phase 8 Islamabad or Bahria Town Karachi.

No details have been mentioned about extra charges, if any or any other details.

Can anyone guide what is the best option.

a) Retain 8 marka, daisy block plot
b) Change plot with Bahria Town Phase 8 (8 marla)
c) Change plot with Bahria Town Karachi (8 marla)

I would appreciate feedback from LRE experts.

ALI replied on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 04:38 PM PST 

never exchange with karachi; phase 8 good option

akhter replied on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 05:23 PM PST 

Stay away fm khi

MNM replied on Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:54 PM PST 

Can you tell please how and when that offer was made as I have a plot in DHA Valley as well. Thanks a lot.

Sleepless replied on Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:37 PM PST 

Check any major newspaper or visit bahria town website

Khan replied on Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:41 PM PST 

News link:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/index.aspx?Issue=NP_ISB&Page=Back_Page008&Date=20151028&Pageno=8&View=1

Hussain replied on Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:46 PM PST 

Assalam-o-Alikum,

I also have a plot (8 marla) in Oleander Block of DHA Valley. I had a look at their ad in today's Jang and was wondering if it would be a good option to apply for exchange with Baharia Phase-8 Rawalpindi. I am not considering Baharia Karachi. I am abroad and have very little familiarity with Rwp/Isb property market. I would strongly appreciate any input in this regard.

Jazaak Allah Khairan

MNM replied on Friday, October 30, 2015 03:09 AM PST 

Thank you for the reply
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