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Friday, September 9, 2016 12:19 AM PST 

What is happening with DHA Multan? Decline and decline only.....ANY REASON? multan is below 40 lac so it is exempted from recent taxes...even then :h :h
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(76186)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 11:23 PM PST 

Aslamualikum Lahorereal estate salman bhai or hassan raza saab if u can plz evaluate my plots
pHASE 7 y 3035 1 KANAL 100FEET ROAD
pHASE 7 Y 2489/3 1 KANAL
PHASE 7 Y 3991 10 MARLA
PHASE 7 Y 3964 10 MARLA ...
what would u suggest should i sell sell my both 10 marla plots in upcoming months or hold it more or buy Phase 9 1 kanal plot at excellent location near park or golf course for future .if u can quote me phase 9 prism 1 kanal excellent location plots as well thanks

Lahore Real Estate replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 03:00 PM PST 

Dear Bilal Sb,

Phase 7 near Y 3035 is around 135 lacs.

Plot price near Y 2489/3 is around 115 lacs.

Market price of your plot near Y 3991 is around 75 to 76 lacs.

Evaluation near Y 3964 is around 75 to 76 lacs.

Sell your 10 marla plots, buy a good
location plot in prism.From an investment point of view Phase 9 Prism is the go to place, if you could sell that phase 7 plot and reinvest in Prism it will be extremely beneficial in the longer run.



Khadim hussain
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM
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(76184)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 08:12 PM PST 
Suigas 1

dear waqas sb please reply:

Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:36 AM PST Reply: >


Suigas 1
Dear CMY
Pls assess the Price and contact
Thanking you i remain
with the best of regards
Iftikhar


Iftikhar replied on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 12:39 AM PST

Suigas 1, Block D, no. 180, 1 Kanal, facing park


Lahore Real Estate replied on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:42 AM PST

Dear Sir,

Evaluation near D 180 is around 58 to 60 lacs.




Mian Waqas
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM


Iftikhar replied on Tuesday, September 6, 2016 10:39 PM PST

Mian Waqas sb it is Suigas Phase 1
Pls reply
Thanx

Jameel Mughal® replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 05:44 PM PST 

I think he replied for 180 D Sui gas 2 that looks bit High Evaluation
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(76183)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 06:22 PM PST 

Dear LRE,

Please suggest, What is the best buy at this time within budget of 50Lakh.

Thanks/Regards

Kaashif replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 07:59 PM PST 

Dear LRE
Team,

I heard that Final hearing against the NFC2 Election is on 4th October... is it right?

Please also guide what would be the hold period of NFC2 Plot

Thanks

Lahore Real Estate replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 08:59 PM PST 

Dear Mr Kaashif,


No, 4 October is not confirm date.

Its right time to sell the plot, because now its on peak price and coming days it can be expected that
prices comes down.If you want to sell your plot so do it.Choice is yours.


Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM

Unregistered replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 09:57 PM PST 

I could not understand why you are suggesting me to buy NFC2 if it has already taken the maximum value ??? As on the same post you are assisting one guy to buy this and on the other hand you are asking another guy to sale it as it upto max level :)

I am new in this forum but what I have understood that it is useless to ask questions as the answers are not fruitful.

Aseem replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:32 PM PST 

Dear Sir....in the same thread of discussion you are advising that its the best time for selling and buying NFC2.....kindly explain further...i have K87 10 marla..should i hold or sell?

Kaashif replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 01:57 AM PST 

i m totally agreed with " Unregistered ".
couldn't understand the point...

advising one person to buy becaz of low budget and other to sell becaz it has already reached the maximum point...
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(76182)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:43 PM PST 
Plots For Sale In DHA Phase 8 & Phase 8 IVY Green

Block - Z1

Plot No 392

Aera - 10 Marla

Demand 66 Lacs ( Cost Of Land )



Block - Z4

Plot No 329

Aera - 5 Marla

Demand 52 Lacs ( All Dues Clear )



Phase 8

Block X

Plot 185

Aera 1 Kanal

Demand 170 Lacs

More Info Plz Call



Khadim hussain
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK.COM



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(76181)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:29 PM PST 
Plots For Sale By Lahore Real Estate 08 Sep 2016

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(76180)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:25 PM PST 
Investors Must Stay Clear Of Falling Real Estate of Dubai

Dubai is a MLM Pyramid scheme. Only new influx of foolish investors feeds to the existing ones already conned in to it. When new influx of money slows or stops, investors will go bust or bankrupt.

Do your research and educate yourself before losing in Dubai. Invest in your own country Pakistan with a lot of potential for huge long term gains. Dubai market is already over supplied and they are adding countless new supply to already oversupplied market. Now to make Pakistanis fool they have started to market plots in sand deserts 50 KM away from Shaikh Zayed road. That's Amazing. Fools investing in Dubai will soon regret.


http://www.arabianbusiness.com/dubai-property-price-declines-to-accelerate-in-coming-months--635055.html


Dubai property price declines 'to accelerate in coming months'

The fall in Dubai property values and rents is set to continue over the summer, despite some predictions that the market has bottomed out, a local expert has warned.

In its latest research note, Phidar Advisory said that since Dubai rents peaked in May 2014, the market had declined by an average of -0.3 percent.

However, in May, the monthly rent decline widened to -1.3 percent.

“In a down-cycle, the lowest advertised rent is particularly sensitive to market shifts and can be the harbinger of market trends,” the research said.

“By the beginning of June, the lower limits of asked rents decreased by 4.1 percent compared to the same week of the previous month.

“This is a significant monthly decrease, even for Dubai real estate, a market that regularly experiences annual volatility of 20-30 percent, both on the up- and down-cycles."

Phidar said that although less than 20,000 residential units had been completed over the past year, giving some stability to the market, anecdotal evidence pointing to a pattern of redundancies and slowed job growth – as a result of the impact of the oil price and tighter regional liquidity – might be beginning to take their toll.

“Rent declines usually turn into sale price declines, especially considering the prevalence of yield-sensitive investors,” the research added.

“So, the sale price decline will likely accelerate in the coming months.”

Phidar also said that the oversupply in Dubai’s residential market was expected to remain until 2019.

The firm said that apartment rents had dropped by 1.5 percent during the first half of the second quarter, while sales fell by 3 percent.

Villa rents declined by 3.2 percent, although prices remained stable. In March, real estate consultant ValuStrat said that Dubai property prices may have bottomed out, with values rising slightly in February.


MOST IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE:

"Phidar also said that the oversupply in Dubai’s residential market was expected to remain until 2019."

AvoidDubaiCrisis replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:37 PM PST 

In fact smart investors know very well that the worse oversupply will be beyond 2020 when all this hype of Expo 2020 will be over and temporary residents will leave all this huge supply behind. This is why this leg of decline in Dubai property started few months after announcement of Expo 2020, still continues, and will continue for many many years to come.

Bilal® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 06:17 PM PST 

Dubai South a huge project (7 sq km) was launched a couple of days ago. Sold at the same day.


Slight ups and downs are everywhere. Dubai is a different story... Less or no capital appreciation but great rental income.

I wonder why un-registered people are still allowed to post?

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 07:41 PM PST 

Just a random search on internet Studio apartment at Al Mamzar 536 sq. ft. for sale at 280K AED (arnd 80 lac) and currently on rent at 38K AED (arnd 10.8 lac).
Such a high rental yield! Can anyone verify that?
https://dubai.dubizzle.com/
Can someone please share top places to invest in Dubai and charges associated with maintenance of property

Nabeel® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 08:02 PM PST 

Khwaja Sb. the property you are talking about is The Square, Mamzar.

Buyers are not interested in the property as there are prohibitive terms by the developer for selling and rental.

You are missing the key element of Rental yield, which is the service charges per square foot.After deducting those, the rental yield doesn't look so nice. These are high in The Square.

User_9325® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 08:06 PM PST 

7-8 percent rental yield is peanuts in my eyes(after deducting maintainance etc). I think Pak real estate has potential to return lot more then that in long term if invested intelligently. even some mutual funds in Pakistan offer much higher yield with option to cash out anytime yu like

ayla replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:28 PM PST 

User 9325 please recommend some good options for mutual fund investments with the option of cashing any time thanks

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:31 PM PST 

@Nabeel @User_9325
Thank you for your replies! I also believe Pakistan real estate market has lot of potential, I am not interested in Dubai market! But those who decided to invest in Dubai should invest in projecs which would give them high yield and capital gain.
The benefit of Pakistani is a benefit of Pakistan! Please help listing top 10 properties to invest in Dubai so that our countrymen invest get 50-100% gain in 3-5 years and then reinvest in Pakistan later maybe!
Dubai is global market, people spend millions in shopping, the current
prices are peanut at bottom low , good time to invest condition is if invest in potential areas!

Aseem replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:38 PM PST 

Dear user 9325...reference your post, kindly
update about the mutual funds you consider the best...I have researched on Mufap but none of the funds appears to be paying higher than 7% inn view of extremely shaky stock market...thanks and regards...

User_9325® replied on Friday, September 9, 2016 12:01 AM PST 

I recommend UBL islamic funds. please dont go for pure equity based funds as Stock Market can fall anytime. Instead opt for Islamic Asset Allocation fund which goes into different sectors of economy thus hedging from any loss from a particular sector. ABL also is good I have heard. yu can find recent performances of these funds on their websites. please forgive me for any wrong financial terminologies as I actually belong to Medical line and havent studied finance after matric :)

ShahzadQamar® replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 03:39 AM PST 

UBL Islamic funds? Come on my friend don't throw the visitors of this site in some huge black hole. It is much better to take a risk on your own shoulders by investing somewhere rather than putting this risk on a Bank's shoulders.

User_9325® replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 05:17 AM PST 

@shahzad... few people asked me above to recommend. thats why I did. plus I think jumping into dubai property at this time iis even a bigger risk. trust me, I am not the owner of UBL and hence wont get any advantage by promoting.
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(76179)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:10 PM PST 
Sale advice and Price Evaluation

Please evaluate my 10 marla plot in Prism.

Prism L-1449

How much I can get for it (2 installments paid). Please advice if it is good to hold. If holding strength is max 3 years.

Lahore Real Estate replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:25 PM PST 

Dear MR Arif,


Prim price near L 1499 is around 55 lacs ( 3 paid ).

Hold it.



Jawad Ahmad
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK
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(76178)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 04:55 PM PST 
Dha Rahbar Extension

Dear Team
Please evaluate plot # 232 of Block M, DHA Rahbar Extension. Further should i sale it now or hold till possession

Regards
Yasser

Lahore Real Estate replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 05:26 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Your plot near M 232 is around 50 lacs.

Yes, hold till possession.




Jawad Ahmad
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Lahore Real Estate
Email:INFO@LREPK
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(76177)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 04:22 PM PST 
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Plots For Sale

DHA Lahore Prism 9 Plots For Sale

DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 120 Block A At 117 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 955 Block B At 115 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 41 Block B At 113 Lacs(1 Kanal), Attractive Deal.
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 816 Block C At 88 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 933 Block C At 99 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 170 Block C At 118 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 944 Block D At 105 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 808 Block E At 115 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 80 Block F At 115 Lacs(1 Kanal), Attractive Price Near Main Boulevard
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 1186 Block F At 105 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 130 Block G At 126 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 530 Block G At 125 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 104 Block H At 116 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 09 Block K At 105 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 255 Block M At 112 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 943 Block N At 105 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 267 Block P At 120 Lacs(1 Kanal)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 80 Block F At 115 Lacs(1 Kanal)

DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 1686 Block C At 76 Lacs(10 Marla)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 3155 Block J At 75 Lacs(10 Marla)

DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 2042 Block R At 45 Lacs(05 Marla)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 344 Block R At 45 Lacs(05 Marla)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 1664 Block J At 42 Lacs(05 Marla),Corner
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 3132 Block K At 33 Lacs(05 Marla)
DHA Lahore Prism 9 Near Plot No. 1896 Block R At 39 Lacs(05 Marla)

For DHA Lahore Prism 9 Map:
http://www.lahorepakistan.net/maps/DHA-Lahore-Phase-9-Map-Prism-9.html

For Best Buying And Selling In Prism 9 Please Contact:

Mian Fawad Ahmad
Lahore Real Estate
Cell: +923024489001
e-Mail: INFO@LREPK.Com
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(76175)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 02:12 PM PST 
Bahria Orchard 1 Kanal Brand new House For Sale

Bahria Orchard Raiwind Raod Lahore 1 Kanal Brand New House For Sale.

Its very good deal ready to move in Asking Price is 19.5 Million Rs

Pay 11 Million Rs at the time of transfer Balance in 2 years installments.

For more info Plz Call Or Email.

0300/322-4009766
masaeed786@gmail.com





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sulie replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 06:53 PM PST 

May I know what is original price at launch. I am interested in this property. Regards

SIM replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 07:08 PM PST 

Is is ready for possession?
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(76173)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 12:01 PM PST 

Dear LRE Team and other distinguished members,

I need some information regarding to construction of my house as follows :

1) I want to construct house on 1 Kanal in DHA 6.
2) The idea is to construct a basement, ground floor and upper floor. Both ground and upper floors to be independent portions with at least three bedrooms each. The upper portion to be rented out and the basement and ground floor for personal use.
3) What should be the expected cost per foot for a finished house of such dimensions.
4) Any other issues that need to be looked into.

Thanks.

Hashim® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 02:42 PM PST 

I am Civil Engineer, planning for my One Kanal House in DHA 6. but not going for basement. If you would go for Good Construction it would be near abt Rs 2500/sft. If excellent construction it would be at Rs 3000/sft. Basement cost will be 1.5 times higher than GF & FF.
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Thursday, September 8, 2016 08:14 AM PST 
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Thursday, September 8, 2016 04:20 AM PST 
Simulation to estimate rational prices of Prism plots

Dear All
 
Like many of you (followers of this discussion forum), I am a real estate investor and prospective buyer waiting for prices to come down to rational levels before making my intended investment(s). As part of the preparatory work and capitalizing on my limited financial and investment analysis skills, I did a simple simulation to try to estimate “target return based” fair prices for canal plots in Prism today.
 
The methodology adopted for this simulation is that after a certain number of years (holding period), prism will develop into a mature phase (say like DHA Phase-5 today) and upon reaching such maturity, prices of plots in Prism will be comparable to current prices in Phase-5 adjusted for inflation during the holding period. By assuming certain average inflation rate per year and current estimated prices in Phase-5, we can project the potential prism prices at the end of the holding period. By discounting the value of the plot at the end of the holding period at the target rate of return per year, we can estimate what is maximum price we should pay for the plot today in order to achieve the target rate of return. The development charges yet to be paid are also taken into consideration as additional cost for buyer in this analysis along with transaction costs (agent fees, taxes etc.).
 
For the sake of this simulation, canal plots in prism are divided into five categories which are (i) best locations, (ii) great locations, (iii) good locations, (iv) average locations and (v) poor locations.
 
The analysis is done based on US dollar values as inflation rate is more predictable.
 
Following are the key assumptions for the analysis:
-          Current plot prices in Phase-5 for above categories are (i) Best at US$ 355 thousand, (ii) great at US$ 315 thousand, (iii) good at US$ 280 thousand, (iv) average at US$ 240 thousand and (v) poor at  US$ 200 thousand

-          Annual growth (inflation) of above mature prices is assumed at 2.5%

-          Target rate of return is assumed at 10% per year

-          Holding period is assumed at 15 years (estimated time for Prism to reach the maturity level in which Phase-5 is today)

Based on the above assumptions, the maximum prices (including transaction charges) which may be rational to pay today for the five categories of plots in Prism to achieve the target return are estimated as (i) best at US$ 110 thousand, (ii) great at US$ 95 thousand, (iii) good at US$ 85 thousand, (iv) average at US$ 70 thousand and (v) poor at US$ 56 thousand.
I thought of sharing the above analysis with other readers of this forum with the hope that it may help other potential buyers like me to make a bit more informed and rational decision based on some degree of analysis
 

alpha replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 01:33 PM PST 

Good - but you need to account for behavioral biases of influencers - CMY's blue-eyed child treatment of P9 and step-child treatment of P7

MD® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 01:47 PM PST 

Price wise it will mature earlier than 15 years may be within 5 to 7 years max as happened in the case of Phase 8 ... so as an investor it should be your holding period max. After that
prices will increase gradually and you will have better option to available in market.
15 years may be to become as populated as phase 5 today.

KS® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 02:34 PM PST 

@KSA Banker very rational analysis based on good assumptions; however Pakistan property market is weired, its not based on fundamentals and greatly manipulated by investors/insiders/dealers.
As an example On pure financial grounds commercial properties price does not make any sense when compared with rental yield.
@ Alpha -agree with you one can see all sort of emotional and behavioral biases affecting the market.

Khawaja Qasim® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 02:43 PM PST 

@KSA Banker, excellent analysis! You nailed it!

Usama Javed® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 03:16 PM PST 

Anybody please if wants to sell his best
location plots in prism at 110 as recommended by banker sahib may contact i can buy at 110 right away. But my defination of best location is plots like facing Gc on 150 feet, facing Tp, corners at wide roads facing parks etc

Usama Javed® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 03:17 PM PST 

looking for 2 to 3 plots.

MY replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 06:46 PM PST 

Well done

Nabeel® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 08:16 PM PST 

Banker Sb, I think the assumption of rational buying does not come into play, otherwise people would not buy plots next to airport or where the whole area is surrounded by carpet factories, leather tanneries,animal research centre, Roohi Nala, that pollute the groundwater or right next to big highways etc :-)

As some of our respected gurus pointed out, DHA particularly does not follow rational trends as many well-to-do overseas friends (looking for hassle free investment ) and domestic black money gets parked in DHA.

Like one property dealer told me "DHA mein mitti sona hai". That is the reality and science fails here.

@anticipation replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 09:20 PM PST 

In simple wording, prism good
location plot bought today will be 8-9 crore pkr after a decade!

Junglee replied on Saturday, September 10, 2016 02:28 PM PST 

Hahahaha... Greed is curse. Sab Ko mamoo bana Gaye dar Sahab and investors.

Koi maanay Na maanay investor bhaag Gaya hai ab 4-5 saal baad hoga jo hona hai and buying will be after elections not before.
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(76169)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 04:04 AM PST 

What is the value of 20 lacs of 2007 vs now 2016 in property terms please reply
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(76168)
Thursday, September 8, 2016 01:21 AM PST 
Eden Gardens Update?

Salam

I know LRE dont deal with Eden Housing Projects but if any property gurru who may have any information or update about Eden Gardens project at ferozpur road?

Thank you

S.Hameed® replied on Thursday, September 8, 2016 02:28 PM PST 

Stay away from any project of Eden Group. They are thugs.
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