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Help required

Dear Admin,

This is non property question please allow it to be there for some time.

Actually I want suggestion from friends about immigration.

Which place is better Australia or canada.

I have both PRs now need to decide where to go

Kabooter replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:36 PM PST 

It depends on your profession. Each country has its own pros and cons and you should choose a country on the basis of professional prospects. Alternatively ask Iqra which PR he/she wants, the choice problem will automatically be solved :).

Iqra replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 11:02 PM PST 

will go with Aussie for sure

Darwaish® replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 12:50 AM PST 

I will tell you a short story of my own. I was travelling from Heathrow to Toronto. The purpose this time was to land as immigrant to Canada. Seat next to me was occupied by a middle aged British lady. We started talking. To cut story short, she asked me the purpose of my travel to Toronto and I told her I am going for landing as an immigrant to Canada. I asked her the same question you have posed since I had the option to immigrate to Australia. The lady told me there is a basic difference in people's attitudes between Canada and Australia. Original white Canadians are mostly of Irish descent while Australians are Brits. She said the Irish origin people are decent, more polite and accommodative as compared to Brits.She happened to be English as well. And she told me that I have made a right choice.I had the advantage of going to Canada since I was educated there and had lived as a student for many years and therefore knew the country.
But I must tell you that was the time when Imran Khan had married Jamiama. Now many years have passed. Australians are getting better in their attitudes and are more receptive now. Weather wise Australia is better. My suggestion would be to visit both the countries and check with the friends and relatives who are living there. Australia also feels closer to Pakistan.

Kam replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 01:56 AM PST 

East and the west. Pakistan is the best.
I àm living in KSA. I am trying hard to quite from here.and move to pakistan.

Irfan292 replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 02:09 AM PST 

If you have got both PRs, you must be an educated and qualified person probably well set in your profession.
For anyone who is well set locally, there is no place on earth like your homeland. This is not just an emotional statement, it is based on facts.

MIT® replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 02:21 AM PST 

Though I myself live in USA, but I agree first with Irfan292 & Kam and then with Darwaish as well.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 02:24 AM PST 

Australia is better in climate there is prejudice and hate crimes, economy is slow immigration is not flexible like in Canada you go for it if you really think you will move there.
Canada Climate is very cold, Less prejudice and hate as so most people will be immigrants, Still Lot of room to grow, real estate is booming there even more than USA. Soon Canada will also lose flexibility of immigarion as they are making is more and more tough for people who are 1/2 hearted about immigration .
But again immigration is not my Subject

Ah replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 06:40 AM PST 

Winter is very harsh in Canada.we r not use to live in like this weather.people r friendly. Asian and south Asians r well settled here,u can imagine that Canadian defense minister is from Sikh community.its good to live in Pakistan but if after sacrifice of few years u can get a passport of civilized country than its worthy.u would b able to travel all around the world still u could face some hurdles when they will see your place of birth.keep in mind raising children here is a big risk.

Haider replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 11:06 AM PST 

Australia has better climate. Almost like Pakistan. But people there have somehow rude attitude. Canada has better people, better culture, better economy. But there is 4-5 months EXTREME winter period in canada. If I was you, I would choose canada.

Salman679 replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 12:23 PM PST 

There are 4 major factors to take into consideration for immigration.
1-Kids studies
2-Salary wages rate
3-Career growth
4- Weather

In studies,Australia is no.4 and Canada is no.5.list is USA,UK,Germany ,Australia, Canada

2-Australian avg salary per hour is $15,Canada is $10

3-All regional head quarters for Asia /pacific regions are in Australia or Singapore.While US is main hub fro head quarter in other part.

4-Best weather in Australia while Canada:)

Regards,

Nabeel replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 12:42 PM PST 

It all depends on your circumstances, and your expectations.

If you are in a well-paying job currently, and expecting to be employed in a white-collar job in either of those countries..
DO Not...Repeat: DO NOT leave your job in the hopes of landing a white-collar job after you migrate. White-collar jobs are rare in those countries.

If you are young, and plan to run your own business when you land there, or OK with doing odd jobs once you reach there, its a good option.

Skyliner replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 01:40 PM PST 

Australia feels like home especially because of the weather and landscape.
While comparing the two is hard without a definite criteria, I'd say Canada is way too saturated now and probably difficult to penetrate for newbies whilst Australia has a lot of untapped potential and space for newbies.

I have never experienced racism alhamdulillah and nor did any of my friends.

If you want to judge a nation based on the behavior of a few bogans, then you can imagine what should be the image of Pakistan, where we burn down whole families in an instant based on racism, religion or difference of opinion. So don't undermine Australia with the myth of Racism.

Between the two, in these times, I'd go for Australia, good for business, work life balance and very energetic/sporty place to raise your kids.

Nadeem® replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 02:26 PM PST 

I was in similar situation couple of years ago and decided in favor of Australia mainly due to weather. It's true economic conditions are not great and as per my knowledge same situation is in Canada. Have many friends and family members in Canada. It's equally hard to find a good job for a new comer in both countries as someone rightly pointed out in comments above.
If there are no personal issues I still recommend Australia.

luqman replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 03:58 PM PST 

Which place of Canada has best weather and has least cold in winter.

SubCon replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 05:23 PM PST 

Completely depends on your profession but I would personally prefer Canada over Australia but that is because of personal bias perhaps. I consider Canada for attached and integrated with the rest of the world whereas Australia is somewhat disconnected due to its
location. Also, I find Canadian Universities more well known across the world as opposed Australian. People in Canada are much more accomodating than Australia.

mrwise replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 05:47 PM PST 

just moving out and leaving ur white collar job here will not solve the problem , there is a lot of struggle in these countries doing odd job and may take u lot of time to settle and khawari as well , if u are qualified enough or u have money to open up ur own small business than it is ok , going there empty handed is not a good idea , remember there are no white collar jobs for u very very rare.so to cut short forget about the weather and attitudes but focus on ur action plan what to do there and how to settle well . take enough funds think about ur childern education plan and see if u can begin ur own small business .getting a passport only after so much waiting and suffering should not be the only aim ,it is to settle down successfully so go ahead and take ur shot australia or canada

oz replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 08:39 PM PST 

I have been living in Australia from last 15 years. Mild winter & summer.If you want to enjoy 24/7 then Australia is best. Regarding jobs, if you are in IT or finance then Australia is not bad. For science graduates it is not a great place. One of the most expensive country in the world though. Sydney is very multicultural, with halal food easy to find. I do not know much about Canada though.

AB replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 09:29 PM PST 

My dear brothers. The aim of this wordly life according to the Holy Quran is to worship Allah. No body has suggested to Mr PPAKI that in which country you will be able to accomplish your religious obligations in a better way. This life is temporary so think and prepare the life to come. May Allah guide us to the right path.

Mrs Khan replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 11:03 PM PST 

I always vote for canada because of its cultural diversity. It is a good place to live and raise kids but not better than Pakistan. I think you are educated person, you need to choose one according to the availably of jobs there.
I was in the same boat 10 years ago when I have to decide between US and Canada. That was very hard for me and I did "ISTIKHARA" . So seek ALLAH's guidance. HE will take you at the right path and help you on very step there.
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 09:17 PM PST 
Dha rahber

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Size
Demand(Rs)
For Sale
Lahore
Dha
11
R
2.2 crore
For sale Dha rahber commercial file 4 M.
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 08:52 PM PST 

Any one have any idea about when market will be flooded with phase 9 extension files as every one was saying on this forum that there will be alot of files in market soon
And price of extension file may fall down???

Awais Ibraheem replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 01:54 AM PST 

Ignorant Ekrar misleaded people while I was crying that he is wrong !
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 07:42 PM PST 
Price Evaluation DHA Phase 6 M-376

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
Cur. Rate
Lahore
DHA
6
M
376
One Kanal
Please Evaluate.
Thanks
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 07:30 PM PST 
Sui Gas 2

Ad Type
Scheme
Phase
Block
Plot
Size
For Sale
Sui GAs 2
2
G
near 269
1 kanal
Pls evaluate plot near G 269. 1 kanal - Sui gas phase 2

Should I hold it or sell it

Thanks

LRE® replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 01:55 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

SuiGas Market value near G 269 is around 51 to 52 lacs

If you want to sell this plot now this plot is on good price.Other wise hold this plot for 2 year.Choice is yours.


MIAN WAQAS
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 07:29 PM PST 
AWT2 2.66 marla commercial for investment

How is AWT2 commercial from investment point of view ??

2.66 marlas possession plots are available at fairly cheap price. Location of this society is awsome. and it will be one of prime in coming days owing to coming developments int his area.

Apart from development and maintenance related things, is there any other valid issue with this society ?? all serious comments will be appreciated

JazakAllah

Hawk Eye replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 08:10 PM PST 

What is the size of commercial plot in AWT2 and also please guide us about price range .Does it have Rome to grow ?

Akhtar Rasheed replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 08:23 PM PST 

55-65 range

Hawk Eye replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 01:37 AM PST 

55 to 65 lac for what area?5 Marla?
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 06:40 PM PST 
plot evaluation

Dear UPN,

Please evaluate 104-C nargis block, bahria town.
its 10 marla plot

Regards

UPN replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 07:17 PM PST 

Assessment For:
Bahria Town Lahore Plot # 104 Sector C, Nargis Block (10 Marla)

Plot’s actual Current Marketable Price Range (CMPR) for Direct Clients/ End User is:
68 to 69 Lakhs

Regular investors may offer around:
67 Lakh with 4 to 6 Weeks Time

We can try to sell through these two options.

EXPLANATION:

Option 1:
Sell around the Current Marketable Price Range (CMPR)

Direct buyers (clients / end users) may buy around 68 to 69 Lakhs. Depending on availability of such buyer it make take from a few days to a few weeks to lock a deal.

Option 2:
Sell a little below the Current Marketable Price Range (CMPR)

Regular investors in market may offer you around 67 Lakhs with 4 to 6 Weeks Time during which they will try to sell within MPR, and try to make a profit. They don’t always make profit and they create liquidity in the market. Be very careful when doing this. Only sell through very reliable dealers who won’t give you hard time for payment after agreed time has passed.

Best Regards,

Universal Property Network (UPN)
Sector C, Bahria Town, Lahore
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http://www.ourupn.com

Pakistan® replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 07:28 PM PST 

Thanks UPN

thats an awesome way of explaining the price trend while educating seller-buyer both

UPN replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 08:31 PM PST 

You welcome.Thank you for your valuable feedback.
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 05:20 PM PST 
9 prism

I want investment in DHA 9prism.what is the value
of upper cutting plot R block or J block.
With development charges :h
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 05:17 PM PST 
Phase 9 prism

Dear Salman Maqsood / Asim Irfan please evaluate plot No P 811 of phase 9 prism. Thanks for the help.

LRE® replied on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 02:39 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

prism near P 811 is around 62 lacs included 1st installment paid


SALMAN MAQSOOD
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LAHORE REAL ESTATE
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 04:43 PM PST 
DHA Rahber-2 Commercial

Dear LRE and CMY,

What is the price of DHA Rahber phase-2 4 marla commercial file?? Is it available with LRE ? How good is this for investment point of view in 2year span ??

Waiting for a timely response.

Regards,
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 04:24 PM PST 
Lahore Ring Road

Please explain the route of ring road path from adda plot to?tan road.Which socities are effecting I mean from which societies it passes.As earlier there were news that it will effect Bhatia town.and.bahria town suffer from this.Do it effect awt2?

mnn replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 01:13 AM PST 

awt 2 safe and it will increase

Waseem Niaz replied on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:54 PM PST 

AWT 2 is the most safe and idela society and It will be most beneficial society after LRR because it is the society that is the most nearest one from Adda plot and LRR has interchange at adda plot
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 04:09 PM PST 
For Sale @ UPN, and Buying Requirements

<=== Latest UPN Inventory: 22 May, 2016

:1) :1) :1) :1) :1) :1) :1)

For Buying/Selling in Bahria Town, Please Contact:

Rana Adnan Mudassar
Bilal Shamim
Waqas Naseer
Mian Zeeshan Rasool
Iftikhar Ahmad

Shahid Yousuf
M. Saleem CH.
Muhammad Roshan
M. Nabeel
M. Imran Ch.


Best Regards,
Universal Property Network
(affiliated with Lahore Real Estate)
https://www.lahorerealesate.com
https://www.lahorerealesate.com/Ads
22 A, Main Boulevard Commercial
(In Front Of Roshaan Center, Near Green Pharmacy)
Sector C, Bahria Town, Lahore

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email:
http://www.ourupn.com

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Lahori_guy_2 replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 04:53 PM PST 

Hi UPN,

Can you please assess 122A Tariq bin Ziyad - 1 Kanal on main boulevard.

UPN replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 05:53 PM PST 

Assessment For:
Bahria Town Lahore Plot # 122A Main boulevard Tariq Bin Ziyad Block (1 Kanal)

Plot’s actual Current Marketable Price Range (CMPR) for Direct Clients/ End User is:
71 to 72 Lakhs

Regular investors may offer around:
69 to 70 Lakh with 4 to 6 Weeks Time

We can try to sell through these two options.

Best Regards,

Universal Property Network (UPN)
Sector C, Bahria Town, Lahore
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http://www.ourupn.com
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 03:51 PM PST 
Golf View Residencia

Guys! What is the future of Golf view residencia project of bahria town lahore. MR said in last meeting that development will start within 25 days. Count down have been finished but no development still starts. What do you suggest I should hold file OR sale out this.
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 02:31 PM PST 
Phase 9 Prism Map

LRE Team,
Where I can find Phase 9 Prism map on WEBSIDE.
When I click phase 9 on Map It always give map of phase 8? Please guide me.
Many Thanks

Ashfaq® replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 02:41 PM PST 

http://www.lahorepakistan.net/maps/DHA-Lahore-Phase-9-Map-Prism-9.html
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 02:31 PM PST 

Does anyone know about halloki interchange on LRR. Sine it is near railway line, it seems only people on one side of railway line will be able to access it easily. On the other side commuters may have to go to kahna kachha flyover and back to interchage. Whay
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 02:00 PM PST 
Impact of Budget on Property Market

I see lot of headlines in today news papers for upcoming budget. Inflation rate is increasing along with taxes as per state bank. Bank rates are decreasing along with foreign remittances. Future is unstable as per state bank report.

How do you think it will effect property market? positive or negative.

joker replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 04:01 PM PST 

do you want to invest 20 billion?

Hawk Eye replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 04:15 PM PST 

Property market will suffer because I see there will be market correction and summer,ramzan,budget,taxes so I think in coming few months market will be corrected

Babar Awan replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 05:01 PM PST 

Lets see, no doubt indicators are negative but in current situation property would be the best investor option, as all other investments opportunaties does not offer good return. So to me property will be the safe bet,

Financial_Experts replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 05:48 PM PST 

property
prices are likely to decline if new taxes are applied. Investors will withdraw their investments since selling/buying will become more expensive which will generate surplus of available plots with lesser buyers.

FBR replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 08:55 PM PST 

Paisay Bank me Rakhna is a big Risk 1 Million Se Upar ka cheque hoto direct FBR ko report jati he kisi ka bhi account check kar sakti he FBR is liye Property is The Best Option to conceal Money aur Pakistan ne property Nichey janay ka Sawal hi paida nhi hota yahan property Hamesha Upar jati he

taxman replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 09:04 PM PST 

Spreading rumors and panic people is much easier as compare to suggest an alternate proposal. Similar posts from the same guy showing the trend that after new budget property market will be totally crashed ...... better sale-out your property before budget. Coz after budget investors will take out their investment and start investing in offshore companies or either will keep that amount in the layers of blankets with Phenyl tablets inside trunks.

Kureshi® replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:10 PM PST 

If it's a serious discussion ....

I see no significant affect. Investors earn in millions and taxes are in thousands. The implemented tax will be on DC value which is far below the actual price and hence the impact should be bearable.

Kabooter replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:45 PM PST 

I agree with Kureshi sb. In my opinion, it will not have a significant impact. However, I do expect that the current trend in
prices will not continue for long. I guess that the prices will stabilize or will see some correction in the next few weeks or after summer. I do not see a major reversal in prices in the future. It is just guess work, only Allah knows about the future.

Desert man replied on Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:53 PM PST 

What will be the increase in taxes will it be more than gains in profit which is not possible. One thing is for sure property in Pakistan will always give you heafty returns specially in big cities like lahore Islamabad Karachi etc so relax and enjoy the investments

Jk replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 04:04 AM PST 

Good topic to debate. This is what is my two cents opinion. We need a price correction desperately. I am saying that even I have invested over 4 corors. The purpose of these societies and scheme is to provide affordable housing for a common man who is a professor in a university or a bank manager or any common man professional who wants to raise his family in respectful neighbor but unfortunately it has become impossible for a common man to even buy a 10 Marla plot and live in a decent societies. All the societies in Lahore especially are hijacked by foreign investors and few local investors. Yes they have the money and they don't want to build but yes they want to collect gains in 6 months or two years bec they can't find any better place where they can get this much return. It is government moral obligation and responsibilities to make sure that they get rid of these investors by imposing taxes and by putting restrictions for example if someone buy a plot they have to pay very heavy taxes if they sell it before 5 years or 10 years. This watta satta parallel stock market for file purchasing must end too where people are making money just buying and selling
files. I call it deharies. All these things are making impossible for common man to even think about building a house for his family. It is so sad. Government can end this all in one month by imposing taxes and policies which will discourage investor but unfortunately they will not do it because most of these societies are either own by politicians or they have huge stake. I feel sorry for common man and I swear to god I won't mind of my 1 coror plot price will adjust it to 60 lacs only if that makes it better for common Pakistani.

Jk replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 04:15 AM PST 

And I am sorry and I do apologies I can't stand some folks or talk here enjoy the gains on your investments? Bhai investments? You are inflating the
prices making it impossible for a common respectful professional living in Pakistan to provide a residence to his family in a decent socities and here we are enjoying the gains and return on our investments? Bhai please think about it at what cost? Kisi ka Gahar chain kar kisi Kay liya opportunities Kay darwazay band kar Kay. It is a shame. Government must restrict foreign Pakistan not to buy more than one plot or file and many other policies could by impose to discourage investors

haha mm replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 04:55 AM PST 

Mm you right .i myself invested 5 crores in property.this is not right way to earn money.govt should restrict to only one plot.they should impose atleast 50 % tax on buying and selling.they shoould destroy property mafia and restrict one kanal price to 40 lakh
10 marla for 25 lakh
5 matla for 15 lakh

IjazIqb replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 04:54 PM PST 

Totally agree with Mm. I do a job and my salary is well over 2 lac per month. After paying heavy tax, I take 2 lac home.

According to stats, I should fall in upper-middle or high class, but believe me I have not been able to build a five marla house in a good society yet (even after years). I had purchased a 5 marla file in prism and now saving money to build a house on it after possession (expected in 4-5 years). In short, it takes at least ten years to build a five marla house in a good society like DHA or Bahria for a man who is earning a good money like me.

If you talk about middle or lower-middle class, they should not even think about good societies. I know a few middle-class families invested a few lacs in good societies in past and they have built their houses now, but if you check the current
prices, they are too high for a common man to think about these societies.

I prey if our government changes (by hook or by crook) and someone good for the general public takes over. Common man will be able to think about roti, kapra and makan after that.

investor replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 09:54 PM PST 

common man or a bank employee ppl or a professor ye logo soch soch ke invest kartay hen utni der me price to upar jani hi hoti he agar price upar na jai to log kehne lag jatay hen SCHEME FAIL HO GAI :) so A common ppl should take timely decisions to make home at a good price

Jk replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 11:26 PM PST 

Bhai this logic does not make sense. Souch Souch kar. It takes time to save money. Bottom line in foreign investor or local investors should not be allowed to purchase more than one plot on there name and heavy penalties if someone want to sell the plot or file before 5 years of time. We criticize so much to our politicians but we are no less. We also have lots of Greed.

mm replied on Monday, May 23, 2016 11:26 PM PST 

Bhai this logic does not make sense. Souch Souch kar. It takes time to save money. Bottom line in foreign investor or local investors should not be allowed to purchase more than one plot on there name and heavy penalties if someone want to sell the plot or file before 5 years of time. We criticize so much to our politicians but we are no less. We also have lots of Greed.
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Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:25 PM PST 

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Cur. Rate
Lahore
DHA
Prism
B
Dear LRE Team,


Can you assess market rate of 1 Kanal plot near B-454 and near N-317 in DHA Prism. A
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