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(52539)
Monday, April 30, 2012 04:38 PM PST 
Unfair increase in Non-Construction Penalty by DHA,Lahore

I refer to advertisement dated 29/4/2012 published in The News whereby DHA ,Lahore has yet again unfairly increased Non-Construction Penalty. The reason given by DHA for the increase is that it has to spend millions of Rupees on maintenance and cleanliness of vacant plots.This is exaggeration. The increased yearly penalty for Non- Construction of 8 Marla plot is Rs. 200,000. I am sure the owner can make arrangement for cleanliness of his vacant plot in much less cost than Rs. 200,000 per annum. It is not clear what maintenance cost DHA is incurring on vacant plots. I am an overseas Pakistani who worked abroad many years and own a plot in DHA, Lahore. I do not have enough funds to build a house on my vacant plot.There are thousands overseas Pakistani like me who invested hard earned foreign exchange in DHA. Similarly there are thousands resident Pakistani who invested their hard earned money and own vacant plots in DHA, Lahore.They must have genuine reasons for not constructing house on their plots . Therefore, I request DHA Management to withdraw this unjustified increase of Non- Construction Penalty.

nas replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 05:37 PM PST 

Can You please give more details like which phase or it is for all phases

worried replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 06:04 PM PST 

Please post the news of provide the link

CH. replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 07:20 PM PST 

Dear Ejaz Ahmad,

It is said little knowledge is dangerous. When you present facts, provide full information.

I checked The NEWS and could not find the advertiesment. Then I went on Jang 29/4/12 and found the add.

Add is for Phase I to IV and Rs. 200,000.00 in for 8 marla Commercial plot.

Fawad replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 07:51 PM PST 

I m in the favour of such penalties. If you are not in a position to build an object, give it free for others. Sell it
and buy the newly developed plots. It makes no sense to hold a place unnecessarily.

Ejaz Ahmad replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 07:57 PM PST 

Dear Mr.Ch.

The advertisement did appear in The News dated 29/4/2012 on page 4. Yes the increase is for phase 1 to 4 and Rs.200,000 annual Non-Construction Penalty is for 8 Marla Commercial Plots. I don't know if there are 8 Marla Residential plots in phase 1 to 4. I believe the Increase in Non - Construction Penalty is not justified,even if it is for phase 1 to 4 .

Tariq Latif replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:27 PM PST 

I think it is justfied, your plot price has increased because other people have constructed their properties and residents feel insecure if they r living next to vacant land. I think u should sell it and buy in some other phase, so u can buy some time to build whatever u want at your convenience and let someone build this commercial plots for the neighborhood.

Ejaz Ahmad replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 02:00 PM PST 

Dear Mr. Tariq Latif,
I do not own a commercial plot. Did I write that I own a commercial plot. I own a residential plot . Your other comment regarding increase of price may not correct in all cases because it depends when an owner bought a plot. If an owner bought a plot 4 years back when dollar/rupee parity was about Rs 60 then really the owner has not made any profit if he converted his foreign exchange in Pak Rupee and bought a residential plot in phases 1 to 4

ghareeb admi replied on Thursday, May 3, 2012 04:13 PM PST 

@Fawad: fawad bhai ap pakistan me rehtey hain jahan log gari installments pe letey hain, tv qiston pe aata he, kameti daal k guzara kertey hain. ghareeb bandey k ikathey pese kahan se aaen, step by step chalna perta he. gher bananey k intizar me plot na lia jaey to us ki price bhi double ho jaey.

Qazi Nadeem replied on Thursday, May 12, 2016 08:38 PM PST 

chor bazari dha

Nadeem ahmad replied on Saturday, July 6, 2024 07:13 PM PST 

What is non construction plenty 10 year old 1 canal plot dha phase 6 block D
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(52538)
Monday, April 30, 2012 01:44 PM PST 

Every one is warned few smart & big holders have started to sell their DHA Lahore phase 9 allocation files (After the news of crappy file business in DHA valley Islamabad). NAB have started major investigation of DHA Valley Islamabad allocation files Scam.

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20120426

It is very likely DHA 9 Lahore file business will also be looked at closely by GHQ & NAB in next few days/weeks ahead. This was the major reason for nearly one lac price correction in DHA Lahore phase 9 files in last 2 days.

If you want to buy a file to be safe hold your purchase till its near 22 to 23 lacs price range. If you are a seller you must act fast and sell in hurry before its too late.

Regards

Hassan replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 02:23 PM PST 

lol... Mr Zeeshan... stop comparing apples with oranges...DHA valley was for sure a fraud and mostly ppl got to know as soon as they were alloted plots...if you ever get a access to go in the record room of
DHA lahore office you shall be able to see the land possesion record of all the villages :)
DHA phase 9 remain a best location and only hope to get a 1 kanal plot in DHA at 2.7 miilion (right now) and off course development charges shall be applicable once ballot is done ....wise man can imagine what shall be the price once the ballot is conducted :) :) thumbs up phase 9 holders....

Khan replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 03:03 PM PST 

Dear Zeeshan

Kindly talk logically about DHA 9 and do not through words in air without any strong point.

jk replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 03:27 PM PST 

Dear Zeeshan

Today's rate is the response to your view point.I am sure you will learn it is no more possible to devert the market with words.

umair replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 03:38 PM PST 

zeeshan ke baat may azan han eyes close kar danay say masla hal nahi ho ga its all fabricated , and soon this all will cum to an end

Faizan Maqsood replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 03:41 PM PST 

Mr Zeshan you r identified donkeys among the horses. It seems you wish to buy Dha - 9 File at 22 lacs that's why you tried to create panic for Dha-9 file holders. but sorry sir you have missed the train.

dr Khan replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 04:18 PM PST 

I dont see any sense in this analysis of Mr Zeeshan. DHA valley
files are not allocation files. How can you compare them only with phase 9 and not other phases? ... it is just silly.

ABC replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 06:16 PM PST 

All lovers of phase-9, are humbly requested to read below the post No. 58655, of Mrs. Baig.

asim replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 02:01 AM PST 

zeeshan thek kah raha tha its price is fabricated and soom this will cum down

IMRAN replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 03:37 PM PST 

I FULLY AGREE WITH ZEESHAN
PRICE IS NOT THE MATTER
CURRENTLY A GROUP OF INVESTORS AND DEALERS HAVE
A HUGE INVESTMENT IN PHASE 9
FILES AND THEY ARE
TRYING THEIR LEVEL BEST TO RETAIN THE MARKET AROUND 26-27
PLEASE WAIT AND SEE

UP replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 04:00 PM PST 

Good to have healthy discussions.... but lets try to keep discussions without humiliating and labeling donkey any person. Lets keep it professional and share the information with each other....

ZYZ replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 05:43 PM PST 

DHA Valley- Overseas Block developmet is going well.... the only thing is, handing over is not yet done..& some sector may face delay...

this price you will not get after 03 years in islamabad...

khan replied on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 05:05 AM PST 

mr ZYZ it seems that you know well about dha valley.i want to buy a 8 marla plot in valley.please tell me which block is good except overseas blocks for investment point of view.

ZYX replied on Wednesday, May 2, 2012 02:44 PM PST 

Sir,
I am also ready to buy in Overseas block, In Sunflower....
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(52537)
Monday, April 30, 2012 01:29 PM PST 
DHA Valley Scam

Dears,
any news about DHA valley scam news??? as i knew the NAB took the action but after that no news in any media, please share if any one have any news about the subejct.

Regards
Ali
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(52536)
Monday, April 30, 2012 12:41 PM PST 
Non construction charges at Bahria Town Sector-C Lahore

AOA Adil sahib,

Please guide us about the non construction charges at Bahria Town Sector-C Lahore.

GOD bless you.
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(52535)
Monday, April 30, 2012 10:44 AM PST 

good news for DHA RAHBAR giving possesion of phase 1 :cl :cl :cl how ll it effect price and market
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(52533)
Monday, April 30, 2012 12:28 AM PST 

Perhaps it will implement on the Bahria Town Lahore Sector-C also where the Bahria management is selling out the land reserved by them “on the time of getting approval” for PARKS. I hope in near future such plots also effect under this notification.

Approved replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 12:50 AM PST 

http://www.lda.gop.pk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15&Itemid=35
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(52532)
Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:44 PM PST 
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(52531)
Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:00 PM PST 
BT Sector C Jasmine and Gulmohar Block 10 Marla Plots

LRE Team / Respectable Friends,

We own two plots 10 Marla each in Jasmine and Gulmahar Blocks in BT Sec C, possession of these plots were taken in Feb 2010 and I heard we have to start construction by Feb 2013...otherwise BT Management will impose Non Construction Charges. We have no plan to move to Pakistan in near future. I have two options and need your guidance:-

1) Keep on paying Non Construction Charges to BT Management and sell these off when these plots gain some price ( not sure about Non Construction Charges asked by BT Lahore, kindly let me know if you know these charges details ?).

2) Sell one plot and do construction on other plot and rent out house (not sure about rental market in BT Sec C are).

I will be extremely thankful to you, if you kindly guide me with my options or if you have some other possible option in my scenario.


Appreciate your help,

Mrs Baig replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:04 PM PST 

sorry for typo..please read as not sure about rental market in BT Sec C are as "not sure about rental market in BT Sec C area".

thanks

Adnan replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:37 PM PST 

Dear Mrs. Baig

I am not a part of the LRE
team but I have been in similar situation. May be this will help. You cannot build a house with the money that you will get by selling a 10 marla plot in BT, you need to have around twice as much to build a house that you can rent. Renting a house in Pakistan while living abroad is a headache and has implications, I have rented my house with my mother and brother managing it, still it is a big hastle and not enough return. The price of BT 10 marla is not going to give you any substantial markup over the next 5 years, the main part of any price hike would actually be rupee devaluation. Paying non construction charges indefinitely is also not a good idea and will actually compensate any price increase. Therefore, I would suggest that you sell both the plots and buy in another scheme, e.g., DHA Phase 7 where you can buy a 1 kanal plot with this money, or you can buy two Phase 9 files and then relax for the next 5 to 8 years. On phase 9, you will have to pay development charges which should be around 3 million for two plots, but once developed, two plots in decent locations in phase 9 around 5 to 8 years from now should not be less than 6 to 7 million each. This is only my humble opinion and LRE team may be able to give you a few more options. Good luck.

Mrs Baig replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 12:11 AM PST 

thanks Adnan Sahib, very helpful analysis and advice,

JJJ replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 04:00 AM PST 

I second Adnan's wordings.

Mrs Baig replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 07:36 AM PST 

Adnan Sahib, will appreciate if you kindly let know, in
DHA Lahore Phase 7 or any other phase, does one need to pay non construction charges too ? If house is not built in three years after possessing taken.

Thanks in advance,

Adnan replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 10:27 AM PST 

Dear Mrs. Baig

I have a plot in X block and I dont live in Pakistan, no plans to build anything for many years. I am not aware of any non construction charges in DHA, as a lot of my acquaintances have plots in various phases of DHA and they are not building. However, Please do confirm with either DHA or a responsible agency before you venture out. thank you

Mrs Baig replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 11:52 AM PST 

Thanks Adnan Sahib,

LRE
Team, can you please advise does DHA Lahore Charges Non Constructions Charges, if a house is not built after three years ( or any definite number of years) of taking possession from DHA ?

Will appreciate your help, this answer may help to some other members of this site too,

Khan replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 01:57 PM PST 

A 10 marla house can get you around 25 to 30 thousands per month in rent.The tenants in this area are usually trouble free.But you can never rule out the possibility of a bad tenant. It is true that the sale of one plot will not completely pay for the construction of the house on the other. Having said that, it appears to be the only option for many reasons. Firstly the cost of construction goes up due to inflation and depreciation of the rupee. With delay You only incur expenses(like non construction charges) today without any income coming your way. The situation remains same in future at all times. At that time too, the sale of one plot will not be able to pay for the construction on the other. But added disadvantage would be that then you will have to arrange for full cost of construction. But if you do it today, you will get some relief by selling the other plot. So delay in construction is never a positive decision. You can analyse your self.

Fawad replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 02:17 PM PST 

Non construction charges in dha 1, 2, 3 phases are 50k/year and it is applicable since 2009, so check ur surprising dues from dha office if somebody is not aware about it.

Care replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 06:13 PM PST 

Every one is appreciating the suggestion of ADNAN, suggesting to buy a file of DHA-Phase-9, i about 3 million and after 5 or 8 years after paying 1.5 millions (development charges, total 4.5 million) its plot will have gravity of 6 or 7 million. Look.... after 5/8 years it will not even become double. What kind of this investment is?
Awake up, there are so many other save and sound options in which your money will become even three folds in this span of time.

Adnan replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 11:16 PM PST 

Dear Care

I appreciate your comments, I do not expect anyone to spend millions buying and selling plots just because I said so. It was just an example of what Mrs. Baig can do with her existing investments. Yes you are absolutely right, one should look around before investing and there are many societies available. However I personally like DHA due to their standard of development and you must agree that DHA will not only give the best value for money but would also see the most appreciation in price. I am sure Mrs. Baig will do a good thorough evaluation of all available options. Thank you

Mrs Baig replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 08:29 AM PST 

Thanks a lot all for your help...I will do some analysis based on valuable advice, I got here and will move forward, no doubt investment in DHA is safe and Qabza group free...
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(52529)
Sunday, April 29, 2012 05:51 PM PST 

DEAR LRE TEAM
Please Tell ME the worth of gulberg block d1 plot near 93
thanks
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(52528)
Sunday, April 29, 2012 04:17 PM PST 

Aslamoalikum

I will be visiting by car for Umrah next month InshAllah


Concerned about security of my car, any secured place to park car near haram and also in Madina ?

Jazakah Allah Khair

Ibraheem Gilani replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 04:27 PM PST 

Dear Irfan!!
I think it is not relevant forum to share about car parking.It i website for property discussion in pakistan

Irfan replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 04:47 PM PST 

Yes I know but in past there have been various topics non related and LRE
team have allowed to certain extent as Jazakh Allah and hopefully they will get reward for that, so Dear Gilani, if you know the answer I can appericate the input!!

Saifi.Mughal replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 04:55 PM PST 

MR. Irfan,

almost 45% pilgrims every week came by their cars and rest of the 55% came by buses, the Parking is not a problem except from Hajj and Umrah days, so why are you worried its not a big deal, i always traveled from Al-Khobar to Madinah and Maccah on my own car and Al-Hamdulillah never experienced any thing bad. so its upto you how you want to travel by bus or by car or by plane its upto you....

Have a safe trip

JJJ replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 06:10 PM PST 

I have just came back form Umrah, Parking very near to Haram in Makka is very expensive 25 Rayal per hour, We use to park our car at 5 minutes drive away from harm (on raod free) and take a taxi which cost 2/3 Rayal and come to Haram. In Madian in Masjid Nabwi there is hugh parking available underground at 1 Rayal per hour and out side Haram in Madina you can park anywhere free or outside hotel as well and there is no security issue.

Regards

Irfan replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 07:28 PM PST 

Thank you brothers for feedback,

I am bit concerned becuase my friend had his drive side window broken and some belongins gone, the car was parked near to Haram Shareef, and car I will be taking will be value more than 200 K Riyals, as it is brand new 4 x 4 so just wanted to be safe than sorry :)

zaheer replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 07:42 PM PST 

Sir if u r so concern abt ur car better sale it and get cheaper one.Otherwise in Makkah hundreds of that kind of cars are standing every where.

jk replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 08:14 PM PST 

There is no threat to the cars, if parked in allocated area. These days it is NOT rush days therefore should not be an issue in Makkah as well as in Madina Munawara. Parking plazas are ideal but why to pay if free of charge areas are aailble.

Good Luck and remember in prayer Pakistan / people of Pakistan and Muslim ummah in general and also for CMY Bhai in perticular
I hope he is fine health and recovered well.

Irfan replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 09:19 PM PST 

Thank you all, will remember in prayers :)

Khan replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 09:24 PM PST 

You can park in a public parking near Haram (Kudai Parking). Take a taxi or Bus to haram 5 min drive. I have done it couple of time with no issues.
Madina , Parking is available easily if you are not going there during high season i.e Hajj or Ramadan.

Salman replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 06:11 PM PST 

Dear Irfan,

have faith in Allah when you park your car.

Ali Doha replied on Tuesday, May 1, 2012 10:30 PM PST 

Car Parking near Haram Shareef 1 KM away no any problem. We visited last month by road. We reside at Ajayan Amar 500 meter away from Library . Parking was available with our Hotel on streets. When you reach near Haram Park the Car approximate 1 Km way at plces where no sing board for Non Parking Area , take a taxi and perform Umra. After performing Umra search Hotel and permanent Car Parking. Due to vast dismantling near to to Haram, getting nearest Accommodation is little difficult. Good luck and have nice journey. As Mr, Khan also described almost same.
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(52526)
Sunday, April 29, 2012 02:04 PM PST 
Bahria Orchard - Low Cost Scheme

In attached advertisement, Bahria's management has mentioned about the fast speed of development in Bahria Orchard - Low Cost scheme. Can any one confirm it???

:h :h :h

shak replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 08:48 PM PST 

yes Mr.khan , Balloting is due shortly so its true :)
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(52525)
Sunday, April 29, 2012 07:31 AM PST 

What are good and legitition /legal issue free blocks for 10 Marla in LDA Ave 1 and price, I am intersted to buy 10M plot and how can I make a transaction safe in buying please guide.
Thanks,

HR replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:31 PM PST 

H Block
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(52523)
Sunday, April 29, 2012 01:04 AM PST 

I am looking for 5 or 8 Marla plot in Sui Gas society phase 1, can someone give idea what is the price for 5 or 8 Marla plot there and is it good society? and if someone know for 10M as well please provide me info what is rate.

if someone is intersted to sale plot let me know.

Thanks,

SI replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 01:35 AM PST 

there are 1 & 2 kanals plots only, may be some small plots due to cutting
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(52522)
Saturday, April 28, 2012 09:52 PM PST 

dear lre team

CAN ANYONE SUGGEST THE FUTURE OF PHASE 8 PRICES.
DON,T YOU THINK THAT A PRICE CORRECTION OF 10-15 LAC IS EXPECTED.
ALSO PLEASE EVALUATE PHASE 7 AND ITS FUTURE

price replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 04:50 AM PST 

phas7 & 8 will get a rise of 5-7 and 10-12 lacs respectively by next week and it will stay till eid .

Kmc replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 03:41 PM PST 

Phase 8 is already heavily overpriced,What is difference between w and t Blocks of phase 8 with b, g,j blocks of phase 6.lookat
prices which are almosT same despite the fact that phase 6 is almost 10 years ahead in development and habitation - exaggerated prices of phase 8, dealers making fool of people to give impression of location. Phase 6 is far better and ehsthetically developed

price replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 08:17 PM PST 

KMC
jealousy is the most naked form of appreciation.

dont be upset if u dont have plot in phase 8 n phase 8 is well priced -its not overpriced
its the diamond of
DHA Lahore

Ali Abbas replied on Sunday, April 29, 2012 08:26 PM PST 

very right mr KMC. phase 8 is over priced phase 6
location is same as of
some blocks of phase 8. phase 6 should be prefffered as it will take almost 5 years from now to have some population in phase 8

Rashid replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 08:33 PM PST 

understood- phase 8 has great cushion.

no comparison of phase 8
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(52521)
Saturday, April 28, 2012 08:19 PM PST 
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(52520)
Saturday, April 28, 2012 07:40 PM PST 
DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Plots For Sale

DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Near Plot No. 871 Block C @ 22.50 Lacs (5 Marla)

DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Near Plot No. 466 Block A @ 25.00 Lacs (5 Marla)

DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Near Plot No. 1085 Block B @ 26.00 Lacs (5 Marla)

DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Near Plot No. 1235 Block C @ 32.00 Lacs (8 Marla),80 ft road.

DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Near Plot No. 882 Block C @ 22.75 Lacs (5 Marla)

DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Near Plot No. 660 Block D @ 22.50 Lacs (5 Marla),Corner

DHA Town Lahore Phase 9 Near Plot No. 187 Block D @ 45.00 Lacs,Corner,Installments (10 Marla)

:forsale: :forsale: :forsale:


Fawad.LahoreRealEstate@Gmail.Com
Phone:0302-4489001

TO replied on Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:24 PM PST 

Hi Mr. Fawad,

I am intersted in 8 Marla plot, can you please let me know how much I have to pay to seller and to DHA in installment, and tranfer fee etc, please provide me full detials.

Mian Fawad Ahmad replied on Monday, April 30, 2012 02:49 PM PST 

Hi TO,
These 8 Marla plots Available On Cash Payment,you will pay total decided amount to seller.Total
Transfer Fee Rs54850/-

For More Detail Please Contact Us OR eMAIL.
Mian Fawad Ahmad
0302-4489001
Fawad.LahoreRealEstate@Gmail.com
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