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   imran
Thursday, March 5, 2009 03:00 AM PST 
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House for sale
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islamabad
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A brand new house for sale in Bahrain town Rawalpindi ,Ideal location ,unique in nature, you will not find location like this in BT, seeing is believing .
Zamir replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 01:35 PM PST 

plz give details of the accomodation there in, if convenient give photos of inside house ie bed rooms, baths n kitchen photos
replied on Sunday, March 8, 2009 01:29 PM PST 

send your Email, thanks
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   .
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:46 PM PST 
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   Momin (UK)
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:56 PM PST 
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Garbage‏
One day I hopped in a taxi and we took off for the airport. We were driving in the right lane when suddenly a black car jumped out of a parking space right in front of us. My taxi driver slammed on his brakes, skidded, and missed the other car by just inches! The driver of the other car whipped his head around and started yelling at us. My taxi driver just smiled and waved at the guy. And I mean he was really friendly. So I asked, "Why did you just do that? This guy almost ruined your car and sent us to the hospital!" This is when my taxi driver taught me what I now call, "The Law of the Garbage Truck."
He explained that many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they need a place to dump it and sometimes they'll dump it on you. Don't take it personally.
Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on. Don't take their garbage and spread it to other people at work, at home, or on the streets.
The bottom line is that successful people do not let garbage trucks take over their day. Life's too short to wake up in the morning with regrets, so...Love the people who treat you right. Pray for the ones who don't.
Life is ten percent what you make it and ninety percent how you take it!

Have a garbage-free day!
Hamid,Toronto replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:21 PM PST 

Nice! Very well said Momin Bhai
Everybody on this forum have a garbage free day!
Azher syed, Manchester replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:33 PM PST 

Positive thinking Mr. Momin, thanx 4 sharing.
Ali11 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 11:57 PM PST 

Momin (UK)

tons of thanks for sharing.
Momin (UK) replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:31 AM PST 

The Punjabi Story of Valentine's Day‏!

The Punjabi Story of Valentine's Day. In spite of what you have been told
by everyone, the truth is that Valentine's Day originated hundreds of years
ago, in India, and to top it all, in Punjab!!

It is a well known fact that Punjabi men continually mistreat and disrespect
their wives. One fine day, it happened to be the 14th day of February, one brave
Punjaban, having had enough "torture" by her husband, finally chose to
rebel by beating him up with a Velan (rolling pin).

Yes....the same Velan which she used daily, to make chapattis for him....only
this time, instead of the dough, it was the husband who was flattened. This was
a momentous occasion for all Punjabi women and a revolt soon spread, like wild
fire, with thousands of housewives beating up their husbands with the
Velan.

There was an outburst of moaning "chapatti-ed" husbands all over
Jallandhar and Chandigarh. The Punjabi men-folk quickly learnt their lesson and
started to behave more respectfully with their wives.

Thereafter, on 14th February, every year, the womenfolk of Punjab would beat up
their husbands, to commemorate that eventful day. The wives having the
satisfaction of beating up their husbands with the Velan and the men having the
supreme joy of submitting to the will of the women they loved. Soon the Punjabi
men realized that in order to avoid this ordeal they need to present gifts to
their wives....they brought flowers and sweetmeats. Hence the tradition began.

As Punjab fell under the influence of Western culture, that day was called
'Velan time' day. The ritual soon spread to Britain
and many other
Western countries, specifically, the catch words 'Velan time!'. Of
course in their foreign tongues, it was first pronounced to 'Velantime'
and then to 'Valentine'. And thereafter, 14th of February, came to be
known as Valentine's Day !!
Ali11 replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 03:00 AM PST 

lol ......
Waqar Latif replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:23 PM PST 

Nice one Momin.. & Salute to that Taxi Driver.
JI replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 02:35 PM PST 

Well said. Let us all pray we do not become garbage truck, but sometimes I have a feeling i unload my feeling on unrelated people.

This reminds me turkish story of a man who mudered a bus driver for 50cents. The author then goes back to that person's miserable day all day having lost a lot of money and other things and truck was getting full. In the evening it needed only 50cents dispute and sadely truck was unloaded.

regards
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   abid
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:52 PM PST 
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want wherehouse for rentail
Wanted lahore multan road or koylakhpat
hello all

we need some locations in kotlakhpath or multan road area requaird 30000 sqf minimam requaird for wherehouse in cargo porpuse.




muhammad abid
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   Amjad
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:32 PM PST 
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Real face of Nawaz Sharif
[Express Epaper ()] saw this article on express epaper www.express.com.pk and they thought you would find it interesting you can find it at http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/Article.aspx?newsID=&Date=20090304&Issue= NP_LHE [Express Epaper ()] also sent this message: Real face of Nawaz Sharif
Ali11 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:53 PM PST 

they are all the same. everyone is fighting his personal fight. Nawaz don't like hameed dogar/ musharraf. zardari don;t like iftikhar chowdary. Nawaz should have respected the mandate given to PPP. It was not right to join long march when you are in government in punjab and in opposition in the capital. Nawaz actually wants election, that's why he has played this game.
Amjad replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:07 PM PST 

This is the today column written by Assadullah Ghalib appeared in Daily Express. I am sorry i could not paste it, but it is very intresting and i think everyone should read to know the real face of our politicians and journalists.
Patriot replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:48 PM PST 

The columist has put one side story and he is not going to root cause why he is doing this? Nawaz is right and he has the right to do as every Pakistani looks that PK is not heading towards the right direction and there is need of good leadership. As netral person I dont see anyone leading the nation except NS.

He was thrown out, he was robbed, SC judge Iftikhar was thrown out, judges have been sold ..............from wheting all there justice to come. You want to hand over the power to a civil dictator ZARDARI OR GADARI to do anything with nation. He is smart man putting rights for him and doesnt want check on him. Placing his people. He is characterless person. You all want him to secure and tommorrow he will sell Pakistan that all of us even wont come to know.

Is he right choice for PK.........???????/ Every body ash himself/herself. He has full capability to sell Pakistan. He has never been loyal to his country at all. Let have check and balance and let someone else to come other than Zadari.

There is a need of revolution which should come for betterment even we have to sacrifise.
God Knows bette replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:00 PM PST 

Who is the owner of Express.
Express is spokesman of PPP. They always publish Anti PML (N)reports.
These days even Khasnood Khan is in PPP camp and hosting a program on PTV. I think the "envelopes" are getting heavy these days.
Anwar replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:08 PM PST 

zardari is badnaam chor and nawaz sharif is bud chor so it is old saying that bud se badnaam bura. Every politician and even general is working on their own agenda. They do not sincere and honest wid Pakistan. Even we people r also not loyal and true wid our country. Every one has his/her own interest. there will be not revolution happen until we become sincere Pakistani
MH replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:16 PM PST 

Dear Amjad,
Link is not working.Please repost.
NAFEES GADEZI LAHORE replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 02:22 AM PST 

Both groups,Nawaz-League and Zardari-PPP have played the goverment game twice.Both tried their best and robbed every valuable things and money in Pakistan and transferred to their accounts in USA and Europe.Both groups totally crushed Constitution,law and public.
Both groups are top criminals and must be hanged several times in front of Minar-e-Pakistan Lahore.
asim replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 06:07 AM PST 

Jo bhi ho get ready for martial law and now i fully support lawyers to do this job Done and i am going in the long March. Just sick of PPP
BRN replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 09:01 AM PST 

I'll join you in the long march @ Asim..
Ali11 replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 02:52 PM PST 

I never liked PPP, zardari. & am ashamed to be with Nawaz as he is for his personal cause. Stupidist guy in Pakistan. I hate lawyers too as they changed the whole political scenario in Pakistan and done a lot of damage to developing Pakistan in the era of Musharraf. Since that Pakistan is never able to recover.

Although i don't like this government, still i believe going against this government will eventually harm Pakistan and our enemies will take advantage of it, avoid this Long March for the sake of Pakistan.

Long Live Pakistan
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   Kashif
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 06:52 PM PST 
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Lahore
Safari Villa
5.33M
40'
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02BR,single story & ready to move
contact
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   NFC Lahore Phase 2
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 05:26 PM PST 
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NFC Lahore Phase 2 development work started
NFC Lahore Phase 2 development work started. Some equipment have started to arrive.
Ahmad replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:36 PM PST 

Nice if it is a developing progress then it will take next 10 years to develop NFC
kharal replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 01:30 PM PST 

Lets hope/pray, development may speed up soon
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   NFC Lahore Phase 2
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 05:18 PM PST 
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NFC Lahore Phase 2 development work started
NFC Lahore Phase 2 development work started. Some equipment have started to arrive.

Development contrarctor have developed Izmir in Lahore in past.
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   LRE Rates Update
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 05:14 PM PST 
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DHA Lahore Plots File Prices Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse
<<<<< Developent work have been started in NFC Lahore Phase 2.

Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse Mar 04, PM

DHA Lahore Files Prices:

DHA Lahore Phase 5 M Block Allocation File 1 Kanal seller at 30.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension Allocation File: Buyer(s) at 24.15 Sellers(s) at 24.25 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 35.00 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 21.00 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 33.65 Seller(s) at 33.75 Lacs

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation TRANSFER file Buyer(s) at 27.80 Seller(s) at 27.90 Please note OPEN files are priced lower.

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 19.90 Seller(s)at 20.00 Lacs.

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 14.20 Seller(s) at 14.25


DHA Valley Islamabad open files 5 marla one paid sells at loss of =23,000 TO 25,000

DHA Valley Islamabad open files 8 marla one paid sells at loss of =14,000 TO 16,000

DHA Islamabad Phase 2 extension is at about 11 Lacs for lowest priced blocks.



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   DHA Lahore Phase 6
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:47 PM PST 
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DHA Lahore Phase 6 K and G block possession announced
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Congratulation to friends holding plots in K and G blocks of DHA Lahore Phase 6. DHA have announced possession for house constructions in K and G block from Mar 5th 2009.

Please note these few plots in DHA Lahore Phase 6 G block will not have possession yet due to small land takeover issue. Plots

I also want to congratulate plot holders in J and H block. Three new houses are started in K and 2 new houses are started in H block. Please note a block allready have nearly 5 house under construction. B block have 20+ houses under construction in it. There are house under construction in C and D blocks too. Construction speed have picked up many folds in DHA 6 recently after Broadway opening.

:pkf
Ch Mujahid Yasin ( CMY )
Lahore Real Estate

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   .
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:49 PM PST 
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Gulberg
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   PROGRESS
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:26 PM PST 
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A Name
:pkf

Dear Members,

Do you agree to call Liberty Chowk as SHAHEED CHOWK.

A tribute to our SHAHEED BRAVE PLICEMEN....

(no negative remarks please, show only unity)
Ali11 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:46 PM PST 

second that. good suggestion.
Q replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:03 PM PST 

I would suggest to select a name where Sri Lanka is also referrenced as they really showed solidarity with us by touring when nobody was interested
Naveed Yaseen replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:30 PM PST 

Its good we didn’t have to rename Qaddafi Stadium to Muralitharan Memorial Stadium.
Nawaz Sharif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:33 PM PST 

How about Baynazir shaheed chowk?
Zard Ari replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:49 PM PST 

Nice advise Mr.Sharif
Rahim Bannu replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 06:51 PM PST 

Should be named as " BAHADUR CHOWK " due to bravery shown by our police and bravery shown by Sri Lankan team by coming to Pakistan and their bravery after the incidence by saying " they will come again once the situation gets stabilise in Pakistan
Jan Pakistan replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:12 PM PST 

I second this name suggested by our brother from Bannu and i would like to add one thing more and that is , the names of our Brave Police Shaheeds and the names of Sri Lankan team may be engraved on BAHADUR CHOWK to ack the bravery of our Shaheeds and Sri Lankan Squad
yesss replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:54 PM PST 

YESSSSSSSSS!!
Great idea !!

But if the slaughters continue, every street in Pakistan will have to be re-named !!
Safwan Khan. replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:05 PM PST 

We are good at renaming places :)
not a good idea at all. Now no foreigner would come to Pakistan, site seeing, sports, business; you name it. I know you all would say who cares :) and this is the sign of arrogance and ignorance.
Jawad replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:09 PM PST 

I think we should name it "Tayseer chowk"
The Governor Raj ignored CID report. How long we will keep on naming different places. We need to improve security and just naming will not solve our problems.
Hamid,Toronto replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:25 PM PST 

I think its greate idea. We should offer some reward to Bus driver who save the life of Linkan Cricketer.
Ordianry replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 06:40 AM PST 

Mr progress, instead of naimng the places, as a nation we need to look why this is happening, how long we will keep on naming the places, this is sheer stupidity. Name the place after an incident, forget about it and carry on with your life. What a bunch of idiots we are as a nation.
FM replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 11:01 AM PST 

Great sacrifice was given by police for protecting Sri Lankan team however I feel that the Liberty Chok should be renamed as SRI LANKA SQUARE.
eh replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 01:00 PM PST 

Lierty Chowk is the right name, as nothing is dear to us than Liberty. Shaeeds( Martyres) are for Pakistan to protect our Liberty.

I would differ with "Nawaz Sharif" on his suggested name as it should be "Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto NRO Shaheed".

What the hell is goin on, people are trying to steal everything for their gains. All Government funded schemes are named for their political agendas, like Benazir Income support fund. If PPP, his supporters and Zardari(now 100%) are so sincere to her, let them bring all her stolen wealth to Pakistan for this program, then I would be the first who will contribute to this and it will breally bring her good name and show their sympathy to the Poor People of Pakistan. These cheap pathetic's would never becom humans.

For me Zulifqar Ali Bhutto was the only political leader in Pakistan to embrass shahadat knowingly that he will be killed but never compromised, Benazir Bhutto become a leader because she was his daughter and can never be compared with him as she does not posess the wisdom what ZABhutto had. But all the PPP is ignoring this fact and trying to boost Benazir Bhutto for the continuity of Zardari Kingdom.

See how pathetically and shamefully they changed the name of Bilawal Bhutto. Is there any end to the lust of power.
Waqar Latif replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 03:34 PM PST 

Kuch dino baad ek or new cheez annay walli hey "BB Shaheed Pajama" (JK)

@Topic

No need to change the name..
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   shoaib shahid
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:14 PM PST 
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1-kanal plot for sale
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sui-gas
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4 minutes drive from d-h-a, phase 4 &5.excellent location
:sh:
unknown replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:08 PM PST 

there is nothoght,that no one of the politician is honest sincere ,loyal with the country,but i urge this currennt administration is the worst,greedy,and totaly unprofessional,have taken power to enjoy only.


i personally hope with IMRAN KHAN only , we should give him a chance to serve the nation...let see what happen.,,,,,,
unknown replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:09 PM PST 

there is nothoght,that no one of the politician is honest sincere ,loyal with the country,but i urge this currennt administration is the worst,greedy,and totaly unprofessional,have taken power to enjoy only.


i personally hope with IMRAN KHAN only , we should give him a chance to serve the nation...let see what happen.,,,,,,
Expat replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:43 PM PST 

Please, take care when you vote against Zardari clan than don't divide your vote, as it happen during the 2007 elections. Votes of PML were divided among Nawaz Muslim league and Quaid.i.Azam Muslim league.
As far I see Quaid.i.Azam Muslim league is in better hands and they are most civilzed and sensible among all the political parties. They have proven themself as more principle oriented than Nawaz Muslim league as they call themself.
Imran Khan does not make any sense when he talk in support of corrupt iftikhar ch. He should show some wisdom by distancing it from foreign financed game plan.
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   yesss
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:04 AM PST 
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They were just too darn busy to provide security
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News reports are suggesting the PPP used all their time and attention to counter any attempts by the Sharif brothers, and to minimize attendance for the long march, that little time and attention was left to protect the Sri Lankan players or any of us.

Thank alot PPP !!!!!!!!!!!!
yesss replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:30 AM PST 

Brilliant article by Tariq Ali in today's uk Guardian.
Guardian.co.uk It is a MUST-READ

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/03/pakistan-srilanka
UNKNOWN replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 02:37 PM PST 

IF WE NEED OUR COUNTRY BE SAFE,STABLE,,,GET RID OF THIS EVER MOST CRUPT ADMINISTRATION(ZARDARI)WHO TOOK SHORTCUTT AND BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF PAKISTAN....ZARDARI IS REGISTERED CRUPT PERSON,.EVERY BODY KNOW HIM,BUT INSPITE OF THIS HE IS THE PRESIDENT.VERY SHAME,,,,


EVEN YESTERDAY I WATCHED THE PROGRAME "CAPITAL TALK" THE MINISTER FROM PPP WAS NOT READY TO ACCEPT URGLEDY THEIR MISTAKE,AND WAS TRYONG TO PROTECT SALMAN TASEER...

ALL CURRENT POLITICIANS ARE STEREOTYPE,THEY HAVE LEARNED ONLY ONE THING TO SAY YES,IN FAVOUR OF THEIR PARTY.

GOD BLESS PAKISTAN.
An ordinary Pakistani replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 02:59 PM PST 

Would any one stop this BLAME GAME or I should say this is in our blood now :o(....put your hand on your heart and let me know the name of the politician who is sincere to pakistan with all his heart. We all have a habit of cheating others but atleast stop cheating to yourself and be honest.
a syed replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:16 PM PST 

Pakistan's drift into the hands of extremists
The intention of the attack on Sri Lanka's cricket team was to send a clear message to Washington: Pakistan is ungovernable
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o Tariq Ali
o guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 3 March GMT
o Article history
The appalling terrorist attack on the Sri Lankan cricketers in Pakistan had one aim: to demonstrate to Washington that the country is ungovernable. This is the first time that cricketers have been targeted in a land where the sport is akin to religion. It marks the death of international cricket in Pakistan for the indefinite future, but not just that, which is bad enough. The country's future is looking more and more precarious. We do not know which particular group carried out this attack, but its identity is hardly relevant. The fact is that it took place at a time when three interrelated events had angered a large bulk of the country and provided succour to extremist groups and their patrons.
The first is undoubtedly the foolish decision by Washington (backed by Britain) to send more troops to Afghanistan, which has now united all those resisting them in that country and the North-West Frontier province of Pakistan. Instead of searching for a viable exit strategy, Obama has gone for a surge. On several occasions, I have warned that escalating the war in Afghanistan could seriously destabilise Pakistan and its army.
Second, Senator Dianne Feinstein's revelation that the US drones being
used to target "militants" and "terrorist havens" inside Pakistan were, in fact, being despatched by the US from military and air-force bases inside Pakistan (obviously, with the approval of the Pakistani military and civilian leaders) created mayhem in the country. The shock and dismay should not be underestimated. Half-hearted government denials further fanned the flames. Since many in the country regard Zardari and his cronies running the country as US drones, the anger was multiplied.
Domestically, the country is a mess. The People's party has learnt and forgotten nothing. Corruption is rife and stories circulate linking the money being paid by bankers directly to the president's house. Add to this Zardari's refusal to honour an election pledge restoring an independent judiciary, and his decision to manipulate tame judges to disqualify his opponents has not gone down well. The controversy was aggravated by Zardari's move to dismiss the elected government in the country's most populous and strategically important province, the Punjab (capital: Lahore), and impose direct rule, after its chief minister apparently refused to accept a bribe in the shape of a lucrative business deal in return for abandoning the fight to restore the chief justice fired by the military leader over a year ago.
The failures of this government and its inability to defend the country's interests or its population from drones or terrorist attacks are paving the way for the return of the army to power as a way of avoiding a serious split within its own ranks. All that is awaited is a green light from the US embassy in Islamabad. Not that this would solve anything, but it might create the illusion of stability for a few months. It's no good Pakistani politicians mumbling that this is "our Mumbai". The fact is that, over the last year, the Zardari government has done a great deal for itself and its clients, but nothing for the people or the country. The more Pakistan drifts, the more opportunities offer themselves to the extremists.
yesss replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:16 PM PST 

Another must-read from UAE press:

http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Pakistan/10291440.html
yesss replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:22 PM PST 

Actual pictures of Drone aircraft parked in Pakistan:

http://teeth.com.pk/blog/2009/02/18/drones-parked-in-pakistan#more-4773
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   FAITHFUL
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:24 AM PST 
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PAKISTAN????????????????
WELCOM TO PAKISTAN

OR
GOODBYE PAKISTAN
????????????????????????????????????
WHO WE ARE
WAT WE DOING
R WE HUMANS?
R WE MUSLIM?
R WE PAKISTANI?
R WE A FATHER/BROTHER/SON??????

DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF OURSELVES
DO WE KNOW OUR REALITY
DO WE KNOE OUR RESPONISIBLITIES
DO WE HAVE ANY RESPECT
DO WE OWE ANY RESPECT
DO WE HAVE ANY EGO


NO

we r only

A CROWD OF

SELFISH
SENSELESS
GREEDY



ZINDA LASHAIN
Khan replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:14 AM PST 

would you please get this on banner and we put this all over the country? I'll take part of tab for printing. You are very right or may be handful of zinda lashain spoiling the image! Pakistan needs a revolution, where atleast couple a million [some of them hand picked ppl] would have to give life for the future of the country, otherwise some external force would come and do the same.
pak independence replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:02 AM PST 

Du'aa (Prayer) -- A nazm for Pakistan's Independence Day, 1967

aayeh hath uthein hum bhi
hum jinhein rusm-e du'aa yaad nahin
hum jinhein soz-e muhabat ke siwa
koi buth, koi khuda yaad nahin

aayeh urz guzarein keh nigar-e hustee
zehar-e imroz mein shirenya furda bhar de
wo jinhein taab-e garaan bary-a iyaam nahin
un ki pulkoon peh shaub-e roz ko hulka ker de

jin ki aankhoon ko roz-e subh ka yaara bhi nahin
un ki raatoon mein koi shuma munawar ker de
jin ke kadumoon ko kisi reh ka sahara bhi nahin
un nazroon peh koi raah ujagar ker de

jin ka deeN pariw-e kizb-o riya hai un ko
himet-e kufr mile, jurat-e tehqiq mile
jin ke sir muntazar-e tegh-e jafa hein un ko
dust-e qatil ko jatuk deenay ki taufiq mile

ishq ka sir-e nihaaN jaan tapaaN hai jis se
aaj iqrar karein aur tapish mit jaa'e
hurf-e haq dil mein khatakta hai jo kante ki turhaaN
aaj izhar karein aur khalish mit jaa'e
Manthar replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:34 AM PST 

Zardari is UNABLE to protect the Pakistani population from drone attack and terrorist attacks. So, what good is he ??
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   CHACHA
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:33 AM PST 
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WE NEED MARTIAL LAW
In order to improve the economy of Pakistan , we need martial law , very ruthless president is required, who should finish the bad guys in the madrassas, without any mercy.
MH replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:51 AM PST 

It was the Martial law and some politions (Zia Bakiat) who created and supported,Politically,these people.
Zinda bad Zia-Ul-haq and his Bakiat for creating these evils.
Fundamentalism was spread purposely in the society to gain political benefits without thinking what will happen afterward with the sciety itself.
EU replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:21 AM PST 

Military taking over does not mean martial law.
There had been civil martial law administrators in Pakistan's history.
Civilian rules have been more dictatorial as compare to military rules.
I remember from last perpetual civil rules of BB and Sharif that they replaced Cheif justices as they wished, they appointed army rules as suits them most and civil rights remained at lowest.
Here we must not confuse freedom with taking law into self hands.
People of Pakistan must understand that so called democracy of Pakistan never represent the majority. Elections in Pakistan are mostly engineered.
EU replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:53 AM PST 

Dear Rehmat Ali,
There is a long list of projects which have been ruined and investors have been sent packing.
Kalabagh dam is same, last govt. organised investors and present govt. sent them packing.
You talk about corruption, Sharif family was convicted before Musharraf's rule and present day PPP says they have never implicted Sharif family.

31 references against Nawaz Sharif under his 1997 Ehtesab Act, some are:
Income tax evasion;
Wealth tax evasion;
Concealment of facts to evade property tax;
Opening false acounts;
Whitening of black money by amending laws;
Whitening of money through FEBCs;
Illegal appointments in PIA;
Abbotabad land scam;
Import of BMW cars in violation of laws;
Taking loans without fulfilling the legal requirements;
Concealment of property in the US;
Illegal appointments in the FIA;
US wheat purchase scam;
Murree land scam;
Irregular promotions in the FIA;
Forcing passports and money laundering;
Concealment of helicopter when filing assets;
Favourable treatment to Kohinoor Energy Ltd causing a Rs.45 crore loss;
Unlawful cash finance facility given to Brothers Sugar Mills;
Bribe offered to ANP Senator Qazi Mohammed Anwer;
Illegally appointing the chairman, CBR;
Causing a Rs.35 billion loss by writing off/rescheduling loans;
Relaxing import duty and amending laws to import luxury cars;
Utilizing funds from the national exchequer to bribe Maulana Sattar Niazi;
Plundering Rs.200 million from Jahez and Baitul Mal funds;
Making 130 political appointments in federal departments;
Relaxing export duty and rebate to transport sugar to India;
Withdrawal of case against Senator Islamuddin Shaikh

SOURCE: DAWN April 25, 1999, Karachi
Ali3 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 05:45 AM PST 

There is nothing wrong with madrassa students. It's the ELITES who have grabbed the entire resources of the nation and are spreading propaganda against the madressas to misguide and mislead the people to the wrong direction.
BRN replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:33 AM PST 

Absolutely right @ Ali3. It's all our high class bullshit. It's not a common man who are wrong, it's Musharaf who just closed eye and support US in every mean. Look at Iran, they are also in neighbor of Afghanistan, same as Uzbekistan or others. they don't have such problems like we have, why????? Did we ever think why it's only Pakistan? Coz Americans kills millions of Afghans via flying from Pakistan, that's the reality and we have to face it now.

There is just one way to stop these incidents, say bye to USA..!!!! This is the only choice we have..... otherwise we will be like Afghanistan soon... Remember these words!!!! May Allah give Hidaya to our leaders..
ADAT DALO replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:08 PM PST 

Pechalay 60 sal say MANAFKOOON KAY SATH REHA REHAY HOO OR AB BEE NAI SAMJAY.

ADAT DALO MANAFAKOOON KAY SATH REHANAY KEE.

YA asahab kahaf (&#1575;&#1589;&#1581;&#1575;&#1576; &#1603;&#1607;&#1601;) kee terah ALLAH KEE PANA LAY LOOO OR SHAID HUM GHANA GAROOON KO BEE KOI GHAR MIL JAY
Ali3 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:30 PM PST 

Mrs. R.S.: In continuation of my earlier reply to your post, here's a fresh link from today's news.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5826724.ece

All over the world hoarders are considered to be the worst people of society, worse than prostitutes. Only in Pakistan hoarders are VIP's, given special attention by government, Musharraf used to invite all hoarders and mafia's openly to Pakistan and say in his overseas speeches: "Nowhere win the world you will get so much profit as in Pakistan", and all at the expense of my awam whom i have kept at gunpoint so that they can keep polishing my floors with their nose.

Faisal Naseer
lady hawk replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 06:51 PM PST 

very sad moments, few months back i wrote that people will start pulling their own hairs,that what have they done, it was a great mistake voteing PPP as long as we knew that The Mr.100% the most corrupt person has taken over PPP, we atleast now open our eyes youth should come forward and plsssssssssssssssssss take over the charge save our nation, save our generations. its high time now facing bullshits SAVE OUR NATION
Pakistani replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:39 PM PST 

The stupit & foolish EU
Azher Syed, Manchester replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:29 PM PST 

Why blame madrassa? Has any agency built Primary, Nusery, or kinder Gartens, High Schools, or GCSE level or such fascilities where kids could start their schooling. None of us can answer these questions nor the establishment has done concrete work in this regard. We have failed to provide them ( I mean those people living in NWFP, Northern areas, Waziristan, Swat or where ever we are blaming the fault lies; We have been busy in gaining absolute power when ever we get a chance to win few seats here and there, then comes the horse trading, then we resort to Governor raj, we are happy to slaughter our own people to make the rest of the World happy in a show of solidirity against the Fake wars waged by others. How quickly we get carried away with the propaganda war against our intersts? this is not some thing hidden, we are quick each and every thing on islam, we don't see the that this is wrong doing on the part of some one, we should not blame Islam. If a army officer voilates the constitution, does it mean it is the fault of the army, no no it is the fault of the person, he should be held responsible for it. Let us broaden our vision and thinking.
mano replied on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 03:46 PM PST 

we need martial law...
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   Wakas
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 02:11 AM PST 
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   Ashraf
Wednesday, March 4, 2009 01:55 AM PST 
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Appeal to all Pakstani brothers
This new wave of attack in Lahore shows our enemies whos aim is to destablize Pakistan are becoming weeker every day and now had came out to do act. I appeal to all feloow brothers who visit these sites to kindly show the following;
1) Unity 2) Stop abusing each others 3) Support our Govt (good or bad) .4) support our Police and Army.
5) Give a message to our enemies that we will not accept the defeat.6)Find the enemies which are from our community .7) stop blame games.
Pakistan Zindabad and Zindabad.Defeat for our enemies.
Ali3 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 02:56 AM PST 

Ashraf, you are misleading the people. You are saying totally illogical things. Maybe you should appeal to our beloved Prophet (PBUH) that his sacrifice of Karballa was wasted, rhat Hazrat Imam Hussain (AS) should have supported yazid (good or bad) and his army and his police.

Remember, Pakistan is not something out of Quran! This whole world, whole planet is created by God! Islam is not only inside the mosque. I think Islam starts the moment you step out of the mosque!
Concerned replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:19 AM PST 

Ali3!

What is wrong with what Ashraf is appealing for? Please dont bring Mullah-ism into this discussion. All what we are suffering from today is caused by these uneducated maulvis/terrorists.

Think with your head and not ......
chacha replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:24 AM PST 

I think we should keep religion out of this ... close the madrassas or check them extensively.
Ali11 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:27 AM PST 

@ Ali3

Ashraf is trying to say that "united we stand, divided we fall" & he is absolutely right. Its time, we stand together and i am sure that everyone has the same feeling.

Also agree with you Pakistan is not something out of Quran, I believe, forces who are trying to destablize Pakistan will suffer from its destability and if Pakistan's future is dark, so is our neighbors'.

May Allah forgive us and help us to act rightly and wisely.


Long Live Pakistan
Aamir replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:33 AM PST 

I agree with you.

1. I would request the visitors of this site try to understand the fact that dynamics of Terrorists/Guerrilla attack are such that only a little or no defence is available to against these tactics prevent the occurrence, no matter how qualitative or quantitative force is applied to. Therefore, bashing the security forces of Pakistan is not appropriate in larger interest of the country, especially on websites

2. I agree with many of you that there were security lapses but then if there had not been any,even then it was nearly impossible to prevent the occurrence, hence leading to the same conclusion, security lapses.

3. Therefore try to do as advised by Mr.Ashraf, instead of abusing and bashing.
yessss replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:35 AM PST 

CLOSE THE MADASSAS !!!!!!
CLOSE THE MADASSAS !!!!!!

Fantatic religious teachings, be they christian, muslim, or jewish, are dangerous !!!!!!!!!!!
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:20 PM PST 

@Ashraf

1) Unity ----- Ok this is required
2) 2) Stop abusing each others ----- No one is abusing each other but the government only
3) Support our Govt (good or bad) ----- I thought in deomcracy when someone goes wrong the people should correct him, also i can't support a proven hypocrite, u can its ur choice to have him. Also why should we support the government? did they support the students, other professionals, industrialists, farmers, or any poor? if they are not supporting us then why the hell we support them? infact we should kick this kabari's ass ASAP. & Rehman Malik should resign like indian defense minister did, but NOOO hypocrite is still on the seat.
4) support our Police and Army ----- yeah right, i guess u haven't seen how claimly those attackers left out of the scene while walking.. If they can't do what they are ment for then why the hell we support them? we all know how exactly those big names came into action (IG, SSP, etc) who don't provide training to the junior staff, yet let them die when these types of attacks happen
5) Give a message to our enemies that we will not accept the defeat.
----- don't worry when ever the moment comes all pakistani gets unitied against our enemies It is proven fact.
6)Find the enemies which are from our community . ---- yeah right, we all know where are our enemies (which is GOVERNMENT, Democracy, India, CIA, Masout, & their agents (BLA, TTP, MQM)etc)
7) stop blame game ---- 1st learn the difference between blame game & criticism, if u can't then stop behaving like this...
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:25 PM PST 

@yess

how many time u actually went to some Madrass? Do u know what happens in a Madrass? or u are also blind like other foreigners, who just behave like Madrass = Training Camp for the terrorists. Yes i agree if the terrorists means the Scholars of Islam, then Madrass = Training Camps for the terrorists.

@Concerned

Stop behaving like an illiterate Muslim. When someone speaks about Islam u call it Mullah-ism, if u can't handle Islam, then just change ur religion... get it?
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:40 PM PST 

@Chacha

i think u should be out of the religion i think. I have seen ur previous comments, i really feel pity on ur thoughts..
Advisor replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 12:50 PM PST 

@Waqar Latif
Little knowledge is not only dangerous for you but it may affect others as well. When you write something on this forum, please choose appropriate words, blind, change ur religion phrase are unacceptable on this educated forum. You are acting like a primary school teacher.

May Allah give you more wisdom and sense.
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 01:01 PM PST 

@Advisor

u didn't answer what exactly i said, but start pointing on me, so what you think about ur behavior?

Lastly, u don't need to worry about my knowledge or behavior, i am far more knowledgeable, literate, & foreseer then u.

& btw, atleast post something which i can answer. i am not accept some illiterate guy teaching me something, while not put my single point in front of him
Ali3 replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 03:12 PM PST 

Well said, Mr. Waqar Latif.
Expat replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 04:58 PM PST 

Dear Waqar, There is a word for it 'netpicking' or 'nitpicking' please correct me and use the same for your 'Advisor'.
Concerned replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 05:29 PM PST 

@Waqar,

I am surprised that you just called me illiterate muslim when you have just started words war with everybody on this forum. I am sure you are one of those turban heads who have malaised our society and country. I hate people like you.

You are one stinky, uneducated mullah from bajour, I am sure. Go to hell!!!!!
Waqar Latif replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 06:34 PM PST 

@Concern

so u proven my point about "illiterate", while i meant only "illiterate Muslim" at that time:P

I don't wage war with everyone, other then only those who speaks against Islam. or Muslims, & i will continue doing this.

Just for ur information, i am double masters, (M.Phil) more educated then ur whole family (foreign returned). Yet, good enough learned muslim. Not a "Illiterate Muslim" like u, who thinks Dawah is Mullah-ism. while Quran is pretty clear in this. So far i am not a mullah, but would love to stand infront & u pray behind me. & I get the reward of ur as well as everyone praying behind me. & u only get the reward of only ur prayer.

But why u care? Mr. Illiterate Muslim, for u the only thing which matters is, this world, ur foreign kaffir lords, & Media.
Concerned replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 07:16 PM PST 

@Wicki :)

Now I am sure that you are not only from Bajour but also a child abuser in some madrassah.
JI replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:13 PM PST 

Bismillah Irrahma Nirrah Heem

La Houla Wa La Quwwata Illa Billah Alee Ul Azeem
JI replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 08:35 PM PST 

Mudrassah should teach people how to be good muslim as well as a doctor, engineer, perperty dealer, contractor, shopkeeepers etc,
Tell me any Imam who has announced in the Jummah Prayer "Please look into your soul, if you have cheated all week, told non-stop lies all week, no need to come to mosque next friday if you cannot mend your ways".
Azher Syed Manchester replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:05 PM PST 

BREAKING NEWS
According to the the criteria set by the Pakistan Census department:
Educated is some one who can read his name and write the spellings of his name correctly on paper.

No one on this forum not a single person can be reagarded as illietrate or uneducated.
cool down guys.
smile for this breaking news
Aamir replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 09:46 PM PST 

@Waqar

"If u get a chance to see the video when those attackers leaving the scene u will get surprised that they were not in hurry, doing everything claimly.."

This is called "Post-facta Analysis" of the situation; means its very easy to be intelligent after the event. I stand by my precept that there is no defence against a terrorist attack. No preemptive measure can prevent the act to take place, unless you know one or more of the "When", "Who", "How","Where". Can you or anybody provide info atleast one of the phrased word in the context of terrerist attack to prevent next occurrence in Pakistan?

The only way to prevent is to remove the underlying reasons of such an act.
Azher Syed, Manchester replied on Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:38 PM PST 

Why blame madrassa? Has any agency built Primary, Nusery, or kinder Gartens, High Schools, or GCSE level or such fascilities where kids could start their schooling. None of us can answer these questions nor the establishment has done concrete work in this regard. We have failed to provide them ( I mean those people living in NWFP, Northern areas, Waziristan, Swat or where ever we are blaming the fault lies; We have been busy in gaining absolute power when ever we get a chance to win few seats here and there, then comes the horse trading, then we resort to Governor raj, we are happy to slaughter our own people to make the rest of the World happy in a show of solidirity against the Fake wars waged by others. How quickly we get carried away with the propaganda war against our intersts? this is not some thing hidden, we are quick each and every thing on islam, we don't see the that this is wrong doing on the part of some one, we should not blame Islam. If a army officer voilates the constitution, does it mean it is the fault of the army, no no it is the fault of the person, he should be held responsible for it. Let us broaden our vision and thinking.
Waqar Latif replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 01:16 AM PST 

@Concerned

i guess u found a person who abused u in ur childhood, that's why u r so much sure :P, No comments for u Looser..

@Aamir

Being a security person, i know we can't say that "we didn't know it could happen".. terrorists, robbers, thiefs don't alarm u before comming.. since this is our duty to analysis each situation, before anything can arise. We call it risk analysis, but these sifarishies only know just to put 3 cars (1 on the front, & 2 at the back) & close the roads then u are safe.

& also, i have said in many forums & saying here as well, that i can disintegrate RAW inside pakistan, as well suicide attacks. I just need 4 months in full power.
Advisor replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 01:20 PM PST 

@ Waqar Latif

Thanks but no thanks for your offer. You cannot control the people on this forum and you are talking about full power in Pakistan. I am 100% sure you do have some issues at home as well.
Look how many persons you bashed on this thread.
1) Concerned (i guess u found a person who abused u in ur childhood, that's why u r so much sure :P, No comments for u Looser)
2) @Chacha (i think u should be out of the religion. . Act like HeadMaster.
3)@yess (how many time u actually went to some Madrass? )
4)@Ashraf (which is GOVERNMENT, Democracy, India, CIA, Masout, & their agents (BLA, TTP, MQM)etc).
You are considering every single people is your enemy.

For sure you have some attitude problem. I would suggest you to take some behavioral change course and yes I would pay your tuition for this course.
Bro,you can express your thoughts very nice and politely if you want. There is no need for screaming and yelling.

Your well wisher and advisor with free suggestions.
Waqar Latif replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 03:02 PM PST 

@Advisor

Baby, i never asked for ur support so stop being behaving as over smart, Just learn some English, i said, I can do it, which means i am saying these Sifarishies don't know there Job Get it? or still need more explanation to this line?. & also my family & life is perfectly going fine, u don't need to worry about it. Now coming to bashing "Concerned". He initially attacked someone while saying something, if u can't go through whole thread then don't comment. Now coming to chacha, he is always being against Islam, so my comments were like that, & i never yeild on him, i only expressed my thought.

& yess, went against madrass without any reason, so i simply asked him "how many times u actually went to some madrass?" where is yelling or showing my anger?

I think u have some understanding problem, yes i went in aggressive mod only with Concerned, but i answered each & every his query. but he always went like not answering me, but only pointing... so in the end, i also went like that.. & why u are crying? u also behaved like pointing at me, do u also have some problem at ur home? or feeling complex?
Waqar Latif replied on Thursday, March 5, 2009 03:13 PM PST 

Ohh missed this line..

4)@Ashraf (which is GOVERNMENT, Democracy, India, CIA, Masout, & their agents (BLA, TTP, MQM)etc).
You are considering every single people is your enemy.

So for u this is every single person. geat.. ur world only runs around these things...

For me only these are my enemies.. get it? which is ur whole world (Containing Every Single person)... & it is no where even closed to attack ashraf..
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   yasir jamil
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:32 PM PST 
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   Ch Khalid
Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:28 PM PST 
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Dear All
Aslam O Alakum

DHAI Phase 2 Sector E Plot Inquiry

I have recently been alloted a plot in DHAI phase 2 during reallocation of deleted plots ballot. My old plot was in D Sector and now have been alloted in Sector E. My plot is located on street 14B which is not present on the map held on the internet. Only street 14 (located North of Jacrand club) and street 14 A exist.Probably new street have been made now and if any one knows about it please share it.

OR If any body who might have attended the ballot on 21 Feb 2009 might have seen the new map of DHAI phase 2/sector E could help me out in finding this new street 14B by describing its location or sending me map on my e mail.
I will be grateful.
my email address is
yours Sincerely

Ch Khalid
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