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Ejaz

Saturday, February 7, 2009 04:00 AM PST

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AOA,

I just read the comments of CHACHA. It appeared to me the story of many people including my self. I was also impressed by the TV Ads and Commercial by Hazrat Riyaz Malik Sahib of Bahria Town. So first of all invested in:
1-BT Sect-C; LHR. And was so lucky that got plot in Amber Block..till last year, I called BT many towns and they just answered you will get posession very soon. When I visited BT, there are even no signs of AMBER BLOCK. So..After that never checked its status again.

2-Another Investment PH-8 was in BT Rawalpindi. Once again was so lucky to get plot in P-Block. Before 2 Yrs, only a very thick grass was there without any development in P Block......The statement of BT is same that posession will be very soon. So I never contacted again.

3-The third Investment was in BT Overseas Cat -C. Once again there is no news even about three years have already passed. So, once again, just got disappointed and decided to never invest in BT again.

I really surprise a lot when I read the colums of Mr. Malik Riyaz in his newspaper DAILY JINNAH. He is such a Shameless fellow that still talking about common man and poor people. Another interesting aspect is that Khushnood Ali Khan who is working in Malik's newspaper and who claims to be RIGHT HAND of Mr. Zardi and other Leaders of Pakistan is also always praising Malik Riyaz and calling him a person having ALLAH's fear and doing a lot for NEEDY PEOPLE.

I just can believe only that it can happen only in our country that such CULPRITS can get closer and closer to the RULERS and RULERS too are proud of having such fellows in their friends list. In developed countries, no leader even would like to talk to them .....

So...We can just pray that may be there is a good time in our beloved country that the ppl like me can make a HOME FOR their kids who are just living in other countries and hoping that their next generation has not to go out of their country and will be having a respectful life in their own country.

saeedusa replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 04:23 AM PST

I just got an email from Bahria office that my Gulmahar 746 which i paid extra to get park front has been relocated to 760 in Bahria Orchards.I like to know the advice or opinion from every viewer:

1-How can we fight with Bahria against it...law suit(option)
2-What's advantage or disadvantage of getting plot in Orchard.
3-If you haven't paid developement charges in sector C then what will be charges in Bahria Orchard.

chacha replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 06:20 AM PST

i never bought anything in bharia..
i dont trust this development

Batheja replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 06:56 AM PST

Chacha Ji,

Aab kahan invest karain? App key tarha ham bhee minar-e-pakistan see chalang laganey kay chakron main hain. Koi hamanin bhee mashwar dain.

eh replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 12:23 PM PST

Jannat maen.

Mama replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 02:26 PM PST

Chacha Jee, you appears to be more clever than zardi there4 u dont go for GHATEY KE SOADA. Hum ghareeb Awami villa (Malik Riaz Awami Behbood scheme) waley kahan jaen ! ! Chacha jee

Azad replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 06:48 PM PST

At some stage this year Bahria will hand over possession of a few sectors in Phase 8. But Phase 8 is such a huge area, it will take them a few years to complete the handover of all sectors.

All developers in Pakistan should state exactly when the plots would be deliver and if they fail to deliver on time then they should have to pay a penalty to the plot owners. Therefore we need proper laws and an independent judiciary in pakistan, where people can seek redress from powerful developers. But to single out Bahria I think is wrong, in many ways Bahria is better than a lot of other developers in Pakistan however there is still a lot of need for improvement.

Aam Admi replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 06:51 PM PST

every one should go in LONG MARCH to throw away shamelees, corrupt, and very very bad " ZARDARI & chalees (40) chor. All this government is very very corrupt now. Moulana Fazal-u-Rehan, Naik, Rehman Malik and Doooogar. All are the worst people pakistan history has ever seen. The "INQILAB" is on our door. Bloody inqilab. Poor people are dying with hunger and atta-u-rehan 80 lakh car is captured for which he has not paid cutom duty. Dooooogar daughter is getting 2 marks from question of one mark?????????????????????????????
INQILAB

Ahsen Khan replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 07:56 PM PST

Hi,
I think I was also once affectees of Bahria town.Like our overseas friends.I booked a 10 M plot in overseas cat D of BT Lahore.At that time £ was 100 Rs.Paid 4 installments in £ ,then went to Lahore,there was no sign of anything,Went to BT office,guy called Maj Nouman from Artillery Regiment(Gods Knows since when they train Property Dealers in PMA Kakul)told me that u will get the plot soon and u should clear all the installments in one go.Thanks to CMY and other friens I did nt pay anything and filed for a refund.They retured my money in Pak Rs I sustained a loss at that time since they refused to payback in £s and deducted Rs80,000 assome special deduction.
This guy Malik Riaz is a shameless fruad,but no doubt represents a typical character of our society who have become rich illegeally by fruad,cheating and deception.Mushraf was in his pocket as one of his family members was employed by BT as a design specialist on a pay of 4 lakhs.I dont know his links with current Ali Baba and 40 chors.
But In my opinion this overall trend of greed,theft and fraud culture in Pakistani society should change.Overseas Pakistanis are an asset who are send $4-5 billion to pakistan each year out of love to their miserable country who has been devastated and plundered many times.This Guy Malik Riaz should be brought to justice and should be tried for his crimes for looting millionfrom pakistanis.
He is worst than Isaralis and Indians.
Ahsen
UK

BT Lahore replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 12:57 AM PST

Had any effectte of BT has ever tried writting an email or written application to Mr. Riaz Malik?

Effectee replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 01:34 AM PST

They dont reply to email, the care centre gives a false info on instruction from Mr Riaz Malik "THE SHAMELESS "

Baba replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 01:50 AM PST

I bought many plots in these societies some time back. I sold all of those on very high profit. I became very rich man. Then I bought a Boing 777 and flew to another planet. Suddenly I woke up, I was in my Jhhuggi, no plot, no file, no nothing. Babi was sitting besides me :(((

Fahad Zahid replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 04:54 PM PST

I say they are all like that, DHA, BT, Many of the Canal road societies. Many societies on canal road don't relocate your plot but they do have plots having 5-6 marlas missing and they dont even compensate you for that, DHA dosent have fuul land for Phase 7 and are not doing bal;lot for the most smallest project like phase 5 ext. They are all like that.

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ALi khan

Saturday, February 7, 2009 02:37 AM PST

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Rooms: 2-3
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Fahad Zahid

Saturday, February 7, 2009 02:34 AM PST

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Need price info of Main roads.

Kindly tell me the rates per kanal on the following Main roads, if the rates differ from one area to another please give an average rate.

1) Main GT (Grand Trunt) road starting from Lahore to Gujrat.

2) Main Riwand road

3) Main Multan road starting from Thokar Naiz Baigh.

A.M.BUTT replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 06:45 PM PST

Fahad it is not possible to know about the rate like this.

Multan road and Riwind road starting from 14 lakh to 20 lakh per Marla

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Zafar

Friday, February 6, 2009 10:46 PM PST

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Newely constructed double storey house on prime location of phase II(near Ace Academy).Plot size 50X100,Total covered area is 6200 square feet.It is two portion house,each having three beds with attach bath,D/D TV lounge,Kitchen,servant room/bath.

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Fahad Zahid

Friday, February 6, 2009 10:21 PM PST

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Please people think about what I am saying

Brothers we deserve what ever is happening to us right now, all this lost money in property people, disheartened. We for the past 60 years have been frauding each other weather its the Government or us regular people, from the simple grocery seller to a defense property dealer, so how can we complain now, I think we have lost the right to complain. I am 19 years old and I am utterly heart broken as to what kind of a country my elders have left for me to carry on with. We only go for the small fixes which give us a little money and in trun creates huge problems weather they be social or economic problems.

Pakistan Zindabad

:pkf :pkf

Khayyam replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 11:09 PM PST

Masha-Allah Fahad.

You have achieved wisdom at a very early age. I always believed that the fist step to recovery is the self admittance of all faults. You have rightfully said that we have lost the right to complain. Just don't loose hope - it is kufar. Do the best you can, and leave the rest to Allah. We Pakistanis will come out of this slump once a majority of us will admit that we collectively (majority of us) are corrupt. It will then just take one leader amongst us to lead the rest of the faithful – Insha-Allah. Keep working hard with sincere honesty and keep praying. That is all you and I can do.

Reader replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 01:14 AM PST

Fahad & Khayam - very thought provoking. I firmly believe that our main problem is not economic, its social as we have become a nation of munafakeen. All that matters is who knows who and how much money one has. If it continues like this, it is not very difficult to draw the logical conclusions.
Accepting the reality is indeed the first step and we are not even prepared to accept it. Majority %age of our poluation still believes that America, Israel and India are our enemies. Infact we are our worst enemies and nobody else has to do anything to harm us.

Ali3 replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 03:33 AM PST

I agree 100%. No foreign armies came to Karbala but Muslims themselves caused their own greatest tragedy!

Safwan Khan. replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 04:53 AM PST

Pakistan is in "downward" spiral. Trust me inevitability is right at the corner if "we" don't change. I dont have a crystral ball, just look at the history and you would know.

yessss replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 09:56 AM PST

One individual cannot be blamed for what is going on in Pakistan. The everyday man of the street has NO power by himself, unless he throws a shoe at the right person !!! But, generally, the average man must join forces of tens of millions of others and join the long march or any other kind of MASS protest against the corrupt leadership of Pakistan and the selfish and dangerous desires of US, Izrael, and India. All those just mentioned will destroy Pakistan just as sure as this is 2009.

I applaud the 19-year-old for speaking out. Maybe he will be the next shoe thrower or Gandhi !! The answer is EITHER one brave individual or a group of millions who change the course of Pakistan.

Hamid,Toronto replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 01:50 PM PST

Pakistani nation is a brilliant and genius nation on the earth. Nobody denies that reality. For example, in Norwegian and Canadian Govts called us “the most productive people on the earth”. The question is that why we cannot shine as a Pakistani nation. In my opinion, the mother of all crimes is POVERTY. Poor person does not have any religion or moral values. Besides the poverty there are quite few other things we need to work on them.

Please see the list below in priority order:

1) Poverty
2) Education
3) Lack of religion knowledge
4) Democracy

The questions are:
Who will be responsible to fix these issues?
Govt or common Pakistani Citizens?

On poverty and education side, you cannot say that GOVT is responsible to fix these issues. We all have to work together to accomplish these goals. How ?
I believe overseas Pakistani can play a significant role to work with GOVT or non GOVT organization to reduce the poverty and to increase the national literacy rate. I will discuss above mentioned four point one by one:

For Education:
Overseas Pakistani can work with following personality or organizations:

i) Shezad Roy ( Singer)
ii) Imran Khan
iii) Jawaad Ahmed ( Singer)
iv) Agaa Khan Foundation
I can dig some more organization.

For Poverty:
Overseas Pakistan can work with following organizations:
i) KhushKhali Bank ( Micro Bank)
ii) Agaa Khan Foundation
iii) Abdul Sattar Edhi
iv) Imran Khan ( 2 Rs Rooti Campaign )

In my opinion, Imran Khan will be more successful in social sector than Politics.

We can make a partnership with KhushKhali Bank. If Bangladesh Garmin Bank can win a noble prize then what is wrong with us. By the way Garmin Bank Chairman was trained and taught in Pakistan.

Note: Please please do not involve religion here.

Lack of religion Knowledge:
As parents it is our moral duty to watch our children to make sure they are not involved in any fanatic things ( Taliban) on the name of religion. GOVT CANNOT do anything on this issue. We have to defeat these corrupt and non-sense Mullahs.
Please make sure as a responsible citizen you are NOT feeding poison in your kids innocent minds.

I would like to mention one example here. After the Wah Factory suicide blast, police arrested one potential suicide bomber who changed his mind at the last moment. During the interrogation he said,
“ Baith-ul-Mehsood told them that after the blast a dozen Hoors will come down from sky to pick up your head in Heaven” ( Nozbella ).

Your kids are your responsibility and to make them good human being, good Muslims and useful citizens are our moral duty. Nothing to do with GOVT / GOVT policies.

Democracy:
As a nation you cannot progress without democracy. One man rule is not good for any country. There is no doubt that General Ayoub Khan and General Musharif did very well on economic side but to be honest we don’t need this progress.
For example, some Musharif ‘s mistakes are not justifiable or irreversible like
i) Lal Masjid
ii) Nov 3 Judges issue
iii) Restriction on Media

In democracy, no one can take these bad decisions. ONLY dictator can make these mistakes.

Now the question is who is responsible to protect the democracy in the country. There are ONLY three parties:
i) Army
ii) Politician
iii) Public ( Awaam ) .

Why Public?
Do not re-elect bad politician. We have to build the institutions not personalities. Musharif, Bhutto, Nawaz and etc will come and go but institutions or country will stay forever. We have to avoid Personality worship. It should be ONLY and ONLY ONE Slogan: Jeeaa Pakistan.

hafeez replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 02:41 PM PST

The question is how to get out this situation. Is there any solution. One oportunity is in the shampe of Iftikhar chaudhry. The simple people object that Ch is also production of of LFO the answer is yes; as like Mousa out of Faroun's Society and Muhammad out of pagan arabs. The second option is Imran Khan. Support it if you want a change.Only these two options are available to you.

Azad replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 07:25 PM PST

I will try to keep my message brief.

What our fathers sowed we shall reap and what we sow our children shall reap.

There are no short cut and quick fixes, we are a country and people need to take long-term and permanent measures to address our problems rather than to look for instant solutions.

Until the lot of the poor people is improved in Pakistan the country shall fail to progress and achieve its potential.

Fahad Zahid replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 10:35 PM PST

Insha-Allah we will do something at the right time

Salam replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 01:04 AM PST

''to be honest we don’t need this progress''
I can bet that no person on this forum can even list the items of progress we made in Musharraf's rule.
Mr. Zahid all what you mentioned above was progressing at enormous speed.
Now we are going down with the same speed.
Please, check the history of our education dpt.
Please, check the history percapita income.
Please, check the history of GDP growth.
Please, check the history of all state dpts.
Check the history of Baking growth.
The list continue

Hamid, Toronto replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 01:33 AM PST

Salam Bahi,

You don’t need to mention these figures. I can provide you some more statistics if you want. My point is that One-man rule is not good for country. Imagine all the figures went down like were never exist.

Do you know why, because Mr. Musharif did not build any instituations. I have to say one more time, One-man rule is not good at all for our country. I would like to give Musharif some credit for cracking down our federation by killing Bugti. ( I am not saying that Bugti was a good person). You cannot resolve every single problem with force. In Ayoub regime, Pakistan made a remarkable progress , do you know on what expense? There is no doubt that Ayoub played a big role in Bangladesh formation.

If you want to keep all the minorities (Pathan, Balochi, Sindhi, Saraki )together then Democracy is the only choice. There is no other alternative we have.

I would like to mention just one more example about federation. Kaalabagh Dam is/was a good project for the country but we cannot build it by cracking down our federation or upset the minorities.

Kashif replied on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:14 PM PST

Just to add on what Hamid mentioned in his post, if one man or dictatorship was of any good, the rest of the world must have adopted that. Second, if those economic indicators were real, based on solid grounds, then no government can pull this down in such a short period. Although Zardari govt. is also following Musharaf's way (unfortunately) but still we can see some differences (e.g. release of arrested judges, AQ Khan and other matters)...the worst democracy is better than best dictatorship and it is now proven. I m not at all a supporter of Zardari but if option is given to choose between a democratically elected person vs. any dictator, my vote will always be with the democratic process.

Insha-ALLAH our nation will soon find its way to the real democracy and it is only possible when we keep filtering all the politicians through regular elections...there is no reason why we cant progress....just a bit more commitment for the democracy and there we are.

Pakistan Zindabad - Pakistani Zindabad.

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shahid

Friday, February 6, 2009 08:42 PM PST

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CMY

Friday, February 6, 2009 07:19 PM PST

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kharal replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 07:40 PM PST

Which Phase Pls

CMY replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 08:05 PM PST

DHA Phase 7 Lahore

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CMY

Friday, February 6, 2009 07:11 PM PST

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Dr Qadeer Khan

:pkf :pkf :pkf :pkf :pkf

Congratulation our hero Dr Qadeer Khan is now a free man. Lets pray for his health an safety.

:pkf :pkf :pkf :pkf :pkf

Muhaq-qiq replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 07:33 PM PST

AL HAMDO LILLAH

MABROOK *** MABROOK *** MABROOK

Jeeway Pakistan Sada Jeeway - Inshallah - Amin

Wondering replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 08:59 PM PST

Pakistan Zindabad

Anyone who disagrees can go to hell.

sb replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 09:44 PM PST

COURTS ARE STILL OPERATING MR. IFTIKHAR CHUADHRY! LIFE HAS TO MOVE ON, PLEASE SPARE THIS NATION.

Insaf replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 11:21 PM PST

What a twisted conclusion to blame someone who is promoting rule of law. Its not all about moving on with life but living with respect that matters.
Long live Pakistan

Disagree replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 12:29 AM PST

Sorry to say but I disagree.
Why do we forget that this man was selling most dear state secrets for his personal profit!
He had confessed his crime and now he is free?

Muhaq-qiq replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 01:27 AM PST

AOA to all,
Its ok, fine any one can disagree, but
1- Apnay dahi ko khatta koyee nahi kehta siwaye musharaf k!!!
2- Means u r also disagree about all those americans jews and europeans scientists also who were doing all this since after second world war.
3 & last-Could u pl cear what sort of national secret he had disclosed(for sure he must have shared with u!!!)

limo replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 03:17 AM PST

Absolutely right sb, i honestly feel pity for those who really think that restoration of ex.chief justice can bring and establish real justice in the country.He is the real culprit and the one who has put this nation on the last legs.Had he been truly sincere with the country, seeing that he has become so controversial and won't be able to do justice with his post while in the office, would have simply stepped down and sit aside.
Disagree - i am also on your side, AQ Khan did something and confessed in front of the media.Now its a seperate debate whether he did of his own or state was involved (though involvement of state is hard to overlook for me), but afterwards he came on media and said that i am innocent, in other words its my country that should be questioned not me.Extremely disgusting on his part, a person of his staure is supposed to know the repercussions of what he is saying.

Naveed Yaseen replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 05:29 AM PST

> Sorry to say but I disagree.
> Why do we forget that this man was selling most dear state secrets for his personal profit!
> He had confessed his crime and now he is free?

1) Presume you are an engineer very well employed living comfortably in a wealthy society with a secure luxurious future ahead of yourself and your family. But for sake of your nation you leave all this and you put your own and your family's lives and future at risk. And you do that, not for one or two days, but for almost three decades. But then you are publicly accused of something you did as part of institution or as an individual, on which objections are perhaps arguable (discussed later), you are insulted and detained for no justification.

2) Now on what he did or is accused of doing, the nuclear proliferation. We Pakistanis are made to believe in distorted projection of reality by organized propaganda. We are made to believe in 5% as 95% and 95% as 5%. We are constantly fed with ideas tailored, explicitly and implicitly, up to details like choice of wordings, color schemes and rhythms, sometimes even tampering images and voices, distorting our perception of reality and thus subduing our behaviors to others' interests, individually and collectively.

The stark naked reality is,,, the biggest nuclear proliferator (and also the biggest abuser of nuclear technology in human history), is a signer of Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, the one who supplied Israel not just know-how, not just designs, not just technology, not just materials, not just equipments, not just prototypes, but rather supplied hundreds of actual nuclear weapons, and now again doing same to India, and none of this crime?

And when a Pakistani individual, or a Pakistani institution, or even Pakistan as a state (remember Pakistan has never committed to nuclear non-proliferation), assisted or attempted to assist a few voices raised against the stark naked aggressors, that becomes crime?

In my opinion, AQ Khan did an excellent job in whatever he did. 100/100.

Hello replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 07:12 AM PST

When he came Pakistan he was promoted as a hero all though there were equal contributions from other scientists. He had a better life in Pakistan.
All what he did was He did what he could but when the govt. control weakened during political regimes he was freely cashing himself.
He was not accused by any institution of Pakistan instead it was IAEA from UN.
All the blue prints of Pakistani centrifuges were shown to the diplomats of whole world in Washington DC. It was only him to blame for the leak as he was chief of independent institution.
1- He was being followed from long time by foreign agencies in Dubai.
His suppliers were two Swiss father / son who them self acknowledged the crime and went to jail. His undercover shipment to Libya was intercepted and identified from his personal belongings.
Mr. Qadaffi acknowledged that he was dealing with him. North Korea admitted of dealing with him.
In all above where do u see Pakistan.
The life quality gap between west Pakistan in late 70’s was 80’s was far lesser than as of today. I’m also an Engineer and hardly can save any money and live in a 3.5 room flat.
2- I fully agree to this. Imagine whole Pakistan was made to believe that they don’t have freedom of speech and their human rights are being violated.
I live abroad and here no one’s life is personal. (how? it is a long debate!)
Very true but we have to take the blame of our image. I remember western European channels use to show how Pakistani protest. Somebody tell me burning Alfalah square and shooting in Karachi, what was that?
IMO; if we don’t give any marks to man more pioneers of our nuclear programmed and similar projects we are not doing justice.

yessss replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 10:09 AM PST

Naveed Yaseen is brilliant. Re-read his "stark-naked reality" and remember it. He is totally right.

Izrael did not use brain-power to acquire nuclear technology and nuclear warheads. These were given to Izrael as a gift. The deadly phosphorous powder (chemical warfare) that Izrael sprayed over Gaza last month was a gift from the same country. Whwn Izrael decides to use them, America remains silent. After the Izraeli assault on Lebanon 2 years ago, America re-stocked Izrael's arsenal.

Let Iran send one bullet to Hamas and the world condemns it !!!

eh replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 12:27 PM PST

We can't pay back to what Dr. Qadeer Khan has given to us(nation). Who among us overseas Pakistani's dare to leave our lucrative jobs and go back to serve the country?

God Bless him.

dk replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 08:51 PM PST

any comments on the US & GB statments that they want to interogate dr. AQ

please dont overlook why this goverment have "uplifted" the "house arrest" of dr. AQ... i do not believe this goverment is trying to act like angles

maybe im wrong but i think this mans life and the dignity/pride of this nation was more safe, when there was a domestic trial on dr AQ

arsu replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 01:49 AM PST

dk your fear seems pretty logical. Infact by keeping him in house arrest, Musharaff provided him utmost protection.Not only protection but gave him pardon too.He saved this man and this nation too from any expected eventuality.His release should not be taken so plainly.Immediate impact we gonna face now is, the international pressure either to hand him over or allow access for further probe.And it will be actual test for the present government.We have to wait and see how far our govt can withstand these pressures.Benazir's statement about AQkhan is on record and this move of present government to be looked into that context.

Hamid, Toronto replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 06:14 AM PST

I believe as a nation we owe him something. He did not deserve what he got it from Musharif’s regime. At one point, he lost the temper but after all he is a human being. Mr. Musharif used him as a scapegoat. It is written on the wall that Pak GOVT made a deal with N. Korea and sold the N. technology. As a reward we took their Rocket and Ghouri /Babar Missiles technology. By the way the deal was initiated during Bibi’s regime and Mr. Musharif continued this deal or co-operation with N. Korea until late 2000.

We should not regret /repent on this deal. YES WE DID IT to save ourselves from canny and clever enemy.

Hamid, Toronto. replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 06:18 AM PST

dk and arsu, investigation chapter is closed now. The dust has been settled. If he can hide himself from media then the issue is dead.

dk replied on Monday, February 9, 2009 03:01 AM PST

hamid toronto

news of today is that current gov. have the option to apeal against drAQ..that was whAT shah mehmood qureishi told the media so the investigation chapter is not closed...this statment was made after the accusation from both india and usa gb allies...dont you think the gov. should make some careful decisions about releasing dr. AQ although i dont think the house arrest was the same as what CJ have been through ... dr. AQ did have telecommunications while CJ was completely disconnected (im not favoring CJ) just want to underline the degree of house arrest....the prove is that dr. AQ have been in discussion on express news through telephone

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LRE Rates Update

Friday, February 6, 2009 06:36 PM PST

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DHA Lahore Plot File Prices Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse

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Lahore Real Estate Market Pulse Feb 6, 2009 03:30 PM

DHA Lahore File Prices

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Allocation File 1 Kanal seller at 37 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 5 Extension Allocation File: Buyer(s) at 25.15 Sellers(s) at 25.25 lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 6 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 34.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 7 Allocation File Sellers(s) at 21.50 Lacs

DHA Lahore Phase 8 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 35.60 Seller(s) at 35.65 Lacs

Parkview-DHA-8 Lahore 1 kanal allocation TRANSFER file Buyer(s) at 28.80 Seller(s) at 28.90 Please note OPEN files are priced lower.

Parkview-DHA-8 10 Marla allocation Buyer(s) at 20.40 Seller(s)at 20.45 Lacs.

DHA Lahore Phase 9/10 Allocation File Buyer(s) at 14.35 Seller(s) at 14.40

DHA Valley Islamabad 5 Marla at losses on paid amount from 17000 to 21000

DHA Valley Islamabad 8 Marla at losses on paid amount from 13000 to 17000

DHA Islamabad 2 ext is at 11.25 lacs.

No buyers and no sellers. Its getting very boring here.

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Muhaq-qiq replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 06:54 PM PST

AOA,
O chud yaar fikr na kar, Allah Pak behtri karay ga.
Tawakal to Alallah. Hasbi y Allahe wa nae mal wakeel. Amin

(37883)

DHA Islamabad Phase 2

Friday, February 6, 2009 05:52 PM PST

Reply:

Plots for Sale in DHA Islamabad Phase 2

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Block

Plot

Size

Demand(Rs)

Features

For Sale

Islamabad

DHA ISB

1 Kanal

55 Lacs

* All facilities Available

For Sale

Islamabad

DHA ISB

1 Kanal

75 Lacs

* Main Bulevard, All facilities avil.

As salamu alaikum

DHA Phase 2 is fully developed Area. All facilities are available. State of the art development and facilities are provided. Ideal for investment and peaceful living Insha Allah. 100% Hassel free and smooth and clear transactions.

Serious buyers / interested parties to contact only.
Please send e mail on :

or leave your e mail / mobile with your offer for further discussion

(37882)

CHACHA

Friday, February 6, 2009 02:59 AM PST

Reply:

PLEASE GIVE ME ADVISE

Mairay humwatan bhaioo , zaraa tawajoo doo, bhai sahib zara idhar dekhna...

I buy in DHA file and the market crashes...
I Buy in Ajman Dubai and the market crash...
I buy in Gwader....no development
I buy in Engineer society Lahiore , no luck
I buy in DHA phase 8 .... now price decrease
I buy in USA ... again market crash...

Bahijan, gaderdan, mehrban.... abb main agar minare pakistan par char kar chalang laga doon too aap mind tou nahin karo gay ?

CHACHA

Ali3 replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 03:07 AM PST

Start to do some work, rather than doing speculative work. Do any hard work, and Inshallah Allah (SWT) will bless you with wealth more than you had before. Even a rerhiwala earns around Rs.15000 a month. If you are doing a job, then you can keep money with the National Savings Behbood scheme, the pay 16.80% and profit is exempt from tax. Or you can find a partner who will work on your behalf. In this way, both will benefit. Think long term.

Khayyam replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 03:18 AM PST

Chacha Gi,

Please do NOT jump from any minaar. Life is too precious. I hope you were joking, as taking own's life will not be forgiven by Khuda-Wand-Karim. We will make dua for you Insha-Allah. For now do not invest anymore in property.

salman replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 03:45 AM PST

sir ji!
sirf wait karien aap ney bohet achi investment ki hai ...only wait you will get amazinig profit..
beleive me...
wait only wait...is the basic rule in real estate business

Muhaq-qiq replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 03:58 AM PST

AOA to all,
The said place is not for the such practices (confirm from CM Punjab)!!! - Just kidding.
If u have the possession of all the mentioned properties then Ali3,s advise is best, at least u can create some job for few jobless in Pakistan.
Think positive for others u will be relaxed or just visit any near by jhggi colony and see how they are living.
Think twicly, Invest wisely, Help friendly, Enjoy life Thankfully!!!

NJ replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:07 AM PST

Now we understand why DHA, Gawader, dubai and USA market went down, Because Chacha bought into those markets. Just kidding...
well, I guess there are some things that are beyond anyone's control and that is called luck. Sometime you take every precaution but things still turnout to be bad. Just think long term, I am sure coming days will be better.

I won't recommend jumping off Minar-i-Pakistan as Minari-i-pakistan may crash just like real estate market, and jumping off minar is not solution to anything.

CHACHA replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:20 AM PST

Dear brothers,

Just to add more :

I buy shop in Pace circle... it also slow
I buy in Valencia ..... price static
I buy in 3 houses in USA price crash

Yes I still own all this and I will wait for few more days... maybe I will not jump from Minare pakistan... main tao rail kee patri par laat jaoun gaa... khana saath lay jauoon gaa ... agar train late hoa gai toa bhook naa lag jai..

Fahad Zahid replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:26 AM PST

Seriously brothers I haven't laughed this much in a long time, Thank you Chaha gi.

Fahad Zahid replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:29 AM PST

On a serious note you should consider investing in Bahria Town Comm in Block B because that is the one investment that has gone up in these past 2.5 years and has not come down, it only dropped 3-4 lacs during the last 2 months and has gained more than 20 lacs since 2006.

Fahad Zahid replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:29 AM PST

Sorry for the mistake

On a serious note you should consider investing in Bahria Town Comm in sector c because that is the one investment that has gone up in these past 2.5 years and has not come down, it only dropped 3-4 lacs during the last 2 months and has gained more than 20 lacs since 2006.

CHACHA replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:31 AM PST

Rootay hain Cham Cham nain ujar gai chain ray
deekh lia tera piar

meri kismat hee kuch aisee thee kay dil toot gai
meri kismat hee kuch aisee thee thee kay market crash hoo gai...

bahijan qadardan sciencedan meharban paandaan I also tried my luck in stock market it also crashed .....

hai ray hai neend nahin aai... deekh lia teera piar

NJ replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:34 AM PST

Chacha Ji, I would recommend that you take Chacheeee with you and go on vacation for few days and NOT think about you investment for few days.
I am sure this change will give fresh start and you will fell more energatic.
And let's not forget that you are not alone in this. A lot of people have lost a lot of money. Thousands lost their life savings in this downturn. So be positive and thank God that you are still better off than millions of people who can't even afford to eat.

I have also lost a lot of money in this real estate and have learned bitter lessons, but I think that is life there are ups and down in everyone's life.

Fahad Zahid replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:37 AM PST

You know ChaCha gi I diden't weap this much when the love of my life married someone else, this is only money ha ha ha (Smile)

Thouda Bathegga replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:52 AM PST

CHACHA JAAN,

Tusey tey koi maza-hia TV ya stage dramay wich kam karo. Tusi a karay kam wich pay gayey o?

Serioulsy did you really invested in all of them? I am really curious. I don't mean to be mean, but I have not laughed this much in a while.

Chachi no slam kahna. Maran diya na galan karo.

CHACHA replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 04:57 AM PST

I knew that I had bad luck even when I was a kid....

Maain aik meela deekhnay gai.. hazaroon loog kharay thay ... aur kaway nay mairay aupar beeth kar dee... yanee hazaroon loogoon main beeth mairay aupar hee kai girni thee????

maire kismat hee kuch aise thee kay dil toot gai

teeree doa takia kee naukri meray lakhhon kay sawn dhai
hai hai zay majburiiii

Bhateeja replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:00 AM PST

Iss tarha to hota iss tarah ke kamoun maien

Khayyam replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:06 AM PST

CHACHA JAN,

Can you please advise where are you going to invest next? INVESTORS BE AWARE! :-)

Seriously as soon as I go home, I will pray extra rakat on your behalf. I am tears of restless laugther.

CHACHA replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:15 AM PST

All the investments that I have written about are correct.... and I still hold them....

I have no idea where I will invest next.... I am running out of options... I told your CHACHI JEE today that we will go to Switzerland for vacations instead of investing anymore... atleast there will be a return....

Jaa apni hasratoon pay ansoo bha kay soo jaa

Noni pah nisana lagaa

uncle sargam aur haiga nai barq kay dubay main !!

Fahad Zahid replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:15 AM PST

CHACHA gi don't be sad at least you got all that money to invest with, at least you got that money with your own luck

Reader replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:38 AM PST

Chacha g, please dont go to Switzerland on plane, kahin woh bhee crash na ho jaaey..!

CHACHA replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:43 AM PST

Reader sahib agar plane crash hoo gai toa mairay baal bachoon kee mauj hoo jai gee life insurance laay kaar

saairee dunia amrica jaa rahee thee ...jum hamari janay kee baari aiee tao wahan bhee AIDS aaa gai....

apni kismat hee kuch aisee thee kay dil toot gai

Azad replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 06:55 AM PST

Property is a long term investment. If you are investing for quick profit then you are not a real investor but a gambler. Gambler do tend to lose money.

Batheja replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 07:16 AM PST

CHACHA JI,

Kaash kaway nay aap per beeth na key hoti to aaj yeh din na dekhna parta ...

manma replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 07:16 AM PST

chacha do not worry i buy your gwadar golden palm today for 7.5 lakh

Friend replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 09:42 AM PST

I am sorry, but I got kick out of it just reading this. Chaha G, you are said that you have been unlucky since you were a kid. It is amazing that many of us working hard and struggling and we don't consider ourselves unlucky. You have quite much property all over the world and you still think of yourself "unlucky". I truy belive in luck, but also planning and home work also deliver too. Take loss and trying again and I am sure you will just fine.

Take care!

Hamid,Toronto replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 11:40 AM PST

Chacha G,

Your post is funny and at the same time sad too. I would say try hard on your side and then rest leave it for God. May be this money is not in your “Mukadder”.

I would strongly suggest that donate some money for Sadka and Zakat.

May Allah shower his blessing on you!

Mohsin replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 12:26 PM PST

Dear Uncle / Chacha ji As salamualaikum I fully support the comments of Mr. Hamid from Toronto. Please pay your Zakat and Sadaqat on deserving.

In Quran, Allah Taala says "If you pay Saqat / Zakat :

1. Day
2. Night
3. Openly
4. Hidden

Then all your fears and sorrows will be finished and you'll be rewarded heavily by Allah Taala" (Surah Baqarah)

Insha Allah Taala, you will be compensated as soon as you start paying Zakat / Sadaqat. This phenomenon is a living Miracle (Moajza) from Allah Taala. May Allah accept our deeds

Anwar replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 03:23 PM PST

Actually chacha just has owned chachi in reality rest the property he mentioned in his post is his dream. He seems wished to have plot in those mentioned places but Alas! He never got chance to get yet. so that's why he is cheering himself by posting such posts. i just say to him "chacha jee deewaney aise na buno property kya chahey property dealers se suno".

Hi replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:10 PM PST

Chacha ji lets, start a manufacturing bussiness!
I also need to invest a small amount of money like $80k but its small money as compare to the ideas I have?

you may contact me @

Guys, Gillani was here in Switzerland with plane load of family own children and children from family plus few police officers.
Those police officers were doing some expensive shoppings like buying shoes from Bali!
Can a police officer in Pakistan afford a life style of Billionare?

Hello Panda replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 06:10 PM PST

Please invest in E-7 Islamabad to bring it down to earth so that ordinary people like me can invest. Thanks in advance.

Khan replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 06:57 PM PST

Think it like this, ALLAH gave you and HE took it back. Have faith in ALLAH, HE will give you back in some fashion. I also lot alot of money or I could say have nothing in the Bank :) couple of properties I bought in Pakistan are down the drain. Bought when dollar was at 60 not its around 80, price is still the same in rupees and with additional 30% inflation, its pretty much gone. BUT I have faith in ALLAH, in some fasion he is returning me. In this critical economic times when I see lay offs left/right, I am still on the job (thanks ALLAH). I am healthy, my family is healthy and I have there respect and love. What else?? :) so chil buddy

JI replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 08:54 PM PST

Chuchcha Jaan
My advice is sell everything and buy a house in phase five (5 marla to 2 kanal) and buy a small commercial plot. Build a plaza and get a franchise from McDonalds or H. Karim Baksh or Subway (they had their ad recently in newspapers for the same). There is a lot of opportunity in phase 5 with lots of houses and no shops yet.
Chuchchi jaan can cook fresh roties and send you on the shop with mukhkhan and everything.
Live happily everafter

BHATHEJA MINOR replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 09:10 PM PST

CHACHA JEE, APP KEE KABER KAHAN HO GEE , I WILL COME TO YOUR GRAVE WITH A FLOWER FOR FATHEH KHAWNEE, I M 2 WORRIED ABT UR HEALTH CHACH JEEEE, LOOK SHARP

Iqbal Ch replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 09:19 PM PST

Please dont be dis-appointed. Investment in property is a long term business. If you hold on your property, it is definitely going to benefit you in a span of 5-6 years.

Chachee replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 09:21 PM PST

I will burry ur Chacha in Golden Palm Gawader, do come Bhathejey

Rehmat Ali replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 09:50 PM PST

It looks like Chacha is just taking Chuska. He has all the money on world to buy property and he is talking about jumping from Minare-e-Pakistan.

TAYA G replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 10:56 PM PST

CHACHA G, you had so much money for investing all over the world and yet you are cursing your luck.

To CHACHA FRAUD replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 12:59 AM PST

CHACHA Fraud, Thanks for waisting space and time of several people who responded to your lie.

Do longer your Bathega replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 01:22 AM PST

SHAME ON YOU CHACHA!!!! What was your point for this discussion besides giving us a good laugh?

Fahad Zahid replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 02:29 AM PST

you know guys we needed to have a laugh and smile for a change when we come to this website because as soon as it loads the depressed rates also depress ones feelings.

Ex-Bathega replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 02:56 AM PST

I have to agree. CHACHA is pretty funny. I wonder if he is a comedian by profession.

chacha replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 06:17 AM PST

aai mairay humwatan bhaio jingiko ko enjoy karo.....

there are different views of life....
sorry if i wasred your time... i wanted people to laugh

but the investments are correct

Malik replied on Sunday, February 8, 2009 01:39 AM PST

asslam o alaikum,
Please stop it......

Ali3 advise is very bad. Do verything but don't do interest because sood is haraam, we are muslim.
Sir first please pay zakawaat if pending

(37881)

CHACHA

Friday, February 6, 2009 02:42 AM PST

Reply:

GAWADAR RAFIQ GROUPS GOLDEN PALMS

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

For Sale

DFV

DWKNF

DENF

Bahijan give me some advise.

I bought one kanal file in Gawader from Rafi Group Golden Palm fore 6 lakh 3 years ago but still there is no activity.
What should I do ? Have i lost ? Should I SUICIDE?

CHACHA

Rashid Mehmood MMM replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 01:51 PM PST

Chacha Golden palms Gwadar is a project of Hashoos .
is Rafi Group launch any society by the name of golden palm ?
plez give me any web link of this project ?

Rashid Mehmood

replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 02:23 PM PST

yes rashid is right.
GOLDEN PALMS IS THE PROJECT OF SADRUDDIN HASHWANI.
IF U NEED ANY KIND OF SERVICES AND UPDATES SO CONTACT US.

CHACHA replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 12:06 AM PST

Sorry , correction it is called GREEN PALMS

By the way how is Gawader progressing?

malik ahmed replied on Sunday, June 26, 2011 04:45 PM PST

i am intrested to sale a plot at golden palms gawader
4m-c-9
2 kanal main boulevard .
golden palms gawadar

malik ahmed advocate replied on Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:32 AM PST

dear plz contact us
we arrange a legal team and entr in supreme court
hashoo group regarding golden palms
thanks

(37880)

Amjad Hussain

Friday, February 6, 2009 02:31 AM PST

Reply:

Offices in Gulberg

Ad Type

City

Scheme

For Rent

Lahore

Gulberg

Murad Enterprises, Gulberg, offers offices on Main Boulevard Gulberg (Al-Hafeez Shop Mall), Near Liberty Market (Al-Hafeez View) and behind M. M. Alam Road (Al-Hafeez Suites). Offices are of sizes, 400, 500, 900 and 1320 Sq, Ft. at lowest rent in the market.

(37879)

imran

Friday, February 6, 2009 02:16 AM PST

Reply:

House for sale

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Block

Plot

Size

Road

Demand(Rs)

For Sale

Islamabad

DHAI

500

Main bulev

250Lacks

A brand new house for sale in DHA 2 Islamabad ,Ideal location ,unique in nature, you will not find location like this in DHA2, seeing is believing .

(37878)

imran

Friday, February 6, 2009 02:07 AM PST

Reply:

sale of house

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Block

Plot

Size

Demand(Rs)

Features

For Sale

Islamabad

Bahria town

Near design wing

12.5

125 Lacks

Corner /facing park

A brand new house for sale in Bahrain town Rawalpindi ,Ideal location ,unique in nature, you will not find location like this in BT, seeing is believing . :pkf

(37877)

Fahad Zahid

Friday, February 6, 2009 12:58 AM PST

Reply:

Need Property Expercts advice.

Friends I am very confused right now as to why even after the settlement of many obstacles which were facing Pakistan a couple of months ago have settled down, the property market is not picking up. The stock market has started to rise so why not this market. There are positive steps being taken by the Prime Minister which are being welcomed by many, the Bharati threat is now long gone so why aren't people investing right now. If possible can someone forecast as to when this market might pick up again.

Happening replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 01:33 AM PST

http://www.daily.pk/politics/politicalnews/9368.html?task=view

Happening replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 02:20 AM PST

No direct flights between US, Pakistan: PAC informed

ISLAMABAD: The United States (US) has imposed a ban on direct flights to and from Pakistan into the US.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009%5C02%5C05%5Cstory_5-2-2009_pg7_19

Fahad Zahid replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 02:31 AM PST

Brother I do understand you first like but please, I want a logical and preferably a long answer to my question :)

Ali3 replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 03:02 AM PST

Over supply of plots, more and more will come in market as the societies develop and give possessions. Open lands or plots are used as investments in Pakistan, ultimately those investments come in the market for sale. Also, property prices have fallen all over the world. Many countries have laws that if the allotee does not build within two years, the allotment will be canceled without notice. In Denmark (or Norway?) there's a law that if a property is vacant for a year then anybody can move in for free. I saw that on "The Travel Channel". In Russia the government gives free land to any citizen if someone wants to build a house. Same in many other countries. Only in Pakistan such system exists that first the government and the bureaucrats create an artificial shortage, then blackmail the people who genuinely need a home or place for work such as shop or industry. This is because in Pakistan, every politician and government is a businessman too, and they want to become rich overnight without having to do nay work.

Expat replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:40 AM PST

Pakistan need foreign investment and confidence of expatriates is shaken and given circumstances are very discouraging for expatriates to even visit back home.
Cost of travelling to Pakistan from central Europe is double than travelling to Dehli, Dhaka ro Colombo.

Azad replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 07:10 AM PST

The world is in a recession therefore it would be unrealistic to expect Pakistan real estate to pick up anytime soon.

Besides this I think there is a lot of supply of plots coming into the market over the next few years and prices will remain depressed for a few years even in the absence of a global recession and a credit crunch.

Prices in a country like Pakistan actually shouldn't be as high as it is, but it is the lack of alternative investments in the country and the artically engineered housing shortage that is created the rapid price increases in the past.

We should be creating a few new cities to keep pace with the growing future population and their need for decent and affordable accomodation.

yessss replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 10:36 AM PST

I have a friend who just bought a house in Larkana for 20,000,000 rs. Yes, in Larkana !!!!!!!

yessss replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 10:54 AM PST

Very interesting article/link on why the US will not allow direct flights from Pakistan. If you do not obey the US, you will be punished severely !!!!!!!!

Wakeup replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 05:18 PM PST

Mr. Yesss, It was only PIA which was flying directly from US and it is only PIA which fly directly to Pakistan from UK.
No foreign country or company is interested to have any sort of social or bussiness links with Pakistan.
People from UK should be very thankful to Allah for the blessing of direct flights.
I'm not counting middleast or east.

(37876)

CHACHA

Friday, February 6, 2009 12:14 AM PST

Reply:

TEST

TEST

Test Passed replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 12:47 AM PST

Chacha Jee, Congratulation you passed the test.

tzk replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 02:14 AM PST

Hun Nokri Labbo! ;)

(37875)

chacha

Friday, February 6, 2009 12:12 AM PST

Reply:

status of Shami Twin Towers in Ajman

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Block

Plot

For Sale

214

1324

234

WHAT is the status of Shami Twin Towers in Ajman, Is the construction going on?

Jameel replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 02:46 AM PST

you will see Ajman propery will prove to be worst Fraud of realestae History, people have lost all their money.
I had been warning the people for last 1 year.
There is bunch of some optimistic people on this forum but their Morale is finally getting lower and lower

chacha replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 03:22 AM PST

jameel sahib thanks for your reply, why you think that ajman will be a big fraud
lot of new projects are in progress there?

can you provide some more proof with your statement

Azad replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 07:28 AM PST

I think it would be useful for people to give facts and support their opinions with facts or logic rather than to give silly opinions. This is not directly at anyone particular but I am getting fed up with people on this forums trying to portray opinions as facts, which leaves the reader none the wiser and even more confused than before. One makes investment based on facts and logic rather than instinct and even that of someone else.

Muhaq-qiq replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 06:41 PM PST

AOA to all,
Nakheel has already gone on hold for the water front projects costing around $75billions.
Rufi and others from Pakistan has yet done nothing there but has grabed money as they did in Pakistan.
Abu dhabi also started feeling heat.
But hopefully there would,nt be such thing like "Fraud" as some mentioned here.

Jameel replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 04:52 AM PST

Nearly 53 percent of the UAE’s development portfolio, worth a combined $582bn, has been suspended as the construction industry grapples with the country’s dramatic real estate crash.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/-of-uaes-construction-projects-suspended
If you have paid 1/2 of Money and your Prject is supended then what else is Fraud??

Azad replied on Saturday, February 7, 2009 08:40 AM PST

I have taken the problem to read your link. I however form a different opinion. The demand would diminsh because of the world financial difficulties, therefore they have decided to delay $582bn, of construction activity. The affected projects would most likely be the ones that have not got off the ground yet, and are still at the drawing stage. This seems a prudent approach as if all these projects came online in the existing environment then it would lead to a glut in the market. However $500bn of construction activity is still taking place. Now how many countries are seeing that level of activity in the current environment?

I doubt that people would have paid anything or are certainly not the 50% of the costs the projects that are delayed. But if you use that yardstick then all the projects in Pakistan are a fraud as they are always delayed and never delivered on the sceduled time.

(37874)

M. akhtar

Friday, February 6, 2009 12:01 AM PST

Reply:

EME and state life plots current rate

Ad Type

City

Scheme

Phase

Block

Plot

Size

Cur. Rate

Lahore

EME

DHA

108

Kanal

Dear CMY Sahib,

Hopefully you are fine and doing great.

Please give me current rate for EME Plot no 108 Block A Lahore and state life ext. phase 2 block JJ and plot no 688. thanks.
take care
Allah hafiz
M.Akhtar

CMY replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 06:48 PM PST

Dear brother M. Akhtar EME A 108 is worth 68 to 70 lacs due to the boundary factor.

JJ 688 is worth 9 lacs if open file. If its a transfered file than its worth 8.65 lacs.

(37873)

arsu

Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:49 PM PST

Reply:

IMF loan is no solution !

By October 2007, at the end of Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz’s tenure, Pakistan raised back its Foreign Reserves to a handsome $16.4 billion. His exceptional policies kept our trade deficit controlled at $13 billion, exports boomed to $18 billion, revenue generation increased to become $13 billion and attracted foreign investment of $8.4 billion. Illustrating in mathematics for easy understanding, on October 2007, when PM Shaukat Aziz left us:
Exports - $18 billion
Imports - $30.53 billion
Trade deficit - $12.53 billion
Foreign Reserves - $16.4 billion
What is to be seen above is that, Pakistan’s Foreign Reserves $16.4 bn exceeded the trade deficit $12.53 bn by a comfortable $3.87 billion and with an additional foreign investment of $8.4 billion – Pakistan’s currency stayed stable at Rs.61 per dollar. Currency starts to devalue ONLY when the Trade deficit surpasses the Foreign Reserves. This rare phenomenon occurred in present government, which has led to devaluation of the currency by 40%. During 8 months of present government,
Trade deficit - $20.74 billion
Foreign reserves - $8 billion
Meaning reserves fell from $14 billion to $8 billion and the trade deficit increased from $12.53 billion to $20.74 billion. The moment the foreign reserves ($8 bn) fell below the trade deficit ($20.74 bn), the currency starts to devalue. Under Mr. Shaukat Aziz, rupee stayed stable as shown below, till October 2007, because our reserves $16.4 billion EXCEEDED our trade deficit of $12.53 billion.
2001-02:Rs.61
2002-03:Rs.57.7
2003-04:Rs.57.92
2004-05:Rs.59.66
2005-06:Rs.60.16
2006-07:Rs.60.5
2007 (Dec): Rs. 61
To cope up with the economic destability,the easier course adopted again, to beg around the world barefaced or go back to IMF. This latest IMF loan of $7.6 billion, pre-arranged for a period of two years, is merely an economic deception and yet another soothing drug given to us by our government. It will not help boost an economy whose foreign investment is declining, and where the trade deficit exceeds the total foreign reserves.
If Pakistan wishes to remain free from influence of IMF, there is no better option than to assert our economic sovereignty and accumulate Foreign Reserves, from help of over-seas Pakistanis, attract foreign, public & private investment.

Salam replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 02:02 AM PST

Shaukat Aziz was a member of an elite cabinet which performed very well in all spheres not only in finance. e.g.
Internet facility was extended from 40 to 1000 towns over fiber optic.
Media flourished.
Higher and basic education made giant leaps forward.
We steped into space sciences with PakSat. and second sattelite launch was planned in 2009.
Gawadar port and airport developed. Islamabad airport was suppose to complete in 2009.
Ground breaking of many mega buildings was performed i.e.
World trade center Islamabad
Centaurus Islamabad
Grand Hayyat Islamabad
Mubarak center Lahore
Karachi Financial center
IT tower Karachi
Crescent bay Karachi
Karachi port tower
Island project
Pakistan's defence was made strong JF-17, Al-Khalid tank
Pakistan's defence export reached record level of $500 million plus.
private industry and bussiness flourished
Foreign investors flocked to Pakistan.
There was a target to make Pakistan a developed country and we felt it reachable.

Muhaq-qiq replied on Friday, February 6, 2009 02:50 AM PST

AOA to all,
Ayoub khan established the first infrastructure in Pakistan that we still enjoying but he was misadvised by the "darbaries".

Bhutoo brought total change and try to establish again new foundation of infrastructure but he was also traped by his "darbaries".
Zia -ul- Haque was able to secure western borders but knock down by his own "darbaries".
Nawaz & Mohtarma tries to do well but again darbaries!
Musharraf and his team also tried hard to bring Pakistan back to track, but after all again old darbaries played their role.
And now again the same game is on the way.

Solution:
1- Pakistan is a agriculture based land and for some time should not waste energies to travel over the technology based route.
2- Justice syetem must be established/enforced at its best based on pure islamic appications.
3- Government should apply tax on agriculture, derived from islamic conditions.
4- Interst(sood) must be stopped immediately(Allah(SWT) gives assurance in Koran for the betterment)
5- The overseas Pakistanis must be given their rights and should be treated in a very effective manner, waste of their energies is no more affordable for Pakistan.
6- We must establish good relations with our neighbours and must know how to deal with "HIKMA".
7- The reputed assemblies should pass the laws for all the parties in Pakistan to establish a system of "Internal Election".
Jeeway Pakistan Sada Jeeway(Inshallah)-Amin