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Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:08 PM PST 
Investment advice in Bahria Sector E - F

Experts on Bahria Lahore, please guide which blocks of sector E and F are safe for 3-4 years investment. If there are any specific blocks that should be avoided because of LRR or Land issues then please mention them as well.

I am new to bahria so any tips in this regard will be really helpful.

Thanks.

IM786® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:04 PM PST 

Brother try to avoid back side of talha block. Rest of sector F is fine but u need to know which blocks are gully developed (Ghaznavi, tipu). Block under development partially(Extension of sikandar block and above part of alamgir block)
Below part of alamgir, abu bakar and sh. Sadi ballotted but not developed.
aziz bhatti and tariq bin ziyad are belloted. But no map issued and no
location announced.

Noman Ahmed replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:10 PM PST 

Dear IM786

What about Talha development and from where starts back side of Talha.


regards

Haider replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:39 PM PST 

Thanks for response, IM786. So naturally
prices in undeveloped (balloted) blocks are comparatively lower. Like Alamgir, AbuBakar, Sh. Sadi. Similarly Tariq bin zyad and Azi bhatti do not have any map and no one knows about location.

Considering that I have 2-4 years holding time, which of above blocks you think will be best for investment?? What kind of risks / worst scenarios should I expect in case of investment in these blocks.

Please share your views as this is my sole investment and I want to know risks involved before going into it. Thanks a lot.

IM786® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 05:07 PM PST 

@Nadem:i cant tell the exact numbers but as per plan of ring road all the plots under the 100ft road are safe. By under the 100ft road i mean if 100ft is center line then the plots towards facing sector F Or towards NFC2.
@Haider: Brother MR is under great pressure to deliver remaining sector F. And when i say MR it means MR in true sense no any other bahria official. Remaining plots of sector F will be delivered within 1 yr. MR said 6 months but approx 1 yr is enough. Now regarding investing, for 3 yrs holding its a good opportunity bcz bad time has past. Investing depends on ur budget. But aziz bhatti and tariq bin ziyad has more margin to grow but risk is
location unknown. Now i think if u can buy something in alamgir block it will be good return in 2-3 yrs. In alamgir some plots are near 70 and some are near 55+. The difference is plots with 70 has land and bahria is developing it to deliver with 3-4 months. While the plots with price 55+ bahria is in negotiations to buy pockets of land and didnt start the development yet
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Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:59 PM PST 
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Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:37 PM PST 
Continued from post 83132)

Thank you HassanHC, MIT and Hammaid sb for your agreement and kind words.

Darwaish sb, SFGCS sb and Junaid sb
Thank you for your willingness to continue a healthy debate free from emotional biases.

For a commercial hub to thrive there are two basic conditions:

1. Location in the proximity/middle of larger than average residential plots with a posh area feel to it (it used to be 4 kanal in the times of Gulberg and Model Town back in 70/80's and now the definition of larger than average is 2 kanal residential like in Y and Z block of DHA Phase 3). This ingredient gives the commercial location that posh feel which I discussed in my last post 83132 below.

2. Large number of commercial or the "Critical Mass" below which the commercial activity will not be significant enough to be noteworthy (example is Commercial activity in Model town where condition 1 mentioned above is met but the scale of commercial is below a critical mass and hence it halted and remained just a local grocery/meat shop commercial instead of a big commercial hub like Liberty Market or MM Alam Road)

If you look at overall Lahore commercial landscape for high street shopping or posh eatries you will find that all such high street shopping areas or posh eatries are located in areas where gnerally above conditions are met. This primarily includes Liberty and MM Alam Road (a larger number of 4 kanal residential surrounding it and commercial plots (including the residential that have been converted into commercial now) and Y Block.

Ichra, Shalmi and other such commercial hubs are the ones where there is a large amount of commercial plots (hence condition 2 is met) but since condition 1 is not met in these locations it did not develop as a high end commercial hub.

Phase 8 commercial broadway will eventually develop and thrive as it has a volume of commercial above this critical mass but since it is not surrounded by larger than average residential plots it might take a long time for it to be considered as the shopping/hanging out destination. Comparing it with Y Block at this stage is wrong in my opinion as these two are on two very different timelines. And Y Block has the undeniable edge of condition 1 (larger than average posh residential).

In Phase 6E Block and Phase 7 these two conditions are met. So not today, but when this gets populated eventually, these will have their own place in the "places to hang out" and "places to consider for high street shopping" for Lahoris!

Baki WaAllah ul Ilm
:)

User_9325® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:40 PM PST 

wonderful analysis.... thank you so much for sparing time to write in such detail

Haider replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:52 PM PST 

nice analysis

KK® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:03 PM PST 

I beg to disagree with the concept of merely large houses make a commercial area successful...as it is missing some important factors like the timing when these commercial areas were developed and central locations which is applicable to both yblock and liberty both centrally located (huge population around) and have more than one easy access points. If you have all amenities at comfortable distance and approach, new commercial area even around with limited access will not succeed. Also the commercial areas mentioned didnt become success overnight it takes large amount of time even decades to succeed....as natural need of amenities for a large population arised which made businesses there cost effective. Therefore it is directly proportional to population at comfortable distance and easy approach and not to large houses

M Zahid® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:03 PM PST 

Shah g,
Very logical and unbiased analysis.

Shah replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:54 PM PST 

KK Bro you point is right that regardless of any other conditions, commercial cannot thrive without a large area of population around it. Now plz open the map on DHA web site and see the total area of Phase 7. There is enough residential to kick start the motor of commercial activity.

And I don't have a fetish with larger house :) But it is only logical that larger houses generally host higher disposable income families. And higher disposable income is good news for any kind of high end commercial.

A small example: Lightening is a basic neccestiy. A normal person needs a bulb or rather an energy saver to light up his house which he/she shops from the nearest grocery or electrical store for around 100 Rs. People with higher disposable income (and generally residing in larger houses) would tend to meet the same need by buying expensive chandliers or even Philips Hue which cost 50,000 Rs for a single light. I fail to imagine why would someone living in a 5 marla house in a budget society like Rahbar would buy a 50,000 Rs single light for his house. So if a high end brand (in lightening industry) like Philipps or their local dealer needs to setup their shop where do you think they would setup? In DHA Rahbar surrounded by 5 marla and 10 marla houses or Phase 7 Commercial surrounded by 2 Kanal houses? Same is true for all other high end brands. Money attracts money and the resultant process is called high end commercial activity ;)

I rest my case
:)

Kriz® replied on Friday, June 3, 2016 01:24 PM PST 

Dear Shah Sahab,
With due respect, why this Large House Assumption remains invalid for H Block Commercial which is surrounded by significantly larger number of Two Kanal houses in L, M, N and D Block.
Same goes for Q Block Commercial which has significantly higher number of 2 kanal and the immediate neighbouring R Block is completely Two Kanal Block. Both of these commercials have never attained the popularity and fame of Y Block.
I do agree with you partially, when you talk about income and purchasing power, yet i believe there are other factors (mostly random and unpredictable) that could change the game plan entirely. By the way i am like you extremely bullish on Phase 7, particularly on CCA 4 especially after the introduction of new cuttings of 8 marla and 4 marla commercials on main road coming from Burki, therefore take this point as a trigger to stimulate healthy debate and awareness.
Regards

Shah replied on Friday, June 3, 2016 04:39 PM PST 

Dear Kriz
The whole point is that larger house community eventually develops into a more posh locality. 2 Kanal surrounded by H Block commercial have mostly been sub-divided into smaller 1 kanal plots.

Y and Z have the largest number of these "posh"houses that make the whole community an expensive and posh locality. Hence the Y Block commercial
prices.

Q and K Block commercial is otherwise below that "critical mass" to kick start the high end commercial activity. And like I mentioned in my earlier posts, its two man factors to make a commercial successful: 1. Large number of commercial to achieve a "critical mass" 2. Large number of above average residential plots surrounding it

Thanx
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Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:26 PM PST 
DHA Plot 340 ( series ) Phase 9

Assalam O Alaikum Brothers ,

My son embraced Shahadat in 2003 in Siachin . Recently last year we got another plot in DHA Prism . Plot is near Golf course in 340 series number .

We dont have any hurry . Should we sell or wait . A dealer from pindi did contact us with 115 lakh offer and transfer time was one month . Please tell should we sell or wait .

Thankyou

Guest replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:31 PM PST 

MASHALLAH .if you don't need money then keep it price going up.

Khurram11® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:41 PM PST 

Walaikum Salam.

You haven't mentioned the block of your plot. If this plot is in C Block, then don't sell as it is at an ideal
location near Golf Course and main road. If it is in D block, then sell it if you're getting a price of 115 lacs.

Ashfaq® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:46 PM PST 

Walaikum Salam. May Allaah the Almighty bless your son best place in Jannat ul Firdouse (aameen). I believe you must hold this plot for at least 3 more years to get around Rs 2.25 crores (Insha Allaah).

Mrs Baig replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:06 PM PST 

It is in C Block facing 150 ft road as per map

Khurram11® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:22 PM PST 

Nice, as I said it's an ideal
location and has a lot of potential to increase further.

Ashfaq® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:30 PM PST 

Dealer offered you at least Rs 20 laces less. Anyways, as advised by brothers, please hold this plot. Allaah Kareem

NAhmad® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 06:35 PM PST 

If it is in C block and in 340 series. than current market value of your plot is 140 lac. Dealer who called you want to make big profit from your plot. So please avoid such dealer

Surfer replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 09:17 PM PST 

Mrs Baig Mothers like you are yet to be saluted too. Whose Has Sons like yours. May ALLAH gives good place in Jannah to your Son Ameen.
Mrs Baig its my humble request to my sister to hold this plot for atleast 3 years if you are not in need for Money.
And after 3 years if you need money sell it on Cash other wise make a house on it. Never ever had baiyana deal of one month for this plot with anyone.
You Got a creme of Prism.
Plz remember me in your prayers.

Ali cheema replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 09:27 PM PST 

Assslam o Alikum,
Please keep holding this plot as in 3 years you will pay just 3 lac development charges , where as the profit will be more than 80 lac In shaa Allah so your plot is worth holding c sector is one of the best sector of ph 9
May Allah aceept the shadat of our dear bro,and give you dabar Ameen

Muhammad Ahmed replied on Friday, June 3, 2016 02:24 AM PST 

Mrs Baig. We are proud of your son and our protector. Allah un kee shahadat qabool farmaye.

Plz hold this plot for 3 years at least and you will get 2,3 crors after 3 years.
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(74003)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:35 PM PST 
Prism J Block

Dear All any body explain to me that what is the meaning of upper cutting or Lower cutting of Prism J Block. And what is benefit or loss for the plots holder.
Thanks in Advance
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(74002)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:10 PM PST 
In need of advise

Ad Type
City
Scheme
Phase
Block
Size
Cur. Rate
Lahore
Khayaban e Ameen
1
E
5 M
AOA. Can someone kindly advise me.
1. I have a 5 Marla house in Khayaban-e-Ameen Phase 1,is it better to sell the house at this time and buy a plot in DHA Ph 7/8/9? Or shall I wait for the ring road construction for the prices to mature a bit more?
2. I have a 10 Marla house in Defence Raya Phase 2, its been vacant since bought because of no kitchen and cabinets in the house, the selling price of 1 K appreciated more as compared to 10 M, Do you think it will appreciate more in future? Where shall I get the kitchen construction done as I am residing abroad and don't know much about it?
3. I am interested in buying commercial plot in any DHA Phase where the prices are still not high.

Any advise would be highly appreciated. Thanks

kam replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:52 PM PST 

U can engage a party to fix all kitchen and cabnits,and also u can rent out this house.

Dr.Maha replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:54 PM PST 

Thankyou @kam, different people quoted me different
prices and I have no clue about the material as well so kind of confused... are there reasonable shops where they have fixed price?

kam replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 04:27 PM PST 

Lot of
prices difference with respect to material and design, u can check with SMC kitchen, show room in fortress market. all sample fixed there. but prices little higher.

kam replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 04:30 PM PST 

or i know one person he fixed few kitchens in 10 marla raya houses, if u interested i will ask him to send picture design and price. u can compare. this will help you to take decision

Dr.Maha replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 06:39 PM PST 

Ya please that would be very kind of you.
Kindly ask him to email me at

kam replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 08:29 PM PST 

ok i will try
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Thursday, June 2, 2016 09:41 AM PST 
Commerical price

DEAR LRE

What is the current value of Oval Complex 4 Marla Plot 45 .

thanks a lot

LRE® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:11 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Oval Complex 4 marla near 45 can be sold around 375 lacs



SALMAN MAQSOOD
+923224009967
LAHORE REAL ESTATE
EMAIL:INFO@LREPK.COM
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(73999)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 07:29 AM PST 
File or Plot

i want to invest 3.5 in only that society where developer already has purchased land. please suggest schemes with good return potential. Appreciate.
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(73998)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 06:32 AM PST 
DHA Multan

Ad Type
City
For Sale
Multan
Development (boundary wall & boulevard) in progress at DHA Multan. File will kick off another journey to touch 50lacs before Eid :cl :cl

Ali replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 07:45 AM PST 

In your dreams...

Ejaz_EJ® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:09 PM PST 

I think, Ali you are still in Dream actually, it will definitely touch 50 in Mid July, just listen today's audio message as well by CMY, it is a temporarily dip, it will rise again.

Thanks

Ali replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:52 PM PST 

in your dreams please check today's price for your kind information

Free_Man replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:19 PM PST 

Ejaz has tendency to make personal attacks and also very sensitive to Multan.
Real estate is different than stocks; short term up and down make any difference but long term Multan is bound to go up. No one has doubt in it.

Vaiz® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:49 PM PST 

@ALI crying baby!!!!!!! Please someone can donate Ali
DHA Multan file at 32. so at least he can stop crying and DHA Multan can stop haunting him in his dreams.
Cheers.

Dubai replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:57 PM PST 

i would like to add that anything you take for long term bound to increase no need to worry at all even if its jungle.

People took acres land 10 years back near by pass chowk wapda town
in Millions now that is of crores even that is not under some big names like DHA and so.

We took one plot in open land of 13 lakhs 10M now its 70 after 7 years.

So definitely these bigs names bound to rise meanwhile giving benefits to short term investors but for that u have to be very vigilant and sharp enough to invest timely.

For long term it doesnt matter coz it has to rise within 3 to 4 years even it dip in netween like in DHA ups and down but ultimately it will reach to crore as well one day

Ali replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 04:33 PM PST 

dil ko tassli deny k leye ansan koye na koye logic nikal he leta hai @ Vaiz...yarr aisa na behave karo jaise
DHA Multan se apny shadi kar le hai
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(73997)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 05:21 AM PST 

Hello all,
Hope you are fine. I recently bought a m7c old close file on 75 thousand onn on advise of friends on this page. Alhamdulilah its going well, please advise if I should buy new booking too with 5 lacs booking or not. Is it advisable to invest or should I stay away as its 5 lacs expensive than previous booking.

Regards

Nabeel replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 08:07 PM PST 

What is the difference between open and closed file?

Qasim replied on Friday, June 3, 2016 09:54 AM PST 

@Ahmed, can you please tell me from where you bought M7C closed file, I am interested in buying one! What is current own on these
files and how easy is it to buy?
Thank you!
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(73995)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 04:07 AM PST 
DHA MULTAN price in near future

I havd heard that in 100s or 1000s Dha multan files are being released in near future . Direct effect will be on files that may again come to 36 lakh.
Any expert opinion on this possibility?
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(73994)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 04:02 AM PST 
Plot evaluation

Dear LRE team
Kindly evaluate 1 kanal plot in phase 7 near T 1319 facing park. Thank you

LRE® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:14 PM PST 

Dear Sir,

Phase 7 near T 1319 is around 120 to 125 lacs


HASSAN RAZA
+923028449766
LAHORE REAL ESTATE
EMAIL:INFO@LREPK.COM
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(73993)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 03:37 AM PST 
Low Cost Housing Society

Ad Type
City
Scheme
For Sale
Lahore
Low Cost Housing
Dear Forum Members,

Please help me to found a housing society in low budget with installments for myself because I am a salary person in a private institution.

I am worried due to high prices of property in Lahore. I want to built a home for my poor family after my retirement in 2021.

I know well that you are mostly rich persons on the forum but I hope I shall get good guideline from you INSHALLAH. JazakAllah.

PAK replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:11 AM PST 

Dear Nadeem
This forum is not for you, pay tax and see the house in dreams.
Please say " aik wary phair........shair " also look towards the over cease they had big investment in Pakistani property but they are and will live out off country. If you not agree with me please please forgive me.

Haider replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:12 PM PST 

Property
prices are comparatively lower On Ravi river side or Mughalpura to border side. How much installment can you pay per month ?

Kamal Baig® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:20 PM PST 

Nadeem Sb
how much you can pay down payment and how much you can pay monthly installment ?

Lrr replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 04:33 PM PST 

Lrr

Usmani replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 05:35 PM PST 

Al Jalil and safari garden .
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(73992)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:59 AM PST 
Park view villas multan road

Dear LRE team please advise what are the prospects of commercial in park view villas multan road lahore. Thanks for your help
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(73991)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:43 AM PST 
Advise needed from Habib Sb of Surfer Bahi

AOA
I am a govt official with limited or no budget to invest...I ve been saving my hard earned money in shape of GP Fund..now after reading Quran with translation I ve come to know about the strict prohibition of interest...I ve therefore decided to take out my GP Fund and invest in real estate ...I ve about 4 Millions in total....I ve been reading this page since long and really appreciate the experience and sincere advises of you people ....I therefore request to suggest me to invest my above mentioned hard earned money where I can invest for 5 years so that I ve enough money for home or business after my retirement...
Thanks in advance and Jazak Allah

K Siddique replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:45 AM PST 

Habib Sb or Surfer bahi
not OF

Salamat replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 04:39 AM PST 

Invest in DHA, safest of them all and good investment too.

Jameel Mughal® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 05:45 AM PST 

Phase 9 J Block upper cutting is best choice but aim should be hold about 5,6 years, Inshallh will gain to min 80 to 90 Lac in 6 years [including development charges] more than double of today price. More than NSS.

abc replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 07:16 AM PST 

@jameel Mughal what do you say about middle and lower cutting if one cant afford upper cutting.will they hai within time

asifm9 replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:57 AM PST 

Dear Khalid Siddique,

I would suggest you to invest only in on-ground and ready to construct plots. It is not advisable to purchase some papers along with dreams with millions of hard earned money. I would suggest you to buy some on-ground ready to construct plot in IEP, Central park, UET town or Bahria. May God bless you for saving yourselves from interest

Kamal Baig® replied on Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:26 PM PST 

on ground plots are best option

K siddique replied on Friday, June 3, 2016 12:46 AM PST 

Really very grateful for sincer advices of all of you...May Allah keep you healthy and happy
In sha Allah I will research on abovementioned recommendations and make decision with Neeat to shift my savings to Rizk e Hilal regardless of profit or loss...
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(73990)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 02:40 AM PST 
Advise needed from Habib Sb of Surfer Bahi

AOA
I am a govt official with limited or no budget to invest...I ve been saving my hard earned money in shape of GP Fund..now after reading Quran with translation I ve come to know about the strict prohibition of interest...I ve therefore decided to take out my GP Fund and invest in real estate ...I ve about 4 Millions in total....I ve been reading this page since long and really appreciate the experience and sincere advises of you people ....I therefore request to suggest me to invest my above mentioned hard earned money where I can invest for 5 years so that I ve enough money for home or business after my retirement...
Thanks in advance and Jazak Allah
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(73989)
Thursday, June 2, 2016 01:54 AM PST 
Great opportunity to buy DHA Multan under 40 3 years

Dha Multan allocation available at 39 Lacs. With transfer cost your net cost will be 40.40 lacs. Affidavit artificially kept high at 42 lacs due to land owners/land investors manipulation. Affidavit net cost after transfer is 42.56 lacs. Buy DHA Multan allocation from Mian Fawad +923024489001 before rate gap opertunity is gone.
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