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Tuesday, October 13, 2015 01:39 PM PST 
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Tuesday, October 13, 2015 01:25 PM PST 

What's the update of DHA Multan project
M aware that no mapping done till now but whether DHA have
Land for the project acquired or still in process.
If not yet any physical land in hand what is the proposed time

Umer replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 03:29 PM PST 

I think there are no official updates from DHA regarding this project.

The
prices used to be quite higher as compared with the 28.5 for 1kanal files in the market currently.

Also no official news regarding the land already acquired by DHA.
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(68389)
Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:03 PM PST 

(Kindly dont delete my story as it may help readers)

It appears that we Pakistanis live in our homeland with just one aim of undergoing one agony after another meted out to us by our corrupt government and coercive system. I have been filer of income tax return for many years. However, my name comes in and goes out of the active tax payers list every now and then with no reason intimated to me. Initially my name went out of active tax payers list in March 2015 resulting in imposition of non-filer rates on me by my banks. As I ran from nook to corner, I came to know that I had filed my tax ‘physically’ and since it was required to be filed ‘electronically’, my name had been omitted from the active tax payers list. The needful was done and my name finally reappeared in the list.

As I was finalizing the deal of a plot sale in August, 2015, a crude shock came my way that my name was not there in the tax filers list again resulting in incidence of extra income tax on sale proceeds. This time, after running from pillar to post, I came to know that I had attached bank tax deduction certificate which had to be sent ‘electronically’ in order to enable my name to appear in the tax payers list. Finally, it was done and the FBR took many weeks to update my name into its list.

My income tax return for 2015 was filed on 1st October, 2015. As I went to get a new car booked on 9th October, I was again informed that my name was not there in the tax payers list and I was required to pay extra tax for being ‘non-filer’.
Incidentally, FBR never bothered to phone or email me on any of the above instances while removing my name from active tax payers list. I sent many emails to FBR official address, Ishaq Dar’s senate address for redressing my grievances but everything fell on deaf ears.

In view of the foregoing, I feel there is no need for filing any tax returns. I also advise expatriate Pakistanis to stay away from investing in a country in which the government is also snatching extortion money on all the transactions.

Adnan replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 02:25 PM PST 

Dear Aseem, I am not surprised to see what you are going through, however, we must also realize that this online tax filing system is a new thing for us and for the departments, yes I agree that this has been a bit of a problem for you but based on your experience, wouldn't it be prudent if you checked your tax status online every now and then specially before transacting large amounts of money just to make sure there are no discrepancies.

On the suggestion that you have given in the end of your complaint, I am an expatriate for many years and cannot wait to come back home. For my fellow brothers and sisters living in the homeland, I can confirm that for all the money that people like me earn to keep in banks, I will never be able to replace what I have already missed out on for staying away from my loved ones for so many years.

I am and will continue to invest in the homeland because I will come back home one day. For all the good systems and what not, these foreign countries can never be our home, and despite all the ills and misgivings of our society, Pakistan will still be our home.

So, please do not dispel the whole country for some tax frustrations, I am sure with time you would learn to adapt and the system will mature enough to correct for itself.

Baba G replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 05:28 PM PST 

Great words from Adnan. A reality check.

MS replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 07:35 PM PST 

@Adnan

Well said Mr. Adnan
100% agreed with you " InShaaaAllah" Long live Pakistan.

Regards
From
Abu Dhabi.

Tanweer replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:34 PM PST 

Dear Aseem,

Income Tax returns are to be filed on-line. This practice has been in place for several years. My understanding is that the FBR web-site updates its data every month. So please do keep in mind that we keep a gap of atleast 20-30 days before making any transaction. Also, as suggested by Adnan, it is wiser to check from FBR's web-site before making a transaction. Cheers.

Ahmet replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:37 PM PST 

@ Adnan,

He is identifying flaws in the system which is very important to ensure such nuisances are fixed. It is extremely frustrating for an honest and rule-abiding citizen to do business in Pakistan. Please label us dispel-er just because we are identifying some sad facts about the country.

Dr. Khan replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:40 PM PST 

Well, let me add similar experience. In July, I visited FBR myself and requested to
update my records as non-resident Pakistani. They asked for several documents which I provided but nothing happened. In September, I personally visited FBR again with all documents once again just to update the records, however, they said that the system is not allowing and I should come again. I told them that it was my second visit from abroad, but that too in vain. I have given up and stopped from further purchase transactions.

Expat Observer replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:04 PM PST 

During my recent visit to Pakistan, which ended last week, I found some interesting facts:

- I tried to open bank account and was advised by Bank Manager NOT to open account here in Rs currency. He told me being expat, you are exempted from tax return filing but I will deduct 0.6% tax on your each transaction being non-filer. WTH? He suggested me either to have account in overseas or if I want, open FC account. BTW, he is my friend also.

- Went to file my return in Lhr FBR office. From one office to other, one floor to other floor and NO ONE in office willing to accept my return coz I'm expat and they dont have any idea where expats will submit.

- FBR is heavily mis-managed institute. Work style of ppl there looks to create trouble rather than facilitation. Dont know why?

- When tried to find something online, found that LHR region FBR office expenses are more than what tax money they have collected last year. Interesting - Isn't it?

WHAT IMPRESSION I Got - FBR (Govt) trying to get money with every possible mean from general public, push them away from windows where ppl can get benefit, make procedure complicated so ppl can't understand them, make process hectic so ppl avoid it and bow down to powerful elite so they can share the tax-evasion money.

Ahmer replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:11 PM PST 

Sorry Aseem that you are suffering.
But bravo Adnan, you have put our thoughts in black and white.
Much respect.

Ahmad replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:13 PM PST 

I am trying to register my wife in fbr for return and i am supposed to get some code via email and sms but everytime i try i receive it after 2-3 hours and by that time it is expired.....seems like fbr themselves dont want people to get registered

MUZZAMIL replied on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:05 PM PST 

i entered my tax returns Electronically in August but still havent been added to ATL , can any1 tell me what to do now?

dont have time to visit RTO and if visiting RTO is a Must , whats the purpose of online Filing?
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Tuesday, October 13, 2015 06:25 AM PST 
DHA PentaSquare Apartments Booking Prices

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(68385)
Tuesday, October 13, 2015 03:22 AM PST 

Jameelmughal and other experts, pl advise. As regards the earlier discussion about having home near a malla, I want to ask about my plot. I have a ten marla plot on 14th avenue DHA phase 7. This is located approx. one KM inside, towards 12th avenue [near plot 2103). I am planning to start construction of my house soon as I already got the possession. Jameel sb can u pl advise me that there would be no issue of nalla smell etc. pl reply in detail

jameelmughal replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 04:01 AM PST 

This Is Not a Nallah No issues, Only Hadiara Drain is Nallh which is far away from You. Storm drain in Not a nallah and remain dry all the year, and small sewage lines are connected to all houses.

usman uk replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 06:13 AM PST 

Jameel sahib. I have a plot in Z block, DHA phase 7. Plot # 1146. It is corner one. Can you please evaluate its price and what are its prospects? Should I sell it or keep it? thanks

LRE replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 02:24 PM PST 

Asslam O Alaikum

Dear Sir,

Plot # Z-1146 Dha Phase-7 Is Valued Around 77 To 78 Lacs



Hassan Raza
Lahore Real Estae
+923028449766
Email:INFO@LREPK.Com

Mqueen replied on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 01:05 AM PST 

Dear jameel Sb,

My plot is in Ph 7 y block near 2322. Please evaluate its price and status.

Thanks & regards

Hassan C replied on Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:10 PM PST 

@jameelmughal Sahab I have a plot 8 streets away from drain
DHA Rahbar phase 2 H block. It is 5 marla is it GOOD BAD or OK
location plot.
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Tuesday, October 13, 2015 02:02 AM PST 

Dear Experts,

Can you please advise which commercial to buy 4 Marla Ivy Green or Park view. I am confused. And is it good to buy now or wait for Muharram to start.
Need your opinion please

Visitor replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 02:23 PM PST 

Parkview is not moving but IVY green got good gain in recent month.
In my point of view Parkview
location is much more better than IVY green, plus, Parkview is already surrounded by fully developed area.
But somehow Parkview commercial files are not appreciated, I cdunt understand the reason for it.
I remember 2 years ago , I had Ivy Green /Z block file and everyone was not appreciating Z block and advised that it will be isolated block and bla bla... I sold the plot and somehow regretted now.

My suggestion is Parkview is better, may be not for short terms but for long terms and until DHA 8 gets possession..
But IVY green is appreciated and might get more gain in short term.
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Monday, October 12, 2015 06:34 PM PST 
Phase 9/ Development Charges

Dear Salman /LRE Team
Please kindly advice, when the first instalment is due for development charges in Phase 9.

Thanks
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Monday, October 12, 2015 05:14 PM PST 

Dear LRE,

Kindly update the price of Phase 6, E-Block Commercial.

Thanks
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Monday, October 12, 2015 04:23 PM PST 
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Monday, October 12, 2015 04:13 PM PST 

I have possession 5 marla plot in D block of DHA town. I want to start construction. Can someone inform me what is the current situation in this area. Is it liveable? Are shops and other facilities available?

Faisal replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 07:54 PM PST 

you want to start constructing your house, why not you spare half an hour and visit the place yourself?

Mustafa replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 07:56 PM PST 

The first house is under-construction in D block, while a few are scheduled to start in C block. You can't expect shopping areas to be constructed before ample houses are ready and ample houses cannot be ready as this area just got possession a few months ago. I would expect a 100 houses to start construction by the next 6 months. The area is habitable but in the end it depends on your preferences. In any case Askari 11-B and DHA Town Apartments border Block C, which is right next to Block D and the hosues are mostly occupied. A mosque, army school and shops are accessible directly from Askari so I would personally not mind constructing my house there at this time if I needed one. By constructing a house now you can enjoy living there and seeing a lot of houses over the next year or two, while the price of your plot increases from 55 to 75 lacs at the same time. The sooner people built more houses in the area, the sooner
prices increase based on fundamentals.

E.A replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:00 PM PST 

Dear Mustafa
Thanks for your detailed reply....i heard the same from Lahore markeet that cinstruction of few hundred houses will start soon and by then price of an average plot will be 75...this will happen with 6-8 months...
Thanks

Mian replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:06 PM PST 

100 % agreed Mustafa. the best and the bestest ever 5 marla community in DHA is 9 Town, sooner as soon as construction started the
prices will jump to height. i think the time bar may be 6 Months.Best time to buy or invest in 9 town is now. Most of the people dont know that it is a GATE AWAY TO PHASE 9 PROPER.

MIT replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 02:03 PM PST 

Mustafa has given a very realistic advice.
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Monday, October 12, 2015 02:42 PM PST 

Aoa,

I m buying a house which has an open drain at the back. There is a plot a road and than a nursery between that house and drain. What do u suggest should i buy it? The smell occurs some times not always. How far a house is considered safe and anybody living near such environment are any health hazards?

Thanks

Qasim replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 02:51 PM PST 

Dear Rashid
Which area are you referring to Wapda town? or DHA?

Thank you,

Jameel Mughal® replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 03:40 PM PST 

It depends How big is that Drain, If it is Big then it will Bother You.
Otherwise If you intend to Live there and Have No Plans of selling in Short term then it is Ok, For selling/ investment it is not good.

Rashid Khan replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 07:34 PM PST 

Its Sattu Katla drain behind Wapda town near Life Care Hospital.

jameelmughal replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 07:48 PM PST 

It is Not good decision unless you are getting it at substantial discount, I recall A Kanal plot was offered to me in H block Facing Nallah in 2009 in 34 Lac{ Of Course Road Nursery and green belt of Nallah about 150 feet was in between] when a 10 merla plot in J2 nd K2 was 35,36 Lac

majid replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 07:57 PM PST 

this drain is very big drain nd much smelly in winter . also the satto katla people r crminals

Lines replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 08:34 PM PST 

How many lines away is considered normal
Lines or rows of houses.

kamran replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 01:50 AM PST 

Dont buy, My cuz house in wapda town 2 street away from Drain, but still feel smell and every year jewelary, fridge, steel things rusted so quickly due to acidic air, also health hazards

Ahsan Khan replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:58 AM PST 

As per international standards, 300m distance is considered safe even for a bore hole for water.

Ahmad replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:09 PM PST 

Adjacent to drains are worst plots. You will realise that when you will ever try to sell it

Shehbaz Bajwa replied on Tuesday, October 13, 2015 02:36 PM PST 

I have experience at F1 wapda town and trust me, in rain or windy season you cannot stand outside. One other major factor is your all electronics specially AC outlets facing drain side will get their pipes damaged (worse then ZANG) due to chemicals arising from Nallah. When you will try to sell, you will only get price of land or few extra bucks.
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Monday, October 12, 2015 01:32 PM PST 

Dear LRE,
Please evaluate market value for following:

DHA prism near B-86 1 Kanal
DHA Prism near L-433 1 Kanal

Thanks

LRE replied on Monday, October 12, 2015 02:03 PM PST 

DHA prism near B-86 Market Value is around 70 Lac
DHA Prism near L-433 Market Value is around 60 Lac



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